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πŸ”΄LIVE – MLB Winter Meetings: Romano To Phillies, Soto Pivots: Bregman & Fried, Dodgers & Teoscar Gap

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and we’re live welcome in everybody I apologize for the delay really squeezing a lot in shoehorning a lot into the evening and because of it it cost me a few minutes here so I apologize for the delay those of you that have been waiting patiently here um thank you I appreciate it uh bedtime ran a little over tonight we had basketball practice it was it was a longer night than I thought I thought we could hit 9:30 um but we’ll have to adjust that we’ll have to adjust that moving forward welcome in interesting day today we had all of the WAN sto sort of Fallout on on on social media fan bases getting at it with each other aggravated frustrated the Yankees and the Blue Jays and uh and Red Sox fans just seem kind of bummed out but it is a the day after Wan stto and the sweep Stakes come to a close we have some uh some items to pull up and talk about regarding a new Philadelphia Phillies closer will he be the closer we’ll find out time will tell but the Philadelphia Phillies go out and grab Jordan romano and I have some thoughts on that my several of my blue jays fans Brethren uh we disagree I’m going to try to I’ll I’ll do this I will explain why this is just another example another frustration point for me as a blue jay fan and why I think other blue jay fans that are drinking the Kool-Aid should give it some more thought so we’ll talk about Jordan Romano the WAN stto pivot moves are already being talked about Alex bregman Max freed two of the most notable uh pivot players are sort of out there today tasar Hernandez I guess there’s a gap there’s a gap between what teoscar wants and what the Dodgers are willing to pay him I thought thought wanted to be back I thought the Dodgers wanted him back how are we hung up over what I’m certain is just a couple million bucks now maybe it’s a year thing and then that would be more than just a couple million bucks that would be a significant portion but if we’re like if we’re on if if they’re lined up with the years and this is boiling down to a matter of just a few million bucks a year someone’s got to give if both sides want a reunion to happen let’s see it let’s see you do it um so we got Romano the Phillies we got bregman we got freed we got Dodgers and T Oscar we got talk about a Nolan ronado trade it it sounds like the Cardinals are determined to move Nolan ronado and we got a little bit of a timing a potential timing at least for a Nolan arado trade it it seems like it could be within the next couple of weeks not days so that is that’s interesting we also had Mark fand was on MLB Network and look Max freed sort has sort of shot to the top of the wish list for teams like the Blue Jays and the Red Sox and the Yankees again the pivot teams from Juan stto and there’s rumors again people taking one word and adding more importance to the statement by changing the word there’s rumors out there that from Mark fand the Yankees will sign Max freed we have to clear that up as well because that is not what Mark feinsand said Mark feinsand used words like could and might did not use the word will did not use the word will once could and might turned into will and that is all you need so we’re going to dig into a lot that’s going on what are you hearing about the Rangers heard they were in on AJ Minter but nothing else the Rangers are to me they’re going to be an enigma this uh well should they should I call them that an enigma I don’t know I I think that we’ll hear more from the Rangers I think they’re going to be in on the I think they’re going to be in on the pitching Market but um yeah there’s the mentor thing outside of that I know it’s not you’re you’re not hearing a lot you’re not hearing a lot you’re not hearing a lot that that’s exciting and I think probably the reason is that the Rangers are not in apparently Uncle Steve is going to unleash the kraken according to pan still 100 million less payroll than last year Pete Burns and smls I know um it’s it it there’s a lot more coming it’s Cola thank you for the donation big business thank you for the donation the the Rangers are not going to be in on Max freed Corbin Burns Alex bregman so a lot of the talking points going to be hit the like button flexed bicep burrito hanona Fooda cards Moon viewing ceremony semi-trailer truck semi-trailer truck semi-trailer truck burrito Flex bicep yes thank you Craig for the donation and all of the Emojis as always I appreciate you man thank you for the donation William with the 32 months how many teams have no TV contract it’s just a couple right and MLB has stepped in for those teams uh many of them ha have worked things out I’d have to go look that up I’d have I’d have to pick that back up and and do a and sort of update myself because a lot has changed since I last really dove into that topic a couple of weeks ago back when they were having their hearing and everything um so I I don’t have the exact number on that at the moment so uh big is the Rangers will do Jose the Braves are going to have the Braves are going to I feel like I feel like the trade market is where we will see the Braves if they if they make any big time splash I feel like it will be in the trade market I don’t know how big a move for for for the free agent Market maybe I could see them bringing Charlie Morton back signing Nathan avaldi with that be a splash I could see them going after some pitching uh there was a rumor about trading Azie albz can’t how what no that can’t happen so uh we will again work into and I will answer your super chats and acknowledge the super chats as they come in and we’ll talk about it I’ve got some stuff I want to pull up we’ll be watching what’s happening around the winter meetings if anything starts to pick up and heat up like it did last night with Juan stto we will be here to react to it live and in the moment um I am interested to see what happens maybe can can we get a teoscar can we get movement there will the Michael conforto deal actually fir the incident in April with Soto family and Chef Heyman confirmed the crazy story today nuts macron backmon it’s no longer just reading the Emojis it’s also reading the uh the the the why is my why is the word blanking on me here the the the images it’s interesting haven’t heard that before JD St thank you for that um I believe the Mets have a lot to do it’s Cola and I think they will do it and and JD’s third I wouldn’t be surprised if if that truly feels like the reason why it’s a fire it is a fireable offense or maybe the Yankees change how they handle some things I I don’t want the man to be fired because he was doing his job and he was probably doing what he was told to do but I also would not be surprised if it happens I don’t want it to happen I don’t think it’ll happen but if it does I won’t be surprised what’s going on John could it be Pete back to the Mets Goomba potentially let’s fire up some talking points here again keep the super chats coming in when you throw a Super Chat out there it grabs the attention it grabs the conversation uh so we will see and that that was crazy the whole uh I guess there was F the family there was I guess there were two is was it did I read it right there were two incidents there was one with the family and then another other one with the chef thing yeah I mean is that going to be the reason why you don’t resign if it was the reason holy yeah all right let’s talk about give me a minute because I feel like that that that the world has gone crazy for a moment here and the world as far as revolves around the Toronto Blue Jays because today the Philadelphia Phillies I’m going to get on my soap box for a minute the Philadelphia Phillies a team that I think we are all for the most part in agreement there will be some Philadelphia Phillies haters that I cannot bring across the line for this but this is a Philadelphia Phillies team that makes good moves Personnel decisions are top Notch they don’t screw things up you need an extension done they do it you need to go get something in the off season they go get it you need somebody back they bring them back the Philadelphia Phillies are excellent at Talent acquisition keeping Talent all of that fantastic right if there was a a baseball Savant metrics and we were looking at their metrics page when it comes to Talent evaluation and talent acquisition they would be in the 95th percentile okay that team decided that Jordan Romano is a good piece for their team and oh also by the way ofp for Mets they’re going to pay Jordan Romano more than likely the Toronto Blue Jays if they had not agreed on an arbitration figure if they had had to go to a third party they are Philadelphia paying Jordan radoo more than he likely would have been making in Toronto for a guy that the Toronto Blue Jays decided a couple of weeks ago the best course of action was to just not give this man a contract for $6 million nah we don’t want him on the team he can go away maybe we’ll try to bring him back if he’s lucky we’ll try to bring him back Jordan Romano is now going to the Philadelphia Phillies Jeff passon refers to him as closer Jordan romano and the Phillies have an agreement will he close we’ll see I still think it would be great for the Phillies to bring Jeff Hoffman back I think Carlos esz is gone Hoffman coming back would be a great move but the Philadelphia Phillies again the bullseye on the dart board this off season is Bullpen and they’re jumping out early making a move for Jordan romano and at the 7 million and change it’s a bargain and the tonal Blue Jay said no not if the Red Sox overreact and overpay who will they overpay for one fa and one trade turkey burrito what’s the other Emoji it didn’t play it that looks like a lizard um Mets fan number of bats a number of starting pitchers for Mets give me one bat give me one starting pitcher big splashes big flashes too and I am versatily thank you for the donation if the Red Sox overreact and overpay who will they overpay for tcar will they give teoscar the money that the Dodgers want will they give him a year that the Dodgers don’t want to give them could it be Tay Oscar potentially uh Max freed maybe overpay for Max freed I I can see it happening I can see it happening the Dodgers anybody that that’s been keeping track of all my Max freed comments word is that the Dodgers were nervous about Max freed and the injuries that’s why it was Blake Snell and not Max freed now there’s a lot of people that have heard me talk about Max freed over the last couple of weeks and month or so and you’re going to have to you have to tell them that when you when when he doesn’t go to the Dodgers and you’re and you’re thinking oh Jim What happened to the Dodgers guys help me out when you see that stuff those of you that are in here when you see it in the comments help me out if I’m not there to respond to it that’s what’s happening so the Toronto Blue Jays decided that no Jord Romano is not something that not something we want and I’m catching some heat from Blue Jays fans who think that it was a good thing still even after today a good thing that the Blue Jays let Jordan Romano go that Jordan Romano’s are must be cooked they must know something that nobody else knows uh that that that that it it wasn’t worth the risk and it was the right thing to do what about anything that Toronto bluejs have done over the last two years lets you believe and maybe even we can go beyond that but I do like the Osman deal the Basset deal was pretty good but over the last two years last offseason so far this offseason what about the decision-making processes by this front office leads you to believe that that anything they do is going to be the right decision at this point they entered into a mode they they they transitioned out of that building up mode and they entered into okay now we’re supposed to win mode and that transition has gone horribly horribly and we we’re at a point now where the decision- making is just flawed and wrong Jordan Romano should be a part of this club and to let him go in the fashion that they did non tendering him a contract now he goes to the Philadelphia Phillies is just further evidence that the front office is making poor decisions guys it was an impin M now you’re going to say well Kirby Yates had an impingement Kirby Yates was out for a year everybody’s different my impingement is different from your impingement from his impingement it wasn’t Tommy John’s surgery that he needed it was not structural damage and I’m going to guess that the Philadelphia Phillies feel pretty good now there has to be a physical that is pass and God damn when that physical gets passed there will be no argument from any Blue Jays fan that it was the right thing to do blue jays fans don’t be a shill for this front office and think everything’s okay and the decisions that they are making are the right decisions because the decisions that they are making H are are setting this team backwards I’m worried this team is headed for a very dark period Vladimir Guerrero Jr will not sign an extension if he does I I will be shocked Vladimir Guerrero J because the Toronto Blue Jays are not going to offer him a $500 million extension and even if they do it kind of makes sense for him to still not sign it because if the blue jay set the bar at 500 right now it’s higher than that next off season so they missed on an opportunity to extend Vladimir Guerrero Jr which means he’s going to most likely be gone and this can squarely be put on the shoulders of the front office because an extension should have been the top priority last year or the year after last after 2022 or after 2023 now it’s too late that’s all I’ll say about this I am it it’s more confirmation that the front office is just unable to operate in the manner that you need them to when you’re in a mode where you’re supposed to be winning they were great when they were in that mode where you’re not ready yet we’re not ready yet they were great during that phase but now that it’s supposed to be go time not so good they’re focusing on the wrong free agents Otani was never a a real a real shot you were used as leverage Juan stto was never a real shot you were used as leverage you never had a chance you could have given him a billion dollars I don’t think it would have mattered because Steve Cohen would have gone 50 million higher and even at the end of the day what have you shown Juan soda what have you actually shown with shown him with your actions before you got into this courting phase what did you show him that would lead him to believe that this is the best situation for him that you’re going to be able to reload after you sign me I know you we’re good you’re going to get vlat extended they didn’t they didn’t deploy Vladimir Guerrero Jr as an ambassador during the process Hazel May where is it from Hazel May do do we still have this hold on a minute they probably didn’t deploy vlat because they knew it would backfire Ross Atkins on whether Vladimir Guerrero Jr was asked to help recruit wotto the answer should have been yes we did now look listen you can literally ask Ross Atkins anything and you will not get you will not I don’t think you’ll ever get a real answer we actually didn’t ask him this is Ross Atkins in quotes we actually didn’t ask him to go to an unnatural extent or have him be a part of our presentation because I’m sure that because of their relationship there was influence now look I’m reading it with my own inflections and everything I didn’t I did not hear Ross’s quote and and the inflections and and how he said these words but to assume that vlat would be there helping you you don’t know that remember this t Blue Jay’s team screwed with Vladimir Guerrero Jr’s service time to the extent where he is was not a free agent this year he’s a free agent next year he’s entering his fourth year of arbitration he’s a super two player because they messed with his service time when he should have been up he wasn’t so do you think Vladimir Guerero Jr is going to have glowing things to say about this organization Mark shyro recently was quoted saying something about how vlat is not a not a not a generational player or something to the effect somebody can maybe go find that and put that in the chat um are you kidding me hold on let’s see if we can actually maybe we can grab that real easy let’s go over here let’s let’s see if somewhere it’s in here I want to see if I can find that it’s got to be here it was October 2nd 2024 another redl day in the buffoonery of this front office blue jay zigzac declines to call Vladimir Guerrero Jr a generational player are the Red Sox the interest Kings or interest Emperors sleepy sleepy sleepy sleepy sleepy sleepy burito poop sleepy sleepy sleep sleepy sleepy sleepy burrito poop I’m for it Jim I give you credit last off seon I didn’t think my Mets would get stto after he got traded to the Yankees and you said why not there you go man Lamar you got Steve Cohen anything can happen and I was saying it last night and I’ll say it again tonight this man in the picture accordingly not a generational player according to Mark Shapiro is probably your next Superstar met so okay what are we doing guys you’re not going to use him in the presentation you’re you’re just expecting that because of their relationship there would be influence you think the influence is positive if anything the conversations they had behind the scenes was like yeah go play with the Mets I’ll be there next year that’s the conversation they probably had not hey come here because this is great I know I keep running this joke and I’m going to run it into the ground but we got cup holders in the 100 level now just installed them last year it’s really cool guys get to drink their drinks and then put it down and they don’t have to worry about someone kicking it over because mind as well trade Vladimir Guerrero to Mets because the Mets going to get go after him next off seon see they can’t trade him I don’t believe the Blue Jays can and will trade Vladimir Guerrero Jr because they are going to try to be making a wild card Run next year wild card I said not winning a division not winning the World Series they going to try to win the Wild Card next year and they’re going to need vlat to do that cuz they got to sell tickets they just spent a ton of money on that Stadium on that ballpark upgrading it adding restaurants adding facilities adding adding everything turning it into a a a business Powerhouse so you got to keep him you can’t trade him because as soon as you do the fan basee is going to check out so they won’t trade him and it’s also sort of the Otani thing the reason why the Angels could not trade Otani was because if he is not back it needs some of the blame needs to be on the player if vladim is not back you have to be able to to to assign some of the blame to him he chose not to return he left but if you trade him then it’s all on you man it is 100% on the front office in the team and they don’t want that heat they don’t want that heat especially when they’re going to especially when they’re going to try to again pivot and still tell you how you need to come out to the ballpark because we got the corona rooftop deck now it’s really cool I don’t feel good about where this team is going and I think the writing is on the wall for other superar players office needs to be fired all season ticket holders need to cancel their tickets I hope no one goes to any game and show Rogers mistake Canadian me thank you for the donation what needs to happen is the ownership and again I don’t look this is a unique situation there’s a board that probably has to approve this this but the Board needs to wake up today and say screw this we’re not doing this you two are fired we’re bringing somebody in and we’re not going to let this happen again they’re probably too far down the road again it’s too late to extend Vladimir Guerrero Jr it may not be too late to extend Bo you got to extend one of them it’s probably too late to extend vlat and anybody that’s heard my My Talking on the matter you’re probably like whoa Jim you’re backing up you’re changing your tune yes over the last week I have changed my tune I have been on the course of trade bow extend vlat but after this woto deal I think it’s too late to extend vlat and you can’t trade him so at this point it’s extend bow that’s your best bet you can’t let you can’t see them both leave and again I think vlat and Juan stto probably had conversations behind behind uh closed doors saying yeah dude just just yeah I’ll be there I’ll be there next year that Steve Cohen will give me $550 million to go play with you guys for 14 years you’ll be there for 14 more like they’ll line it up perfectly they’ll play together for 14 years vlat will sign a 14-year contract uh stto will be entering the year two um with with 14 more to go it’ll be great the two will become a dynamic Powerhouse a dynamic duo sto and vlat it’ll be amazing and the Toronto Blue Jay fans are going to be sitting there raising their hands pissed off that shyro and Atkins let this happen anyway I’m frustrated I’m concerned as a blue jays fan that this a dark era it just feels like if you screw up this whole Vladimir Guerrero junr thing you get a rep around the league and you’re really going to have you’re really going to have to rely on your farm system being that damn good and it’s not all right that’s that I spent more time on that than I wanted to but this is the these are all the thoughts that the Jordan Romano signing conjured up again just wait for him to pass the physical just wait that’ll be fun I wonder what blue jay fans that are still shills for Atkins and shapy will say then when Romano passes the physical what and what will they say when Romano saves 30 games for the Phillies next year well you know they they were doing no they were just making more poor decisions that were leading your baseball team into the goddamn gutter angry Blue Jays fan I am aren’t I okay I hope I’m wrong God boy I hope I’m wrong let me just add that disclaimer I hope I’m wrong I hope Jordan Rano sucks with the Phillies I hope that they sign Anthony santand there and Max freed I hope I hope I hope cuz I don’t want it to go to [ __ ] I’m I’m just I’m afraid I’m afraid we headed for a lock out when the CBA ends oh Nick yes probably probably it’s sad it’s sad I think we probably are I’m at a Crossroads I’m a capitalist but I want a salary cap for baseball help me Sean what needs to happen thank you for the donation Sean thank you for the donation Nick Nick again to give your super chat some more breath I do think we are in for a very interesting situation BL JS know they can’t extend Vlad why not trade him and get something SD traded sto and the Mets should get Vlad now and extend so they don’t have to bid again or trade him at the deadline all right so quickly to Sean basically it’s a quick answer the cheap skate owners that don’t want to spend money need to get out the writing is on the wall you have to spend money there needs to be a salary floor and the cheap skates that don’t want to spend money sell your team Cash Out sell it to somebody that will we cannot have uh these these business focused we got to turn a profit um if we’re not at such and such a profit or or if our if our attendance isn’t this then our payrolls got to be this the they the it’s they’re the the guys that are just going to and and and again that’s not even a problem in some instances some instances it’s literally just I’m not going to spend money um they got to go they got to go made in heaven so I talked a minute ago made in heaven maybe you weren’t here for it the Toronto Blue Jays cannot trade Vladimir Guerrero Jr and it’s a similar story as to why the the Angels could not trade sh Otani you when the player leaves you have to be able to shift some of the the anger and the focus and the blame on the player and if the player leaves in free agency you can always say we tried guys we gave him this offer we offered him 14 years at $500 million he didn’t take it we tried oh you know what I we’re right there with you we’re angry that he’s gone we tried they can do that if he walks in free agency they can’t do that if they trade him so the Optics of it from that perspective that’s number one and number two the winning element of the of the club um the gats were trying to lock up stto it wasn’t going to happen and the gats were also kind of turning the corner going the wrong way so it made sense for the Nats to trade stto because it was about to go downhill and it would have been a waste of of of of talent and time and money to pay him the arbitration dollars as that team was doing nothing so that’s why the gats traded him the Padre’s traded him because the Padre’s it was not that same kind of attachment with the Padres and sto as it is with the blue jays and vat so yes there is that correlation Superstar player generational player even though Mark shyro doesn’t want to admit it I will I I get it but there’s just a different emotion and a closeness between the Blue Jays and vlat than there was with stto and the Padres so for those two reasons three reasons and the other reason is the Blue Jays are going to be trying to make the playoffs next year they’re going to try to get a wild card spot and if you’re if you’re trying to make it into the postseason you got to keep your guys I don’t think they’re going to trade so so for those reasons I don’t see a Vladimir Guerrero Jr trade happening all right let’s where do we want to go to next there’s the Romano there’s that let’s talk about let’s talk about tasar Hernandez for a second because I don’t think we need to spend too A whole lot of time we had just a couple of days ago all of the news that tasa Hernandez was that the Dodgers and tail were working on a deal they were they were hammering out the the details and now all of a sudden it’s starting to feel like maybe there’s not going to be a reunion uh Doug McCain two hours ago at the winter meetings shout out Doug being down there in Dallas asking Dave Roberts about the chance of losing tasar Hernandez and this is what Dave Roberts said it’d be tough I’m huge fan of Tao ta has put himself in a very good position as a free agent so he’s got some decisions to make himself it’d be hard for me not to see him come back the Michael conforto thing obviously tasar Hernandez is up here and Michael conforto is down here maybe some of you want to create an even larger Gap we’re on the same page there’s a gap but it kind of feels like even though the Dodgers are not out on T Oscar Hernandez they now have the reasons to move on and I don’t I’m not saying I want that to happen the problem is we have a gap here it is this is uh baseball trade rumors where did it come from though uh Aiden Gonzalez reporting that the two sides have been negotiating and are stuck with a gap let me find it let’s go down here uh how might the conal signing impact the pursuit of tasar Hernandez Dodgers and Hernandez have been in negoti for the past few weeks but have been unable to bridge the gap sources familiar with the processes have said I thought the Dodgers wanted it back I thought teoscar wanted to be back when you have two parties both with mutual feelings how do you not have it done by now how do you not have this done and with all of the options they have now it starts to my mind really creates some doubt you have and he highlights it here at the moment conforto Edmund and PES project as the outfielder with mooki Betts likely headed back to Short Stop Lux at second Betts at Short Edmond at center now this doesn’t mean you can’t add teoscar Hernandez back into the mix but they have financially committed to Tommy Edmond conforto is a one-year situation but you don’t sign conforto and have him platoon I don’t think for that much money there’s other options if you want a lefty platoon you wouldn’t bring teoscar Hernandez back and have him have to what play the matchups so you now unfortunately have the path to where the Dodgers can move on I’m shocked I’m surprised I really thought that we would see a teoscar re from Dodgers waiting too long well we had we had speculated recklessly that maybe they with with those negotiations a couple days ago that they had sort of been in a spot where hey look this is let’s let’s let’s let’s try to hammer out the details we can’t sign anything until the sto deal so just let’s let’s get close so that way when that’s done we can get back together I don’t know where things stand and how I I really I don’t know where things stand I don’t feel very comfortable my my confidence rating for teoscar Hernandez going back to the Dodgers is shrinking by the day because now you’ve got a Yankees team a Red Sox team and a blue jay team that is feeling the hurt and needs the pop the New York Mets could go get teoscar Hernandez if they wanted to look I mean Starling Starling Marte only got one more year left and the Mets need a power bat I’m not saying they would I just what I’m saying is Tasco Hernandez has options and now so do the Dodgers so two teams two two entities the player and the team that sounded like they wanted to get back together both have options which I think really hurts the chance of them getting back together I would like to see teoscar back with the Dodgers I would like to see him in Toronto why would he go back to Toronto though when vlat is most likely walking look we won’t know that it will not be made public it will not be that that even though somebody would love to grab it that’s not going to get out there but teoscar vlat they’re friends they’re good friends T Oscar calls up vlat says what’s what’s going on man are you locked are you there for the long term and V’s like man I don’t know that’s all you need to hear if you’re teoscar hernandz or any other free agent I don’t know so we are keeping an eye on this teoscar Hernandez and Dodger situation A A Reunion that looked like it was one of the easier ones Jeff passon said that tasar Hernandez could be one of the earliest names off the board and now that is the opposite of of of things maybe it’s the Tigers SD Mike we could definitely see the Tigers 100% Tigers the Red Sox Yankees the Blue Jays the Kansas City Royals the Pittsburgh Pirates if they Pony up the money there’s Jim how many World Series do you think the Mets will win the next 15 years with Soto I think if Soo signed with the Yankees it would be Dodgers Yankees in the next 15 years what are your thoughts Canadian Mikey thank you for the donation they got a few in them I can’t say that the Mets will win as many World Series Championships as you know maybe the Dodgers the Yankees would have if SoDo was on board and the reason being again to get to the World Series if you’re in the American League feels like an easier path than in the National League so it’s going to be harder to make the world series number one and the other element is the Mets are going to have to get over the Dodgers and otani’s there for another 10 years and yamamoto’s locked in long term and they’re going to keep replenishing constantly so the Dodgers aren’t going to away so the fact that the Mets are going to have to get past the Dodgers I mean it’s going to set up for some incredible playoff matchups whether it is the NLCS or based on seating we see them meet up earlier it’s it really there’s there’s there’s some great National League October baseball coming I do think we have some how many want me to give you a number it’s hard to win the World Series ask Dave Roberts in the 15 years I think I know what you want me to say you probably want me to say like six or seven half of that time in the 15 years I will say I would set three as the over under and many of you may take the under on that I understand because I feel like three is the number I feel like three is the number many of you may want to take the under and that’s fine um Nando you’ll give him one lionhardt you’ll give him one I would say I I gotta think I got there’s a lot of really t a lot of talented players in that pipeline they’re going to spend money now they’re going back to it is going to be World Series or bus mode so the talent acquisition is going to be through the roof you have David Sterns in his scouting department and his scouting ways making the decisions now not Billy up I feel like three over 15 years two or three I see some twos I I could you could probably talk me into two I’m going to give them the credit and I’m going to say three I’m GNA say three okay um NL is definitely hard to rush you’re 100% right that is that is going to be the thing you that’s three considering the Dodgers are probably going to win you know 10 of the other ones I’m kidding it’s not going to be a run we’re not going to see the national league win the World Series for 15 straight years but it’s I mean maybe actually can we can we let’s talk about that for a second what hopes does the American League have to win the World Series over the next 10 years Aaron judge is only going to get older the Astros you can see the decline coming with the free agency and the Aging players maybe the Orioles Step Up got to get some pitching the Red Sox could be on the rise it’s going to be tough the American League is going to be tough because it’s there you don’t see any like dynasties building in the American League the Astros seem to be going away and again many of you don’t want to call them a dynasty but what was it seven straight eight straight ALCS appearances it’s a mini Dynasty at the very least at the very as far as the American League is concerned uh and in the National League you got the Braves you got the Mets you got the Dodgers you got the Phillies it’s going to be tough the American League is in for a rough go all right there’s the teoscar Hernandez piece let’s talk about can I find the max freed thing real quick Let’s do let’s by the way is anything happening are we quiet tonight how are we quiet on a night of the winter meetings how are we seriously looking at a day like we could get this Garrett crochet thing from Ken Rosenthal anytime I have a piece coming out tomorrow I didn’t release it today because today was all about woto tomorrow midday you can expect to see um my uh trade piece that will include framber Valdez it sort of circles around the Tristan casses tra Tristan Casas trade talk uh and and it includes a uh Houston Astros deal because there is the Astros are not ruling out the possibility of moving Valdez or Tucker I think you have to keep Tucker but Valdez you can you should you have to I had a video a couple days ago making the case for the Astros to trade for Amber Valdez and you’ve got uh three primary reasons why the first the future of the team the farm system it is one of the worst in baseball if you trade for Amber Valdez who still has good enough value to bring back two of somebody’s Top 10 Prospects which will boost your system even though he’s entering his final year fber Valdez you got to move him for the future of the team because you’re probably not going to be giving framber Valdez $30 million a year for five or six years which is how this is all headed right so for that case you got to move them uh also you have a schedule for what is going on at the winter meetings William I do not have a schedule I do not I appreciate your donation I don’t have that I um I’m not sure if you’re looking for something specific to like because I know well you’ll have the rule five draft at the end and there’s things like that but U as far as everything else you got teams you got GMS you got everybody meeting with everybody throughout so you know from a scheduling perspective really the big thing is the what’s up Robert the big thing is is it closes out with the rule five draft and all that so you’ve got the future of the team you have the from from a financial perspective and what the Astros need to do um it kind of makes sense to move him and bring back of that package back somebody that can step in uh because from a position standpoint perspective they could use a piece there can you make a trade where you get a first basement back in return for framber volz so I think that there is all there there are three really solid really good reasons to deal for Ember Valdez again I have a video up on that spent about 10 minutes on the reason reasons why the Astros have to trade forber Valdez and I will have a trade proposal tomorrow included so I want to get to Max freed though there’s Max all right I think I can probably find I can probably find what I’m looking for just by doing this let’s see the Yankees are already pursuing Max freed they’ve had Zoom meetings we know this it is nothing new we know that they are they are they are going after them they’re looking at them let me see here don’t need that you know where it is it’s on it’s on MLB Network here it is that’s right it’s MLB Network I don’t need to be looking at Max freed Mark F say where is it Mark feon was on MLB Network talking about the Yankees talking about Max free I want to play this because again we need to use the correct wording here talking about what teams are going to do what they want to do what they will do here it is let’s get the audio teed up for this just clarify it was $760 Million over 16 years so it’s not they’re going to go hand out $760 Million worth of contracts for the next four there is a Max freed again a conversation starting point from this um minute clip six years that said there’s a lot of money to spend there and they’re going to spend it you have to figure there are holes on this roster that Brian Cashman has to deal with uh first base is one of them second base or third base is another one Alex bregman maybe possibility at third base move jazz Chism over to Second uh left field another possibility maybe Cody Bellinger a trade to bring him in move Aaron judge back to right field Jason Dominguez one of their top prospects takes over in Center there’s a little bit of flexibility in terms of schism can play a couple positions judge can move back to right uh Max freed is a name I would watch the Yankees are definitely looking to add to the starting pitching rotation I think freed is a guy they have interest in and could be on their radar and the bullpen got to be addressed as well Tanner Scott the top closer on the market I think that’s another guy the Yankees could certainly be looking at so I I think when you look at all of these names I don’t think it’s going to be a situation where it’s one guy I think the Yankees could go out and sign two three then make a trade maybe there are going to be some new names on this roster that they have to address that they were probably going to have to address even if woto had taking their deal the likelihood the Yankees make a massive move here at the winter meetings I’m saying 90% Mark vinan uh I would go with your pie chart on that one I would say about 90% as well my gut tells me Max freed might be that guy um um but we’ll see might could look the max free to the Yankees thing it it’s close enough as it is we don’t need to take from that that the Yankees will sign Max freed could they yes they could sign Max freed they could sign Corbin Burns they could sign Jack flare they could sign uh Walker bu they could sign native Aldi there’s a lot of options for the New York Yankees I would really if I’m a Yankee fan look Max freed would be great it would be exciting but that lineup needs to be worked on and I would if I’m trying to prioritize my time and my dollars I would be really focusing on the bats again the dart board the center of the Yankees dart board the plan the needs it’s all about that lineup right now if you enter 2025 with the current rotation you’ll be okay you won’t be okay if that lineup does not get the work that it needs so the max freed stuff almost feels like it’s a distraction it’s like it’s there it could happen he has interest we have interest let’s go do it okay but what if while you’re working on the max freed the the the Bost of Red Sox swoop in and grab I don’t know Anthony sandir or or Christian Walker or some somebody to that degree I think the Yankees need to focus on the bats and and when it comes to Max freed yes the Yankees are involved in in play the Boston Red Sox are there too the Toronto Blue Jays are rumored to be a team as well San Francisco has been linked I feel like the lead teams got to be Boston has to be they’ve missed out on a lot of free agents and it’s scary it it has to be scary for them to start to get the feeling in their stomach reminding them of last year because last year they said it was going to be Full Throttle now they didn’t use that terminology this offseason but they kind of said the same thing we are spending money we are done we have developed the players we have the young core we now are going to build around them we are going to spend spend spend all right great look you can say you want to spend but you can’t Force players to go to your team I feel like the Braves or not the Braves but the Red Sox are going to get to a position where they basically to avoid this thing from taking a hard left because they’ve already they were in on Blake Snell they missed out on him they were in on us Kikuchi they missed out on him teoscar Hernandez preference one is the Dodgers and unless you can overpay to bring him over feels like the boss is going to have to open up and spend more for Max freed to make sure Max freed doesn’t go somewhere else because Max freed has options when you have a market and your Market is including a New York team if you have an LA team great but if you’ve got a New York team you’re in great you’re in a great spot I can’t imagine he ends up on a national league east team um you know the the Phillies or or the Mets that’s that seems like it’s the furthest thing from any kind of reality but the Red Sox they’ve got to be the lead team and I cannot give the Toronto Blue Jays any serious weight here because again Max freed is looking for that six seven-year deal what about the blue jay’s plan and process makes Max freed feel comfortable agreeing to a long-term contract now he can always open up the uh the opt out window and get out of there after 2 years or 3 years if it doesn’t go well but what’s one of the new trends in baseball giving teams the option to void the opt out Garett Cole had that uh it was really awkward the way it all went down but the Yankees had it after meetings today and it’s got to right it’s got to uh this has been a very quiet day it it is literally been rumors about bregman and freed and what the pivots could be for the stto losers and Jordan Romano to the Phillies that’s that’s that’s kind of been it um the Red Sox have to go get Max freed they’ve got to be the lead team if the Blue Jays land them I’ll be shocked I can’t see the Blue Jays probably I can’t see the Blue Jays agreeing to the opt outs because the opt outs he would take them so we’ve got some Max free talk that’s popped up and I just want to make sure that we clarify everything Mark feinan did not say the Yankees will sign Max freed he said he they could sign Max freed that’s as far as it goes it did not cross the line into will category so max free talk we can dig that back up if you want to let’s talk let’s take a look at Alex bregman let’s go to where do we want to go to this what is the latest on Al Alex Brean right now does anybody let me pose the question to you guys does anybody really believe that Alex bregman could be again we’re focusing on the the sto pivots here does anybody really believe that Alex bregman could go and play for the New York Yankees like really straight face you believe that that could happen after 2017 a after you know how this fan base hates him um all of that I I I feel like the reasons why we’re not hearing the big reporters and big insiders talking about uh bregman is is not a fit for the Yankees is because well there’s a couple things number one um it’s a bold statement to say no way he’ll ever play for the Yankees because of the history there and because the fan base hates him you don’t usually hear your MLB Network guys your ESPN guys your Fox guys you don’t you you don’t typically hear that kind of talk uh so that’s one reason the other reason is if you were to do that and you were to be the reason why Alex ragman’s Market gets nuked because that’s what would happen if the Nar if John hayon or or or Mark fand or or or anybody started running around saying no the Yankees won’t do it all of that Yankee talk is garbage then we’re going to have a pro then then that Insider is going to have a source problem who’s bregman’s agent it’s Scott Bor and if you take the New York Yankees out of the equation from a public perception from a uh from a negotiating in the public space from it’s not really a leak but it it’s it’s a closely related cousin to a leak I I would say if you were out there saying no way the Yan Yankees would ever do this and eventually it gets around all the Yankees have no interest then you have hurt Alex bregman’s Market which means you have pissed Scott Bor off so you don’t have anybody who has Scott Bor or at least Boris Corp agents and personnel as sources you don’t want them mad at you so that’s one reason why I don’t think we hear them shooting down bregman to the Yankees but I can’t see it and I don’t have to worry about Boris Boris Corp any agents any sources any I don’t see it at all if Alex bregman has a market it’s the Mets it’s the Red Sox it’s the Tigers it’s the Blue Jays that’s all we really need isn’t that good enough you got the Blue Jays you got the Red Sox you got the Mets why are we pulling the Yankees into this thing I don’t see it cwe what was your thought I didn’t see your comment earlier where were you hold on I’ll scroll up my Yankee fans are you in on the idea of bregman putting on Pinstripes I don’t see it for those that need the refresher I think Yankees going to stop doing business with Boris that could be it for anybody that needs a refresher again we don’t need to go down into a 2017 hate Fest but the Houston Astros beat the New York Yankees in the ALCS in 2017 now every time Houston goes to the Bronx Alex bregman and Jose Altuve get booed mercilessly Springer still gets booed Korea still gets booed this is why the Mets don’t have a problem because the Mets did not lose firsthand to the Astros in 2017 so for that reason I can’t see any Astros attached to the 2017 Yan to the 2017 Astro team that beat the Yankees in the ALCS I cannot see them any of them being a New York Yankee the Mets are different because they are not directly connected I can’t see it for that reason that is it the fan base hates them maybe maybe Cashman would love to have Alex bregman but he knows that to too much of the fan base can’t stand him so I cannot see it again you have Boston you have the Mets you have the Blue Jays those three teams should be enough to drive the price up you don’t need the Yankees for Alex prman so when you hear that stuff every time I hear it I in the back of my mind I’m like this guy hates that he’s saying this right now whoever it is if it’s fineand if it’s Rosenthal if it’s anybody I think to myself this guy has to hate that he’s saying this right now because he’s got to know deep down in his heart that there’s no way that what he’s saying is factual but because he doesn’t want to burn the Boris Bridge which is important to these guys you don’t want to burn the Boris bridge and you also don’t want to go out there and say something is definitively not going to happen because it could happen definitively to that point I I I can’t I can’t see it happening what’s hold on we have some notifications let’s see if there’s anything new has been a quiet night uh starting pitching and hitting appear to be biggest priorities for the Blue Jays but they’re also surveying the relief Market names and more again you give me uh blue jay deals one and two year deal guys I can see anybody the long-term contract guys I am very suspicious of let’s do it let’s go to the ultimate aggregator MLB trade rumors and see what’s new again any super chats will be given priority at this point the the players and the topics and the subjects that I was planning to dig into Romano teoscar bregman uh and the Yankees talk freed uh the pivot guys I have sort of touched based on what I wanted what I planed to touch on think the Phillies trade boom they will 100% get Breakman if so do they need to move or boom fast well the thing about Alec bom is if you trade or no if you sign bregman you you do need to have a bom trade t that’s what makes it I feel like that’s what makes it hard to to to make such a move when you know such a big corresponding move has to be attached should sign Christian Walker Max Fred and Tanner Scott and then trade for Cody Bellinger that would be a good plan B Frankie the bag of donuts thank you for the donation there was an article similar to that kind of line of thinking that would be fascinating that aggressive of an offseason if that’s how they go and it at the end of the day if you are a Yankee fan You’ probably be very happy with that if that’s how the off season worked out we’re disappointed we lost stto but Christian Walker we’ve got Walker and Bellinger in that lineup we got two guys now we got Scott in the bullpen freed in the rotation I you I think Yankee fans would be thrilled here’s the thing though Frankie bag of donuts and other Yankee fans you’re probably going to agree with me in this element you’re kind of expecting the Yankees to do that and if they don’t do that there’s going to be frustration and anger right like that’s not your wish list that is your that’s what you need to do thing right and I agree with you that is what they need to do can they do all of that all right um uh let’s see Graves thank you Braves Thrills that’s exactly it man uh I’m a blue jays fan somebody asked earlier if I had a second team if I had a second team I it’s it’s it’s a it’s a 29 way tie um I cover all I talk about all the entire league all of MLB um and as Brave Thrills puts it because I uh I have put it that way all of these teams I look at them like they’re my children so there are going to be times when a team uh brings Pride my way I feel great for that team I am proud of that team I will say nothing but good things and that same team could do something to disappoint me and get the necessary treatment so you can be praised one minute and criticize the next it’s all it’s it is a fans side of view but all they’re all I treat them all like they’re my kids you can be praised you can be criticized I I can pump you up I can I can be disappointed that’s how they all kind that’s that’s how they all sort of sit uh but the question so so Frankie Bag of Donuts we’re good Colin the regman element and boom they do need they do kind of go in hand and and once you execute one of those things I I guess if you were to try to prioritize and put things in an order wouldn’t it be signing bregman first and then trying to find a taker for bom because if you trade bom then you have a hole at third base if you bring in bregman and you can’t find a taker for bom you can figure something out but because of the multiple dominoes there look I like the Phillies as a fit for bregman but because of those dominoes I would I would put bregman behind uh I I would put bregman behind other teams I think there’s a good night I think there’s a good chance I think there’s a good chance that you know we’re talking about bregman as a potential met they uh Steve Cohen had no problem going for Carlos kareah I don’t know if the tigers are going to want to pay look how much does Alex bregman won bregman and Boris believe that he is at least a $200 million guy do the Detroit Tigers feel that way now the New York Mets may not feel that way but if that’s what they think they need to do to get him done and they feel like it improves the team then I could see the Mets going and getting bregman and just saying well whatever uh $200 million I there’s a different exchange rate for US than there is the Detroit Tigers $200 million means something different to Detroit than it does to us so yeah we’ll give it to him it’s no problem Boston if you go get him you’re moving you you are pulling pulling the trigger on moving DEA first then right or is bregman going to go play second for Boston and then you wonder about Tristan casus I wouldn’t trade Tristan cus if I’m Boston to bring in Alex bregman there’s literally nobody I would trade Tristan casus for you have a ton of prospects that haven’t proven anything at the major league level yet however they still have a lot of value because they have a very high ceiling it’s untapped potential this guy could be amazing a lot of blue sky with that Prospect you’re trading based on that and they have a lot of that move a piece or two from that category to get your pitching I do think Boston sign Max freed trade for Garrett crochet your rotation would be incredible they could do it in my opinion and you would see a uh you could you would see a package going to the white socks full of prospects and it works you don’t need to tr New York is the Yankees town and this is why the Yanks will go big to prevent the Mets from claiming the title well this is another reason why the Yankees losing stto to the Mets it doesn’t hurt as much cuz the Mets still got to get through the Dodgers the Mets got to get through the Braves and the Phillies they have to go go through one hell of a battle in the National League East and then they’re going to probably meet up with the Dodgers and they may meet up with the Braves and Phillies again just to get to the World Series and maybe the Yankees are standing there but you the Yankees do need to go out there and go big and if they don’t go big to the tune of the Super Chat from earlier from Frankie Bag of Donuts where it’s Christian Walker fre Tanner Scott and Cody Bellinger they don’t go big that’s that is again that’s not my Christmas wish list if I’m a Yankee fan that is my level of expectation those are two different things yeah Yankees are going to have to go big Joseph would the Red Sox trade for Shawn Murphy I do not believe the Braves would trade Shawn Murphy under any circumstance right now maybe they would like to but I I cannot see Shawn Murphy getting moved no matter what uh rumors might be out there or anything I think Shawn Murphy uh is going to is going to remain teal you like lazardo to Boston I mean the only difference between lazardo and crochet and it’s a big difference is that you know crochet is healthy and firing on all cylinders with lazardo lardo’s got to show that he’s healthy and back which I don’t doubt that Lardo won’t be back and and won’t be healthy but he’s got to show it first with so so that may cause some concern and and some pause in trade talks but gar crochet full steam ahead on a trade you could do that for sure crochet has been talked about and the Cubs trade the Seattle Trade the three-way deal I’ve seen that Greg yep white socks Cubs Mariners where the uh the white socks would take a ton of prospects as they send crochet to the Cubs and the Cubs would send Nico Herer to Seattle maybe Nico hor and Cody Bellinger pieces moving all around there Colin you’re you’re it’s uh listed is Rosenthal right now is where would no Rosenthal is not going to be anywhere right now right um that would you would that would be on the uh on foul territory is anything happening over here do I need to reload this he’d fly in you know a couple times a month and spend a series with us and uh the value that he brought to by the way this Cleveland rotation bringing Bieber back be interesting to see what Cleveland can do next year bringing Bieber back Bieber BBY Williams Lively was good you need McKenzie to find it again Logan Allen needs a bounce back if Cleveland can get the bounce back from Williams and Allen and Bieber good to go that Cleveland rotation could be pretty good 7 million for Romano are the Philly dumb slow burner no they are most certainly not the Toronto Blue Jays Ross Atkins Mark shapy that’s where the dumb Falls ball cap could we raise funds to send you to winter meetings next year also how do you feel crowd at Yankee Stadium will react back to Soto’s first return holy cow that first return o o it’s I I I really I cannot see a video tribute and the crowd cheering for him no that’ll be loud it’ll there’ll be booze it’ll be loud um slow burer I disagree you’re thinking about he gave up some home runs last year he he dealt with the impingement he wasn’t right um look time will tell but I’m at a point where I don’t trust anything that the Toronto Blue Jays front office does and the Philadelphia Phillies have a track record of making smart Personnel player acquisition decisions so I’m if if Jordan Romano had signed with the Colorado Rockies it would be like Robert trade these meetings but he went to Philly it’s different um KD I have actually thought about going to the winter meetings I just I have to line some things up for that it’s a tough time of year for me to get away a lot of family stuff going on uh my wife’s job and how busy her uh fourth quarter is it is tough I would what I what I want and need to have happen is I the winter meetings got to get back on the East Coast got to get close to me a couple of years ago before I started doing the channel they were in DC at at the Gaylord National Hotel that was an hour away if I was doing this then I would have I would have gone even if I didn’t have uh you know credentials or clearance I could have gone and set up shop uh you know close by uh they they still rent out hotel rooms I could have gotten in a hotel room and just hung out in the lobby so there’s I they got to I they just got to get close by they just got to get close uh will we see a Robert trade these meetings Ed I would love to see that I want to see something happen because again today all we’ve had is rumors and Jordan Romano rumors and Romano have carried the day I I’m I’m in shock again more rumors right uh Derek gold who uh who commented that Tony thank you Tony Cardinal seeking to trade Nolan AR ronado for best interest of both sides that’s a great one isn’t it that’s a great one that reeks of irony I do think they’re going to try but who wants to take Nolan Aron’s contract the rest of the way I don’t think anybody do you think the Red’s interest in crochet is a oneoff or do you think they are legitimately wanting to add another starter I think it’s legit I think it’s legit um Ed I would love to see a Romano trade though just to to to your point um we had heard some talk that the white socks are intent on moving him they’re they’re not going to be in a mode where they’re trying to get him back out there in 2025 and have him build his value back up that they’re interested in moving him regardless I would love a Romano a Robert trade Sean the crochet thing I do think there is some legitimate interest there because the Cincinnati Reds are probably looking at their current window as a tight one to compete because when you think about their situation you think about all of that young talent you have I mean you worked out a a great deal with hunter green all right you had hunter green locked in you got you got a club option for $21 million in 2029 so you have four years five years of hunter green and I feel like that’s probably what they view as their window to compete and try to win something something substantial because along that same window of time you’ve got Ellie De La Cruz you’ve got Matt mlan going to the Mets doesn’t hurt as much the Yankees still has the Martian Jass and Dominguez and if he puts up sto numbers I would be happy mhm I’ll get you two seconds Franky you’ve got Christian anonos on strand who you be looking for bounce back there’s a lot of good young Talent here that you bulk up as best you can for this rotation because if you think you’re going to win something significant you probably have a fiveyear window to do it because you’re not going to I don’t think you’ll be locking El DEA Cruz up long term ell de Cru is a is not going to be a Wan sto like situation but it’s going to be be substantial it’s going to be big time maybe it will let’s see what Ellie De La Cruz does over the next couple years he’s certainly tracking to be a a generational Superstar by the time he hits free agency and he’s only going to be let’s see he’s 20 he’s turning 23 uh 24 25 26 27 28 so he’ll be entering his age 29 season that first year of free agency so you so you won’t get the 15-year deal but I I ell Cruz Matt mlan um Christian andos strand all hit free agency at the same time Spencer steer Hits free agency the year before I know Steer had a down year last year but you’re going to expect him to bounce back you’ve got uh hunter green locked in I I think you’re just you’re thinking about building a team that can do something significant over this window of time so I do believe the interest for gar crochet is genuine the uh so Frankie let’s see soda going to the metch doesn’t hurt as much the Yankees still have the Martian Dominguez and if he puts up soda numbers I would be happy you can’t expect him to put up stto numbers but it will be kind of fun to finally see Jason Dominguez get the get the Run get the everyday opportunity I’m looking forward to seeing Jason Dominguez out there every day all the time so I I’m I’m I’m for that this Nolan AR ronado situation though what’s the best interest of both sides the Cardinals are essentially telling you that you have that they are not going to be looking to exchange salaries or anything like that so talk of the Dodgers adding Chris Taylor into the deal or anything like that I I don’t know if that’s enough to get the job done Nolan wants to be a Dodger short there’s a lot of talk going on about that b I don’t know if you’re here you’re sending me stuff I know I but the Dodgers and the Cardinals have to be able to figure this out and the Dodgers make smart decisions it’s the reason why possibly this teoscar hernandes deal is hung up the Dodgers are smart with their decision making they’re not emotional hey it’d be great to have Nolan aronal on the team but if this does not fit our plan and our structure we’re not going to do it tasar Hernandez it’d be great to have him back on the team but if it’s not smart and doesn’t fit our structure we’re not going to do it and I almost feel like the Cardinals need the Dodgers more than the Dodgers need the Cardinal and this situation the the Cardinals need the Dodgers to take Nolan arado more than the Dodgers need to get Nolan arado and that is a huge component in a negotiation when you are a cardinal team hoping to dump some of this salary Cardinals have approached around four to five teams Cardinals have approached it’s interesting that he used that kind of wording I’ve been I’ve been really hung up and focused on the wording that is used in these things because when we start changing words around we’re changing the meaning around the Max freed thing earlier Mark fan did not say will he said could Cardinals have approached around four five teams doesn’t say that four or five teams have approached the Cardinals Cardinals are running around trying to get the deal done Scoops again we have to give Scoops some credit two people that I want to give credit to from last night MLB Scoops moments before the deal was announced again I don’t know if MLB Scoops is the driver for Steve Cohen which he might be [ __ ] can anybody debunk that that MLB Scoops isn’t Steve Cohen’s chauffeur told us yesterday that Boris and Cohen got off or maybe he’s boris’s driver told us that I mean if you were that person wouldn’t you wouldn’t you wouldn’t you do that if you were the driver or or the chauffeur or or or I don’t know a security detail I don’t know but he told us minutes before the deal was announced that Boris and Cohen got off a 10-minute phone call just got off a 10-minute phone call and then like five minutes later the deal was announced and also Bill Madden needs credit because Bill Madden an hour before the deal was announced basically told us everything all right what is this talkman to the white side and see that’s the kind of validity that I’m looking for it’s not a big deal it’s not just MLB Scoops try I’m becoming an MLB Scoops guy again what do we call their Community again are we scoopers is that what it is are we scoopers and when things go wrong we’re pooper scoopers what is this I don’t know what I am but I’m starting to buy MLB Scoops talk me to the white socks okay looking for guys looking for veterans looking for Innings Innings from position players anything else talkman again thank you guys those of you if you see something say something I do appreciate it Underdog MLB tweeting rosenthals got the Mets in the Yankees most aggressive suitors for G crochet here they go again the Mets and the Yankees they haven’t had enough of each other yet now it’s time to duel for crochet this would not be about who’s got the most money to spend this would be about who’s going to be most aggressive with their prospects Nicholas it’s scoop Nation feels like there’s an opportunity like honestly if you’re somebody like that why not like start a YouTube channel just like live behind a curtain and and put on like like one of those voice things to like change your voice and and just start pumping stuff out there’s got to there’s got to be an opport for you outside of just Twitter right linhardt the Blue Jays should trade for burger and Pablo Lopez sign Scott and finegan that’d be a nice upgrade to the bullpen Scott finnean um I don’t know if they want to take on that Lopez contract that Lopez contract’s really really it’s a big time raise that Lopez is is looking at Burger is a sneaky nice player but but there’s too many position players that need to get some run 2.0 yes Plaza oh there you go throwback that’s not bad that’s not bad look I have said some things over the last week that probably would upset some Red Sox fans I hope we’re past that now again I don’t hate the Red Sox I actually really like the Red Sox I hate how things got completely out of control Tao and Des that’d be nice what about what about des and S tondere though you get S tondere you get Best of Both Worlds man you get the best of both worlds with sond there you got the Lefty wrapping it around the pesky pole you got the righty popping it over the monster sere would be the best of both worlds crochet would be a great fit Stephen on the Orioles I wonder as I the other day sort of downplayed and threw some th some pour some cold water on the Tyler O’Neal thing signing Tyler O’Neal for three years has to make one of your young guys Expendable whether it’s Colton cowser hon kirad Ryan Mount Castle who already is is has been linked to trade rumors there now now with the with with actually going out and getting Tyler O’Neal I feel like you have to trade one of them now I like him too but I don’t see the fit I don’t see the reason why you going get him when you have when you need to create a path for Kobe Mayo guys Ryan mountcastle can play Left Field mounty in left cowser in Center or cower in right and Mullins in center and then when Mullins leaves VI a free agency cowser back to Center and then has secure STS in right and it opens up the first base spot for Mayo I don’t I don’t understand why you bring in Tyler O’Neal just to Log Jam things up unless you’re going to and you have all the intent to trade kirad or cower now would the white socks want either of those two players back in the deal because the arbitration clock has already started ticking on those players and I don’t know if the white sock want that back now the white sock could always trade for those guys and then spin them off again but that’s too many steps I feel like if you’re trading if you’re the white socks and you’re doing a deal with the Orioles you’re asking for Mayo you’re asking for baso you want the the the top the cream of that crop and I don’t from what we’ve seen how the Orioles operate yes they have dealt a lot of young players lately but they but they’ve really been staying away from a a a certain uh section of that farm system uh rankings and they’re GNA have they would have to t w without without seeing him I know Joey Ortiz was a top prospect but they brought him up they saw what he had they moved him DL Hall was the top prospect at one point they brought him up they saw what he had they saw what he didn’t have they moved him I can’t imagine they’re going to with all the hype around baso and Mayo move them with without seeing what they have at the major league level um laptop guy crochet is 25 and has only 215 MLB Innings on his arm you’re basically getting a guy with one season’s worth of wear and tear with sa young upside exactly and I really like I know G crochet has that funky leg kick um but from the waist up I love his mechanics I I think that it plays I think that it plays for accuracy it plays for dominance uh I really like Garrett crochet mechanics I’ve become a big mechanics guy um over the last few months uh what to look for what not to look for when it comes to your glove when it comes to your head when it comes to your shoulders when it a lot of things right um and I and I like I like gal crochet mechanics more than I like TK sco’s mechanics now it works for TK scoel but he’s you know the the the the dropping dropping his love uh I think it could lead towards some trouble from a mechanical standpoint now maybe he’s just one of one which he probably is um but but that mechanical element for most pitchers is going to lead to wildness it’s not the way you would teach somebody to pitch the way TK scoble his mechanics his wind up his delivery um but crochet again you got the funky leg kick which is deceptive and then from the waist upop everything looks great yes Stephen B still year way so you’re not going to see baso anytime soon yeah no doubt what else do we got sorry for returning to this but Red’s winning window also plays with how long Frank Kona is Skipper he was hired to lead this group for postseason runs yes 100% uh Scoops is tweeting that Chris Paddock talked with Dodgers in trade so the twins move in Paddock for what that’d be interesting not much that I would think Paddock would be a bullpen piece could be a good Bullpen Edition for the Dodgers they’re also talking about the Dodgers interested in Devon Williams that’s another one from today again the rumors were endless today we could spend 12 hours on the rumors from today I want something close to the Finish Line I want something at the Finish Line um Eris let me just check something here there’s the talkman deal there’s something at the Finish Line exactly so and and I don’t think Frank con has got five years but yeah you’ve got Terry Frank Conan things are going to turn around in Cincinnati last year was supposed to be liftoff and it didn’t happen so now that’s this year this year’s got to be liftoff and you’re bringing in Brady singer you’re you’re you’re looking at gar crochet these are all moves you got to put together again the bar is the Dodgers if you end up in a playoff matchup against the Dodgers can you hang from a pitching perspective and if you are the Reds and you match up and you got Frank cona pulling the levers in The Dugout and you’ve got hunter green who was amazing last year I think it went very much under the radar but hunter green was awesome last year hunter green Garrett crochet if Brady singer can pitch again like he did last year you’re you’re you’re putting the piece together to go Toe totoe with the Dodgers that’s the bar and if you don’t have to face the Dodgers then great but the problem is if you don’t have to face the Dodgers you probably got to face the Mets the Braves or the Phillies and that’s really formidable as well so that’s really like that’s the the the bar in the National League to compete is to have multiple topof the rotation options and the Reds with the hiring of Frank Kona with the young talent that they have with probably the understanding that that young Talent if they don’t work out some extension similar to you know the Azie ALB extension or the aunia extension um you’re going to see those players leave in the next four to five years so the window’s tight they got to move on it they definitely have to move on it fragr Empire thank you man I try look the the bias that you will hear come out is and and lately and I don’t even know if it’s biased because I think a lot of people would agree with me on this lately I feel like I’m a little too negative bias on the Blue Jays I feel like I’m a I’m I’m I’m a little too strong in that department and I could take my I could take my foot off the gas there I’m just it has nothing to do with the fact that they lost the monoto Sleep Stakes I was expecting that it’s more for what the stto sweep Stakes brought to light about my franchise and sort of put it right in front of my face that’s what it is because even you heard me say it as we got into the beginning of the off season you heard me saying extend vlat trade bow that gym still had hope today I’m sitting here standing looking at you saying there is no vlat extension coming and and it’s because of the front office and I’m just so genuinely frustrated and angry about the front office so I maybe that maybe that’s there it frustration Lura you’re with me on that it’s the frustration but the frustration comes from the the personal the emotional connection and that’s where the bias can come from so if I’m being biased anywhere it’s there it’s there so I here somebody wants to talk about Roki Sasaki we can do that because Roki Sasaki has been posted here’s a question for you guys comment live in the chat who’s Roki Sasaki going to sign with let’s let’s let’s make this interactive where’s Sasaki going we can pull that up and let’s do this too oh look at the Padres love okay is that that just like two people spamming Padres it it it feels like it’s Padres or Dodgers and that’s what we’re see that’s that’s what’s in the chat that’s what I think is how it’s going to play out Padres or Dodgers unfortunately East Coast teams uh GM smokes I think the Yankees are going to be on the outside looking in I think this is going to be outside outside of the American League out away from the East Coast I think it should be West Coast tb12 is feeling some angels when the Angels landed Otani they were not expected to latest news we had the posting couple hours or a couple days ago or no yesterday today yeah the days are blending together it was today today he was officially posted what if all this soda Buzz brings the Mets into play I don’t know I still feel like it’ll be padr or Dodgers um and in the end my prediction is the Dodgers and I’m going to hold with that prediction uh I don’t have enough to to sort of pivot off of that uh you know I I I had held on to my SoDo to the Yankees until a couple days ago and you know those of you that watch the an updated Power Rankings I I move the I moved the Mets to the top we redid the the sto Power Rankings when all that Red Sox nonsense was exploding and I put the Mets at number one changing my prediction um I will not change my predictions on a whim I I’m going to stick with it and ride with it and if I’m wrong I’m wrong the Sasaki thing it just I still think it’ll be Dodgers it could be the Padres I would not rule him out if I were to do a Greg amsinger pie chart uh I would probably have the Dodgers at 80% the Padres at 19% and the Mets at 1% how about that you got to and and and the whole thought process sure he’s got relationships and it looks up to you darish and all of that but you want to reach the ultimate goal and the ultimate goal is to be the champ And when everybody is bidding for you and has the same ceiling you basically get to choak you get yes everybody can Zachary you get to choose where you want to go and your decision will be made on winning and and I got I see you Ed I will be back I will get I will get to you uh I will get to your super chat I promise your decision will be made on winning but it’s also going to be made on the culture of the clubhouse uh facilities development um every everything is going to you know everything is going to go into the decision and the Dodgers are about as good if not the best run organization in baseball again there are many of you that want to raise your hand and say no my I what about my team again I I won’t give the Dodgers the crown we we we’ll just call the Dodgers one of the best run organizations in baseball and on top of it they are with Otani and Yamamoto and and and Freeman and Muki and and Will Smith and we could continue to go on they are and now Blake Snell and Michael conforto they are at the just at the top and you have a chance to go to the best not just the best when it comes to World Series odds but one of the best when it comes to everything else why wouldn’t you do that when the Padres could be looking at some turmoil the Padres let’s call it what it is when you when you go give Roi Sasaki essentially like if so if you start the year with Roki you’re going to be starting the clock six years boom and after that free agency because he’s going to be treated like an international free agent so what’s that six years look like in San Diego as Manny’s getting older and Bogie’s getting older and the Fernando tati contract now looks pretty good the Fernando tatis contract is now tradable what are the Padre’s going to look like in three years with Peter seidler gone and some question marks about this team’s Financial aggressiveness and and ability to even aggressive because of the deals that have been signed there’s some question marks about the future of the Padres so for that reason again if it becomes a Padre’s or Dodgers thing and you’re thinking about today through the next six years it kind of feels like it’s the Dodgers all right oh Sean’s back what’s up man I know Sean we don’t have many haters there are some Shawn is leading the charge sea might not be here anymore he might have hopped in dropped a hate and hopped out Sean has missed every positive thing I’ve said about the Detroit Tigers he heares me say all of the negative things about the Detroit Tigers I have never claimed that I have any connections to anybody I I I I know Bob Nightingale Bob Nightingale has been on the podcast a couple times but I do not lean on Bob Nightingale for things I have opportunities to connect with people and I am at a point now where I do I’m going on my gut guys I’m going on my gut I’m going on my instincts sometimes I’m right sometimes I’m wrong that’s where I’m at I’m not trying to be out here thinking that I’m some Insider I’m a fan I’m nobody I’m nobody from nowhere Sean is leading the charge though uh somebody had a super chat I missed uh with the tra Ed sorry it took me so long to get to your chat I think if the rays are going to trade a starter I think mclanahan is one of the Untouchables I could see Springs um I I can’t I can’t see mlan hand Maybe rasmon I think outside of mclanahan everyone’s probably available did Shawn leave Shawn left I tried Shawn I tried yes tier one hater for sure I tried again he’s missed he he’s missed every positive thing I’ve said about the Detroit Tigers um I guess he’s he’s missed every time that I have made it clear that I’m I’m I’m not an Insider I don’t know what are we going to do can’t make everybody happy that’s something that I I understand I know I’m pissing a lot of blue jays fans off I’m probably right now Tonto being favorites for burns is there any smoke to that fire Phil I don’t know let me see what do we what’s is this new let’s look just as I started to say I’m pissing off all these blue jay fans Phil comes in with the Super Chat Phil thank you for the $5 donation uh we’ll talk about Corbin Burns here I again I think I’m pissing more blue jay fans off right now because I’m frustrated at with the Jordan Romano thing and there is a very strong contingency of Jay’s fans that are good with it and I think it’s just another bad decision in a long line of Bad Decisions by this front office especially when it’s Philly if Jordan Romano signed with the Rockies I could understand but it’s the Phillies a team that makes good Personnel decisions good talent acquisition decisions that’s where he went there will be a physical that he has to pass and when he passes that physical because remember it was in impingement it was not structural damage it was not Tommy John surgery and I know kirby8 had the same thing but they’re two different people Kirby Gates is older than Jordan Romano anyway let’s look at what we got from Corbin Burns a day ago Boston Globe this is where I look guys look I’m coming around on MLB Scoops but you’re still not going to see MLB Scoops popping up as like a a a sourced piece of material Boston Globe has met with Corbin Burns Max freed we got that where’s I so I had heard the Blue Jays linked Corbin Burns but I had not heard them the favorites Phil I’m going keep I’m keep looking at looking for it though let’s see four days ago right linked I would call that linked meeting with him so there I mean it’s I think that’s about as far as it goes and a meeting I’m I I worry about the blue jay’s ability to sign free agents at the Corbin Burns level I think Corbin Burns wants to go somewhere where his winning odds are safe I don’t think he wants to risk it he wants to get paid but there’s enough teams that are in World Series mode that want him for him to choose them the Toronto Blue Jays are going to kind of be in Wild Card mode next year and after that it’s question marks is that where you want to sign maybe if the money’s greater and if you can get an opt out after a year two or three that’s where you’ll go but if you’re the Blue Jays will you do that deal will you give Corbin Burns a seven-year deal $225 million with an opt out after year two will you give him that deal Stephen yeah I think he wants wants to be in a spot to pitch for tit TI and he’s not going to have that opportunity with Toronto the odds of him pitching for that in Boston is greater in Baltimore is great it’s literally greater in half the league I’m sorry if we were to do a Power Rankings on the Toronto Blue Jays and Championship odds right now the Blue Jays would be in the back half of that power ranking and if you’re in the back half of that ranking are you going going to be able to make the splash that Jeff passon said that you’ll make reports over the weekend suggest the Orioles weren’t keen on giving up a comp pick in order to sign a rejected qualifying offer starter that is Max fre sha manah and Nick pavetta so we can rule them out but there are good options if the Baltimore Orioles don’t want to give up a qualifying offer which I heard this too again guys there’s the one thing that has come out of this winter meetings is a Avalanche of rumors and news outside of signings it’s been Jordan romano and Mike talkman today lionhardt I’m calm compared to how you feel yeah man I’m I I know I I I could get animated I’m holding it in I’m holding it in because my team I feel like my team’s about to fall apart and it didn’t have to be this way that’s the worst part about it right when your team goes to [ __ ] but if you can see it coming because you’re getting pinched by I don’t know luxury taxes and age and I I I don’t know like if if that’s the way it goes well so be it all good things come to an end but it didn’t have to be this way anyway the Orioles if you’re looking for other options outside of the qualifying offer group I really think Orioles fans should open up to the idea of Jack flarity again I know that keeps getting BR brought up and then immediately shot down but he’s a different guy he is most certainly a different guy um we’ve seen it before uh but but this just seems like it would be a long shot there’s no qualifying offer compensation attached to Jack flare there also isn’t one attached to Justin Verlander there isn’t one attached to Walker buer or Nate avaldi right there is not one attached to Nate avaldi why am I blanking on that I don’t believe there is as far as the trade market goes lots of opportunity there Jesus Lardo all of the options are available to the Baltimore Orioles trading for framber Valdez trading for Luis Castillo trading for Jesus lazardo trading for gett crochet they could go get any of them done if they’re out on freed manah pavetta so be it go bring Corbin Burns back now if Corbin Burns leaves they get a pick maybe they need Corbin Burns to leave before they go get in on the max freed situation but the Orioles will have options and I hate to say it Orioles fans I wonder if they’re going to try to be Thrifty meaning it’s a oneye deal or or or a onee with a pillow uh a two-year deal Max I don’t want you to come out of this off seon big fan don’t let sea get to you Flex bicep burrito Moon viewing ceremony Moon viewing ceremony Moon viewing ceremony European post office burrito Flex by said Craig’s amazing guys because if you haven’t picked up on this yet it’s always Tim big fan always it’s Jim he’s been calling me Tim and it’s always Tim big fan and then it is the Emojis it’s amaz it’s it’s really when it comes to uh Super Chat um entertainment Craig is always at the top of the list thank you Craig I appreciate that I just appreciate Shawn coming back Sean coming back hopping in dropping a comment it’s all good because that that can help the algorithm interacting with the stream helps the algorithm so he’s helping he doesn’t know it but he is helping he’s helping the effort what else is on the ultimate aggregator and this is another well no I’m not I’m not I am not going to say anything more about Jordan Romano in the Blue Jays I’m sure if you covered this yet but I need my Yankees to Pivot hard I’m still heartbroken from yesterday and need to be convinced for next season Kyle I guarantee you the Yankees are going to make multiple splashes this off season I don’t know if prioritizing pitching and having all these conversations with Max freed and and Corbin Burns is the thing to do right now I would be really focused on bats um and if pitching Falls to you okay great but this Yankees team if they enter 2025 with the rotation they have right now they’ll be okay with garri Cole and Carlos rordon and Luis heel two3 you’ve got Schmidt at four you’ve got either Nester Cortez or Marcus strowman at five or will Warren at five and look let’s say you get to a point where okay we need to add another piece go add another go trade for somebody in July uh so I feel like to prioritize starting pitching they’re they’re supposed to it’s them in the Mets aggressive suitors according to Ken Rosenthal for Garrett crochet okay well throw Luis Robert in then I really think Luis Robert I posed a question on the community uh yesterday what player has most Major League Baseball fandom given up on but you still believe in and I still believe in Luis Robert you give him a good situation A positive Clubhouse a winning team I think things changed for Luis Robert now he does have to stay healthy but the but the parachute is that you can be done with Luis Robert after one year if he deals with injury after injury and it’s a wasted season okay just don’t pick up the options and you move on um I would like to I really feel like the Yankees need to focus on bats Alonzo or Walker for first base I don’t I think bregman is impossible so let’s not even talk about that um if you need somebody because again I think defense has to be a priority why not bring back look if you can get Christian Walker or Pete Alonzo for first why not the Anthony V treatment Kyle thank you for the donation bring back we’re going to stay on the Yankee talk here why not bring back um Gio or shell for third and if you don’t want to do that Hassan Kim would be a great defensive upgrade now Hassan Kim is probably best in the middle infield so you still need a third baseman so why not go and get why not go and get Hassan Kim uh GI orella and Christian Walker holy [ __ ] that infield would be great H you got to figure out Jazz you gotta figure out vulpi I get it I know but if you’re looking to erase any of the stain from the fifth inning of the World Series that infield would be amazing Christian Walker maybe the best defensive first base been in baseball Gio orell that’s his calling card is defense hasson Kim is tremendous defensively and oh by the way has a great plate approach his plate approach metrics that’s your whiff rate walk rate Chase rate K rate all that is top- notot let’s do that I don’t know maybe trade Jazz screw it you’re the Yankees do whatever the hell you want um so I think you invol pation put Jazz out in center field remember Jazz was playing center field before so New York Yankees so if you do what I just said Christian Walker Hong Kim and uh and Gio orella your infield problems are solved Jazz Chisum goes back to center field where he was playing before you traded for him Aaron judge goes to right as a Royals fan I understand I remember when the past owner was the Reon Bel ended up traded even though beltron went to David glass wanting to have a team-friendly deal and glass dismissed him and Dominguez is in left stand your DH I have solved your problems those three pieces and if you want to go get crazy and get nuts for starting pitcher do that but there’s your three pieces I think that that would be pretty good I think it’ be pretty damn good defensively you would be improving yeah sign me up for that um that would be easy to pull off that would be damn easy to pull off if you’re the New York Yankees uh let’s see get Eris thank you as a Royals fan you understand past owner was the reason beltron ended up traded even though beltron went to David glass wanting to have a Team friendly deal and glass dismissed him front offices will screw [ __ ] up you hope that you have a good front office I can remember it hurt I go back to there was a time where I was prioritizing football over baseball and it coincided with a really dark time with the Toronto Blue Jays and I was fully focused on my 9o5 um which is much more than the 9 to-5 but let’s we don’t need to compare who any anyway let me say Focus I was more focused on football and this was is going back to maybe what year is it maybe 15 years ago and the Buffalo Bills is where I’m trying to get to the Buffalo Bills had an ass hat of a GM and it took years for that dumbass to finally be fired but the team was set back so far that they went through a stretch where JP lman and Kyle Orton and Kelly hul and just a [ __ ] show and it the general manager just tanked the team and that’s what hurts all of the situations you get a kid city situation like that right now I feel like my my the two guys running the Blue Jays shyro and Atkins are killing the team I feel like I am going through that Buffalo Bills experience that I went through what was it I think it was like 10 or 15 years ago feel like we going through that all over again it’s JP lman under Center all over again it’s it’s Drew bledo all over again yeah that’ll be great I just uh so that’s the pro you get the general managers you hope to God that they make a good decision the problem is you got to give them a long Runway right you got to see what they got you got to see if they can turn it around you got to see how they act in different evolutions of the team I think shapy and Atkins did a fine job early on now a lot of the farm system a lot of the guys that hit that was Alex anthopoulos stuff Alex anthopoulos was a I’m pretty sure Alex anthopoulos the Vladimir Guerrero Jr was an Alex anthopoulos decision it’s almost like the end of that last good ERA for the Blue Jays could be walking out the door do we have a Rosenthal thing what do we got what do we got Jose Kade don’t complain if you don’t have to deal with Moreno I know it could be worse it could be worse now he’s the owner but yes what’s worse a a a a bad owner or a bad uh front office general manager president of baseball operation I the Orioles had a terrible owner but a brilliant man in Mike Elias running the show and now finally there’s a new owner so the I guess the the bad GM like what if Ry Marino actually brought in a good had a good front office situation good general manager uh vlat was AA moon or thank you for checking me on that blatty was Alex anthopoulos bashet was the I believe the first year of Atkins and shapy was Bo bashet in the draft which was good that was a good move again I think early on it was it worked out but then you miss on some draft picks you deal with some injuries that you don’t foresee uh with the with some of those draft picks you can’t you can’t playing for that stuff um obviously The Scouting Department isn’t up to Snuff because even if you have injuries you should have more guys they really didn’t have more guys and isn’t it funny that that was like the thing that got Alex anthopoulos run out of town was the fact that he blew up the farm system to go and trade for David Price and Troy ttz like that’s what essentially got him run out of town shapy came in ran him up and down the wall and it was over and then he goes to he had where did he go in between Toronto and he went somewhere in between Toronto and was it La I can’t remember am I thinking of JP rardy I’m getting my general man my blue J general manager is confused uh but he ends up in Atlanta and look what’s happened he’s one of the best he’s one of the best general managers baseball and the Toronto Blue Jays the ownership that is in place now chose shyro over Alex anthopoulos Shapiro Shapiro Shapiro I’ve heard it both ways I just hope that there is a day uh gypz gyps cat I just hope there’s a day where I don’t have to say his name at all ever again Moon and Ori I am unfortunately one of the guys giving varo some hate and I’m sorry I love what he does defensively but this team has now won what backto back team gold gloves it’s working out great so far I yes you have to be you have to be buttoned up defensively but you got to be able to hit and score runs and d v show one of his best attributes is is is is bunting great he’s look I don’t I have not seen Dalton V show take the steps and evolve into the hitter that I was told he would become uh knu yes yes I’m a blue jays fan I am a Jay’s fan uh what do we got hold on I do see something from Ken right now I’m a Jay’s fan and my hope is that you guys can go multiple streams multiple weeks multiple months without even realizing who my favorite team is that’s kind of one of my goals but I’m bitching tonight so it’s kind of obvious what’s Ken say what we’re hearing about trade interest with Devon Williams and other notes hey it’s a Ken Rosenthal notes piece Don’t Mind If I Do Is there a way to speed read this damn it I don’t want to bore you guys with my reading will I will try to like speedread and hit the the important stuff uh at least 10 teams have contacted the Brewers there was before the winter meetings a report that the Brewers were not going to deal him and if they do it would be in season but if you have 10 teams contacting you that’s how a bidding war gets started that’s how you get the Tanner Scott return I always feel like and we talked about this the Milwaukee Brewers are basically waiting for the San Diego Padres to enter the room because as soon as San Diego enters the room then the bidding can begin I don’t know if San Diego would be one of these 10 teams yes Stephen I know I love the shirt though I’m a big history of baseball buff uh Cal Ripken is I mean he’s the Iron Man Eddie Murray dude legendary and you know Eddie Murray that that checks the Dodgers box that checks the Mets box that checks the Cleveland box I mean we we could check a lot of boxes with Eddie um yeah I I just love the shirt I have a bills one too I have actually two Orioles and one bills uh I have the NFL Jam for bills it’s Kelly and Reed I have MLB Jam uh the other one for the Orioles it’s a bright orange so I don’t usually wear it on stream and that is gunar and adley I just haven’t seen them around I would love for other teams to have these I just haven’t seen them I want there to be a blue jays one guess the problem with the Blue Jays is who would you do I would love like a Bautista and Edwin would you do a holiday and Bautista they they didn’t really play no I don’t think you do that you got to line them up right they have to be together you if if there wasn’t the Roberto Alamar disgrace you would have Carter and Alamar that would be pretty good you could do mcgriffin Fernandez uh that would be pretty sweet anyway let’s get back to this so 10 teams in on Deon Williams that’s how you create a bidding war that’s how you increase the ODS of Devin Williams getting dealt possibility exists that the Brewers end up dealing Williams this week but a trade at some point later in the winter is perhaps more likely with all of the free agent arms still on the market if you don’t have to deal the prospects for Devon Williams why would you but if we get to January and all those top names are off the board and you still don’t have your guy and three or four four teams are in that boat with you then maybe if the the the trade talk fires back up waiting would allow them to see how the market shakes out after the you guys probably thought I was reading that no I’m now getting ahe to that waiting what allow them to see how the market shakes out according the sources the Dodgers the Yankees are among teams expressing interest in Williams we proposed a Devin Williams blockbuster trade couple weeks ago and the Dodgers can do it without really impacting the top of that farm system it just depends on what do they want back are they hellbent on getting top of the farm system pieces back or are they just looking to match up the value because if they’re looking to match up the value they could get four pieces from the Dodgers oh my God Toto Malo AA yeah oh my God John I do not understand what you just said but I appreciate appreciate the Super Chat somebody’s got a TR like that for me I John you know I don’t speak Spanish what’s that from God what why is that that’s that’s that’s that’s uh anchor B right right John you know I don’t speak Spanish um so Dodgers and Yankees among teams to express interest will Williams this Williams that uh even mid-market teams like the Royals and tigers could be in play perhaps the Angels yeah the Angels aren’t done the Angels definitely aren’t done they they can’t be done there’s another Ace that they need to go try to find their way to certainly the bullpen needs some pieces um let’s see Jose glacius oh is that from the Jose glacia what did he sign did did a glacius sign hold on GH I I have to take a look at that in a minute um or is it hold on okay um let’s back let’s back let’s get back to this Brewers are in need of starting pitching help yeah but the Brewers could get the Brewers could go out and sign pitchers and not have to trade Williams there are some guys that are sort of back of the rotation pieces because you’re going to get Brandon Woodruff back you’re going to have perala there were a couple Meyers really stepped up to 400 mil plus booket Swingman Lou I think that is the floor for Vladimir Guerrero Jr that is the floor all right let’s keep moving here so that’s that’s a Deon Williams that is a takeaway from this Devon Williams piece is that 10 teams have contacted the Milwaukee Brewers according to sources the Dodgers and the Yankees are among the teams can also floats out the Royals the Tigers and Angels could be in play and then the Brewers are in need of starting pitching help which I kind of disagree with I mean they could they could look for uh like an ace but I guess here’s the thing Woodruff woodruff’s gone after this year right or or did they give Woodruff another year with an option they need starting pitching help for down the road so if they can get a starting pitcher a young starting pitcher with multiple years of control then check that works the Orioles filled their need for a right-handed hitting outfielder by signing O’Neal and Gary Sanchez neither move was especially impactful Tyler O’Neal is pissed saying a Tyler O’Neal move is not specifically or especially impactful have you seen the size of this man’s biceps O’Neal replaces sandir the team search for front of the rotation starter remains a mystery Orioles are whoa o ooh the Orioles are not a among the teams at the Forefront of the Garrett crochet sweep sakes holy [ __ ] not said yeah you know what I’m not surprised though I’m not surprised because this gets back to this gets back to them and and the prospects we talked about earlier that would probably be desired in trade mayo and biso the Orioles have not seen him at the major league level yet so they’re probably reluctant to add them into a conversation and you’re going to have to less eager uh less than eager to give up a draft pick for the qualifying offer starters that’s freed manah and pavetta they seem likely to get outbid for burns of all these one possibilities so this is speculation span my entire life and I’ve never felt this unsure of the plans for this franchise Jim I’m depressed upside down face Trevor you’re in a better position Than Blue Jays fans are you’ve as long as you’ve got Julio Rodriguez locked into that contract the Mariners are going to put their best foot forward to win and that’s how it’s going to be and on top of it you have an incredible rotation a World Series caliber rotation resides in Seattle even if you trade Luis Castillo you still have that I’m a big woo a big Miller guy so I feel like you’re in a good spot you get a Randy Ros ARA bounceback you make some Savvy moves for that infield it’s really the key what do you do with your infield the Toronto Blue Jays have so much more and a lot of other losing Burns not bringing him back as a l so um Trevor hang in there I think you have uh more reason for optimism than most look at your rotation Julio Rodriguez I think they’re going to get him squared away and even if they even if he doesn’t reach the uh the expectation that was set on him the money is there the commitment is there which means the commitment to winning while that contract is in place is there hang in there Trevor Swingman L them losing Burns not bringing it back is an l oh definitely it is definitely an L which starter will it be this is a speculation point of the article Nathan naldi is a possibility Jack flare is another a trade could be a third Avenue for improvement Orioles remain in strong position in the AL East particularly with the Yankees losing stto um that’s all we need to talk about from this so avaldi would be a nice addition flarity I think the fan base would question it but you could get I think you could pull that off I do think you could pull it off if you’re the Orioles that fan base would be accepting they would look they would remember oh this guy was just pitching in the World Series and he did well so I think you would I think you could get away with it the trade the question is who are you trading for are you trading for lazardo you’re gonna have to give up significant prospects that have never played at the major league level and the Orioles don’t seem to want to do that you would have to if you crochet you’d have to do the same thing and maybe add even more into the package the do you want to run back the Corbin Burns Playbook and trade for somebody like framber Valdez who’s going to be a free agent at the end of the year you can’t keep dealing prospects for oneyear pitchers at some point you you got to go out and trade the prospects for a multi-year option and that’s what crochet would be um if you can somehow swing a deal with Seattle and get Miller or woo then that would be a a longterm proposition ofal these short term probably two years with the third year would be the third year maybe be an option flarity is probably looking at three years with a fourth year as an option and it’s going to be significant dollars that’s the thing about FL it’s going to be significant the Orioles are in a weird spot again when it comes to pitching the Rangers likely cannot spend big until they gain Clarity on their future local media Revenue but that isn’t stopping them from at least getting in the mix for some of the better free agent starting pitchers good it’s what I’ve been saying for weeks now that needs to be the primary focus and you there’s still stay under the luxury tax that is a goal stay under the luxury tax go out there you can you can you can get Shawn manah and still be under the luxury tax it gets you get starting to creep up there but you can get manah now you still have to rebuild the bullpen this is where we start to get into the idea of a Nathaniel low or heaven forbid a do Garcia trade that’s the problem with that I don’t know if they would want to do that but if you go out and make a splash for a top of the rotation arm you may be forced into you may be forced into that into trading one of those two uh resigning of Aldi means Remains the Rangers top priority according to but the team is also in contact with freed and others keeping its options open freed would be a nice get I talked about freed as an option a sort of a throwaway comment a week or two ago that if Max free doesn’t go all the way west what if he gets what if he what what if he picks a destination on the journey West Texas being one of them A’s after signing srino still want to add another starter according to sources but if they sign another free agent likely be a lesser some tricks up his sleeve what would be a crazy AJ preier prediction besides Roki do you trade Louisa rise a lot of talk about that if you can’t get a contract done with him Lisa rise is do a lot of money do you try to trade Louisa rise what about this oneyear deals something I need something you need could Houston and San Diego pull a trade together Houston looking for you know first baseman Luis arise come on down Luis arise be your first baseman in Houston FR Valdez goes out and solidifies the rotation in San Diego now other pieces would need to be involved but that sounds kind of AJ PR like cuz the rotation for San Diego is not going to cut it so that’s where if they have if he has a trick up his sleeve it’s in the rotation with no Musgrove and cease clearly an up and down guy you’re going to get months where Dylan CE is pitching like an Ace and then you’re going to get months where Dylan CE is pitching like a number three he’s not said it and forget it a number one Michael King yeah I don’t know if he’s that yet either and you darish is only getting older that’s the core of your rotation next year doesn’t cut it especially when you’re trying to compete with the Dodgers so if he has anything any tricks up his sleeve it has to be in the rotation and when I’m trying to think about pieces that he has that he could dangle and deal Luis arise comes to mind you’re not going to deal any of the big contracts you’re not going to find a taker for Jake konorth the value isn’t High Enough you can’t you’re not going to definitely not going to trade Nando um yeah I feel like that’s probably the play uh from a free agent standpoint if he’s going to get creative it’s going to be for somebody that’s not going to really excite the fan base it’ll be somebody like Lorenzen or Heeney somebody like that and again that’s not going to fire up the fan base and that’s not that’s not going to really uh raise the the ceiling so the Angels want to spend more money which we knew that Jeff Pon told us that uh the angels are trying to get their payroll up uh trying to get to $100 million in payroll so they’re looking to that someone’s going to get overpaid if you are looking at that middle tier Market get your guys now man because the A’s are probably going to overpay Lance L Kyle Gibson or Andrew Haney if that’s what it ends up being and it is he’s not saying it’s going to be one of those three he is saying that it is it could be one of those three they’re probably going to get overpaid A’s need to add significant payroll or risk a grievance from the mlbpa it remains to be seen however if they will approach the $ 130 to $150 million range they projected for their ramp up yeah I feel like they probably get to about a 100 but it’s going to require overpaying some guys uh laptop guy Louis arise is not a good uh metrics player that’s why more would have to be involved and and more from San Diego going to Houston San Diego would have to include a prospect to get that deal done all right third base is another area of need for the A’s Alec bone Brett batty among players at that position available in trade we’ve been talking about Brett batty being trade bait for months now Marlins finally finally and marosi said it earlier but finally we have some Jesus lazardo trade talk it took way too long Marlins open to trading Jesus Lardo John marosi mentioned at Monday that Lardo is drawing interest Lardo 27 projected to earn 6 million in arbitration should make him the second highest paid Mar behind Sandy alantra who’s 16 or on his way to 16 is Sandy making 16 this year I think he is like alcra who’s recovering from TJ lardo’s trade value might be higher at the deadline or in spring training if lazardo goes out there in February and March and is looking lights out I could see similar to how uh Dylan CE was traded late um this would be later than that but I could see Lardo getting traded before the season starts after he has shown in spring training that he’s back and he’s he’s thrown gas so don’t know if the losardo trade gets done during the winter meetings don’t know if theard trade gets done in December at all that may be a late later in the off season or as we are starting spring training next uh in 2025 what would it take to get crochet in a Padre’s uniform could areas be a three-way trade would that make Padre’s a 88 win team next year Matthew thank you for the donation Let’s uh let’s do something we don’t usually do this I don’t know if it’s going to work let’s try and that’s it for the Ken Rosenthal piece I don’t know if this is going to work let’s try to remove any bias that I may have knowingly or unknowingly we will bring in a third party to try to find the trade um am I signed in here I might not be signed if I’m not signed in I don’t know uh oh I am signed in or at least it’s saved crochet value is high which I think makes it tough all right let me move something out of the way there we go um makes it tough so we have the padr we have the white socks because remember what the white socks want is players that do not have the arbitration clock underway you’ve got to have pieces you have to have prospects so really the question is do the do the Padres have $53 million in value in Prospect could ask for a loan from zworld May you’re hey maybe GNA have to get going to have to get some uh some some corporate sponsorships to just go knocking on some doors to get some money so this is I knew would be trouble because of what we are looking at here let’s think about pieces for a deal we cannot include Louisa rise and the problem is he’s a free agent he’s got one more year of arbitration he’s a free agent White Sox don’t want anything to do with that so let’s go to the top prospect board here why does it do that can we please just get right to the no I don’t want the article I do not want the article with the actual why and why is it going to the 2023 I just come on I know there’s other places we could go we’ll go here first so position players is what we’ve heard that the white socks want position players back so DeVry Salis one of those two let’s start there let’s go with Dev we have a ton of value there 38.1 he has to be in the deal then you have cavis tears he has to be in the deal let’s see where that takes us we are now at 40 that’s one hell of a drop off and that’s part of the problem is the Padre’s farm system as you have now seen firsthand is very topheavy we’ll throw Cade fountain in and see what that does I’m not optimistic that there’s going to be much value here no we are crawling now but what if you can what if you can get DeVry tears Fountain three position players really D is the gem and to get the value where it needs to be we climb back up the farm system ranking here and we say look I know you want position players but really for us to give you the best offer we have to include pitching we add cash Mayfield in that doesn’t do it this is the hard part this is the this is the difficult element here is the Padre’s farm system now maybe the Padre’s have we have not checked this did the Padre’s have a draft pick that they can trade does not look like and maybe maybe will that become once we have done cuz you can trade your comp ation picks right um if the Padres have anything that they can deal in that perspective because the Orioles in their trade for Corbin Burns included the Guardians move CL appreciate everything you do my man thumbs up so I feel like unfortunately you’re not going to be able to do that it’s going to be difficult if this is the best offer on the board the problem is I think teams will probably be able to beat it but this is about as close as we can get for a a Padres and white socks trade again if you can’t see it let me see crochet at 53.4 million for leodas DeVry the number two Prospect uh C te kale Fountain two more position players in the top 10 and cash Mayfield cash Mayfield is their number three prospect that is the best we can do the value still comes up short we had a Super Chat come in that we need to give attention to that trade is off the rails Z and I know they all are every trade proposal outside of the trades that actually get executed are always off the rails so Cam’s Corner holy sh it’s after midnight when did that happen I’m just realizing it’s after midnight uh let’s see here cams Corner any chance the Guardians move class appreciate everything you do no um cam thank you for the donation I do appreciate that I don’t see a world in which they move class I can’t see it right I know it’s not my fault the whole thing it doesn’t it really it’s it’s the reason why San Diego and lining up with G crochet that’s not the trade you want to know what the trade is you really want to know what the trade is the problem is the money thing again Seattle no I was going to go that way I was going to say uh Luis Castillo with Seattle is the trade but the $24 million for the next three years might be something that San Diego has absolutely no interest in I can’t believe it is after midnight I I literally expected to look over to the corner and see the clock and have it say 11:13 oh the Mets Harrison you could do a Mets trade no problem I think we’ve done that I feel like we’ve done that in one of our um trade proposal fake trade Blockbuster videos we’ve done that you can do that very easily instead of the Padres the Mets now again it’s just a matter of what are you what are you willing to give up but you can easily get a deal done I mean you’re going to be including you got Jesus bayz you’re you got to include jet Williams um you can do it though we don’t need to run through I mean you that’s that’s what you’d have to do though you can get there I’m I’m realizing it’s after midnight guys I’m let’s see what we got hold on Rangers reportedly schedule a meeting with the FDI reps tonight as they try to keep him in Arlington go get him Texas go get him all right um it’s for the fourth time now it’s after midnight uh Jim’s got to go because Jim’s got to get up early and get the kids off to school so I’m going to go disappear is there any super chats that I have not gotten uh to cam again thank you for the donation I don’t see the uh I don’t see the class a thing we gotten through okay all of that all right guys that is going to do it for tonight make sure you are back tomorrow night and you have the notifications turned on because if anything crazy happens throughout the day tomorrow I’m standing by I’m going to get up tomorrow I’m going to record a video I’ll have something midday talking about the Tristan casus trade rumors I will have that out early and I will be standing by for any live streams that are necessary based on any MLB ground shaking trades signings or news so again make sure you stay close guys all right that is going to do it for me make sure to hit that like on the way out everybody I appreciate those of you coming in hanging out spending a ton of time here it does amazing things to help the algorithm to push it out to other people who are looking for baseball content so thank you for helping make this engine go you guys are the driving force thank you I mean that truly do um have a good night enjoy the rest of your evening sorry we didn’t have anything big tonight we didn’t we just had a bunch of rumors to talk about we had some news some rumors rumors mask as news news mask as rumors and uh and and we’ll see what happens tomorrow hopefully something big guys thank you see you all tomorrow I hope um maybe sooner than tomorrow night again big news let’s get something going winter meetings need to get picked up this is this is going too slow the deals aren’t moving we need we need the deals to flow this can’t be the Jordan Romano Mike talkman Juan stto winter meetings we we need more we need more everybody have a good evening thank you again for coming in ball cap Nation I salute you subscribe if you have not yet hit that like on the way out and remember in the game and in life if it’s low let it go and if it’s High Let It Fly by I’ll see you tomorrow


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