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[Music] welcome to Andy and Arian 3 presented by Wendy’s we are in College Station but we have to talk about what happened in Columbus sori I didn’t believe it could happen that guy didn’t believe it could happen that scared me you know what scares me I think joh I think Ryan day is John Cooper He’s cursed what gave it away Andy he’s cursed it has to be a curse well you know what there’s two ways of looking at this one is you’re cursed or two there’s something about your temperament as a coach in this POS in this situation where you don’t do it right and you know the the thing that that stands out to me is that you know the the shots of him on the sideline throughout the game the fans in the stadium there was a tightness around Ohio State whenever they play this game and it accumulates and it gets worse year over year over year and I was going to write a column and I talked to you about this when I first got hired and even this past week about how it doesn’t matter what the situation is for uh the spread or the talent Gap or all these things that if you are mentally tight yeah that this could happen and I didn’t write it because the spread was 20 points and I did not expect for the biggest upset in the Rivalry since 1996 and all the way back to 1969 and Andy there’s a lot to unpack here in terms of what this means for Ryan Day what this means for the Ohio apologize to everybody I could not have been more wrong where there’s a clip of me on the internet saying oh it I’m normally a throw out the record books kind of person I’m normally anything can happen in a rivalry game kind of person but Ohio State’s going to clobber Michigan they’re going to take out three years of frustration I could not have been more wrong holy crap yeah no there it’s a and it’s a question that you have to ask here is how does Ohio State move forward with a coach with a Michigan problem you know and the thing that’s interesting about this new playoff system because this is the worst version of Michigan they’re going to see and this is supposed to end your season yeah and a lot of people in Columbus probably feel like it is over and rightfully so if you lose you know there’s not a lot of thought that they’re going to go on and do new things but they’ve got to regroup now after missing the Big 10 championship game and try their best to you know put themselves in a position to regroup but like I don’t know how you do it man I I don’t know how you do it and like what does Ryan Day have to do from a coaching standpoint to even win this team back this program back this fan base back like you know and I know that they were close after losing to Michigan a few years ago beating Georgia and potentially Moving on but like they couldn’t even get a first down in that game I don’t even know how you can begin to even think about whether or not they can salvage anything this year I tweeted when they threw the pick but Michigan backed up on their own goal line I’m like just just keep thinking what would Kirk ference do like that’s all you gotta play and and and the Ohio State fans point out yeah just play Trestle ball yeah they couldn’t even do that yeah you know and it’s like you’re playing against a team that isn’t good like last three years Ohio State lost to Michigan teams Ohio state was very Talent ented and very good too but you lost to the Michigan teams that were also very good and of course one last year went on to win the national championship so you can wrap your mind around it that was the worst team Ohio state has lost to during his leadership period yes like period right not just Michigan games like that team was not a very good team so like that is a that isn’t like well what can they do to make their roster better how much money can you go spend on NL or what the repair is like that is like what is rotten in the building causing this to happen why does this game this team have over you what hold does it have and I’m not like is it crazy talk because I don’t know I’ve always said Ryan day is fine whatever it was just a bad stretch but now I’m looking at it like this is a real problem this is not going away this version of Michigan is the worst one he’s going to see the rest of his career probably Michigan is dead Ser deadly so what do you do if you’re Ryan day what do you do if you’re Ohio State like I’m and the thing is what makes this weirder is Ohio State is gonna make the playoff yeah they’ve beaten Penn State they’ve beaten Indiana they’re a two- lost team they’re gonna make the playoff they’re not going to make the big 10 championship game no no Penn State’s going now for those keeping score at home and that’s the thing it’s like there’s nothing’s going to happen tomorrow they’re going to play out their season and we’ll see how it goes but you know they just went from potentially being the one or the five seed to maybe the nine seed because if you want to start like I was telling they’re on the road now yeah I was telling Andy during the game that I’m having a hard time like compartmentalizing what the playoff picture looks like with all these floating results yeah but if you want to start scrutinizing Ohio State’s resumee against some of the other teams that are uh you know out there with two losses like that’s fair game at this point now they have two wins against Indiana and Penn State that’ll probably make them safely in at this point I don’t know if they’re out but in terms of seating they might be down in the eight 9 10 range so you know that that is inexcusable we just watch here in Texas Roadhouse like there is no like people want answers for me let me look at you in the camera let me look at you in the camera sometimes in this sport it doesn’t matter how many hours I think about it how many hours I analyze it we talk about it yeah I study it I gamble on it I think about it I play the video game it’s literally the thing that I think about most in my entire life outside of My Wife and Kids I don’t know what the hell I’m talking about sometimes like you watch that game and it’s like what analysis can I have given you before I tried Lev the level of certainty that I gave you on Monday about this game the level of certainty because how in the hell could that have possibly happened think about how many assumptions that we make on a day-to-day basis about what’s going to happen in these games and it’s like the only analysis I could offer you earlier in the week is they get tight if they get tight and the and the team starts to take on the temperament of the coach and the fans get nervous this this can build on it maybe what happened I didn’t think it mattered how tight you were when you’re that much more talented that’s what I’m saying and then the other thing too is like Michigan scored 13 points can we talk about this Ohio state did not score points well and remember the remember the stat they threw up yeah in the middle of the game it’s probably in the third quarter like Michigan scoring drives at that point had had encompassed six plays in five yards now Michigan did start to move the ball and that’s that’s the crazy thing this could have been worse like imagine Davis Warren puts a little bit of arc on that ball when they had the perfect play call on a guy wide open in the end zone and he just threw it a little short and it gets picked yeah like this could have been way worse yeah yeah so you know you saw those shots of him on the sideline of day he looked like he’d seen a ghost dog died I don’t like I don’t know like it was just a person who is and it it reminded me and I was a kid during the 90s so like I but I’ve I’ve being on the beat for 10 years I’ve gone back and watched a lot of those 90s if one more person does that get used to it you’re a celebrity now yeah I don’t think that’s why they’re honking Andy uh the temperament of John Cooper on the side you know that yeah it’s like a ghost like and it’s like they’re making the game bigger than it is the hiring of Chip Kelly was supposed to help with stuff like this where you have the experienced you know old head guy who’s been a head coach in all these big games who you can lean on did did we think the play calling was spectacular in that game no no no and and like I don’t know if they should have ran the ball less and thrown it more but like Andy even with the game on the line 45 seconds what did I keep saying to you what did I keep I kept saying oh here’s where they throw it to Jeremiah Smith or AA bua and they shake a tackle and they run for 80 yards and it never freaking happens game I played with myself for the last three years oh here comes the big play how are they going to cover Jeremiah Smith CER oh what is it because the the computer went all right okay we’re back back we’re back uh it’s not just the thing that is interesting is I’m gonna write a column when we get to Kyle Field which by the way is going to be electric I’m going to write a column about this and I’ve been trying to think about it piece it together in my head Andy and there’s no punt call that they should have gone for it there’s no dropped pass that there’s not one play because you could it was the entire you can’t blame the kicker for missing kicks yeah it’s just like the entire game was just one big Sleepwalk days of of of being afraid and like that is a reflection of the coach there’s no ni deal uh nil deal to be made there’s no assistant to hire right there’s there’s no like last year it’s like okay well we’ll bring everybody back we’ll do everything that Michigan did and we’ll put ourselves in a position to be really good next year it’s like how much better in this era could you make a team from a talent perspective been calling him a super team all year there’s nobody else call him super team this morning when we were driving down here there’s nothing else to do yeah like what what do you do so like the thing is well okay so let’s ask the question because now we we’ve said it’s not crazy talk if you are Ryan day should you look for something else after this season if you are Ohio State should you encourage him to look for something else after this season so here’s I know that sounds insane but yeah and I need I need to make some calls probably but Ryan day does 90% of the job right he gets players he puts together a staff more often than not they make the playoff I don’t know if you can fire him now you can’t fire him the only way this works is if he decides I don’t want to do this anymore and he gets another job so if he wants to take another job maybe Ryan day is a very competitive person yeah okay I don’t know that he like for the temperament that he had in that game like knowing people in his family and where he grew up and I’ve known the man for a decade I can’t imagine that he would just be like I quit I don’t want to do I I agree like I don’t think he would want to go out like that and then if you’re Ross Bor in Ohio State do you say listen they also have make this painless for all of us well Ro Ross bork from a place was here was was just here that set buyout records so so you know I don’t know that he’s afraid to make a drastic switch I also don’t know if six months into your tenure you can fire your head coach when they’re you can’t I just don’t think you can fire Ryan Day based on what he’s done but I just wonder and I know it sounds stupid but I just wonder if this just isn’t the right thing for him yeah no and maybe he goes somewhere else and he’s Ultra successful because he doesn’t have this one thing looming over him 365 days a year yeah so there’s really no game to break down it’s temperament and coaching and all that stuff yeah it feels like it all happened over the week yeah it didn’t happen this over the last three years yeah you win the first one in 19 okay you lose the first one in 2020 okay or 2021 after covid yeah okay it happens you can’t win every single year then when you win lose the second one yeah that’s when it becomes a problem and now that team owns real estate in and around Briant Ryan day’s brain so how do you fix that he’s going to have to look himself in the mirror and try to figure that out but and it’s so strange because he he worked for Urban Meyer yeah and and Urban Meyer is interesting because a lot of coaches have the nameless faceless opponent philosophy that’s I most good coaches tend to have that Urban Meer was very different among good coaches he was like no rivalries are special we will treat rivalry special but he always treated them special in a way that made his teams better in the Rivalry game yeah and it’s it’s almost like you you can’t do that unless you’re him you kind of have to go nameless faceless opponent if you’re somebody else yeah well like also two you don’t win the game being nameless fa that’s not how Ohio State works so you know if if Ryan day would have been on his opening press conference what do you think of the Michigan game uh we just going to treat every game like they would have ran him out of town the second he said that so like I don’t know didn’t bother it didn’t bother Alabama fans with Nick sa s about Auburn yeah I guess I don’t know I don’t think they care if you win the game if you don’t win the game they care maybe he should try that next year but like at the same time too we’re gonna be here in 365 days Michigan may be a 10 win team maybe we’ll be maybe we’ll be there maybe be in an arbor because you know because it’s like that was the thing too of like where we’re deciding where to be today I think this is the only option we never thought about going to Columbus because we never assumed it would be a close game but yeah like that’s the the the real tricky part is how you even fix that and that there’s no real answer to it so um yeah I I’m I can’t wait to cook I can’t wait to get over to Kyle Field that was a really good game we had Texas Roadhouse rolls not a sponsor wish they were yeah uh I feel like now’s your chance Texas Roadhouse get on board we have a Andy got to my house last night we went to Heim barbecue I thought we were going to have a nice leisurely night eight over times later wat wri and cols about the SEC at midnight waking up at 6:00 a.m forgetting my losing my wallet like all these things have happened today think think about this we have the eight overtime Georgia Georgia Tech game we have the Ohio State Michigan game there’s still two windows left on Saturday I can’t wait I can’t wait to get over to Kyle Field it’s my first Kyle Field experience I think it’s gonna be a really good day to to experience it for the first time but I’m going to be uh buried in the laptop when we get there for a few hours it’s gonna be electric electric talk thanks for being here guys [Music]
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