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Miami Heat’s Biggest Debate EVER: NBA Trade Rumors, Tyler Herro Drama & Pat Riley’s Next Move!

Miami Heat Zone December 10, 2024

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Miami Heat’s Biggest Debate EVER: NBA Trade Rumors, Tyler Herro Drama & Pat Riley’s Next Move!

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welcome to the myone podcast I’m your host Martel lellan guys we have a stack panel here today we are pushing to 5,000 subscribers so first we have Amir from Team to be Miami Heat make sure that you guys go to his channel we have Royal from the basement Sports Network we also have Davey from Dave’s dogghouse and from refuse to lose Sports make sure that you guys go to all their platforms and then also too we have David David you want to plug your social medias real quick yeah Playbook SN follow that all right so today we’re GNA be talking about everything Miami Heat so we’re going to open up the floor for us to Royal Twitter has been absolutely destroying him talking about Tyler hero so this is a question though for the whole panel what do you guys think about Tyler hero is it just smoking mirrors is he an Allstar is he untradeable where do we move forward with Tyler hero I do think he is playing well and this Miami Heat team would not be successful without his scoring so Royal what’s going on do you have beef with Tyler hero do you want Tyler hero traded what is your issue with Tyler hero so first of all classifying it as heat Twitter destroying me is an absurdity I never get destroyed I never lose I always win everybody knows this if you think you got me back into the corner I have the best footwork of heat Twitter I will maneuver myself out of any situation second of all Martel the disrespect that you’re showing to our leading score right now is insane Allstar huh MVP that’s what we need to be talking about right now you see the Jersey bro like y’all I’ve been a Tyler hero supporter from the very beginning from day one I’ve always told you guys that if this this guy got the right set of circumstances he would average 30 points per game in this league and that is full of [ __ ] like I just I can’t keep that up for too long I do not I do not want to uh it was fun for a couple seconds and then after a while I was like I’m losing positive things to say about him look Tyler Hero has played well full stop end of end of sentence like that is that has been the case I am not I I need to see more and I know people think 22 games is a large enough sample size but um I was in one of defer spaces the other day where I heard a very good point and it was I’ve gotten five years of kind of like the same thing and people want me to Pivot entirely off of an off of a 22 game sample size and I’m just not willing to do that if he can trans if if this success translates for the rest of this season into the playoffs then maybe I can start you know I mean reassessing my own opinions of Tyler herro but until I see this success kind of sustained and replicated in a playoff setting then I reserve the right to be like okay this is nice but what happens when the other foot drops you know what I mean like I I do not believe he’s an All-Star I I don’t think that he’s taking some gigantic leap I believe that he has just put himself in a situation where he’s taking better shots um he’s he’s playing within himself he’s playing within the floor of the offense and that has resulted in success for him I do not believe that he’s gained any new skill set that has made him take this massive leap as a player like I I just don’t and I don’t give a [ __ ] if people on Twitter don’t like that now what about you David I would say right now if you were to tell me that uh he is playing like an All-Star yes he is 100% um you know the numbers back it up um out of there’s 13 players right now uh in the NBA that have shot over 200 threes this year uh Tyler herro ranks third in percentage amongst those guys and like he’s having a really good year so far but you know uh it is 22 games and Tyler Hero has had Seasons where he has started off red hot and you know his shooting’s good three-point percentage is good all around uh you know the I would say this year what he’s added more to is his all-around game uh the assisting he’s uh really looking forward to like passing the ball too um and then also uh you know Royal talked about it on our space uh the other night he’s taken a lot of those mid-range two twos that we used to see and he’s actually put those into the threes so uh as Miami this year has become like one of the best three-point uh percentage teams in the league uh he has a lot to do with that and so far right now I would say he is playing at an All-Star level uh he would definitely be considered to be an All-Star but we got to get to February to find out if that’s all gonna happen because it’s all about consistency as well yeah go ahead Davey uh I’ll say this um because I’ve been very critical of Tyler hero over the last few season especially last season um um I I’ve I’ve been very very critical of Tyler hero I’ll say this though he has played the best Miami Heat basketball out of anybody this season let’s just be honest about it if you look at how he’s played offensively playmaking even somewhat defensively he Ste a little bit when it comes to being able to get at least in the in the passing Lanes as far as getting steals I’m not saying that he’s a great on ball Defender we know he’s not that that’s that’s just let’s get that out of the vocabulary when it comes to Tyler hero but um everything has gone up for him this year he is up um as far as his points compared to what he’s it usually is he’s gone up 96% of his points um he’s up 81% his rebounding he’s up 90% his assists like he’s averaging five assists a game that’s that’s huge for Tyler hero because that has been the case since he’s been since he got drafted to Miami um but I think another thing that plays a part in it is that not it’s that Terry Roser has played terrible for Terry Roser playing terrible because remember we traded for Terry Roser last year for him to come to be our point guard but he got pretty much pushed to the bench and what you got now is Tyler hero taking over as a playmaking ability we it’s not like we never knew he had it it’s just that he wasn’t using it um but he is taking a lot he’s taking a lot more smart shs uh more smarter shots now he’s not he’s not playing scared um he’s driving the ball a lot more but the thing is he did this two years ago two years ago when we went to the finals he also drove the ball a lot more and everything but it didn’t come to where it is now for me I have to see it I’m not gonna say February I gotta see it for at least 20 more games when you get to half to the half point in the season you kind of know how everybody’s going to play so I gotta get we I gotta get at least to a half point of the season to say that he should be at Allstar he’s playing at an Allstar level don’t get me wrong he’s he’s balling out he just got play he just got he just got announced as the Easter Conference player of the week so he’s doing something that I don’t know if he’s I don’t know if he’s ever gotten this award honestly and it’s not it’s not a huge award but it’s it’s an improvement for him and like I said I still want to see if he’s going to play better than his Sixth Man of the Year Sixth Man of the Year season you know he had that a few years ago but now we need to see him do that now as a starter he has to step up and we’ll see I got I got a little bit of push back for that first off uh Tyler hero winning the same award as Luka D is disgusting work by the NBA Adam Silver needs to be fired um second like I the the the small bit of push back that I got from what you said is like a half a season is enough to kind of like know where you’re expecting the season to go I remember that same two seasons ago bam when Jimmy got hurt at the beginning of the Season bam played really well up until the allstar break and then after the allstar break his play dipped a little bit that’s and that that was around like the 40 42 games Mark when people say that like a half a season is enough of them it’s just like we’ve seen Tyler throughout the course of the years be inconsistent now these first couple of games he’s been efficient he’s been consistent and you want to give him his flowers for that but I can’t after 40 games like say this is the new Tyler hero this is who he is now everybody should buy into this like no bro I got five years of footage versus 20 games of footage and and I want to make sure shout out to my shout out to my girl new because I believe she came came on and she killed in that space is when she ELO this like it was just like I if I must accept that this is the new Tyler hero then people have to accept the Tyler hero that I’ve been bitching about for the past couple years Martel I don’t know if I can say bitching on your podcast but I just did twice uh but like people have to acknowledge both sides of the argument you can’t just lean into one and say this is the truth you’ve been wrong this whole time like that’s no I haven’t so maybe so maybe you you kind of misinterpreted what I was saying I’m not saying that this is gonna be who he is from now on what I’m saying is we can tell what what we can get an an estimate of what he may be for the rest of the season and I’m not saying he’s gonna be an All-Star from here on out that’s not what I’m saying at all because I need to see more than just 40 games to say he’s gonna be an All-Star from here on out he’s gonna average 25 to 28 points per game I’m not saying that what I’m saying is just for the rest of the season if he continues to play consistently like this because if you think about his career has he ever played consistently throughout 40 G throughout just a 40 game stretch other than his six Mann in the year season he hasn’t so that’s what I’m saying what I’m saying is if he does that for at least 40 games then okay maybe he’s gonna we can kind of sort of say that he might be able to do this for the rest of the season not saying that you know an injury might happen or something like that who knows what may happen but been top for just for the season not for the rest of his career I’m not saying I hear that I’ve been avoiding that injury [ __ ] I’m been avoiding saying anything about it he’s also never played 40 games in a row ever he’s played the most he’s ever played his 67 games so like this 22 game streak might be the longest conse someone looked that up in the chat in the audience I don’t know but when was the last time he played 22 without missing a single game so I agree with what both you’re saying but Royal I want to see this and I agree with you more so because I critiqued him too obviously but I’m gonna give him his credit I don’t think we could say he’s the best Miami Heat player right now I could say he’s the best offensive Miami Heat player by far he’s playing like an All-Star right now I give him his credit but can you do it for the whole season yes I’m like seeing that it’s happened for 22 games I’m surprised because I think last year for the first 12 games he did this then he landed on Triple J’s foot in that Memphis game because he was doing that floater then he missed 18 games in a row and then obviously he was back to that inconsistent Tyler where one game he gets you 13 the next game 22 the next game eight so the thing about Tyler this season he’s consistent his numbers are going up his his three-point percentage his twoo percentage his free throw percentage I’ll give him the credit but this this is the Miami freaking heat what does Pat Riley say playoffs hell do this in the freaking playoffs so I want to see it for a full season right because it could be fool’s gold right Royal like proof is in the pudding 22 games is enough proof now but I’ve seen this before into your point we see bam decline after All-Star break and other players have done this too show it to me in the playoffs because what is Tyler hero average in the playoffs 14 points per game what is his career average like 19 20 points whatever it is what yeah so he’s he’s averaging 30 33% from three in the playoffs not as bad as Carl Anthony tals or a Julius Randle type of guy because those guys have been Allstars and higher caliber players than Tyler herro but he has falling off in the playoffs do it in the freaking playoffs and then we can talk like yes he’s playing like an All-Star but can it sustain he’s been consistent that’s the thing I’m gonna give it to him he’s been more efficient we talked about it his shot profile he’s got rid of the mid-range he’s got rid of that floater he has put on some size he does have some confidence you could see that he’s finishing better at The Rim he’s not getting blocked every goddamn play at The Rim too which is kind of shocking if you guys remember that he would always get to the rack and actually get blocked but either way I got an example of one time he BL but I bring it up I’m just saying like yeah like I need to see this for not the regular season but in the playoffs like don’t give me I will take it take everything when we’re talking about Tyler herro I think the a big thing that always comes up with him is like the injury injuries that he’s sustain he’s sustained throughout his entire career and this year uh to your point Amir we’ve seen him play 22 straight games and that’s gota like it feels good for us because you know when Tyler hero in the beginning of the seasons he’s always like good at like you know scor ing uh he’s always going to be at least your number one number two scorer on any given night but the main thing is is just keeping him in play so as long as uh you know he stays healthy I think that can help uh you know him go forward and maybe you know defeat some of these uh you know narratives and stuff yeah I’m gonna stop talking to the second Martel because I know you’re the host but all five of us are host and I tend to talk after everybody sometimes um but really quick though like and I again I’m giving Tyler hero his full props full stop that’s what we’ve done here uh I hate to be this guy no I don’t I love to be this guy Tyler hero doing this did not translate into winning even at the beginning of the Season our winning streak all these games that we’ve kind of put together it’s not to say that Tyler hero is the reason that we lost or anything like that I’m just saying like when he was doing it and Bam and Jimmy were playing like [ __ ] like this did not translate into it and I’m sorry I’m saying [ __ ] on your podcast again Mar but when this this winning it started when bam started to play to his level and so like when I look at Tyler hero I always talk about production versus impact like this the counting stats look phenomenal but the impact on winning like I it needs to be contextualized to some regard like yes he is contributing to winning uh yes he contrib yes he has contributed to the winning of uh like this season yes he’s played phenomenal but like there’s there’s a conversation to be had about like what his production and how that impacts the overarching gold no but I mean you actually made a very good point it’s like people are raving about Tyler hero right now that means that he’s been playing terrible the past few years and to be honest once you’re getting into like year six and year seven you are who you are like you’re not going to go from like you know this regular player to an Allstar from year seven to year 10 that’s yeah like that’s not normal but uh David was the Terry Rosier trade a mistake I mean because ultimately 100% 100% let me breing it down there real quick because you know they did give up the expiring they did give up the first round pick but then it also handicapped US during the offseason to make any moves you know we kind of really didn’t give up all that for a bench player that pretty much doesn’t fit with you know like with the roster he doesn’t necessarily compliment Tyler hero I mean my main goal was dejonte Murray only because he fits the Bama bio timeline great two-way player but how do you feel about the whole Terry Rosier thing and should we be looking to trade him yes uh 100% trade Terry uh he’s doing nothing for this bench unit I’m not even going to say for the team I’m talking about for the bench unit we we threw him to the bench and his production just seemingly got even worse like this guy is not even swinging the ball around as soon as he gets the ball he is going Bam Bam step back three and every single time that happens I just want to rip my hair out um for the most part Terry is who he is at this point you’re not going to get any real good production other than you know some good threes um maybe you know a 15 20.9 possibly but that that still hasn’t happened in quite a few games so it was a mistake I agree with you 100% that we should have gotten dejon instead that’s who I was like you know more talking about when we were talking about the trade initially um but we ended up missing out on that as well I mean just you know another Miss by the Miami Heat who knew I completely disagree last game 14 points off the bench on 14 shot attempts like that’s really good he had 14 points last night guys but it took him 14 shots right so I agree with what you’re saying like can we can we TR we can’t get R of him this year but maybe next year as an expiring for 25 million can we get like a cam Johnson or a finny Smith or a Bruce brown type of guy for him no because you not that would be great those picks but and we don’t have any picks you think have to attach Royal do you think we have to attach a pick to get rid of Terry because that would be egregious who you want to get yeah so I okay so first of all I agree that this was a terrible trade from the onset big Vic I ain’t gonna hold you brother I’m not gonna be calling no grown ass man big Vic your name is Victor [ __ ] your name Victor as long as I’m on this p and [ __ ] you bro like I don’t care about what you talk I’m not gonna do that on your I come to the basement so I can cut you out properly but right here I’m G be respectful of this a because I do not want my man Martel make sure y’all like And subscribe to this video make sure y subscribe to this channel my boy Martel does wonderful work make sure yall support him uh and anybody else who does content for this [ __ ] ass team back to the topic at hand T roier the trade was bad when it happened it’s even worse in hindsight I do not want to trade him because there are two reasons for that one I feel like this front office needs to learn his lesson y’all went out there and made this move y’all need to deal with the consequences of that eat your [ __ ] vegetables like that’s what they need to deal with they need to understand that all moves aren’t good moves and I think trading Terry roier is I think Terry roier is trading him is kind of like another in that list of moves you’re not gonna improve by trading ter Ro you’re not gonna get back a better player like like that trade that we saw for dear Fox I don’t know if people saw that on Twitter like it’s it’s another problem with Heat fans they want to give up everybody who’s playing like [ __ ] to get an Allstar caliber point guard one first round pick khle wear who hasn’t seen the floor Nico yic and ter roier who have been removed from the starting lineup and Hae HCK ass who can’t shoot threes like you want to give that up and you honestly believe that you’re gonna get hit like that is the deluded part of this fan base it’s not gonna happen if you trade Terry roier even if you attach a first it will be a lateral move and it’ll be a step in the wrong direction game this gun don’t Jam bro I just want to let you know that like out the gate like you can come I ain’t going let’s not do Martel don’t even don’t don’t I’m not entertaining him but go ahead all right so I got two separate answers when it comes to this uh for one hindsight you can say yes this is absolutely a terrible trade he’s played absolutely horrible this season but last year when we made that trade do you you remember why we made that trade we made that trade Kyle Lowry was ask absolute trash when we had him so we needed to make that trade we had to get rid of him I understand that we gave up a first round pick for him but let’s be honest and and in today’s NBA people are get people are giving away first round picks for just about anything think about the the Rudy Gober trade do we really think he was worth all of that that he got rid of whether he made the play he made it to they made it to the Western Conference finals last year or not well you know it wasn’t him he was the reason why they lost to Western cage final because he got cooked by Luca multiple times so that’s just think about that when Terry came when Terry came over he had a little he had a little bit of difficulty getting used to the offense but as soon as he got used to the offense he started getting hot after he got hot he got hurt then we didn’t see him after that so what I’m gonna say is hindsight yes it was it’s absolutely terrible the connection there what was happening when Terry got H like somebody wasn’t there then I mean yeah Jimmy wasn’t there guard no the other guy my started shooting guard was going yeah Tyler hero wasn’t there but what I’m saying is if you look at what he did he was he was able to fit in a spot where we didn’t where we we were missing we were missing someone to to come in and score and kind of he wouldn’t I can’t say facilitate but kind of try to at least try to facilitate but he came in and started playing like T rosil we know what T rosil was M he’s he’s a scorer that’s all he’s ever been he he was like that in Boston he was like that and and with with the Hornets that’s all he’s Everman that’s all he will be he’s a scorer he’s not a Defender he’s not a facilitator he’s just looking to score that’s what he does best and what he does best now he not doing that at all this this season I think he’s averaging maybe what nine 10 points a game this season if that I don’t know but he has not he’s played putrid let’s just just be honest about it he’s played absolutely terrible this year so um do we need to make a trade yes but is anybody really GNA trade for him no I don’t see it happening I so I got again I’m sorry I keep doing this but I got a little bit on that too like when you say like we needed to get off of Kyle Lowry like we did it go yeah I agree that KY situation the fan base was pissed that we still had him I was brother my my network made one of the most popular lot videos that’s probably ever existed on the internet brother we wanted them gone too but what again though like the trade itself goes back to the conversation that we were just having production versus impact like does Terry roier have a different impact than Kyle Larry on his roster no we were no better because he came here the office didn’t function more fluidly like nothing changed when Terry roier got here we just got Terry roier like and that to me is kind of like where get what happened was we just got a better player but he wasn’t a better player for the system that’s what it was no and there there’s there was a comment that said uh we didn’t get the the point guard value uh when we brought Terry Rosier in that we that that comment right there yes I’m telling you right now Terry Rosier was never a play has never been a playmaker no he’s never been a playmaker in his career he is a guy that’s going to possibly Kickstart your offense and get you buckets when you need to especially when you’re on the [ __ ] Hornets so like his ability to score there and them being okay with all these step back shots they’re okay with lamelo ball right now taking one foot three point shots so you can see the organizational dysfunction with the Hornets and then when you get to the Miami Heat it’s a different animal you got all these players around you to where you can actually maximize your game and you can’t do it somebody said we should have squeezed more out of the Hornets uh instead of just take so that’s what were we gonna get Wasington any of those guys like if you include them in the trade then the trade is more palatable like if you if you get you desperately needed a backup big if you get one in this Terry rier trade you Nick Richards may not be a a you know World beater in terms of names or whatever but as a backup big that’s solid that’s an upgrade over Thomas Bryant that’s an upgrade what you got in house I mean anything is an upgrade over Thomas Bryant correct that’s what I’m saying like you could have gotten more for a $30 million expiring in a first round pick we got Terry rier just Terry rier only Terry rier and how to give up a first round pick no but that’s the thing I think that bad Asset Management over these past few years you know like with jir like what do you think has really been you know some of the biggest downfalls for the Miami Heat I mean you know lockdown heat said is when we traded for Victor ladipo I just think thatted stuff the injuries that we could control and bad Asset Management were some of the things that really set people on fire no no hold on hold on but hold on but then also to KY Larry they they should have never have signed Kyle Larry I think honestly Kyle Larry was that $90 million hurt us more than what a lot of people think Mar good friendship huh you think you should have signed Lonzo ball because the two top point guards in that market were Kyle lar and Lonzo ball would you have gone Lonzo ball of Kyle Larry hell no hurt listen Lonzo would have never played for us so kyari was the best well you don’t know that I agree with you but my problem is and I’m always gonna say this even though like Amir told me not to it’s Jimmy Butler’s fault you bring your mans over here out of shape and overweight and I’m not saying I’m not saying that you know he was gonna be in some Stellar shape because he never been he knew what he was coming to you bring your mans over here and he’s looking at the court like I got to run on the court all of a sudden oh oh well I got to lift weights why are you so so surprised I ain’t G lie he was out of shape overweight eating Burgers and Shakes the whole time DeMarco come on man put that URL right quick there but I will say like the one thing on my record this this is an exclusive for your pod I was wrong one time I I I’ll admit it I wanted Kyle Lowry here I said it I wanted Lonzo more but when they saw Kyle lry I wasn’t pissed at it bro like I all no but we all wanted K we just didn’t know he was gonna come over here and be fat boy Lowry not want to do anything not want to shoot the ball so I I guess this is where I have a disagreement when it comes to him being here because of Jimmy Butler when has Pat Riley ever done something for a player on this team in favor of LeBron James was here LeBron James was here Mike Miller you look at everything if you look you look at everything if you look at what what did what did LeBron want in the beginning he wanted air exposure fir right yeah yeah he wanted to be able to run the office like he does in every team when Pat Ry was like nah not doing that here Dwayne Wade Dwayne Wade was asking for players before LeBron got there he wasn’t getting he got Shaq because Shaq just became available that was like all right oh wow I mean I can’t mess out on this and you know Pat Ry already has Lakers ties he already you know he was he was with the short time Lakers so he he has lakor ties already so they was like you know what give you a gift his his Shaq and then of course I mean Gary Peyton who also played for the Lakers as well so all right that’s cool but LeBron other than those see the thing was LeBron didn’t want those players he needed those players that’s the difference it’s not that he wanted he needed those players because LeBron has to play around with Shooters Jimmy Butler needed a point guard he didn’t he didn’t necessarily say hey Pat go get me him that’s not Pat doesn’t run like that Pat doesn’t run his team like that at all that’s not how Pat goes maybe maybe Pat didn’t take his orders but I think Jimmy Butler had enough cache within the organization to be like if you gonna at the end of the day this falls on Pat Riley Pat Riley needs to know how to he has to do a lot better they didn’t even want to give him the third year they only gave him the third year because that’s Jimmy’s man no third year they gave him that third year because it was a competitive market Philly also wanted uh Kari in that in that year and the only way for Miami to secure him was to pay him a premium price and to add that third year I will agree with you that like this is a Pat Riley issue and I want to get back to Amir because Martel asked him a question and I kind of like want to let him get his shot off but like yeah bro like I agree like this is mainly on Pat but I think Jimmy is also Cable in this kind of Ky Larry thing too you kind of Miss KY lar you are a sick man with sick hey I’m just saying real quick I have not seen this Heat team take charges since that man left I’m just saying I’m just saying that’s the only thing I got for Kyle lry other than that bro later bro the biggest mistake over the past couple of years Martel what was the biggest mistake like was it the mismanagements was it Kyle Lowry was it the injuries that we couldn’t control or maybe keeping Victor leipo too long trading you know Kell o l not giving a bam a proper for since the bubble I think that there was a bunch of mistakes but what are some of like the biggest downfalls of this you know Jimmy fer build I mean there’s a lot we can’t use injuries as a mistake but I mean unless you sign like Alonzo ball type of injury-prone dude but the I mean in the five years prior to this year in the build the Duncan contract obviously he’s he’s becoming better we could talk about I I have a question for you Royal about Duncan I want to talk to him and give him some credit obviously as he’s been inserted in the starting lineup and now we’re seven- two but initially that contract that contract was bad you’re three year four or no year two three were sketchy the Tyler hero contract I know we had to give him that that uh after the rookie scale contract like we we immediately paid him I don’t think that was great um obviously the undrafted piece you and I talk about this [ __ ] all the time like relying too heavily on the developmental system and missing out on veteran type of three and D type players and just being cheap to a certain degree the Kyle thing uh oh precious to Chua obviously like I mean obviously hindsight’s you know 2020 but like you miss one contract gonna H Miss drafts every year Duncan Robinson’s contract that one was bad too at that time yeah say Duncan Tyler those contracts hold on it was [ __ ] terrible G lie abely horrible at that time I’m sorry no matter what he’s done last coule seasons he’s got better at that time it it was trash I ain’t gonna lie to you bro ducky Robinson is like patient zero for how people should like predict how I would go if Tyler started playing better I wanted to I wanted to fire duny Robinson ass until the moon when he signed that damn contract I hated it and hated him for like three years of the contract and I think it was like two years ago well I was like okay D when we start to see D when dunan Robinson gave wimy that Smitty that’s when he became my started shooting guard for the rest of my life because that that that moved me all right but like I can pivot I can change I just need to see the evidence on the court that supports that like Duncan gave me a stretch long enough to the point where I was like okay the improvements to his game are sustainable and like he’s kind of like they not they not as you know eye popping as they are now but he still does some of that stuff he’s still driving to the basket he’s still like add he’s still Diversified his game to the point where he’s not just a shooter anymore and so like so like that growth his personal growth that made me turn the corner on Duncan Robinson and again I hate to Circuit it back to patient to our boy here but like if I see that same kind of thing and I can be moved to like change my opinions on him too so like I don’t I might have lost calls people but brother I am stubborn as a m now you gonna have to convince me yeah Duncan was in that Sharpshooter Bon Joe Harris hold on there’s no way you give an undrafted player that you made that type of money like I understand what the shooters were going for there’s no way that I I remember I built these dudes gave Vincent where are you Kendrick nun where are you I built these dudes they got paid we that’s the market that’s think I think that’s marel I think that’s martel’s point they got paid but we should have been the ones to take that I built these dudes Eric sper built these dudes we’re not g to give you 100 million because all these other established Shooters in the league has been getting we built you he’s somewhere else he’s getting liel you kind of cooking because goddamn it maxu was right there like we was like we already made we already built your replacement bro like we we already built your replacement you can get on I buil I built a a strong disdain for Duncan Robinson during that time when he got that contract I said there’s absolutely no way he deserved that contract I came back from it recover from it D I’ll say this I recovered from it two years ago in the playoffs when I saw him start to play a lot better I said okay Duncan okay okay Duncan that’s what I like that’s what I like started his game his game improved so much I was like okay okay now he’s not just a shooter he’s actually driving the ball he’s making decisions he can create a shot for himself cool I I like it then he started Mak some plays on defense I was like oh okay you trying to turn up a little bit more now I know he just ain’t gonna be consistent but hey I see the effort that’s all I care hey but before he can put the ball on the floor run his ass off the line but if you run ass off the line he could put the ball on the floor he could playmake he could distribute he could do that that Smitty hesy like he start Thompson too or not started able to make that little pocket pass to Bam out to pick and roll and [ __ ] like that like that’s like that like that to me like that that was a significant part of like Duncan’s growth bro like and I don’t know bro like and and I I get it bro like hindsight is 2020 5050 I don’t know damn saying but in hindsight it’s kind of like but in the moment bro it was absolutely a bad contract and the way he playing now does not make up for the fact that it was a bad contract at the time C I I I know we on one topic but can you pull up that last comment right there was where they talking about Cayla Maran they ain’t learned [ __ ] they they ain’t learned [ __ ] brother my happiness it’s the second and last comment man yeah they learn [ __ ] look look look whoever that is Caleb Martin and his agent have to be highly upset right now because for one he took less money to go to Philly he didn’t take more he took less money to go to Philly and Philly has been and Philly has been a lot worse than we are this year so what was his offer what was the Mier G to be 6 for 30 or 6 for 40 or something yeah I think it was 6 for 45 or something like that he got much less than that to go to Philly I was like hey hey you think you can win better than Philly hey go ahead they haven’t got six round second round and be been there so the agent fumbled y’all let’s be real oh he sure did he sure did yeah why would an agent agent gets 10% like why would he say hey sign here for 30 less he get 10% of the contct he got no so when he opted out you can’t op back in for the same deal so they thought they were GNA get more money than 60 million I don’t know why because Cayla Martin was coming off of a Down year if they if they would have paid Caleb Martin we would have been screwed I don’t know about screw we would have just had Caleb instead of Haywood hasith we would have had essentially the same roster now I’d rather have Haywood right now I’d rather you are a sick man we be in the second apron though what we why why why why are people so high on Hayward High Smith that’s what I want to know brother they are because they’re nasty human beings that’s why hey we have a religious stand that comes in our space every single night bro and he will tell you all about hey what bro he almost converted me that brother was preaching in those spes I think I think I think what happens is like my again like we’ve been sold kind of like this product uh my boy Ricky J Mark he calls it well marketed mediocrity um and they’ve kind of marketed this culture thing to the point like we developed these guys and to real NBA players and hey hot Smith is just another example of that where we like we built him up from nothing and made him a defensive stopper like no you took him from nothing and made him nothing with poper on it like that’s what would like he’s not really good at basketball he’s just kind of like Scrappy and they’ve kind of marketed that as like a good Defender and and you know Miami fans eat it up like he’s a solid Defender I ain’t gonna downplay it too much but I don’t know it’s actually been good at what he scored zero points yesterday brother man I see I I I think I’m it’s really just the defense same thing for Drew Smith really be honest with you I’ve been confused on a lot of these players that people are so high on like like Smith even me I’m not high on him at all I’ve never I was I was pissed when we signed him I said Drew Smith out of all these other players Drew Smith that’s who we sign but that was everybody was in that same space and now everybody talking like he going to be the next one up like I don’t get it like how how does how does two or three games fool this fan base like this no but not even that Ro wait wait wait that that that last comment said if we want Fox we’re gonna lose High Smith lose a high Smith why would you be upset about that oh my God he said he Smith he said High Smith or hero like it’s a choice between the two like what you mean hasith ain’t that good to be put look I’m not saying hero or Allstar but he’s a lot better than hasith I’m not you think Sacramento GNA take a package without Tyler hero in it for dearn Fox of course not tonight saying or is like both of them are at the same level they’re not at the same level whatsoever whatsoever so I mean if you don’t include one you you’re going to have to include the other one almost immediately because no go ahead David yeah but it just goes back like like that comment right there it just goes back to when I was like listening to people talking about the Dame trade and all these different type of scenarios do you want to trade away every other player other than Tyler hero Jimmy Butler and Bam atab bio and you think that that like an organization is not going to want at least one of those players in the package like it doesn’t make sense like you’re going to have to say goodbye to a player at some point in your in the career like you may as well do it when you when you can get the highest value for it and people just say oh if you would have went and got Dame you would have had to give away the farm and this and that give away the farm look at look at the farm what are we watching the farm play basketball right on we not hey look look this not OKC this we we we didn’t Draft come on now the role players that we have which like you know like what do we do with yish because what what is what is the point of keeping him if we’re not gonna play him it makes absolutely no sense but see made in we’ve made it in essence harder to trade him like it’s just like when you when you minimize him to the point where he goes from being a starter at the end of the season to 22 games in he’s getting DMP coaches decision that’s let that’s putting like the rest of the Le gonna notice that it’s it’s something stinky in the water over there like it but but I’m I’m not against trading him I’m not against trading him I’m not against trading H like and I think that’s I think that’s where Eric sper deserves some criticism too because it’s like what what what where’s your consistency on these lineups like what what is your plan what is what do you want this team to look like what do you want them to do if you’re gonna have bam says he does not want to continue to play the center he wants to be a four he wants to be the four you draft the guy who supposed to be the five and he’s not out there send you go see you go send him to the G league and immediately he puts up 17 he puts up a double double in the you doing so good yeah but those are some of fraudulent points though only because think because orando Robinson dominated the G League yeah thing my my thing is what’s what why are we drafting these players if we’re not going to play them that’s my thing AG we’re not going to play We dra use them you draft a first round pick to send him to the G League name name another team in the NBA who has the first round pick that they sent to the G League the houon rocket the Houston Rockets they sent cam Whitmore to the G League last year last was Aman on the G g- League last year no no no no heam yeah Cam’s not even in the rotation right now crazy okay the first round pick other other than Houston Houston is a team that hasn’t gotten to the play I’m not even going count them right now I know they got eok over there and they’re playing a lot better this year but other let’s look at the teams in contention let me put it say that way the teams in contenent Who and the teams that that draft look at Boston look at their they’re I hate Boston but they they they do right with the body Players let’s just be honest about it I can’t stand you’re in contention you’re starter your draft picks are late and not playing so I don’t think that’s relevant you know but agree even the Hawks the Hawks they’re the first round pick they got that guy is playing like well you better play if we’re gonna draft someone right there and we’re and we say we drafted him to be able to allow bam to play the four why are we not doing it that’s my thing here’s the thing the issue with SPO and the heat is their freaking Blended builds of like let’s try to do yic in the starting lineup let’s try to do the young guys and contend at the same time I think that’s what’s effing it up C SPO doesn’t trust him because he still thinks we have enough Pat thinks we have enough we just need to be healthy I think that Blended strategy is [ __ ] a up we go back so if we go back to the original question um can I can I answer that now because I think y’all have an idea of what I’m going with this it’s Pat Riley PL and simp It’s Pat It’s Pat I’m sorry I love Pat Riley but it’s Pat Riley Pat Riley doesn’t do he does not surround he has not surrounded this team with enough players to say that we can compete every year it’s enough for us being underdogs we’ve been underdogs for entirely too long we were underdogs before we got Jimmy once Jimmy came we became even bigger underdogs because they didn’t think we would get out the first round with Jimmy Butler Jimmy Butler has at least shown up in the playoffs every single year he’s been healthy let’s just put it that way now when it comes to Pat rally drafting he’s missed on multiple players I mean he we got Tyler hero but we could have got Devin Booker Devon Booker at least went to the NBA finals and you can say what you want about that about them going to the NBA finals but he at least played his part when they got to the finals first two games Chris ball ball then the last four games of that series he’s the one that he’s the one that that at least kept them afloat during that even though they lost the last four he’s the only player that played consistent throughout those four games there’s too many times where we miss out on players that we should have drafted and D Fox we we could have drafted him there were there so there are too many players that we miss out on because Pat is not I don’t know if it’s the scout team or what it was but Pat is not surrounding his team the way he’s supposed to when he when we have chanes to get players and I bring this up every single time when we had the chance to sign Kevin Durant and LaMarcus Aris say what you want about Lamarcus arich but at that time he was still better than anyone else we had on the team as far as his size he told him go sign somewhere else for a year and then come to Miami what GM tell somebody that who does that and then then when it came to the KY Lowry trade I’m talking about the year before he actually got traded when he fell asleep at the trade deadline you mean to tell me someone who fell asleep at the trade deadline still is a GM in this league are we serious right now how did he fall asleep he he only the only move he made was attaching the second round pick to Dwayne dond to get off so couple of things like Pat ry’s not the Andy ellisburg is the GM Pat Ry is the president basketball operations the president of basketball operations needs when you say when you say Pat Riley are you talking about the entire front office or are you just talking about Pat Riley specifically the entire front office is Pat and everyone else is with them so this is my theory because like do you let me ask you do you include SPO in that in that category yes I do too I I include him too so we’re on the same page here I I put it as the Brain Trust of the Miami Heat and I agree with you 100% like that’s like that’s been the problem the Brain Trust of the Miami he has to include SPO because he’s the reason Josh Richardson’s here he’s the reason Duncan got that extension he’s the reason Drew Smith is here like yes there are players on this Rost well I can explain it to you SPO got the reputation of being able to take [ __ ] players and make them NBA role players he likes that that g that added his resume as the best coach in basketball would I not want to keep doing that he also can play with superstars though we seen that we got two titles because we have superstars in the team but the team so why not go back to that format that’s what I don’t think about it from small perspective though like I delivered two championships into this organization my job is secure I’m safe now I need to enhance my own legacy so that I can be somebody to be looked at like SPO needs to be a name I’ve already delivered two championships to this franchise if I keep coaching these garbage players they’re not gonna give him that respect they are they SP definitely respected around the League what I’m saying is as far as like accolades wise he’s not going to get that yeah yeah Nick nurse got a cure the year war like who cares like I don’t James kingdom real quick go ahead just because these guys jump in and then we’re going to go to um yeah go ahead yo you there yo I guess not all right go ahead go to mster what’s up everybody how you all doing make sure that you guys go to his channel and hit that subscribe button I I’m uh NBA Watcher I’m not a Die Hard Heat fan but I know some Die Hard Heat fans and uh the ramblings are all the same it all starts with big Pat Riley man it all starts with big Pat man listen I’m curious though so what trades do you think he could have done realistically that would have actually worked I got one okay go ahead Kyrie Irving Kyrie Irving thank Kyrie Irving that’s that’s that’s Kyle l in the first and that’s and the same pack that got us Terry roier would have got us Kyrie IR throwing Jay Rich just for fun but it was in the early stages it was in the early stages of kind of like it was after the whole antii [ __ ] came out like in ear tell me you know please tell me you know we had that trade in the talks the only reason why I didn’t have him is because K because they promised Kyle they wouldn’t send him there that’s the only reason why it didn’t happen yeah but that’s what that’s what I’m saying like that trait there that changed the entire trajectory of the of the franchise but it was let him ask another one let him ask another one go ahead was he at Brooklyn though was he at Brooklyn though was that was they were having a fire sale thank God we didn’t get Harden though CU [ __ ] that say rather than freaking yeah I would I would have to have but over the two I’d rather have Kyrie obviously than 100% Kyrie Irving is my favorite point guard in the league I he that’s that’s my guy I defend him to the depths that’s my guy so I would love to have Kyrie in Miami Elite basketball player the uh James hard was more around the bubble and he’s a he’s a great leader people underrate his leadership he’s a great leader players love playing with him and he always know he he lets he let he lets his teammates be themselves he never tries to down him he always tries to man if we had Kyrie Irving I wouldn’t be I wouldn’t be this upset right now all right then let him ask another one go ahead no that’s is very that tra man Brooklyn would have been so stupid to take that trade I’m gonna be honest bro if I’m getting Kyle Lowry for they were having a fire sale it didn’t matter to I know but just trying to acquire picks uh they’re trying to acquire picks so they did it’s true I guess would been on the Mel Bridges lead team which would have been that is true that is true that would have gone to the Mel Bridges lead team or yeah yeah I guess or ktie would have yeah yeah okay K ktie was going to they were trading the Phoenix for Bridges and Ken johs aside from Kyrie most of those trades though I feel like it looks like in retrospect Pat riy made the right move not to get those players though when you agree do you think he made the right move in not acquiring Damen Lillard well I mean break that down though hold on but break that down because when I see the NBA you know sent him a letter talking about he can’t go to Miami only when you see all these other superstars KD got he said either the Miami Heat or the Suns he went okay all these other superstars they get to pick and choose but you have Paul George shaking hands with Joel em B okay it’s because of the decision that’s what a lot of people don’t understand they’re still punishing they don’t want to down bis G Boulevard decision the decision was too public it was tooo public and it was too and it put too much it put too much shine on Miami so they was like no we can’t have this happen again Royal you could say that the Miami Heat probably didn’t do this or or they didn’t do that but when you have the NBA plotting against you how are you supposed to go against the machines so listen you got mainstream media talking talking [ __ ] into um Joe cronin’s ear miam is gonna fleece you what I’m telling you right now in terms of the future of the Trailblazers Tyler haime and yish would have complemented their whole roster a lot better than what they got back yeah they were and they would have got eight too don’t forget because would have been there either way they yeah so yeah they still would have got e because that was a sep deal as opposed to the one that they end up doing um my my my thing we knew we were dealing with a contentious situation to it um and Miami did not offer what they had at the at the top hey I don’t know how you do this but I do donos on my channel so I’m gon do it on yours want to thank heat for for the 199 D know he said hero buding Allstar cap um but I think at the time like we knew we were dealing with a contentious situation with Portland we knew that uh like anim there and we still went and we tried to [ __ ] them I believe if Miami had a gone in there with more good faith then that entire ordeal would have gone a different way now whether or not people believe that Joe Cronin had this bitter kind of like Feud with Miami whatever like that’s that’s going to dictate the way that you look at that situation I believe Miami had a legitimate path to to getting Dame Lillard and they chose to Short Change Portland and try to be Surly negotiators and it back like that’s that’s what I believe happened I believe it backfired with Miami trying to go in there and do the Godfather Pat Raley thing we’re gonna give you worms and because if you remember it came out later like oh they were willing to give up Caleb Martin why the [ __ ] was he in the deal to begin with like why didn’t we start with you everything outside of bam and Jimmy take your pick not call me back when you have a better offer no bro like you’re not in a position of strength in that situation I agree too because it’s not like we’re dealing with a Danny a who doesn’t agree with Pat and we have beef like spose Dad was like a VP of something with the Portland Trailblazers they had ties you like I’m sure there’s still connections there the main problem was or one of the main problems you had guys like Bill Simmons you had a lot of PE you had you had W all he had to do was shut his mouth and and all w was doing before he left was running around here oh no you know we cannot blame Wes bro it should have never gotten there because if you gonna blame the media then you have to blame Dan Dan lebatard for going on camera with that mouthpiece telling the Portland Trailblazers that you have to deal with us and that you’re not gonna get anything better because I swear within 30 minutes Milwaukee got that damn Wes bomb to come on the damn timeline but that’s because he’s claiming what Miami is saying so is he technically wrong for claiming what Miami already say already if if Miami is saying that that is the problem you’re not respecting Portland in the situation the NBA had a very they had too much of a hand in this trade like I said no one’s getting letters never got there Martel if they deal in silence like they were supposed to and did it in good faith then it would have been done before it ever got to the point I agree with you but I’m saying why is the NBA putting their nose in our business and this I think it’s just Portland Portland’s like you Dame you and your agent whatever the hell his name was I forgot his name made a million videos about him you took away our leverage by saying Miami only you could have said two or three teams we knew Beal has said multiple teams the six times that he’s been traded he always wanted to come to Miami they always say a couple and also Dame doesn’t have the character of a player that I hate the most in the NBA one of the most hated players James Harden you pull in the manifesto of James Harden and like you do what he does and you get your way so Dame didn’t push enough they should respected Dame though they I know it don’t work like that they were going to but was just main was only Miami once it was peace fellas peace fellas peace and blessings man why we let holiday go we could have grabbed holiday that’s somebody we could have grabbed he was available Portland was gonna hold on to him yeah and Y talking about Harden I told y’all we should have been grabbed Harden we should have been grabbed Harden our problem is not having a true ball facilitator a true point guard dam is our best ball facilitator we can’t and we can’t we can’t do that we can’t have them problems roier we thought was going to be that he’s not going to be that that’s why I said I miss KY Lowry because KY Lowry was a true point guard at the end stage of his career we couldn’t hold on to him we had to let him go but still we’re missing that point guard that ball facilitator that can get us in our offense we are horrible offensively and it ain’t gonna get any better offensively not horrible we have a top 10 offense right now it’s not that Lakers game doing a lot of heavy listen listen if we could play if we could play the Lakers last night so I’m if we could beat the if we could play the Lakers if we could play the Lakers four or five times in a in a week I let’s do that I’ll play the Lakers every day that’s I played them all season so listen to your question though like why didn’t we get Drew holiday I feel like that would have been the biggest [ __ ] move Pat Riley could have did like going to them giving them the same level of assets for Drew holiday as they would have for D no give him less what did Boston give up what is less you what Boston gave up what Robert Robert Williams in the first look at if you look at the at the difference between we could have but I ain’t dealing with them after they just shift they just [ __ ] on me for D like they just [ __ ] I’m not getting Drew bro that’s true if you look at the difference between the two players though with Drew holiday and Dan who’s been better since that trade it’s been Drew holiday I’m sorry it’s been Drew Drew is the only one that’s been makinging indidual player I’m I’m per I’m tell about not as an individual player I’m not talking about individual stats or like that I’m talking just as a player when it comes to their team success it’s been Drew holiday period he’s done what he’s needed to do he’s come up clutching multiple times he’s a he’s an olymic gold medalist now I mean it’s not that has nothing to do anything but he he made clutch plays in the finals in order for them to win the finals in that in that series against against Dallas Mavericks sure Drew holiday has also improved his offense his offense has gotten better he’s not now now he’s not a facilitator that’s not what he is but he’s a smart decision maker on the basketball court that’s the reason why Boston went got him because holiday is a facilitator is a facilitator he’s the as like a better three-point shooter get you I’m talk get you n to 11 assists how many not young LeBron James he’s not LeBron James like how many guys you got like that in the league though like I think of like what is I think Drew holiday like exemplifies all the characteristics what I’m saying is the best the best guy is five assist per game on our team we need somebody give us seven we don’t need nine we need seven per game that’s it a seven per game guy cool with that what I’m saying is I would have I would have been okay with Pat making that trade for Drew holiday even if it was the same assass because if you look at it we would have given us more he would have done more for our team than Dame because Dame is not going to play defense let’s be honest about it I don’t care what Dame said Thomas on my my defense is a little is is not what everybody makes your defense is trash Dame I’m sorry your defense is not good be great on both ends of the made that TR if real quick before you go David like but I think the issue there is that like our our problem wasn’t that we didn’t have like defensive or what like we needed a top scorer on that roster to complement our two best players like and and that’s we still have the same problem and Dame would have given us that like Dame would have given us somebody who can carry the offense on night in Night Out bases while having Jimmy and Bam flank him and I think that to me is like what you needed in that moment not uh Drew holiday to just come and be Kyle Larry super Kyle Larry on this roster bro hold on quick because we have go James kingdom here and I have to ask you this m why did LeBron bring bronnie into the NBA hold on I’m stand on this I’m stand this I was gonna leave it I was gonna leave it for the next week because we have a bro we have a huge debate with Davey and the boys this man bronny doesn’t even want to play in the NBA and first of all you had your you had your king up there sit up there and run his mouth oh bronnie better than half the NBA and then as soon as they start cooking him and his son oh now I gotta duck from social media oh I got to take a leave of abent because they’re frying they’re frying and cooking my son on social media he has no business being in the NBA period he should have stayed at USC he has no business being in the NBA and his father sat up there and I get it it’s nothing look he has no let me let me let me talk to you before I debate you this Saturday yeah go ahead D go get that off let me talk Saturday let’s make sure you show up Saturday now we we wait here be here it was my last week in DC I just moved to Jersey with my my wife and my step so I had to spend time before I left congratulations congrat tell the family no sorry congratulations go ahead get it off but look bronny whether he would stay at USC or not does not belong in the NBA right now I love the idea give don’t don’t get me wrong I love the idea of him being able to play with his son getting his son drafted to the Lakers then play being on the floor at the same time I love the sentiment of it but we’re talking about basketball reasons only what did bronny do and college to say that he deserved to be a second round draft pick or a draft pick period or to play greatest set of jeans that a junior could have I get it I understand it I understand he had a near he had a near death experience I understand that we gonna let you go live we gonna let everybody go and then we gonna let you cook at D go ahead go ahead he had he had a near-death experience I’m glad he’s good I’m glad he’s alive that I wish nothing but the best for Brony I want him to be successful but at the end of the day I think his success was ruined because he had to come out after one season even though he didn’t really play because of what happened to him he didn’t get he didn’t get a chance to develop his game anymore and they’re not allowing him to get get his game developed fully by being in g- League because he only he’s only playing in G League home games he’s not in any away games you don’t develop a player by only allowing them play in home games allowed them to play period and then he’s getting special treatment I get it it’s it’s Bron it’s LeBron James son but he’s the only one that’s get the that gets the fly private just because it’s LeBron James son what has he done to prove that he he deserves that treatment it’s not basketball perod there’s nothing he did basketball wise to say that he should be with the Lakers right now or in the NBA period go ahead hold on go ahead mster and then David and then Roy and then go James Kingdom will close that out go ahead hey I mean listen shout out to Brony man you know he managed to somehow be a worse fases I didn’t think it’d be possible um because the NASA’s at least stayed in the NBA uh for a long time um listen I got respect for Bonnie I guess you can mention 30 other second round draft picks not all of them get guaranteed contracts not all of them uh get to say I want to only play it you know away home games and hey I mean hey good for him man you know that moment was cool game one you know it was it was cool it was a cool moment you know shout out to bronnie I don’t really care I mean give it a couple years we’ll all forget because then LeBron will be retired and then who knows but go ahead David shout out to go James bro way to get your moment um but your son’s cooked love LeBron um you know love love what he does for the NBA uh great family man of course I mean the obviously he’s the greatest family man of all time for getting his son NBA minutes when he didn’t deserve one of them okay so you gotta give your you gotta tip your cap to him but you know it is what it is man we’re not g to be talking about broad soon so it’s all good man go ahead Royal uh I want to read your Dono first yeah goe I have an impulse control problem thank you heat f with the 499 Dono he said we should bundle hot Smith when he’s playing well and roier for a true PG and a first round pick you should start hold on we’ll move on from that but hold on but go ahead Ro what like what is your opinion with bronnie James because like I said his father said lie to the whole NBA listen bro listen I’m with goat James bro like I feel like he should be in the NBA like this is the most discusted number 55 overall pick of all time LeBron James has made the NBA billions of dollars they could spare a couple million for his son to get basketball list I get it I get it but I had to watch Drew Smith play basketball I had to watch I had to watch he I had to watch Sila be in the NBA I had to watch Cal guy I had to watch Willie Showtime Reed play in the NBA well I don’t I do not mind watching bronnie James be in the league there are several people who do not deserve to be here a lot they’re in the league though he’s not but go a lot a lot of them out though like and they daddy never gave nothing to the league when LeBron James retires he will be treated just like every other player the harsh reality of the league will hit his ass fast he will be playing in the way games riding on public transit they probably have him catching the city bus won’t be playing at all yes he will be bro he go not be playing at all I only thought I only thought white people can get away with this type of nepotism so this is this is nepotism and its finest I’m again it’s cool he got like Ken griffy and his dad got the play but actually both were really good but that was kind of cool to see them play for a minute together but I don’t know I’m more on like zier Wade should be in the NBA over that’s the talking about some [ __ ] that boy that’s some [ __ ] go James Kingdom it’s all you I’m on mute because we let everybody talk go ahead I’m onom you y this this your time my guy you guys are hilarious man you guys should actually have a whole show about bronnie since y’all know about bronnie so much in the basketball world and gming and all of this stuff here find it funny nepotism all these great words all this comedy stretch that y got going on right now at the end of the day bronny James was going to make the NBA if there was in an NBA rule that you have to wait a year out of high school to actually be in the NBA then he did have the incident where yes he did have Cardiac Arrest at 19 years old he was a young man recovering from heart issues cardiac issues so yeah he didn’t have a great college career he didn’t have all that great legacy that people expect him to have but he was worthy of being drafted he went to the combine plenty of teams saw him plenty of teams worked him out and he was going to be drafted by other teams other than the Lakers so LeBron James had nothing to do with bronny James being drafted he is a very highly potential player he has the athleticism to play in the NBA and he is definitely a rough diamond that needs to get a a you know uh a time to see what he can do no one said that LeBron James I bronny James was going to be the greatest player ever but LeBron James that’s his father you guys are going to criticize a father for thinking his son could be better than than any other NBA player hold on wait wait wait wa wait no no no no no don’t wait nothing let wait wait wait I don’t want to hear none of this I heard white man nepotism you ain’t say wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait when Mickey Aron’s [ __ ] whole family is a part of the whole front office of the Miami he I don’t want to hear [ __ ] don’t come with the nonsense LeBron James is not a GM he has nothing to do with LeBron LeBron James getting a contract he has nothing to do with that he is LeBron James and if he is such you are going to be in for some trouble on Saturday cuz that’s just going to be adding to the goat resume no no no hold on [ __ ] none of your players could add their son to the NBA that’s what you’re basically saying that’s how great LeBron James is that he can legitimately make his son who is an illegitimate basketball player get a four-year guaranteed contract and also say you know what [ __ ] y’all I’m going to not go on the road because I can fly private I’m bronny James [ __ ] I got more followers than any one of you [ __ ] I sell more Jersey than any one of you [ __ ] I’m bronnie James [ __ ] I’m not flying commercial are you this ain’t 1990s I ain’t flying commercial what’s wrong with you again the young man is pressured because we got guys like you all day long talking about a 19yearold old kid yeah he’s not going to sleep at the Holiday end he’s not going to sleep at the daycare center and hang out with some bums that are making $40,000 a year to play basketball that’s bronnie James James my friend he is a potential NBA star and that’s what the Lakers are treating him as we all see the heat do it we all see NBA players our NBA teams grab players that none of us think are going to be stars and they’re supposedly going to be a star two or three years down the line bronny James is one of them stop hating on the goat because he got his son in the NBA if that’s how you want to see it his son was good enough to make the NBA his son is in the NBA and he can do he had a block the other day [ __ ] I wish one of my Miami uh point guard was out here getting [ __ ] blocks we got R out here on the bench I blocked Paul George in real life and I’m ver dude I play with because listen to say LeBron James is not the biggest Le GM ever that is the nastiest live I’ve ever heard on YouTube because when he was on the C he flipped Crowder he flipped Derrick Rose first of all line number one give me line number one that I said please if you don’t think LeBron James got Brony James in the league then how do you explain the how does he get him in the league how did he get a four guarante how do you expl how do you explain wait how do you explain what wait how do you explain how do you no there there was there’s other players who’ve got and from the second round and yes you guys don’t know basketball there’s other players cuz I don’t pay attention to that [ __ ] we’ve talked about this wait wait wait we talked about I’m not I don’t have those players Nam on we wait weal wait we talked about this on go James Kingdom there are players who got drafted in the late second round who also got guaranteed contracts you guys don’t know basketball not don’t say what they got they got guaranteed contracts to play in the NBA you’re sitting here up comp said they got $40,000 contract they got guaranteed contracts my friend they got you don’t know you only know no you only know what bronny James got cuz you know everything about bronny James and the and the James family that is your problem you know nothing about basketball but you know more about LeBron James and his family overall and and that’s happened in NBA and that’s happened in NBA history he’s not the first and he’s not gonna be the last he’s not the first and he’s not the last he’s not the first and he’s not going to be the last dis agree we agree first round picks get guarante second rounds don’t but they do get it sometimes my my question to the panel the Lakers already made that money back they already made that money back the man sold over aund something million the man already made the money back but I’m not arguing that though but I’m just saying like you got teammates making million not y not talking basketball because the young man is working out day in and day out and preparing himself to play basketball you guys don’t know what bronnie James goes through you don’t know his workout regiments you don’t know what none of these guys do you guys all that’s why wait that’s why you guys are mad at Pat Ry for this and you mad at the Heat organization for that none of that [ __ ] got nothing to do with basketball is this like this all the time I’m like this all the time wait wait I like wait wait hold on wait hold wa hold wait I get like this when I sit here and listen to people speak and then when it’s my turn I get cut off and now I can’t speak I can’t say what I got to say but you have so much to say you have so many questions for a Johnny and goat James Kingdom but you don’t allow me to respond I put my mic low tonight because there’s no ticket TV here so my mic is at y’all levels I hope y’all feel comfortable with this because I came here to talk about the heat not y’all obsession with LeBron James and his family I mean it was just a topic so it doesn’t feel like it was a topic no it’s not a topic it’s not a topic it’s not a topic it is is disrespectful for you gentlemen to step on the mic every time just like all these other people on YouTube make all these outlandish claims without any validity without any true proof and evidence just for the fact for you to say I just can’t believe you don’t believe LeBron’s a GM as well you have no proof that LeBron James is sitting with the Lakers organization and brass and saying You must give my son a fouryear guaranteed deal draft him also not let him do this what are y’all talking about I never said what that’s what that’s what it’s saying that’s what you’re saying LeBron James is as a GM he has nothing to do with Derrick Rose going over there in fact he has nothing to do with Kyrie Irving being traded wa for Isaiah Thomas what are y’all talking about he has nothing to do with Mike Miller leaving the heat he has no he has nothing to do with imaginary arguments I heard somebody say this I heard somebody said this no one here saidel said it marel said Thomas I don’t think anybody tell did say this what the Lakers hold on what the Lakers need to do because to answer your question they need to blow that up trade ad for what for what’s left of him trade LeBron James for what he left of him and move on I only did that cuz I know that you know trade ad trade ad cuz he’s the one he’s the one that ain’t going to win you no titles we already know LeBron James can win you a title ad ain’t doing that hey before we switch I ask the panel is is 0.0% from three-point range good Depend and 29% from the field anyway bronny was just never ready in my opinion it’s like what you said he went through all those different things I understand why they know but he don’t know no other player stats that were drafted yeah no like I don’t I don’t disagree I thinkon James deserves what wh stats what’s khir whale stats in in the in the in the in the G League since you know so much how good is he playing or not do you know that he’s he had like 17 17 and 12 okay okay there you go so worry about KH don’t worry about bronnie James not again again since we’re still on here like I’m gonna talk about bronnie James but like I again I think I I disagree in the sense that Brony James doesn’t deserve to be in the NBA I think he does I think he’s earned this place in the league I said that BR just wasn’t listening but like I do think that LeBron James has something to do with that like whether or not he was in there negotiating on behalf of LeBron James I I’m not gonna get into that but to say that like the LeBron James Factor has nothing to do with bronnie James getting a fully guaranteed contract as a second round pick that sounds absurd to me I feel like that is just kind of like a thank you to LeBron from the league it’s not to say that the man won’t be worth it in a couple years or whatever but like he ain’t worth that now like he ain’t wor is a business my man nobody does that for no black kid from akan nobody’s doing that for they do when you considered the greatest player of all time no that that Jordan was considered the greatest player of all time and Jeffrey I hear sniffing Coke in the middle of a morning session what are y’all talking about his children went to UCF to play basketball they did not go to USC bro like they have the basketball Talent go obviously Jordan’s nepotism and bloodline is not enough to get his son to anything great in life that’s the factss if that’s the if that’s what you guys are upset about that LeBron James is such a great father that he’s put his son in the right position yes you did just wait wait you got to the point to this conversation to call me a li a liar to say what I’m saying is absurd you asked me a question just to ridicule me and then get upset how I respond to your silly comments come on brother I’m a grown man I can handle a conversation but can you handle the conversation cuz I’m speaking like a grown man here not like a child you guys are sitting here talking about nepotism in the NBA you guys are talking about LeBron James an NBA player being a GM to the point to where he’s making the Los Angeles Lakers the greatest franchise in B nepotism doesn’t exist in the NBA not to the point where NBA player can get his son drafted no that that’s not how it works nepotism means I own something and pass it down to my son nepotism is jery bus passing down the team to his daughter that’s nepotism LeBron doesn’t own the Lakers he cannot pass down something that doesn’t belong to him that’s not nepm see look look see look you can’t help you can’t help the conversation you have to figure out some damn man please let me hate on LeBron hate LeBron all you want to don’t do it while goat James Kingdom’s here cuz all you I don’t hate LeBron LeBron gave us two Champion you are hating LeBron cuz you’re hating on bronnie that’s hating on LeBron you’re making EXC a 19m nothing Tyler Tyler hero to the top only reason I’m going at him because he called me a lie he’s saying I’m absurd the rest of y’all will making fun of LeBron and hating on a 19-year-old kid there is something wrong with you you are I call you I didn’t call you Anis how was that hate drafted Johnny Johnny let me let me ask you a serious question bro because this is this is this is kind of irritating me a little bit when it comes to what you say how is it just because that we have a different perspective of what you say that we hate on someone we never said that you know what LeBron deserves to be out of League like he’s dumb for doing this we never said any of that we’re I’m speaking from a basketball perspective I watch college basketball I’m a huge college basketball fan I when he was out there playing I wanted LeBron to get more opportunities so he could show his game I think that he has the capabilities of being an NBA player but I just think that he’s because of his situation because of what happened to him I believe he should have been in college for just one more season I’m not saying two or three more just one more season to show what HE capable of and then go to the league that’s all I ever said I never said that he was absolute trash that he should have never even have an opportunity to get to the NBA all I’m saying is because of what happened to him he should have waited because he if you look at his stats just from that he was only averaging like three four four points per game that’s not enough to say that hey he deserves to be a second round pick that’s all I’m saying I’m I’m talking from Strictly a basketball perspective you can’t say that someone’s hating on something when we’re looking at it from just a basketball perspective I never said that he was absolutely terrible all I’m saying is you give the kid another opportunity to play in a competitive league that’s going to help his development in the NBA then give him a chance to be drafted that’s all I ever said and LeBron who says LeBron wasn’t gonna be there next year we know LeBron is not goingon to retire anytime soon maybe the next two or three years but he’s still playing at a good level so why not wait a little bit to give you another chance to show exactly what he could do and if not in if not in college at least have him play all the games in the G league and not only home games that’s all I’m saying that’s that’s not hate that’s just a basketball perspective to to answer your question it is hate no matter how eloquently you just described all of this it is considered hate because you’re not actually speaking truthfully the NBA draft player is based off of potential potentially he does have all the basketball attributes that you want from a player that you’re going to draft in the NBA draft he was that prior to going to college he was an All-American player that means he was one of the best players in high school coming out of high school as a senior what derailed his career and derailed his potential ability was his heart condition which eventually he got over so the NBA was drafting him based off of his potential which he actually does have so he’s earned the right to be in the NBA playing with his father had nothing to do with it is his father helping him because yeah clutch Sports is his agent obviously they’re going to protect bronny James no matter what that’s their job to do that as an agency so they’re doing the job of protecting their client who is a potential NBA star who is also just a regular star outside of playing the game there is no need for him to go to college he doesn’t have to stay in he’s not going to learn nothing from the college game that’s going to translate into the actual NBA they don’t play the same style of basketball they can’t do that so it’s best for him to go now learn what he can with the professionals be the Pros be with the pros to be what he’s trying to become a professional NBA basketball player half of the players who get drafted never have college experience you say you watch a lot of college you should know this majority of the players drafted don’t have a lot of college experience Kyrie Irving was the number one draft pick and he played what 10 games in Duke again he didn’t play just 10 games he also played in a tournament that gave him playing in the tournament gave an put an eye on him it gave him an idea of what he was capable with again I gave you an didn’t have that bronnie didn’t have that opportunity and bronnie didn’t get picked first that’s why he got picked 55th that’s why he was a late second round pick he was picked where he was supposed to be picked I I do agree with that part he’s a he’s a late second round pick you guys are making a big deal over nothing now if you want to say anything was a spectacle in this whole situation you made this a big deal no no how every last one of y’all had a question for me wait I joined this panel to talk the Miami Heat as soon as I got on instead of me talking to Miami Heat with my Heat fans I got six guys had one question I’m not take shot you’re not shot at meu up sing the y’all fou for that y’all fou for that whatever I can tell every last one of y’all got Michael Jordan as to go because y’ take one for the team list Johnny hold on hold on guys hold on because we have to end the stream listen to Johnny every man for thems take this shot you better [ __ ] catch this rebound Martel they were bricking like a [ __ ] listen I brought you on the show for a reason that’s why I continue to bring you back that’s listen I want to have good content I know how you are and I know what to say to keep it going and I know that certain people agree hey Martel pass my information to him matter of fact marel basement when go ahead and go ahead and ban this Joey Welch dude for being very absurd and obnoxious in the comments got and again like I said I am very casual when it comes to talking basketball the problem I have is is that like people say my my supposed opinions or My Views are so outrageous out there too same they they they leg some bot or some [ __ ] they they legitimately don’t let me speak they legitimately come at me and be I listen to everybody say some wild stuff I mean I heard y’all say some foul things about Pat Riley I’m not going to come at you wrong you’re a Heat fan you got a right to say what you want to say but it seems like when I say something it’s a problem y’all ask question y’all ask me a question and I respond now once you start cutting me off and saying like this hold on wait hold on timeout like ticket n they don’t timeout we in the middle of the game right now I got the ball in my hand you better stick me cuz I’m going to score on your ass don’t do that let’s let’s let’s be let’s be real we need a point guard H we need you to play point we do we need a point guard as soon as we get a point guard everything could change bam will be the bam that we know all of that will change it’s it’s killing us because we can’t really get into our offense we can’t get into our offense everything is pred and and mind you we have nobody that can penetrate and attack the basket hold on one second Johnny this is not to cut you eyes off everybody in the chat thank you guys for coming on the show make sure that you guys come on Saturday it’s going to be refused to lose versus goat James Kingdom make sure that you guys are there and then Johnny listen you will always be able to talk on this platform obviously there’s a bunch of guys on this platform it’s going to get heated but no one is purposely trying to cut you off you and Royal definitely have yo bro get my info gang like we have to stream together bro yeah listen goat James Kingdom I’m a John

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