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[Music] what up everybody and Happy Thanksgiving week as we get set to stuff our faces on Thursday we are so happy to be with you here today on this Monday afternoon I am Alana Rizzo back with you um my guy is Clint paas there he and uh uh Scott gearan was it did a great job uh the other day when I was gone so I appreciate you guys uh pinch hitting for me um Clint you’re always here but I appreciate Scott for Pinch hitting as well thanks for being here our viewers our listeners make sure you guys like us subscribe uh to give us five stars all of the things not only on the YouTube machine but also wherever you get your podcast all right my friend let’s get into the big ticket let’s do it all right so we’re not going to start with Dodgers news but it kind of trickles down to the Dodgers right let’s talk about the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim if you will signing signing usay Kikuchi to a uh supposed um $63 million deal that’s over the course of three years John Heyman reporting that its $20 million a year should boost the fortunes of Frontline pitching comps most notably Shawn maniah who obviously is no longer with the Mets I mean he could go back there but he’s not beholden to them anymore but likely also srino flarity avaldi pavetta ber ber Snell Burns and freed will be well above of course so let’s talk about that how this affects uh the Dodgers because obviously Clint the angels are not in the Dodgers division we know that they’re not even in the same league but they are Rivals correct I mean figuratively and literally not in the same league so let’s talk about how this God bless you my friend um how this may affect uh butane uh is this this type of deal you think Walker ber will get threee to 63 million seems a little bit steep in your estimation for Walker no this is this is definitely not the realm that Walker is looking for I don’t even think that he would he would want a deal in that range right now like like three years I think what we’re kind of expecting and we’ve talked about it a decent amount here in the offseason so far here in this show of course on my show as well ber I I can’t see a world where he doesn’t do some sort of one inone type of uh contract maybe it’s one year um 15 to18 million with some incentives and some sort of mutual option you know he’s still G to get he he he in a best case scenario maybe he’s getting somewhere in like a $25 million range because let’s not forget Walker berer when he was healthy uh you know in 2021 was very good he finished second in sa Young award voting there in the National League you saw what he did in the postseason when he’s right like he told us uh well he indirectly told everybody at mukie BET’s house drunk off his ass uh partying for the World Series after the fact he said right now well his voice was little more messed up but I’m a problem right now Walker is feeling good this is a new version of Walker bu and you know he’s he’s 30 now he ultimately he you need to have a one-year kind of pro it deal so he can go out there and try to get himself a bag because let’s go back if he was a free agent after the 2021 season there’s a fair chance he’s looking at a 200 million deal I mean that’s the type of picture that Walker ber was from when he first stepped foot in that Dodger starting rotation up through that 21 season he wants to get back to that we know Walker wants to be viewed as one of the best pitchers in baseball so great deal for Kikuchi I don’t know what the angels are trying to do I appreciate Ken Rosenthal on on Fair today talking about what the hell the angels are trying to do and nobody really knows but they’re paying that that angel tax a little bit to try to get some pictures try to get some players but Walker is going to get a one-year proen deal and um hopefully it’s with the with the you know the LA Dodgers do you think this is a type of move though that could affect maybe the Dodgers thinking or maybe reset the market uh a little bit higher than we were at anticipating at this point in the in the winter well let’s remember that they did not offer Walker beer qualifying offer which would have been 21.5 million or whatever it was so I do think that Walker beer wants a multi-year deal the do are not going to give him a multi-year deal at 21 million a year but that being said look at what teoscar Hernandez did I mean teoscar Hernandez bet on himself took a one-year deal wanted to be in La wanted to play with a contender and he could very much parlay that into something special so maybe Walker does take like a one-year 2324 million deal and then he can parlay that into something bigger I do think though that Walker wants to stay in LA right so perhaps they can work something out that maybe it’s not a you know a threee fouryear deal but what do you think if you’re putting on your GM hat okay what’s your limit in terms of money and years um to bring him back knowing they have Clint other business to take care of it’s not just a walker bu Frontline starter issue I mean even though this team won the World Series right you can always get better and not every single person’s coming back so if you’re bringing Walker back what are you bringing him back under I again I think it’s got to be fair to both sides and it’s a one-year deal uh something where if he proves it if he’s kind of that Walker of old or whatever the new version of Walker bu is um in the regular season then he wants something where he can go out and get himself a whole bunch of money for a whole bunch of years next winter but right now you got a few names out there a few you know upper echelon uh pitchers with Corbin burns with Blake Snell uh just below him in my opinion is like a Max freed so if Walker wants to come back um I I think it’s going to be something where again it’s going to be in that 15 to 18 range with some incentives that can get it somewhere closer to you know 21 maybe 23 25 or something like that the Dodgers will pay but they just want to make sure I think both sides want to make sure that there’s some protection built in there we’ve seen the Dodgers do you know the incentive uh kind of lad in contracts in the past last last year with James Paxton I think Kershaw you know had one um opted out of his his 2023 or didn’t take the the or whatever point is Walker wants to come back I think wherever he goes ends up being a one-year deal with an option obviously um everyone’s kicking the tires on everybody that’s a free agent uh you know there’s rumor that there’s mutual interest between Walker bu and the New York Yankees which would be ironic considering he uh you know recorded the final out against the New York Yankees in the World Series greatest moment ever for him like the outr outstretched arms like I am still here I am back whatever it was Walker beer has never lacked confidence um certainly but you know what you uh and and Scott had a great conversation the other day um about what it’s gonna take actually you and Jeff Spiegel rather I apologize um about the state of the staff for the Los Angeles Dodgers assuming that Walkers not part of it next year this is who the Dodgers have coming back and kind of where they are in the process so thank you for Jeff uh for doing the leg workk on this but I know this is a conversation that the two of you had and Yoshi Noble Yamamoto he’s healthy thank goodness Tyler glas now looks to be on an African safari right now based on his Instagram but he’s coming off of injury and he’s expected to be ready for opening day you can go down the list obviously shohi coming off that injury of that subluxation of the shoulder not necessarily certain when he’s coming back but listen for the better part of the year I think Shi is going to be ready right Tony gonin coming off injury uh you you can see Dustin may all the things all the way down the list of guys in terms of where they at they are at in the process of coming back so if you look at this the current state of the pitching on the 40 man how confident do you feel about the strength of the Dodgers pitching staff as a whole oh that’s a tough one and this is what makes me I I think I feel as neurotic about it as you felt for most of this season when you come to the starting pitching because yeah I’m going to throw that that graphic back up because there’s a lot of names on there there’s absolutely a lot of names but there are more question marks and and when you’re looking at some of this you know Gavin Stone out for the season Kyle hurt will be out for the SE Season River Ryan most likely out for the season and when when you get to depth and and we know how baseball works you need a whole bunch of depth to make it through 162 games and Yamamoto had the shoulder issue glas now again didn’t even finish the season Otani now probably not ready for opening day um gonlin is somebody I talked about on my channel on on Friday I I wonder if a lot of us are kind of sleeping on Tony gonin he was an All-Star in 2022 but to go imagine right now entering opening day with Tony gonin as your number three guy there it’s just it’s not a very comforting feeling knowing that he’s there he had you know he’s coming off Tommy John uh Dustin may in that mix and he’s coming off of everything apparently he needs to learn how to chew a little bit more whatever the story was um they need to add some esophagus man that esophagus will get you every time you gotta watch that thing you gotta be very careful with the esophagus you and yeah so this is the point where you’re at though you you need to add some arms I’m hoping it’s Blake Snell uh you know you got some trade routes we know uh people looking at the thumbnail uh people looking at the Titleist video people watching any content right now we know the Dodgers are going to be busy we know they’re talking to just about everybody uh we’ve seen the reports and rumors and we’ll get into rumors more Rumors in just a little bit but we know they’re in on Snell uh they’re they’re in on burns and all that and they have a a you know firm understanding they they have a better version of this sheet that we do and they understand that they need one more Frontline guy and probably a little bit more depth to make it through and try to go back and repeat and and you know if I’m a Dodger fan right now which I am um I’m I’m sitting here watching the Angels kind of make the first big splash of the off season um I don’t know I want to see the Dodgers start to do something I mean you got some guys that need to come back Teo uh Blake Tran what’s going on here what do you think uh I mean we know Andrew fredman he’s going out on vacation right now are things going to start picking up next week and just before the win win meetings like like every other winter meetings I think that Juan stto and Scott Boris hold the cards once that once that Domino Falls and all the other dominoes will start to fall but before we listen the what we just that list that we just put up is not including anybody that Andrew fredman is gonna sign okay there it’s gonna be a better starting pitching staff and really a starting staff all the way through to the end of the bullpen better than what that graphic suggests okay you mentioned the angels we mentioned them a couple of times because of Kikuchi and by the way Kenny Chung saying thinks that Kikuchi is a $15 million type of pitcher I kind of agree with that but for whatever reason good for him he got 21 million um as far as that is concerned but let’s talk about the angels for a hot second because yeah regardless of the fact that again they’re probably not going to be that competitive in the AL West they’re not going to be the same type of team as the Dodgers they’re at least spending some money and I kind of feel like the angels are taking a page out of what the Kansas City Royals did a couple years ago right you lose a hundred games and in the offseason you actually spend some money what a novel concept ownership you spend some money and then you start to win some games you know and you get you know you you almost get you know deep you know into the postseason or whatever you have some really good players to to build a team around allaha Bobby Whit Jr um I’m a little surprised that they let Brady singer go but whatever the point is the angels are spending money like the Royals did a couple of years ago so if you look at what they’ve done not only are they getting Kikuchi but they got Travis darno again I’m not saying these are high level talented players but they’re sufficient players okay they got Kyle Hendrick from the Cubs they got got um soled you know they’ve got a couple yeah they’ve got a couple of other guys so they’ve got about five or six signings right now in the offseason does this change your opinion of the Angel’s ability to compete in 2025 I know you love this team with all your heart no listen it depends on your definition of compete um you know there’s there’s a Dodger definition of compete which is go out there and grind and give your team you know five or six Innings and then there’s the the Angel’s definition of compete which is hopefully you can get to a 500 record you know by the time you get through 162 I’ll say this I love on the Angels whenever I get a chance to I I appreciate uh GM Perry manzian working with what he is able to work with working with what Arty Mareno is allowing them to do because Arty Mareno god- awful owner terrible person when it comes to owning a baseball club um but he’s actually having an opportunity he’s getting a chance to to make some moves do something to make that club a little bit better I love the darno Edition for them because they got a young catcher there in in Logan ohappy that needs a veteran leader to kind of guide him through uh they added another guy former Dodger farmand Ryan Nota maybe play some first base they’re not committing they’re not even committing to Mr Hollywood himself Mr Hollywood lifestyle Anthony rendone they’re saying hey you got to come in and earn a job so maybe there’s a little bit of a change at the guard there um but to the question like signing ever are the Angels a serious ball Club right now not yet no not yet all right that’s fair all right we don’t have to waste any more time on Dodgers territory talking about the Angels one thing I do want to talk about is our friends at baseballism I am sporting one of the uh baseballism hats that uh was created to benefit my Foundation G’s Guardian Foundation you can see the dockon with the baseball uh you obviously have the VIN microphone on your lid I love that very much uh baseballism we appreciate uh what you guys do and by the way you guys they’re having a massive sale right now check out the new Dodgers championship gear we’ love this there’s an early bird sale you know the whole Black Friday type of situation but you can get this right now 30% off Statewide sitewide no code necessary how about that just go 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to be a free agent after 2025 why not I mean why not lock him up now Clint I mean I think this is a guy that obviously is incredibly versatile um he can play all over the place he’s from California he’s obviously uh incredibly gifted uh why not lock him up now and and perhaps um you you have him for a longer term deal and maybe this is the post C era I mean I believe that Chris Taylor uh has one more year before he’s a free agent so maybe maybe they’re looking beyond that yeah this is the time to start looking uh you know beyond 2025 and I think that’s exactly what this team is doing what this front office is doing uh Tommy Edmond was a guy that this this front office in particular identified as you know piece they wanted on their roster for quite some time finally able to land that deal last year and we saw the fit we saw the fit it worked so well uh Tommy Edmond Dodgers just a match made in heaven um so to be able to to get some sort of contract extension going whether it’s two three four years whatever it is he’s he’s in a prime you know prime age to keep him around keep him locked up we know he can play a a very solid uh Short Stop he’s a gold glove Award winner at second base he can play a phenomenal center field as well an area where you are super thin as an organization so to have him and I like what you said there the idea that this is sort of potentially The Changing of the Guard in the Kik Hernandez ct3 utility era you could be if they bring back Kik which is another guy we haven’t really talked a whole lot about I believe they do need to bring back Kik but Chris Taylor now somebody with one year left on that deal uh if there’s a club that needs a veteran that’s kind of been there done that maybe this is the time where they they start trying to figure out a trade in some sort of offset of bad contracts or whatever but uh next year will be the final year at most will be the final year of Chris Taylor and dodger blue and hopefully you know the second year of a long long partnership between the Dodgers and Tommy Edmond but I love I love the idea love hearing that they’re working yeah I’m not sure that ct3 is a tradable piece I’m not certain that there’s a team that’s going to want to take on that contract but uh that being said I think you lock in Tommy Edmond now before he gets more expensive right like before he gets to play an entire year and he’s you know shows you what he can do lock him in now and then that’s good for both sides I think there’s something to be said about security I mean does that say anything though about the the shortstop Market if Tommy Edmund ex sign you know signs an extension right now I mean it’s not a very strong shortstop market like it was you know last year two years ago that type of situation and furthermore what does this mean for luxie I mean we keep talking about perhaps luxie is a tradable piece because he doesn’t come with the price tag that ct3 does yeah I mean Gavin Lux is in a real good spot to either stay with the team or be moved in a trade he’s still cheap uh I think when we saw him right when he saw the swing right last year he proved that he can still get it done at the big league level and there should be some organizations out there that kind of maybe you know have have a little bit of the hots for Gavin Lux if he is somebody that’s that’s uh being traded uh with Ed I I don’t know that this affects like the shortstop thinking or Market too much because I don’t know that he is a full-time shortstop maybe you know giving giving him an offseason to to really work on it uh you know Focus his his Craft on shortstop you know refining the game there maybe that helps because obviously he was kind of just you know thrown into the ringer there during the World Series where he did become the NLCS MVP oh is that is that all is that all he was the N nothing big nothing big nothing important but I you know if the Dodgers don’t land Willie adamus I believe they’re in a good spot um whether they are trying to put Lux at se at shortstop having him work there or whether they they swing some sort of trade or whether it is a platoon or whatever it is of Edmund and of course Miguel roas coming back um but I you know I think adamus is still like kind of the guy they’re reaching for oh God yes I mean of course I would I would I would love to have adamus in the middle of that INF field with um you know obviously Mook bets there at second base coming in from right field would you like to have Cody Bellinger back Fair territory with our wonderful friend Ken Rosenthal said that the Cubs have interest in moving him um do you want him back and in what capacity listen I’ll I’ll do it this way we talked about we talked Linda Linda Linda listen we talked about this on on my channel last week and and it it always elicits a lot of commentary from the fans um I will say I’m firmly of the the belief that the best ver best ERA of Dodgers and Cody Bellinger has long pasted that is not some sort of breaking news statement there however if I don’t think the Dodgers are in on Juan stto ultimately they’re not in on Juan stto but if you don’t get stto and you don’t get you’re not able to you know resign teoscar Hernandez which would be just the Flop the fail of the offseason if you don’t get teao back then you need to start exploring you need start looking at different trade routes because you know if we had if we had a list that you know talking about the Outfield depth situation yeah I mean the team hopes they’re able to to move uh Prospect Dalton rushing to left field but you know at some point but it’s not going to be an opening day uh Andy P has very good player when he’s right when he’s engaged but he would right now you know if Tommy Edmonds are starting shortstop Andy P has is a starting center fielder And mukie Betts is an infielder now so you need some help on the infield when Cody’s right when he’s engaged and when we’ve seen him play a phenomenal right field in the past uh the legs are slowing down a little bit for center field I don’t this the longer we go I go around on this I feel like I’m trying to talk myself into it I I think if things fall a certain way yes you can look at a Cody Bellinger reunion I don’t know that it’s the right call though what’s uh what’s what do you feel about I don’t think you can create the magic that was that 2017 through 2019 team you know uh or 2020 team I think I mean I there are certain guys I would have liked back at a certain point like I would have liked to have never let Justin Turner go do I necessarily want JT back as our third baseman or DH that doesn’t fit anymore right um so the Kik I always want back and I don’t care if it just starts October 1st um you know there’s certain guys that make sense but I don’t think belly at this point makes sense and and carnivorous lunar activity wants to know why there’s so much Buzz with the damus because he sucked in Tampa look at what done for Milwaukee and then let come back to me uh and and and talk about why adamus is creating the buzz um Willie adamus I think would be a great addition I think he’d fit in nicely uh to what the Dodgers uh want to do okay before we move on here I have to ask you um uh I know you’re doing this tongue and cheek and I swear to God I thought I missed something because when you were like oh Andrew fredman won the offseason I was like my man Clint my my my homie my uh co-host has lost his ever living mind won the offseason but obviously viously you were joking um but there’s something to be said about signing a guy like this right Giovanni G goes to a Minor’s contract now there’s something about the Dodgers that allows people to be themselves and kind of reinvent themselves do you like this signing obviously we know that you’re being factious here but do you like this for any reason well I’m being I’m being tongue and- cheek because it’s obviously inous because it’s obviously not the uh the signing everybody was hoping the Dodgers were going to make this off seon but however it’s a very very good signing because in the past this dude gyos has been a very very good reliever he was a you know closer at different points in time for the St Louis Cardinals and if there’s anybody if there’s anybody in the world that has just a little bit of talent the Dodgers can find a way to fully unlock it so you get this guy it’s it’s the ultimate of a byy low um you know lowrisk High reward deal you you need to replace a Dan Hudson in your Bullpen you need to fill some Innings uh that bruar graterol won’t be taken for the first half of the Season you know River Ryan’s out Kyle hurt is out uh you still don’t have Blake Tron so you add somebody that has some upside had some Talent had a very nice run uh you know I think it was what 19 2019 through 2022 gyos post posting an ER around three uh 284 just put the numbers together right here uh well technically baseball reference did but even so it’s it’s a great signing knowing that it doesn’t affect anything it’s a minor deal it’s what the Dodgers do and it’s what Andrew Friedman does best you don’t win championships you don’t win 100 games most seasons without these type of moves without your Evan Phillips without your Anthony bondas without your Brent honey welds you don’t get deep into a postseason or into the you know through a season you don’t survive a season you get deep into a postseason and you don’t win World Series without these kind of moves and this is where I love Andrew Freeman when he’s able to do the bargain basement shopping oh my boy Cooks I tell you what Andrew Freeman I’m trying to get him on the show and I do believe that he will join us he was going to come on today but he’s actually traveling and then on Wednesday obviously day before Thanksgiving he’s doing stuff with his family so I’m still working on that but um a tremendous amount of respect for him oby uh so let me ask you this if you could have one player right now just one player back let’s say it’s just and I’m not talking about contract terms it’s not it’s not apples it’s apples to oranges here okay one player that you want who is it damn say one year deal one year can can I get a pitcher and a position player I gotta have tcar Hernandez I gotta have t Tao’s got to be my guy who’s who’s your uh who’s your one same same for me I mean we’ve been we’ve been screaming about it all night long uh all day long all year long that they had to extend Tao so I’m with you on that all right time now uh let’s talk about the pups time now for Last Licks let’s do [Music] it all right you guys were great uh last week talking about bernardet I appreciate that very much good news on bernardet she has a very interested adoptive party in Arizona so let’s pray that that’s her forever home let me introduce you to Bentley this good boy uh has been failed by humans so many times but he is such a good dog he is in a board and train program with uh heroics K9 down in San Diego but he is a phenomenal dog he’s about a one and a halfy old to two-year-old German Shepherd mix probably a little German Shepherd probably a little husky so active boy he is neutered he is vaccinated he is healthy he is microchipped he’s good with other dogs he’s very well behaved he’s good with kids and he desperately needs a forever home he has again been failed by way too many people but he’s still super loving if you’re interested in meeting Bentley U and providing him with a forever home please reach out to me on my socials or um obviously grig guardian.org um Bentley is just a that’s my dog’s name by the way but this is the male version of Bentley instead of my female Bentley it’s like I was worried you were uh you were trying to trade in your dog I like that doesn’t sound right how dare you how dare you I would trade in you way before I trade it in my dog ibody I traed in my dog she’s my baby all right have you seen this though this Shi Otani this is look alike contest this is pretty good hold on I I got I got the button somewhere I forgot to put it on uh on on my stream deck here but somebody you can go out there and apparently win $17 I think it was is that what they gave away I don’t know I mean that makes sense it’s his jersey number right but I mean so you go apparently um on November 23rd this was just a couple days ago um so yeah it just happened and there’s a cash prize and a mystery gift hey um I don’t know I would love to have seen the winner of this contest but I’m certain anything Shi Otani related there was probably a line out the door and speaking Clint of a line out the door did you happen to see the amount of people that were at the Anthony bandas signing my friends um had this signing with him and I tell you he is far more popular than I gave the young man credit for yeah the people love uh to borrow from our friend Jerry Harrison Jr they love the real AB uh Anthony Bond plus you know the boy it’s like looking into a mirror the boy looks very hot with the shirt off so I I I get it this why I enclos myself in this room but you know beyond just Bond like fans my God they are so the excitement is still going for This World Series win for this team people I mean there’s so many signings going on so many different events and the fans are just they’re showing up and showing out and I love every minute of it Dodgers fans you guys you guys rock do you think that Clayton Kershaw is still blaring We Are the Champions um out of his house in Texas from even the even the 2020 World Series when it was just like on a loop in his house and I guarantee you now uh in a full season it’s it’s on repeat uh for Clayton Kershaw all right what is coming up on your channel tonight my friend all Dodgers withint Casas check it out what’s going on tonight we’ll be live 6 PM Pacific time here on the YouTube go subscribe to my channel my friend Tim Rogers from Dodgers 2080 a longtime baseball friend of mine here on this YouTube uh we’ll be talking about Dodgers a whole bunch of uh uh roster related stuff of course L rumors and all that kind of stuff Dodgers need so please do consider tubing in consider giving the show a subscribe hey while you’re subscribing to things here on YouTube subscribe to Dodgers territory all of the it’s free guys it’s free and it helps us feel better as human beings it does it does help us feel better by the way um it is Thanksgiving week so everybody enjoy your Thanksgiving and and I hope you’re with those that uh you want to be with um don’t forget though we are actually on the air on Friday and us your questions over the course of this next week because we’re going to do a mailbag episode of Dodgers territory on Friday so let Clint and I know what you guys want to talk about we’ll try to get you on uh on Friday thank you so much for watching for Clint pus I’m Alana Rizzo again appreciate you guys being here as always Happy Thanksgiving go Dodgers bye [Music]

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