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we’ve had something of a Renaissance with the pitch clock and some other innovations that have come about in recent years we’ve got some great star players a work stopage after 26 well you’d be cutting your own throat for stto yes he’s holding it up and it’s understandable that he’s holding it up it’s not a big deal we’re only at December 3D here but virtually every segment of the market is going to move after he signs and when I say that I’m talking of course about the outfielders like Hernandez and santand there we’re sort of goes will affect what they do even infielders like regman and adamus if the Yankees and Red Sox strike out on stto they could be in play for those two guys one or two of them and the starting pitching Market let’s say the Jay strike out on stto maybe they go get Corbin Burns or Max freed so there is this incredible domino effect that’s going to take place once he signs now we’re not there yet but I expect we will be there by the end of the winter meetings no later than that and one stto signs again some of these other moves will start to take place and when a guy is holding up the market the way we phrase that that’s the way this it works that’s the way free agency is and it’s just an order of events that is going to occur and it’s not as if again this is February and guys are just sitting there waiting this is proceeding actually in a at a pretty good Pace the soda negotiations and once that is a once there is resolution we’ll see some action can I I thought you’d be M of a baby it’s cold outside so but anyways uh SoDo Soo favorite right now I know everyone’s saying Mets Mets Mets but there’s some reports that the Blue Jays like much like Otani are willing to offer more money is that a real thing or is that just here save by Boris to try to get the market to keep going up I don’t know where it’s coming from exactly the Blue Jays are in there’s no question about that that’s their main focus at the moment the Red Sox are in it that’s their main focus at the moment now the reason most of us AJ including you and me believe that it’s going to be the Mets is because at the end of the day if Scott BS collects his offers and then goes to Steve Cohen and says all right here’s where we are Cohen has the wherewithal the resources to say all right we’ll go a little bit higher or maybe even a lot higher That’s The Logical thinking here it doesn’t mean that it’s going to take place that way maybe at some point Cohen says enough want to go about it this way maybe the Red Sox make a compelling case to stto they’ve got that great heritage of Dominican Superstars all kinds of things can take place Toronto I have a hard time seeing I’ve said that before here’s a team doesn’t have much of a farm system has some interesting young position players but there’s the potential maybe even the likelihood that Bo bashet and Vladimir Guerrero Jr leave as free agents after this season so I see them as a long shot we know the Dodgers are in there but the Yankees Mets Red Sox those to me are the three leading contenders here all right what obviously as our resident White Sox sufferer is Luis Robert on the trading block and will this affect the stto move at all if if say the Blue Jays don’t get Juan stto would they pivot I don’t know if they have the prospects to do it and go for a guy like Luis Robert because he’s very friendly team Money he’s got a couple years left and he when he’s healthy he’s a hell of a player yeah I’ve looked into this AJ wrote about it a little bit yesterday in our notes that we gathered at the athletic and essentially teams are saying other teams ah the white socks are asking too high and the white socks are saying we’re not really asking anything at all but we’re not going to take nothing for Luis Robert Jr now the problem with Robert is he hasn’t played that much in the last several years and last year was another injury marred season you’re right the contract is friendly AJ if he is healthy if he’s healthy and productive it’s 15 million next year then a $20 million option in 25 and then another $20 million option in 26 great if he’s healthy this is one of the most dynamic players who will step on the field but the question is will he stay healthy so the white socks what I’m told is they’re looking for one meaningful piece in the return doesn’t have to be multiple top prospects or anything like that but if no one is going to offer them anything more than say their 15th or 20th best Prospect they might as well keep him see what he does in the first half and then they could always trade him at the deadline now the risk there there is yes he gets hurt again but okay if he gets hurt again that’s a problem obviously but if you’re only getting the 15th or 20th best Prospect from an organization back it’s worth that risk teams are looking at Kay Holmes as possibly a starter is that is that cap his Market in the sense that if that’s out there only certain teams are willing or even have the roster flexibility to say Klay Holmes will be our starter but if it doesn’t work out we have other guys that we can we can put in there because if he says I’m a I’m a reliever that’s like 20 well whatever 25 teams that are actually trying but if you say I want to be a starter does that cap his team availability or where he probably probably should go or could go first of all Eric I don’t think it’s one or the other it sounds like he is open to both in fact he is open to both I heard that yesterday so if your hommes and teams are coming at you and saying we kind of think maybe you’re the Ronaldo Lopez or Seth Lugo or Jordan Hicks you’ll at least listen the difference is Lugo always had the capability of being a starter he had the pitches Lopez had been a starter Hicks had not and it kind of went okay last year I don’t know that it went great so if you’re Holmes you’re wondering okay can I really do this he was a starter in the miners of course but maybe your value and maybe you see yourself best as a reliever he’s staying open-minded he should stay open-minded of course and ultimately the decision will be his but it’s interesting that teams now are taking this approach where they look at certain relievers who have certain pitches and say you know what maybe that guy will be more effective as a starter and more valuable to us in that role hey Ken I want to jump to the AL Central I saw you write about with your athletic colleagues the Royals and the Guardians feel like this is a question that comes up often with teams like this will they do something really meaningful really impactful obviously they’re not playing for the woto market or most likely not even the sendera the tasar Hernandez Market but to me those kind of teams can make more noise and get those legit upsets going in the playoffs against a team like the Yankees if they have more Thumpers so do you think either of those teams will actually go that route I’m not sure the Royals are perhaps more active than the Guardians have been and we’ve seen the Royals do some things this off season already they signed waca back and they traded for Jonathan India now they’re looking for one more bat as we reported and ideally they want that bat to be as powerful and productive as possible no they’re not going to play at the top of the market I don’t expect them to even be in the santand OR Hernandez markets as you say but perhaps they can make a trade perhaps they can do something else along those lines under JJ Picolo they have been aggressive this is two straight off Seasons now where we have seen them step out and do do some things the Guardians are in their usual spot where they don’t have a lot of money to spend they might have to trade someone to clear some money if they’re going to do anything at all they like their team as they should that team had an amazing year last year but they’re going to listen on Josh Naylor and Lane Thomas guys like that because once players like that start making more money they’ve got man zardo sitting there who could conceivably replace Naylor then the Guardians like the rays are always going to be in that mode where they’re going to listen and maybe act on that particular player so I don’t see them being as aggressive in the market but they have been trying to do some things they did try for Matthew Boyd bringing him back for example obviously they got outbid so we this comes up real often right now you know salary cap you just said about the Guardians not really being able to do too much if we have a salary cap everyone wants the salary cap to keep the Dodgers down what Guardians have to sell their team and leave the city of Cleveland if we got the salary floor because if that’s the case then okay then you can cry pity for the guardians but if they would still be able to come under that like in that where the floor is of a salary cap then they have the money to spend it right now well Eric first of all the way I just described that scenario that’s the way they are operating right now I’m not saying whether that’s the right thing to do I would like to see more spending by a lot of teams and the Guardians are one of them but let’s face it in reality they aren’t in the same type of Market as Los Angeles so we cannot expect them to spend at the same level no matter how wealthy their owners are the revenues just don’t support it now the cap question is really complicated but you’re right if a cap was instituted it would be accompanied by a floor and I don’t know that the union is ever going to agree to this kind of thing they want the free market system my point on a cap would be okay I get why the players don’t want it free market is what all players should want in every sport at the same time is there a number a percentage of the revenue where the players would be more intrigued and if the owners want a cap usually these things it’s 50 to 55% of the revenue goes to the players well maybe the players get a little bit more in baseball because they’re agreeing to it I don’t know how this is going to go down in the next couple of years grean expires after the 2026 season December 1 2026 I’m not saying the players should take a cap but if the owners are going to keep pushing this all right push the limits here give us 60% give us 65% the owners would never do that but maybe there is a number where the players would be willing to say that works now the problem with this whole thing is that the players don’t trust the owners to report their revenues properly and that’s not going to get off the ground so if the owners push for a cap what I see coming is a work stoppage and that would be the worst thing for this sport at this time we’ve had something of a Renaissance with the pitch clock and some other innovations that have come up out in recent years we’ve got some great star players a work stoppage after 26 well you’d be cutting your own throat Ken what you said first of all there’s a couple things one what you just said about the the cap is the problem there’s other leagues that have this cap and now they’re fighting because they don’t think the owners are are producing the correct Revenue numbers to make sure that that number is in the right spot so there’s a bunch of there’s a bunch of kind of lawsuits going around about that but you know hey whatever we’ll see that hopefully it doesn’t happen MLB I’m just saying real quick because they’ll there are so many things these are real estate dealss now too for team so that it will not work and the way they cook the books is you know they they they Count Their baseball stuff and then their parking’s over here and their concessions are over here it’s a show they move it all around this is a this is a huge point you guys are making it’s huge it’s a key thing in the whole equation the players don’t want a cap to begin with they are philosophically opposed to a cap and I understand that they want the free market they want the market to operate as it operates now players get as much as they can and owners give them what they give them so that’s the biggest obstacle the philosophical opposition which is understandable if we ever got to the point where the players were at least willing to listen to cap proposals what you guys are saying would be the number one problem the distrust that exists between the two parties from the players to the owners in this case would make this almost impossible to imagine okay well that takes me to my next question Ken the owners and and Rob Manford can change rules whenever he wants the the honestly the players really have no say in it so in a couple years the golden bat here we go the golden at bat you get The Bases Loaded in the seventh inning Rob Manford brought it up I’ve been hearing about this for a while from people that I know why not why not try this I mean listen you you know you go you go to let’s we’ll use La they got to choose between show mookie Freddy Will Smith Max Muny whoever else they have in their lineup it’s a Bas is loaded depending on the matchup in the seventh inning oh show hey you just were intentionally walk guess what you get to come hit again and hit with the Bas is loaded I mean I don’t know I’ve I’ve been hearing about this for a while I’ve thought about it there’s some part of me that’s like it’d be kind of cool but there’s also part of me as a purist it’s like this is absolutely freaking ridiculous I’m with you AJ I’m with you the way my instinct is that it’s not baseball it’s not the way the game has been played for 100 plus years and I just have a problem with it from that perspective now you could say Ken a pitch clock is not baseball expanded bases were not baseball all the different rules that have been implemented in recent years were not baseball until they were implemented and that’s fair that Innovation is always difficult to accept change is always difficult to accept this this one to me just goes a little bit too far now Jason Stark in that article which I recommend everyone read because he really lays out both sides of this extremely well he has quotes from players all kinds of people and he also has different ways that this could be implemented one way would be where it would only be available I think in the ninth inning when a team is trailing that might be the way to do it if you want to do this but to me I just feel like strategically your work in order as a pitcher a certain way and I know the strategy would come into play because you’d be fearing Otani coming up at any time in the ninth or the eth whenever but I just feel it’s a little bit too much for me it it’s just too far and I’m all for exploring different ideas things that will make the game better this one to me just strikes me as again extreme there you go a lot of people were anxious to hear your take it’s a good long article I read it last night from Jason Stark Ken’s League it includes feedback from Executives players Etc so go check it out I’m sure you’ll get a question for it on Fair territory later this week so Ken thank you good to see you thanks guys hey everybody be sure to like And subscribe for more content we’re back here every weekday all year long so do not miss an episode the videos are coming in all day here’s another video you might enjoy baseball the way it should be covered [Music]
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