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for e e H he watches [Applause] the keep inspiring the Next Generation shout out to the over I’m stealing that I’ve stolen that one Sten it overing welcome welcome welcome welcome welcome everybody to the overthinking football show my name is Jor MC I your host and this is the place where we love football South African football African football and every now and then we go over to Europe guys the show is on every Monday to Thursday at 700 p.m. unless Chiefs Pirates Sundowns B if those teams are playing we are here watching them live so tomorrow we’re going to have a double header 6:00 um I believe it’s Sundowns then Pats at 8 if I’m not mistaken or at 9:00 but we’re going to watch both of those games um tomorrow so please join me here as we’re going to take we’re going to analyze those games and go through it guys um there is a WhatsApp group a very active WhatsApp group that has been active all weekend um ever since what happened on Saturday uh but it’s a really great place for for you to learn about man for us to speak to each other to teach each other things to B to laugh hey videos videos gifts voice notes it’s a very great place so if you want to join the WhatsApp group head on over to YouTube click on subscribe click on join and you’ll gain access guys tonight I’m trying to get to 60,000 likes um and we’re going to go from there so obviously the big talk of today has to be what happened over the weekend this is a review of the match that happened between M sounds and IMA KC which was the final of the caring Black Label knockout cup um so I’ve got some stats for you before we get into it remember this is a very interactive show I want to hear from you guys we’re going to have our normal panels to join the panel you have to be following me and join me while I’m live on Tik Tok click on the button at the bottom of your screen that says multi guest I let you in you tell me what you’re thinking and we have a conversation about whatever it is that we are talking about um today so that is how it’s going to work but let me start off with the stats let me let me start off with stats uh okay um so Mesi had only three attempts with two On Target Mar Sundowns had 20 attempts with six on target 80% of The Possession went to IM sown they had 63 passes versus M’s 158 and they completed 91% of those passes whereas the Mesi only completed 51% of their passes out but I I really go into the deeper stats but this is where we need to go into the deeper stats big chances M Sundowns according to the stats only created one big chance um and they missed one big chance whereas imaki only created two big chances and didn’t miss any big chances when you look at the keeper performances and the defensive performance M sown had no keeper saves and then there were 12 clearances that were made by SS whereas imaki CH possed five shots and then of course had 22 clearances so that gives you a picture of how this game was it was a game where imaki um held on and took a lot of damage before they were able to um score their goals IM sown pushed with all their might but couldn’t get past that man who CH what had happened for me is that Messi needs some credit because they pushed that team wide they made sure that Sundowns had to play from wider areas alenda was wide riberto was wide um and it sort of crowded raina’s space the goal came from a similar space from where M sounds usually scores their goals um where Ribero is in the 10 he’s got two options who are running in between the center back and the left Center the Center back and the left or right back and using that space that is where the goal came from but they couldn’t do that for most of the game relying more on taking shots from far away so um we’re going to jump straight into um we’re going to jump straight into the panels so please feel free to request remember guys everybody’s going to get 5 minutes um to speak please respect your fellow P panelists what I want to do is I want to um ask you a question or two you guys tell me what you’re thinking about the game and then uh we we move on We Carry On Moving We Carry On Moving let me get let me get everybody in and we can go from there guys scream I want to get to 60,000 likes forun I tap the screen it is free and then of course man something you’re not giving us but it’s fine let me go to Kum Kum welcome to the show how are you tell me about this game I’ve been on holiday I’ve been on holiday I’m back 27 I need to make sure always lose terms of Comin able to penetrate low block effectively compared to our previous Seasons previous under Pirates it’s not really a better pill to swallo M we deserve to lose considering the chances that we should have actually putting through was clinical got the legal chances they had they made sure that’s howal but this in the comments are not those of overthinking football I just wanted to say that the waying why always sometimes because he play open so yeah as was saying um Hugo Bruce man he was being spiteful and I didn’t notice this until was being because of ter want to ask you for the last minute here um how do you fix problem is going on those last those last 20 minutes for SS how do you fix it and did you fix the right problem the style of play Mar still last minute we do everything almost problem who are also going to celebrate their 10 year anniversary and some just did in the P okay let me bring it welcome to the show how are you evening OT how are you I’m rested I’m rested 27 is coming you’ll see me come back I I I believe I believe you laugh he laugh at sundown well enough on on Saturday and for the first time on this show I see Kumo being so humble for the first time so thanks to myi Kumo is very humble we are not getting anything about Sundowns being the best team this and that and I like it like that maazi did so well but OT on on a serious note let’s give magazi flowers they played from the first game of the tournament they had a strategy they beat my team orando pyate and they went on and then you know if a team can beat a bay and T Galaxy those team that they can defend then you you know that this team is really they really deserve to win it especially winning it against Sundowns in a final coming from behind OT it shows that they they they had a strategy and the strategy with with mzi as you say they don’t mind defending they don’t mind defending because oh it has shown Us in football having a good goalkeeper is very crucial in football because how can you say now that the player of the tournament is likely to be a goalkeeper for my G for the whole tournament it’s been man of the match in all the games so we need to give magazi credit and their players they really did well yes we B and laugh at Sundowns for losing the cup but we need to give credit to Clinton lson and his players and I just hope it’s not a bad Omen for them getting relegated and stuff because normally teams when they go up they beat the big teams they normally go down yeah so I’m I’m I’m very much worried I just hope I just hope they can try to keep the consistency going forward and then but congratulations to them OT and Sundown it’s it’s it’s another trophy gone it’s another trophy gone they were saying people are winning plastic and and wood cups but they can’t win the real Cups they can’t win the real Cups I don’t know what’s happening with them it’s been long even since even even during the time of piz they were not winning CBS they are only winning the the league so maybe that is the speciality OT because CBS need people who wants to play today and win today that’s the that’s the reality of a cup can you tell me ask play football myself yeah no no no I wanted to ask you uh how how important now does it show that you know in the PSL any game you can you can win any game but you have to have a plan and stick to it um as Messi showed maybe other teams that are guys you can’t roll you can’t come to the match already having lost versus Sundowns or Pirates maybe you can come out with something or is it different in the league no it’s it’s a story of David Vis that in a cup is the different from the league remember a league it’s a marathon OT it’s a lot of games a cup it’s a Once off this how we call it a once off thing in a cup you play that 90 minutes whatever effort that you put in that 90 minutes might make you win might make you lose so in a cup it’s a different game and we need to give credit to magazi like I said in a cup game is different from a League match a League match you know are going to play other more games but in a cup game you know it’s it’s do die and and and the players are looking for for December bonuses so at least myi players they’ll get some December bonuses and yeah we we we we feeling we’re not feeling sorry for Sundowns unfortunately we’re not feeling sorry for them in fact it shows that football football it’s it’s it’s a cruel game because you may have the best team yeah at the end of the day the effort and the results of the match will will will determine who wins the trophy and I don’t know what is it with sown said they might have won before but when it comes to C games they a little bit beaten they a little bit beaten especially in the finals they they normally get beaten but this cup it means this cup it’s a it’s a sort of small team trophy because it started with st Bosch last season and then this season it’s h it’s it’s myaz so yeah and I was I was I was left with with my friends OT through my last second that at least if it was Chiefs there we not even going to laugh because they used to eat so now because it Sundowns we are going to laugh until the end of the let me bring ter ter welcome to the show how are you hey I’m not okay OT I’m not okay angry what’s wrong what’s wrong gu the biggest problem we have there at SS is the m fans okay that’s the biggest problem man those fans are destroying the club because now what happened was when M got fired yeah and these people don’t want as the coach first thing when Maga came he rested those players who are crucial to the team yeah and the national team because he knows the the schedule of the season the whole year so you cannot play with the same players the whole all the tournaments afcan qualifiers League champions league plus Club World Cup so they started now to say no is trying to destroy teani not better than they started comparing now the players are listening they social media they look at these things they listen to the guy to to us as fans and now it’s starting to cause friction in the team the guy came and he said we need to rest players because we have a long season what happens there’s his proof got injured he wasn’t playing him he was playing him off the bench because he knew his schedule second thing my said listen L guys we need to change the way we play because it’s not it’s not effective especially in Champions League so you know what they say about Insanity you do the same thing again and again and you’re expecting different result he’s been there at for eight years he knows you know he even said I was watching this podcast our problem is we don’t watch all the the the interviews before and after the game just we just watch interviews on Tik Tok those 30 minutes and then we draw conclusions it was on the Sundowns podcast with mahut and I think it’s DJ n he said the problem we have is Champions League group stages we we Cru past our teams yeah and then when we reach quarterfinal and semifinal now we face those North African teams who are very disciplined and structured so with our slow buildups it get hard to penate to penetrate those teams because they play side they sit back and hit you in the counter so that’s why we need to get the ball in the Box faster he doesn’t want to change sh shine but we need to change something we cannot do the same thing again and again and again and expect different results he’s been there and the fatigue story he said our players they play a lot of game during the season when it comes to crucial uh gamees they they fatigue so now since we were complaining that he’s not playing m he’s not playing wo this and that now when it comes to this final he was forced his hand was forced to play these players who are coming from bafana who’ve been playing uh two games in one week who’ve been traveling second half they couldn’t come these players couldn’t call he said I only had one training session with these guys so now if he didn’t play these guys and we lost we were going to blame him now we are blaming him because he played these guys and we saw their fatigue see Rani fans they don’t want to let go of Rani and focus on S now we have a crucial game tomorrow these players were supposed to play this game not the final so now what you supposed to do now if he he doesn’t play them tomorrow and we lose is this coaches bad if you plays them while we all saw they couldn’t cope second we going to say why did you bring in these players who are fatig won two Cup competitions in two years sometimes is not a cup competition team we hardly win cup competition we win the league we do well in the CHS league so this noise now that is going around r f saying we lost two cups we lost two cups how many cups is r m l and there was we didn’t have this noise yeah why now all of a sudden when it’s now there’s a big noise where was this noise when Rani played his friend Center back while we had Defenders who were sitting in the St time no I can feel it I wanted to give you some time M just to be fair to everybody else let me go to welcome to It Was [Laughter] Written Mr they deserve to win that game it’s not like okay like team when they play againsts where they have to change style of play and whatnot yeah they were not arogant they did homework to because if you check especially first half [Music] that success [Music] these guys are not shaken man they they not on Panic you can tell still always running [Music] toward so guys [Music] did they fix the wrong problem yeah they’re playing faster they’ve got more shots they’re doing all that still last 30 minutes man did they fix the wrong problem and how they fix that thing when they get into really important matches after 20 minutes last 20 minutes always I think I don’t think I think just even though doesn’t have much of position I would say in inverted commas they were outplayed in terms of so TS right didn’t even I think they two yeah so they were just they did a great job [Laughter] andam scream please let’s try get this ranking let me go to I thought maybe Pirates maybe maybe Pirates [Laughter] and I just want to say and encourage there’s a video that you put out there YouTube where we can contribute on something I would love to go and have a look at as well I did the right thing you know Tik Tok we can’t say much but I just want to rehas do something to show some love and you know just for the growth of this channel you know what I mean because really enjoy the work you’re doing and we need to be patriotic as well to say [Laughter] I rewatched the game yesterday I think it Wasing so I rewatched the whole game again [Laughter] but nonetheless you know I think something that maybe the most of the guys I didn’t hear them talking about about since I said I watched the game twice yeah Ronan was not switched on guys let’s just be honest I know my guess was playing a low block blah blah blah but he was he was just not there man I don’t know maybe if there was something that you know was going on behind but you could not um feel him um throughout the game what is he doing look at even the first goal he was even aware of his surroundings let alone having to make a move even before it goes I mean the second one I forgive him because that one that was too fast any [Laughter] it was a beautiful game man was off I was not happy with I just want to ask you then when we speak about this Sundowns team with these cups what’s happening to Sundowns when it comes to Cup games in as much as they’re a dominant team and they’re very good and they’ve got the quality and all of that and we’re making it excuses it’s been game after game after game where it becomes important I believe show they just have to have a a more um awareness attitude especially in the dying minutes of the game you understand because look at what’s happening and the other goals they’ve conceded uh in the past cup final games they happened in the last uh few minutes if not dying dying minute if not two minutes you understand and that’s something that now they need to sit back and say guys what is it that we’re doing wrong in the last 20 minutes of the game that we we we managed in the past other 70 minutes but just in the 20 minutes then we tend to lose the game they need to find a way or rather find players that will come and rejuvenate the the energy I mean I saw must confidence confidence something something and I I feel so sorry that the boy could not bring any magic when he came in but I can tell you now if that boy had scored a goal or they could have won we would have been singing something different today you know but sometimes certain games they’re just not meant for you Messi was more determined H they they had nothing to lose and they knew you know what if we beat the Pirates come on now okay if we beat the pirates pirates usually is the one that beats Sundowns finals so they I think that also boosted their confidence knowing we can give it a try let’s see what we can do and I mean all props to our [Music] we’re aiming for 60,000 likes tonight and thank you to those who have gifted thus far here’s the question to the comments how does Sundowns fix the the end of games how does Sundowns go about fixing the end of games because last season we complained about the season before last there was complaints about against wead he didn’t bring on a central defensive midfielder or another Center back hey guys who’s who’s echoing here who’s echoing um didn’t bring on an extra Defender and that cost that cost them the game and then now we are seeing UK mangaba who’s also going a full pedal um for the second halfes to try and get more goals but we’re seeing the same type of outcome happening in the comments tell me what do Sundowns have to do to show up the last 30 minutes of the game and if you watch this show is something I’ve stressed a lot because we’ve seen the pattern it was just a matter of time when they take they get taken advantage of in that sense let me go to the conge lior welcome how are you yeah yeah there were some circumstances that forced me to change my name but it’s okay um what did you think of the game my brother welcome I’m good I’m good uh Mr OT the game was was interesting to watch because um first and formost almost all all the teams they played according to their identity how they play right so now the biggest problem came in where I think um sown used a squad where even on Facebook and everywhere people they were saying this team is going to kill my right they used a squad where people say know this squad is very dangerous I was very skeptical about about that lineup right yeah I was asking myself how are these players going to play because even EAS you know when you have a team that is full of stars and it’s playing against a team that does not have stars that team is going to lose it’s bound to lose you understand and then that was my first point my second Point uh that I had a problem with on the Sundown side it was um the bench for me the bench did not have a lot of players that can come in when s is losing and change the game to make them play right if you check the only person that can play there it was MI s never played any finalu never played any Final in he’s still young you understand so for me I had a lot of questions and reservations when it came to the lineup and the um what you call the the substitutes right yeah one thing I when it comes to magazi they line up even on prin conferences told us that this is how magazi is going to line up right which is exactly what he said but for me I think they liked planning in the side of ss because you know how Mesi plays you know how they score right and they scored the first goal it was the same goal they scored against Pirates against Chiefs it was the very same it’s a replica right so it means they it means they didn’t do their work their due diligence in analyzing the game right for me the way I saw it and then when I thinki out outsmarted Sundowns in term of analysis and application of whatever they practiced and the other thing with SS when you say they like you’ve been saying when it comes to like the second half and those other I think around 70 to 90 minutes they switch off right you know where the problem is according to the way I see it the problem is in the first half they play a very high intensity game the players they play very fast which is something they not used to something that was just introduced in this season right so now it it begs a question are the players fit enough to play the whole 90 minute at that pace now you understand for me that’s where I think the fitness coaches and all these other players they need they need to pull up their success because each and every game sometimes when they start they start very high but when it comes to the second half they start dropping it means the players they tired they cannot keep up the same momentum the same intensity that they started with right um yeah when it came to they played according to the way they supposed to play and they got their chances they used them and the rest was History Mr OT can I ask you um yes do we give Messi the credit for taking Mami swns out of their own normal game plan because we saw players like alander alander was wide Ribero was wide at some point reers was coming into the 10 position um was that Maki or was it maybe the thing you spoke about [Music] yeah I I think I think this thing of of of um the way sown structured their team from the start it was problematic because you can’t start with two cdms when you’re playing against a team that is going to play a l block against you they won’t be attacking so there’s no need for you to be defensive right yeah and then in the same breath when when mud overlaps one of the two cdms were supposed to go and cover that that position of mud so that he does not get tired because he was from representing the national team right so they overworked him that’s why they ended up substituting him so I think they were supposed to cover that position and um on the question that you asked right they were also I think they also thought they going to win I think they overconfident in which sense because if you check just after the second half they considered they thought maybe it’s going to just be the same thing that was happening in the first half play in the second half very yeah okay okay I don’t know if if I’ve answered you no no no you I’ve got you I’ve got you uh for for time let me bring inong bongs welcome to the show oh B okay let’s see if welcome how did you feel about this game ums [Music] [Music] [Music] 1.1 it’s 1.1 which [Laughter] [Music] table doesn’t always mean you are playing bad football came there and said you know what we going to do what we always do you can play play set pieces and then there two goals they only got three shorts I think two On Target two goals if you Che on the other hand 20 short 20 shorts six On Target and they only score scored one so if predictable doesn’t always mean you’re going to play Bad doesn’t mean you’re going to play ugly it it depends like you can’t you can’t ask a fish to fly change your style of food foot continue to to do and that’s what they did they they came in and then they disciplined and in that and and I’m not talking about [Music] HTI it’s more like [Music] like that’s the suspect ches yeah but um they did what they always do they move the ball the only negative thing they did was trying to score from Far because with people keep you can’t beat him you can’t score three goals from maybe you can score one but you can’t score more than more than two goals against that type of a goalkeeper I think um if they try to change or Cuts you know in of to come in the middle that’s all I wanted to say no but I wanted to ask you on that point on that point you speaking about mean I feel like Sundowns changed the way that they play in this game and maybe that hurt them because I understand possession but M for a very long time versus a defensive team you allow them to get back into their sets they won the ball back from Wonder Boy played it quickly up they were able to find rers in the spaces where he normally scores but for most of that game or R number 10A is out wide they started crossing the ball what happened how much how much credit do we give to but then do we also look ATS and say you came into this game differently [Music] m is not a specialist when it comes to this type of Cs it becomes a [Music] problem compe they must pull up their socks I I think they did change [Music] think they were not committing too much and space instead of like committing and Maring so and for doing that but but okay I think another win them with position beautiful football these CS you must play for time for time I to jump in because all I heard from from was that maybe there must be a joint operation between Hugo Bruce and and they must come together to coach both teams let me go to welcome to the show how are you yes you I’m good at you my brother tell me how do you feel about this game can you hear me I can hear you interesting game whereby okay um I was listening to dur week where he stated that his defense as well as his defensive mid fielders must come to the party so I was a little bit worried thinking that he’s going to about offensive players you wonder maked so but then when the game comes in then yes he organized the game like he stated in the press conference where a sit back M tried to pin him at the back but then they were unable to pen tra and they managed to bottle Lucas riberto Costa where we saw okay only one chance there where he pulled up champag P toward re and then put the ball in the back of the net a well taken goal for foram re as you know he’s been on form from the game against K Chiefs so as the game progressed they didn’t Panic then came second half then they managed to equalize atmad with his educated left food this is a player when I saw him against or P SC from the penalty he applied also against that one so that’s how they equalized as the game progressed and then we saw lady like how they ConEd against Orlando Pirates so another pinpoint Corner which had a f from Sam managed to put the theoria played against M was very impressive there so but but m got this tendency of lead go or whenever they take the lead go on to concede if I can take you back to the game against Stell Bosch in the cup remember they scored first while re was Striker there he scor TW they won at then again against Pirates same thing they scored first from Tani Pirates came back from and then he scored the win same thing happened even the Saturday so they need to work on that usually s whenever they score first it’s always difficult to bounce back from the match so I think the coach needs to fix that so even I had one of the brother the simp saying R Williams was just quite I don’t know what was happening with him because usually he Mar the defense so well so I was so impressed also with how Abrahams has been converted to right back but at un of Petoria he played as if he a he a striker but very very impressive when I watched him so and looking at lint as well I’m so happy of the fact that this is a coach remember when B City got relegated he went on to join cha United and there was an instance where I remember is it CH the owner of CH Cher United calling him but today the has so he’s proving critics wrong and it’s good because he went on to coach Biz Pondo Chiefs as well as Summerfield Dynamo that time around he revived himself at Maki so I was so impressed and I realized that when I reflected back from what he said during the week he was just playing towards M Sundowns where okay he never spoke about offensive players and his offensive players very Mar toward you look at Mak this is a player as well who did well against Orlando pirates in that first game where he was very instrumental despite no scoring know Abrahams and for goal so for me they deserve to win and then also CH what a player for me because I reflect back from that Tel knockout the very same trophy which has been now called calling knockout when they played againsts at Bara in the quarterfinals that’s where they won two n i remember was one of the to goal scorers there so they they had the beating of he had the beating of and that’s where at some point and stuff was so then he went on to meet orando Pirates then he W he won against orando Pat I remember when Pat were going to face I said that Elvis last time when he played them he managed to did again so for me a well deserved Victory and then well deserv man definitely come the PSL Awards will be the player of the tournament I need 30 seconds I want to ask you a question um should Sundowns now worry about about physical Strikers so you saw what happened with in that first game and then should they be worried about aial polls is that a way to beat Sundowns now yeah I think it’s it’s a way to be because Le they playing a similar style of football where they always use their flings to attack so for me it was so disappointed it’s unlike them to ConEd from set play and you will see even at some point ronon Williams used to complain saying I don’t like conceding from balls because he SC whenever I watched him so but I don’t know what was happening to them at the back he just froze just like how they did against City so the performance was just questionable for me on the at the back there so not forgetting him as well so to go back to the drawing Bo and fix that problem because like I stated that flaming be wants trophies and currently they have lost two trophies so which means med cup betway Premiership and also ke Champions League they need to get something no thank you thank you thank you so much let me go to bongs bongs welcome to the show how are you they just win trophies they are not just a small team that came here to be a relegated team in four games to the final win this game and what did Sundowns do wrong from both sides Sundowns what didong didn’t and try and play the other players since 40 players in their squad few for they didn’t go fors they just set back and let s do their work they they wereing inue me try other players players the same lineup ug because was doing very well early in the season when there was nothing to to to play for or it was still early and then later on same Squad is it is it something now they must carry on rotation even if it’s a cup final they have to rotate cuz the player need to give other players a chance the best players in the league so why are they losing the best players in the league I think how does this affect m going forward do you think that there’s a pressure now or pressure on the players how do they play in the Champions League and in in the other cups knowing that M you still won the Champions League last year what happens no it’s a must win for for for bers and downs they will have to go out there and try and win C Champions League espag okay no for for for for time sake I’m going to jump in there um all right you’re actually answering a question that I had how important are these cups and would you guys as Sundowns fans feel fine if he won a local trophy or two you know a local trophy or two and didn’t win the Champions League how does that balance out and do you feel if the do you feel that there’s pressure on M Sundowns now when they go into other trophies now other cups that does it add a pressure does it become something that motivates them how do we look at that um let me bring in the the panel the last the second last panel here um so let me see just let me know in the comments please tatan scream tatan scream tatan scream and also guys 9:00 the ttb show is going to be starting as well so please check that out EP is um running that show on that side too so please let’s support each other we are all we are all Brothers in this um content creation thing so please support us guys support us support us support us but now 60,000 um okay let me see and follow if you have not followed every Monday to Thursday at 700 p.m. you can also watch any of the episodes back um they are available in full on YouTube it’s not just the reviews of matches or watch alongs we also have days where we have incredible conversations and also my content lives on YouTube so please head on over to watch the content if you want to know exactly how I feel about the game I’ve got videos so um they are there let me let in the next panel Wes welcome to the show how are you [Music] but I would I would say that it’s a cup it’s a cup game it’s a cup games a cup final obviously you know the momentum is different even any team that expected to beat yeah when it comes to Cup finals because people are motivated um and irregardless of your Tactical or technical abilities sometimes because you know it’s a cup final somebody needs to win and um I believe that’s exactly what happened on this one but it’s becoming a a pattern man with Sundowns when the pressure’s on um it’s sort of like they fall apart you look at urani um he also played two Cup finals didn’t couldn’t get it through played a semi-final Champions League couldn’t get it through now Mana has played a final can’t get into the get through um to go win what’s happening at M Sundowns when it comes to these Cup competitions hey BR I think it’s a it’s also a different case when it comes to because as as you know the change of philosophy um comes with a lot of things um new set of players New Philosophy a lot needs to change with team because you also need to bring the current players to what you trying to do because I’m sure but we’ve been doing this and we’ve been winning for quite some time why are you changing it you know kind of and and it’s going to take a lot and a lot of motivation for him to actually get those key players of the team to to that because I do have a feeling that there is a little bit of resentment and and somehow it is showing in the field of to a certain extent I’m not saying that’s the the truth but that’s just me thinking that it takes a lot for for for for a team to to change philosophy and if if fans are expecting for that to be smooth I don’t think it it it will be does he have time wish does he have time will he will they give him next season something to show for um you’ve been here for for for the longest time as a coach and and and we want something to show for as as football fans um so I don’t think he has I don’t think for him it’s gonna be situation Pirates where he came in mid season he tried he shuffled he did this he did that and and he’s actually getting it right you know I don’t think he has the time because he has the quality also you know [Music] is there so I think for the most part with the mam sown team my observation is we’ve been playing with mown that kept the ball um 80 90% of the time and as for 0% of the time in the field of play and you don’t get to see whether the marod Sundowns can actually defend we talking about those pieces because you attack them that is why at some point um Ronan Williams was questionable is he really good or not until we had to see him play make those save saves national team and things like that then people you know convinced because if people are not coming to you as much um how how perfect or how wonderful you are and and he is you know he thinks he is so I think um the the sown that plays now it’s a s that is not too clean on the ball because obviously it’s a fast pace you know so they give you time as the opponent to have the B progresses and I think that’s where it’s at the transition hasn’t been smooth and I think that that’s exactly what it is okay no W for time sake I’m going to bring in Mr Sir Mr Sir welcome to the show how are you I’m good and you Mr OT how’s it no I’m great my brother I’m great tell me m two1 how do you feel about this game um firstly we we we need to give um credit where credit is due not only to maazi but to PSL teams you know I I think a lot of PSL teams now are realizing that you know Brandon tutor’s ability to defend his tactics in defending are actually good and can be implemented for these big three sides I mean Oh you mean um Lawson Clinton Lawson no I’m tactics whereby Defenders are not afraid to get a big Compact and really really Force attackers to shoot from outside of the box and now here we are dealing with a Sundown side that besides it’s it being direct they also like to control the game and push you forward and push you in so now if they’ve mastered being together being close and manm marking like that then obviously they’re going to be a tough defense to break down they’re ready for the Press you understand so it’s very that was very very impressive from imak I was I was actually impressed um coming into the second half honestly those set pieces were were a thing of beauty those chances that they created were a thing of beauty something that you know we’re saying Sundown was not good enough but I’m telling you now as a Buccaneer I don’t think I would have survived such set pieces those were beautiful and well executed you understand so we mustn’t doubt s capabilities sorry about that guys ah it’s my it’s my Tik Tok is saying I’m not active yeah so we must give credit to imaki for saying hey you know what we can do this and if you see the positioning in the Box it was it was well orchestrated you can see that these people are like you know what we have tall Big Boy Strikers tall Big Boy Defenders that can definitely get behind the ball let’s utilize that and that’s exactly what they did they have a guy with an amazing left foot to put the ball inside the Box why not utilize that that’s exactly what they did all their positioning was allowing for those crosses to come in they knew that they couldn’t beat s Dan in their own game they played their own game waited for opportunities to get into San’s half and capitalize on all their strengths they played in their strengths and that was very impressive from a newly promoted side but can I ask you is it something that can be replicated is it something that can be replicated or is it a uniquely Mesi thing because in as much as they were great defensively you also have a cheap as there the influence you know you also have those type of things can it be replicated elsewhere like can you see a Cheves doing this type of thing I think you know teams Chiefs and Pirates these are teams with better quality players but I feel like their players are not suited for these high pressing and compact defending Styles you know it’s also a system thing it’s also a player profile thing you know so I feel like in teams like your uh golden arrows teams like your um baring was it 2021 22 season USU that that those are squads that I feel like with big men at the back very strong and powerful Defenders can do that even a Cape Town City can try but I’m not making any promises but uh yeah you see Pani City also is able to be a bit compact really absorb pressure so mid-table teams chipa which is a very good defensive team can also try that you know it can’t really be replicated because what comes now is the second part of the game where the attack is and if you can’t have your own attack executed well in order to complement each other remember what we saw with I think it was Richard’s Bay if I’m not mistaken uh against Orlando Pirates whereby they were pretty good defensively you know absorbing pirates’s pressure Pirates were forced to play one twos rotate around the defense but it was going forward where they laed where you’d find only a midfielder playing up higher defensive player playing up high it was all over the place so if teams can say they’re going to play a low block like this which is not impossible they need to say we are also able to play according to our attackers strengths position them nicely you know football everybody wants to play out from the back and you know do those fancy things isn’t that the issue man here no as when you’re playing against the Sundowns with higher quality you’re playing against the Chiefs Chiefs might not be the best right now as people say but we understand that the quality of the player profile is way different from that of Royal am for example you cannot you cannot even try to play from the back you cannot even try I mean remember when they were playing against Sundowns just a moment of of lapsing from Sundowns saw them being pounds at by by was it Cho I think it was pounds you understand they weren’t expecting him to be powerful and be able to receive the ball and actually Hit it first time like that they were not expecting that so you can’t do these things our quality is not the same here we play Route One football but you need to position your route one football accordingly okay that’s what promoted from the NFD but Mr for time sake for time sake I have to jump in there question for the comments question for the comments would you allow your team to play the mai way because I feel like nauy we have this thing in our heads that we want to play this expensive amazing touch football whereas sometimes man tyo take your two chances go home with the win tell me in the comments will you be would you be F of doing that and let me bring CIS welcome to the show how are you greetings Mr how are you I’m good I’m always good I’m always good I’ve been rested me and I can hear you perfectly tell me about this game how do you feel about it you oh mixed emotions and reactions but um first of all um guys let’s keep it simple big congratulations to coach Clinton you have to give the the coaches flowers man and also I also give a big shout out to this man CH as guys that’s history not a lot of players have done what that guy has done actually goalkeepers to be specific you understand and um going into the game my first comment I think to be honest man coach was outclass I think guys we have to be honest he was outclassed so in in those terms what I mean is that you look at a coach coach like coach Clinton um you remember you just spoke now about regarding that we have this mentality that we have to play Route One football I mean no sorry um simple football um passing um positional based football whereby in South Africa actually not all games actually accommodate that so for me what I looked at in this game is that first of all his sown under one-sided in attack that was my my my first question when I saw this game that are they actually one-sided because if you look at it shots are coming but they all coming in the same pattern okay they all coming in the same pattern so from what I from what I I have with me in the M18 cup semi-final against I’m St I think right with Coach manga they had 11 shots but three shots on target the fact that they had 11 shots we can see the attack is happening but is it happening in the same pattern or different obviously it’s impossible that you’re telling me that that attack can happen in different patterns but it’s impossible that you’re not scoring I mean it happened yesterday um against Mesi no sorry Saturday yesterday whereby you saw the goal that um Raina scored they actually changed the pattern it was a moment of whereby they did not actually they did not actually attack the way that they did they went centrally and they got the goal you can go back also and check the other goals that they got in the other finals I’m referring specifically to the stes one you will see what I’m talking about and then now I come back to the Lael cup again I think by the first half Sundowns was sitting on seven shots but still only one goal what’s happening same pattern are they actually onesided that’s my biggest concern about the about Sundowns in terms of the the players right I feel like again over here um coach Mana went for quality over I would say player management I don’t know what you can refer it to but I know it as a a term in terms of coaching I just forgot it but it’s it’s realistic your players just came from International Duty you have players that actually can match the quality I mean if we’re being honest tell me one player that is not above the quality of a Messi player at s all of them literally literally all of them are above the quality so that is when I was like questioning the balancing between the bench in the starting lineup they had a tournament in right now um Mr OT right and they ch to take under players they chose to take under 17 players under 16 players and also a few first team players that are not playing you understand so now my question was did they use that tournament to their advantage because that’s the tournament where you takes the you take the likes of um who can I name maybe Peterson they played him for example you take you understand Mr so when you you understand take them in take them to play them and demand them to win the tournament I mean tell me imagine players that can win a tournament in one day what are they going to do when they when when they when they when they actually have one game to win and keep in mind we’re talking about players that are not playing so they are hungry and eager to win the game they are hungry and eager to win the game so that’s the only part that’s dressed me and then also we come to the bench I I don’t think the bench was was used wisely guys if we have to be honest the bench was not used wisely you’re playing against Maki um you have an advantage in terms of quality and fitness right um surprise they did not have a surprise in I have a term that I normally call it but they do not have a surprise you know like for example what chiefs were doing when the season started where Sereno just came and surprised they never had that surp price from the bench I didn’t see it honestly so I don’t know in terms of selection of the bench what the coach was thinking but for me in my perspective looking at the M Poss look to be bringing on P players you see for time I’m sorry I’m sorry I’m sorry I’m have to jum in for time let me bring in welcome how are you no not a sold out not a sold [Music] out notld out how many less than 50,000 not sold out weeks break yeah you use those players they only trained with with the rest of the team that didn’t go toal team only for two days yeah let us be honest then from Lao why do you have to play with two pivot against sing not even a short at Target and truly speaking is extremely Under Pressure because already two cups and we cannot say PIR but the Pirates they putting their hand up to say you are really really serious 2024 2025 and they Champions League because now the thing is that they knew they enjoy more of not having the ball you can have 95% of the ball but they know very well with two or three chances we put the ball in the back of the net they know the more goalkeeper there will be that element of concentration they knew very well I think there’s one by of the things as much as they says has dep but comp the whole most of the because you is still young and he has never played any compet not not to say competitive but any Cup Final so truly speaking I can say that there was an element of arrog from for the fact that you can’t introduce or bring team you had full two weeks with your squad and you you’re always posting about dep and rotation why didn’t you rotate those players then was very very but also also another un and another was one of the good players but he never at his prime or during his career played the Cup Final was also okay but it’s fine it’s fine let me bring welcome to the show how are you how are you my brother I’m rest rest how do you feel about this game yeah yeah want this game this game was an underscore or a realization that in life there are two people there’s a lecture and there’s a teacher a lecture always assumes that people understand a lecture will assume that you understand and a teacher will take you step by step step by step step by step as a lay man that you are that’s number one if if you look at the goals that that’s considered it was an issue of M thinking that his two full bags which are converted understands their their their their role in terms of in terms of covering in terms of covering species for those blind runs while under those boys couldn’t understand yeah and those boys couldn’t I I don’t I don’t think they couldn’t understand but it was it was a matter of saying nature nature took it its cause in terms of if you’re an attacker by Nature you are always going to look to be on the front foot especially when you are playing foot especially when you’re playing position based football so you so you look at the first go the one that who who this boy yeah was was was thinking front food I’m going to go forward going to take the ball I’m going to go forward similarly to simar similarly to to to that other fullback on the first goal he was thinking they have it covered I must just be on space and receive the ball so that so so so that’s the issue of Nature and conversion yes I understand I understand converting players but we need to take into into understanding that they are not going to always be % sure we must always Dr we must always drill facts to these people that your your primary what do you call this your primary responsibility yeah is to defend so I that’s why I’m saying that assume that M and understood but they had but they did not understand what what what he meant that they must be focused for 90 minutes and then they suffered the consequences and to be fair yeah but but but to be fair Glen um Sundowns has been losing in these finals and and and semifinals of like the CF Champions League by fine margins you know it’s been we’ve seen we’ve seen urani um is it ready just coming down to maybe s need to get proper right and left backs but I mean they still lose at the end of the games what what what’s causing that the issue of TR the issue of temperament you know to talk about games of consequences and games that you need games that you can afford to lose and and and all that stuff that’s why I’m saying that’s why I’m saying the difference between Rani and this guy was that Rani always drilled the importance of the game to the players you know five minutes five minutes before brani would Dr the importance of the game to players even though they lost you must remember that this team is CED because they’re using money for everything so bound to be yeah it’s a problem it’s a problem it’s a real real problem you you going to speak about Al yeah I wanted to say something about Al and and R let me start with r he was given too much freedom freedom to to an extent that he started drifting away from play and and forgetting that his dangerous position was strictly on The Middle on the vicinity of the four and five as I may say ala I don’t know I don’t know what to say about Ala but I can understand that why ala was was not as as as ala I I I understand the issue of why ala was not effective because you must remember that when you play and home these are these are players who who play with intensity they press high and alenda for me is quite slow yes yes yes he might be a good B Rotator and stuff but he’s quite slow so the two so so the two pivot as they call them play him out of the game you see so again what do you feel about and shal and the rool that they played in this game sh one shal must must start learning how to how to pass the ball to his to his players and how to place the ball on the sides of the keep and and another thing that that is worth mentioning sometimes were not that threatening sometimes we not that threatening to be to be honest so but reers reers I I I I just canot understand Reas for now he he he plays well when he’s when he’s on the shoulder of the defender but when he’s he’s he’s on the face of the defender when it comes to holding the ball and stuff I I I just don’t get him I don’t understand him quite yet but I’m I’m going to Stud I’m for time sake for time sake um guys likes just tap the screen it is free um thank you to those that have given gifts as well guys these things actually help out quite a bit you guys I don’t know if if if you understand that part but question again uh for the comments I want to know there in the comments your comments are going to stay on my YouTube um I want to know uh how does m sown get over the hump I’m going to ask it again how does m SS get over the hump what do they need to do in order to go out and win these uh um these finals and these games of consequence because as much as we’re speaking about Tani in GL terms we also have to know thatat went into a seminal and lost to you look at um this season knocked out from B now he lost this final here surely this seems like it’s bigger than just what the coaches are saying but let me bring in welcome to the show how are you [Music] remind you all of you become the first team in the the PSL to beat a team first division team TX Galax fin number one R out relax it’s fine we’re going back to the thr other this is the only they play fair they win the game we are veryy chion there’s nothing wrong and I’m still standing my coach done very well he play very well he out play why why the goalkeeper is a man of the match why goalkeeper man of the match if we didn’t play well which means we always get one or two let’s go to the drawing Port what what is said at the drawing Port like I said I don’t think e swns gets outplayed in these finals or these games but what do you change what do you fix is it an attitude thing or which which attitude OT because of they create enough chances if you watch the whole game how many and I’m not trying to be snugs it’s just it’s now final number three if I’m not mistaken what do you mean those are the fact you can go okay semal Champions League if you want to judge you don’t TST the what does it mean B watching yeah watching because of but I’m not here to judge they play well it’s part of football and I don’t care who said what this is my opinion for time for time say guys to honest with you I don’t like bringing reps into this because the moment you bring reps in for a final then there’s going to be questions about the semis and the quarters then there’s going to be all these type of things guys that’s I don’t like to to speak that much about reps but let me go to uh okay stupid I don’t know welcome stupid man I came it was it was a beautiful final uh both we only I think as Africans we only saw we only saw two games before the final because truly speaking I doubt people watched that game so we only saw IMI against the Pirates we saw IMI against Kaiser CHS and then we saw IMI now so we cannot really as for it happens it happens o it happens I remember I’m a I’m a I’m a pirates fan I remember there was a season where I think Co coach Roger da was still a coach Pirates I think he reached about four finals in one season he lost them all so it happens it happens it’s it’s it’s football at the end of the day uh there’s nothing wrong with s down it’s just that as fans obviously we will always hyp the banter will always be there it’s their time to suffer I’m not complaining by the way they have to suffer uh it’s it’s it’s it’s long over two but nonetheless it was a beautiful game I watched the entire game it was a beautiful game uh there’s still a lot to do for having said that uh because of how can I put it it team moral uh I think this might affect them psychologically but the guys the guys physically and the talent wise you can never question the quality is there do you think that piece do you think that this thing yeah last 30 minutes uh now just purely football do you think that it’s something that Sundowns needs to figure out that maybe teams will start realizing that I man if we can survive and I’m not saying it’s an easy thing but if we can survive to for 60 65 minutes maybe we have a chance to steal it is that is that something that sown should be wary of yeah they should be worry but the football is a is a game of moments um the first five minutes the first 10 the first 15 and so forth so imagine if swns had scored two goals uh in the in the first half it would it would have been a different story Al together we wouldn’t be talking about s Downs having a problem last here last 20 because remember the game against imaro I think they they scored uh was it marumo how many marumo the four one four four n four yeah yes yes yeah so yeah so IM marumo came in the last 20 minutes but theage was already done so I think beginning I think the solution is to is to drill into the players that okay we cannot uh play throughout 90 minutes with the same intensity so we rather score early goals and then so that when we sa at the later stage I mean the damage would be done the other team might score one or two goals but they won’t win the match you understand so if if if if they can do it that way because I don’t think uh they can keep the same intensity the whole 90 minutes it’s the same as pirat P used to do that first 45 minutes there will be there will come guns BL and if they score two goals and then the last 30 minutes the other team can score the two and then it’s a draw that’s how they lost the league in the era of Mito and P so I I think they should they should score just many goals as they can in the first half for for for time sake I’m going to jump in um guys before I go to guys some of the discussions are just about patterns and things so I I I feel as though in as much as there’s reasons and we’re all coming up with the reasons for each of the finals and all of that stuff if a pattern is there then we have to interrogate it and we have to look at it and say okay truthfully what what what is the thing shut down what can be done and things like that it’s a it’s not a conversation to put down M sown it’s a conversation to say okay we’ve seen now the pattern Where Do We Go From Here same conversation we had about Orlando Pirates uh um how does Pirates win the league you have to go out and be consistent over 30 how do you become convin over 30 maybe you don’t play high Tempo all the games maybe psychologically you need to lock in for some of these are football tats guys so please uh uh let’s let’s try find some solutions too is not to go and touch anyone was with you in the studio do you hear what I’m telling you it’s football n ising but anyway anyway Mr O you know what I will say my was just super lucky you you don’t win a game of football like that Mr OT oh oh gosh you don’t win a game of football like that um you don’t face I don’t know I was 20 shots and get away with it they were super lucky um and I think is is an issue Mr OT we teams want to push it to the last minute but when you get to the last minute you start realizing with if I take it to penalties I’m against Ronan Williams that’s when you you you you get motivated I have to push now it’s now never that’s why you see even leing to they were actually trying Mr they might have not taken a shot but they actually trying to like let’s just avoid penalties at all costs and I think noron he also has that thing okay let’s go to penalties that goal is to I don’t think the sown team could consider go like that Mr OT where the whole defense has shut down where across LS in the six yard and a player is unmarked were lucky um in a number of of shots they face cuz some great Strikers I remember when they explained issue goal scoring in South Africa that we actually try and miss the goalkeeper and we is a overseas they put it through the legs yeah they shoot at the goalkeeper so that if anything if it goes because you hardly going to hit it straight so goalkeeper you actually get the net understand so usually goalkeeper you’re bound to score goalkeeper I I Ed anys took that first shot was crying he even scratched his rubbed his hands Mr OT have went I remember rest in peace but the way It Was Written in the start someone said even the slogan said f understand but then are we not giving Ms too much credit in this because and and I don’t mean it to say that they were bad but it’s like if similar patterns keep happening you know the past few games you speak about a cross that almost got scored I remember r m last last minute there was a cross they played that barely just barely uh um Ronan came away with that ball he can’t we give credit to some of these teams to say that hey guys you did what you had to do Messi has been playing this way for the past I don’t I don’t know how many games in the league and also in this tournament is it luck anymore or is it maybe just I guys it is what it is and can’t we question Sundowns and say um it was bound to happen this way for them too that you going to have a game where you’ve got no shots or you’ve got all the shots that doesn’t go in you know and because you haven’t done the work now you get hurt on the other side can’t we also speak about that that it works the other way too like I said Mr that secondy pushed for it I I do acknowledge the fact that they actually tried it was not a Mana from Heaven it was as a result of the effort however I still say that is unlike SS during a corner kick and no one is there to attend understand has been doing this now is a CV of this yeah that’s what I’m saying as much as I want to give credit to I have to make it about Sundowns Mr I have to make it about Sundowns and say it’s unlike them it’s it’s unlike them certain quadrants of the field it’s unlike Ronan Williams to switch off like that for both goals even R Williams sff like that he’s usually at the right place at the right time when the defense fumbles Ron Williams is there to save them so like I’m saying in as much as I want to give credit to Mr I’m GNA be honest with you is great stuff but that was pure luck well can I ask you this then Mal if they’ve played so many games of consequence versus you guys in the Champions League and all of that stuff is it not like them to concede a late goal that looks like it shouldn’t have gone in because all of the goals that they concede late are goals that are lapses of lapses of concentration so is that not like them in that sense who Mike is Sundowns oh cuz they concede like this we don’t know how it happened person was out of out of position all of a sudden somebody slips after a while don’t you say I this is you it’s two games Mr OT remember the M we took it to penalties es Tunis scored a late goal that came out of nowhere yeah before we did that’s the same thing the counter was already crying but listen to what I’m saying games but listen to what I’m saying what we did we did was the same it was done but 22 and they won you guys come in score late it’s done and it’s not one or two finals it’s three or four or five finals so maybe we should ask about finals and games of consequence is the fact that in between all of that there’s also the mtn8 they take us to penalties you understand so I I I I would also urge them to not fall for the four out of five is that not a pattern not really Mr OT it’s very different is I know I don’t have time but it’s very different um Pirates it was a game Blow by blow Mr OT I don’t think it’s only a matter of concentration lab was unfortunate and was fre but Mr Switched Off in in in a way that’s that’s not s Downs like but I hear you but I I don’t agree Mr I think he was super lucky there is no way that you face so many shots and and we say uh this is how you play should have bued some of those chances should have been more persistent I no okay no no no for time sake I was just saying that even in the Richards Bay game and the TS Galaxy game they faced similar well not as much attempts but attempts On Target were very similar so that’s why it seems like it’s the way that they want to play in these type of games but let me bring you agent agent welcome to the show my brother to say against Pirates if hotto had decided to score instead of pass it different be a strateg if if a four in a row at some point you have to say I care if you’re lucky that is your lucky for five games you’re lucky that’s what I’m trying to say it’s not a On’s off that they’re doing this so I’m not saying that it’s perfect and it’s the right thing I even said in my pre prematch thing that this is going to be a fight of how many times can Sundowns hit them until they open up but if if this is what they do four five six seven games they’ve had a couple of these games then you have to go oh maybe maybe maybe we may not understand it but it’s working kind of for them I don’t know um agent welcome to the show um good evening good evening J um I wasn’t here to analyze the game and talk on some taking points but I have to get in now you know um and I’m I’m going to be writing figuratively on AB how do you the word lck luck is something that happens by a coincidence you know once I would say I see it’s fake you know and I said the day and I don’t think people misunderstood me when I said I’m not had that much by this laws because I think it was meant to be you know and I think this is where abuu was coming from that it was meant to be you can’t say OT that it’s a a a a a a a way of playing it’s a strategy that pirates could have scored through could have equalized from 3 n yeah you know um K Chiefs also You Know Rich hasby also was by by also by the same thing also you know um you look at certain things and say it was written in the stars I think that’s the word that I used whatever you know some things like that hence even after the game I came with the sentiment that I’m not H that much by this game and I accepted graciously you know um it’s not luck it’s faith and it is Faith for you s I think you all people you know should know what is Faith and Fai and faith and like um because of other things that we W discuss here but um it was meant to be guys hence I’m not so then can you use the Fate argument for sown when it comes to games of consequence however they lose them it seems like then it’s fate yes um you know when something is not meant for you sh it won’t no matter how much it can happen you know um look at the only that I see we lost F square or the game that I see we lost F Square was against ESP you you know um they beat us fans Square clean you know um the Paris game the was magical piece actually you know I also take that and say that we deserve that one deserve to lose that one but other things like I don’t know people are saying they don’t believe in like just unfortunate if you can put that to hence I use the word it wasn’t meant to be you know so then as just no no no I just wanted to ask you on that point I mean we’ve sat here and spoken about the last 30 minutes of Sundowns games that yeah you you you’ve got you’ve gotten past it and maybe it’s not a cause of concern when it happens once or twice but now when it happens a couple of times and you’re winning you have to go hey Mar guys there’s going to be a day when you know you you you can’t you you haven’t scored you haven’t done enough on your end so is that a fate thing or can that be fixed you see that’s where we depart now from F and but this is a and it’s a that me and you alluded to that last 60 minutes we not we bringing Subs to increase the temple instead of maybe decreasing the temple you know and you asked a very important question and in retrospect you know people will say but you wrong I’m like no no you asked the question do you do I want it in this game and I said yes but but I’m the same person who we discussing with you that we have to DET the temple you know so the question asked why are you asking for a tennis match because with the intensity that we play for and I told you the reason why we drop off last 30 minutes is because of the intensity the T we play at is not sustainable so do you want to drag the game to extra time or do you want to risk it and try and finish the game in 90 minutes mind you have a game on Tuesday again yeah hence I said in this particular case I want a tennis game you see and I also don’t want to say reduce and say all the losses have been the same this loss is different from other losses you know um there are losses you know and a football fan would say it’s all losses but it’s not all losses it’s different you know um so hence we have to say we have lost three finals but this one particular in this one particular one it was meant to be it was you know we if I can ask you a question what would you have different in terms of the tactics on the day besides last 30 minutes because that you know it’s a concern what would you have done different um I think you should have forced rebero in the center a lot more can you still hear me yeah I know I can hear you um um you should have forced Ribero to the center a bit more and it’s not necessarily because of tactics it’s more because of the attitude of the player and the way that man when you give him time he tends to let go of stuff I would have asked rainers not to come Central because we’ve seen that in b baana games very early on when Bruce used to put him in sort of like a center role or making him come back that he kind of loses himself there um maybe keep him wide make shalu play a wider right role right and and focus on cutbacks Messi’s big weakness when they’ve looked most vulnerable in their last few games was players finding the by line and playing it back to the PE spot um they struggle you that defense that defense has no sense of um positioning very important in the in the grand scheme of things that you know you know sometimes maybe remember M also play for Sundowns you know maybe thinking that maybe they’re going to crowd me so let me try and Dr them out wide you know so I’m saying this wasn’t much to change you know except the last minutes that but in the Bigg RM of things I don’t think this is a type of loss that you see lost as the final no no I would never say that no no that’s not my point yeah no no I know it’s not your point I’m just saying you know sometimes you know when I want TR to I refer to you but I want to say this and as the last point on the game because like I said I wasn’t interested in talking about the game people are talking about Squad dep we shouldn’t have used the players and everything and that’s all I and I believe the big kahunas yeah um to to do that because you were preparing this team for two weeks you know but when I was still a f boy I used to play game called M I don’t know if you know it um used to have what you call whatever you go you’re losing you know um in English they say hat you win till I lose you know both ways you’re losing you don’t play remember what happened the last time you didn’t play BA players an outrage you see how unfair that that that argument is yeah you know and he lost with with his team yesterday what was going to be the argument today why didn’t he use bafana so and I say some arguments are arguments because they happen in hindsight you know but I just wanted to say two things actually that I’m a um the reason why I came to to come to come last was that I don’t want to analyze the game um I want to say the S have [Music] this sorry guys we lost let’s accept it you know and today I’m not going to be divisive um I know sometimes I’m really divisive um I remember you know in the book of Matthews um 11 you know um I think um who is the guy Moses has taken out people out of Egypt and after taking them and crossing the Red Seas and stuff like that um things happen and there hunger and his everything and the same people that he rescued from faroh you know um they begin to ask him why did you bring us out of Egypt we could have died peacefully there in Egypt you know so let’s not be like those guys who rescued from far and say our our previous oppressor was was better than you we should have left us with a previous oppressor you know um and legitimately though from those who are genu s fans Not the branch you know um I don’t blame you I don’t blame you even John himself man did I say Mark or I said Matthews I said Matthews man I said but I said exus man I want to go to Matthews ex I to go to Matthew sorry yeah Exodus now Matthews 11 sry I know I touch there but Matthews we meet John and John is saying to his disciples the man that I baptized and told is a messiah go back and ask him are you the Messiah that you’ve been expecting or we should look for another one so this is the question that we are facing on I told you that is the Messiah um I told you that you should trust the man but like like I’m asking that is the mAh or should we look for another [Laughter] Messiah because no but serious seriousness aside we have to to be frank I was H against R for losing important games so I have to remain with the same fairness yeah keep the same energy yeah say you have lost two two finals now or two two cups now you know are you the right guy or should we look for another guy you know and that’s a question I’m not saying he’s not the guy you know I’m not saying let fire him I’m saying questions are right to be asked about and questions has to be asked if you don’t make it to the sem finals or quarter finals of group stages will sometimes be justified to fire those are genuine questions I’m not saying especially especially after the statement that was made with the other guy I think that’s it becomes an issue you have to be fair on it you know so that’s what I wanted to say guys that um we to question but let’s support him until he proves us that he’s not the Messiah that we looking for and there’s another mess that is coming so thank you I just wanted to jump in guys and and and end of the show ttb show is going to be starting uh my thoughts are on YouTube Here’s my thing here’s my thing I think let’s not be unfair to imak however they got to the final they got to the final however they won the final they won the final and if it’s something that they stuck to their guns with and carried on doing this Chaz has not only been man of the match in this tournament I believe he’s been man of the match if not a couple of times in the league right this is what they’re coming with and they trusted themselves to go okay we will take your five shots or 10 shots and or 20 shots but we trust that when we get two shots we’re going to goal score in my pre-match in my pre-match uh preview I did say that imaki has two things they know how to suffer they know how to survive whether you call it luck whether you call it anything else they do it week in week out and then they trust themselves to go out and go score from the left hand side Chad puts in a cross and we can say that this is not Sundowns but we can’t say that it also was not parrots it also was not CHS it also was not t Galaxy it also was not Richard Bay at some point you have to look at the team and say maybe maybe they’re just really good at the thing that they do and we’re taking it for granted because they’re not a big team when you look at M swns this is this is all I’ll say when you look at M Sundowns I still feel like the fixing that happens at Sundowns was not fixing the problem I think Sundowns has had an issue in in hot games that there’s a bit of the the decision making sometimes goes out the window in terms of making the right subs or orientating the team into a the proper place so we argued about that with urani to say that urani when it’s lit last minute he Subs sometimes in in in in very important games I I want to make this point in very important games in the final versus pirates in a Champions League knockout game versus whoever it is Al Ali is Tunis it could be Yang it could be tip Mabe in those games of consequence it feels like Sundowns blinks and even in in these games coach Mana the way I was coming from with my criticism of Coach Mana was do you want to make it a race uh towards the end of games do you want to have every time you bring on your subs your subs are to up the tempo and because is running and this one’s running and N is running and that one’s running now Allen is alone in the Midfield and that’s where you see fine maruman lost but in the last 30 minutes I said it in that game that you got to watch out not necessarily for marumo Gans but if gons can be four four down or 3 n down at the time I don’t know what the score was and can look good in the last 30 minutes and can actually play and you’re giving them freedom and then you come to the game versus Chiefs the first one where um it’s it’s tiang tbang in the last 30 minutes and Chiefs can almost almost get something from that game maybe it is a place where you go I’m slowing down the game uh uh not because I’m giving up on the game whatever I’m slowing out down the game because that team is running at me now Pani city is running at me now we haven’t scored maybe we need to go hey guys it’s not our day let’s let’s slow the pace down keep the possession like we do with Ronan and play the ball out that way and maybe pounce on their mistakes other than creating chances for them to hit us Mak to their credit in the second half they pressed and they won the ball back very high there was a couple of places where they’d won the ball back and they were hitting you with that thing I spoke about last week with the three man counter and it may not score them goals and do all of the things but you cannot take for granted those type of things because when you get to the big game and you’ve got a team that is better than Mesi or better than marumo better than Chiefs better than all of those things you get to that point where you’re looking Al Ali in the eye in the Champions League semi-finals or ES ters in the Champions League semi-finals or whoever they’ve been playing all of these years and now it’s time for you to make the right choices those are the mistakes that are going to hurt you and I guess they’re unlucky in the fact that a lot of those wins are against the runoff play a lot of those wins come from Sundowns being in a very strong position to them being in a weak position but you can’t take those things for granted so I go back to the point where I say I think they fixed the wrong thing or their focus was on the wrong thing it wasn’t Sundowns needs to score more goals Rani Downs was not conceding in a balance was not conceding maybe low block was killing them at some point but it wasn’t Sun Downs getting beaten 2 N or 3 n it was Sundowns maybe losing out K last minute that team almost went invincible so now you bring Ina who’s going in and giving a lot s down box ENT is shooting all of that stuff but their risk is that okay said we’re going to go and do something there St B said ah we don’t we don’t care for that so nobody’s better the problem is still the same last 30 minutes can you outscore a team in 30 minutes can you out possession a team in last 30 minutes why are you conceding in that time that is the pattern that I’m focusing on and whether we speak about the different matches and there was a ref and there was a this and there was a this if I look on your record and it says you’ve played x amount of finals and you’ve lost all of them then I’m like oh you one one out of all of them then I’m like guys the record is the record Pirates can say the same thing they’ve won five trophies in two and a half years not all of them were clean not all of them were incredible but the record says they’ve won five the trophy room doesn’t say ah you came close there’s no trophies for second place so you have to try and fix something and I feel like they just focused on the wrong thing and going the long route with Coach to change everything it’s fine it’ll look good they’ll have their entries or whatever but if the main issue is still the main issue what have you fixed but anyway guys Umi two one winners they were able to win this um cup and Maki also actually Maki also proves to everybody else Sundowns aside you don’t need time you don’t need quality players you don’t need a million signings you don’t don’t need modern football and playing you don’t need all of those things to go win make sure that your plan has defensive rigidity whether you guys are speaking about being lucky whaton there’s going to be shots know of the match four times in a row our other plan to go the other way is going to be abso you’re going to go left you’re going to cross it in you’re going to score you’re going to hit a that blind run that abr’s hit was the same blind run that killed if I’m not mistaken so all I’m saying is to everybody was saying to me that ah how how can you face Sundowns and you you just going to go lose that game you can’t go there’s no plan you can make sh you guys um it’s been incredible please um follow if you have not followed I will be live tomorrow from 6 so we’re going to watch both games the Sundowns game and the Pirates game I think Sundowns at 6 Pirates at 9 we’re going to be live for that whole period watching those two games join me come in and analyze you know everybody gets to jump in we get to speak we get to do all of those things um and then it’s a really great time watching the watch alongs if you want any of my thoughts and to want see my content my content is on YouTube in full I drop videos I try drop almost every day so please support support support as content creators 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