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Jake and Andrew are back with all the details and analysis from their first viewing of the Browns Week 14 matchup with the Steelers in Pittsburgh.

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[Music] oh [Music] [Music] welcome into Browns film breakdown postgame coverage of Browns 27 to4 defeat to the Pittsburgh Steelers the Browns fall to three and 10 the Steelers improved to 10 and three and I I think it’s kind of fitting that their records are exact opposites of each other because it does feel like the Steelers are in many ways having the season that we thought the Browns would be having H hope the Browns would be having uh with a A you know a quarterback that has kind of recaptured his old form uh after a big trade so it is a disappointing result not an unexpected result the Steelers were big favorites and they played like it and kind of controlled the game for the most part even though the Browns were in it for a while but uh I would say mistakes compounded to the point that the Browns were no longer able to compete and once they were down two scores it really felt like the game was over because it didn’t feel like the Browns had the capacity offensively to score uh at will or even to keep up with the Steelers at that point and and then they they fought back and scored a late touchdown relatively meaningless to to make the score a little bit nicer but overall a pretty one-sided game I’m joined by Jake Burns Jake um this is the type of game that you hoped that we wouldn’t see coming down the stretch from the Browns it wasn’t the score is definitely not as ugly as it felt at times in terms of the disparity of effort and the disparity of professionalism I guess I would say the Browns played a sloppy game deserve to lose and it’s just not a very heartening place to be with this team especially considering this is a Steelers team that they just beat a week and a half ago yeah I thought you and I sort of nailed the pregame show where we talked about they couldn’t win with the same formula that they had the first time which was um you know uh giving up the football too many times not coming up with enough defensive stops and all of that played out sort of in real time I mean the Browns have been a team this year that has by far more often than not and this is a pretty safe way to summarize their season have not finished drives some things have worked on some drives but they’ve not finished anywhere near enough of them and then when you consider what we’ll get to with Dustin Hopkins at 16 of 25 converting field goals which it’s already hard enough in the NFL when you put together a drive to give up a field goal and when you’re missing upward of 10 of those in a season it makes it even harder than it is at at the current point and uh you know on top of that they don’t convert enough third downs and then they uh have given up too many uh like like I just would say pivotal moment defensive drives where they just don’t seem to rise to the occasion enough and that has plagued their defense has not been a bad defense been an average defense but again I hearken back to what we spoke about at the beginning of the year like if they were going to be a a team and they could probably be hovering around 500 right now if the defense was Elite again but they’re not and that played itself out in real time did I thought the defense played a decent first half certainly good enough to keep them in the game and offensively they had done enough to make it a tie game close to it coming out of half should have been 1313 uh and then you run into the second half where it’s like oh Pittsburgh capitalizes gets couple drives to get into the end zone and that’s it that’s all she wrote the Browns can’t get to that point total that 27 number uh in this game so yeah that’s uh it’s in in a lot of ways Andrew microcosm of the season was what played out in Pittsburgh today I think that’s right and I think that it really kind of threw us back uh a bit in terms of the jamus Winston conversation right because this is the type of effort that we saw against the Chargers before the bye that really kind of made you doubt whether or not he was going to be able to be a starter for them and then you know I I would say a an efficient performance against the Steelers in Cleveland and then obviously what we saw on Monday night in Denver even in a losing effort just the productivity of that made you think okay what does this look like now for next year and it’s a good reminder that there is some unevenness that’s inherent to his game Beyond just the turnovers right the the inaccuracy that we saw today and I I think just overall not looking as comfortable in running the offense knowing where to go struggling with pressure a lot it it reminded you that he’s he’s not a starter in the league for a reason and the Browns might be able to get a season out of him next year if they want to but it would include games like this real Clunkers where you just kind of feel like it was obvious from the play calling I thought Jake that there were multiple times during the game where they felt like they couldn’t ask jamus to throw the ball and that’s not a position you want to be in uh with NFL offense uh so overall I would say a disappointing performance from him but I thought I’m interested in in your opinion on this just a disappointing performance from the offense in general um there was there was not a a performance from the offense that I would kind of point out as impressive I think Jerry Judy had a good game you know we’re watching his touchdown catch here now uh I think he played well but no nobody that that I kind of left the game saying wow that that’s really what they needed to win no I I don’t I certainly don’t think so either um you know in a matter of a game like this they needed somebody to rise up and have a pretty ridiculous game and I thought it I thought it started out strong there was some indication like oh okay these guys could maybe put something together could maybe find a way to you know uh create out of out of chaos or something like that and we we were seeing that like I said with some of the uh you know some of the stuff early and then you had really one Z late there to to in joku that led to a score but but you know largely Andrew when we’re talking about performances from this game those the only two that’s that’s stood out as far as plays that were made sort of down the field so you know when you you know when you analyze it from the perspective of like these guys can’t seem to put it together enough drives enough plays jamus what do you have 212 and a couple touchdowns a couple interceptions definitely not you know the performance that he needed to have and those were a lot of padded stats late into the game I think they were only sitting at like 120 yards at various points in the um middle of the third quarter before the game’s outcome was was late third quarter 27 to7 and it was largely decided so yeah I mean I thought Jerry Judy given opportunity played pretty well he had uh targets six targets five catches 65 yards 64 yards something like that so I thought he was fine I don’t know that he got enough targets and then uh the the the thing that stood out to me was auxiliary help wise I think Elijah Moore had three for 35 five or something along those lines and a big Target game for David 13 targets uh that he only hauls in seven of those and there’s the final kind of jump ball that we showed there that’s a 15 yard touchdown if you take that away I mean it’s a 12 Target six catch 27 yard game that’s like a lot of those late down targets were going to him and not rendering much separation and he obviously wasn’t winning the football so it was pretty rough from that perspective and I wouldn’t call that a great game from David even though the last touchdown kind of puts it in that into that world but but I think the formula Andrew and what I would say that I have noticed is teams that give jamus the most issue are those who uh are able to get pressure with their front organically and then from that pressure with their front uh they’re able to drop a lot of guys into coverage and when they’re able to drop you know guys into coverage I think that turns into a situation where um jamus is is is going to struggle we’re watching here the interception like he just can’t make those critical decisions at the right moment like that should be a dirted football but he can’t seem to get through and understand like hey at this moment right here there’s pressure there’s somebody sitting right behind Nick there’s a re redirection from Keanu B there number 95 like I should put this football into the ground and Live to play second down he can’t seem to do that and then what I was kind of getting at is that’s a pressure look so that is kind of unique in the fact that it’s uh a pressure look in that moment Andrew but like like the the thing that he struggles with is teams who drop six or seeven drop seven into coverage and can bring four and create a bunch of chaos for him where he can’t you know have a clear decisive passing Lane to throw to so if the scheme doesn’t give him an answer and teams like the Chargers and the Steelers who created enough pressure to not have him have open Windows behind it that’s where he has struggled in two games the most this season you know if you look at Baltimore there were a lot of man coverage and a lot of pressure packages so he was able to identify and without much confus post Snap get a football delivered he just looked confused today he didn’t feel comfortable processing out what was going on in coverage paired with what he was doing scrambling wise a lot of dropped eyes in that scenario too and when you add in dropped eyes and you add in some of the other stuff like he’s creating his own pressure he’s really didn’t throw the football very accurately today and then you have some rough decision-making and I would consider this probably on par or worse than that Chargers game performance so um this is the worst version of him this is the worst version of him and then you know you get the good version but then you still have a couple plays that can also undo it if the if the you know if that um Broncos game is the biggest indication so yeah just just a tough tough tough way to live at that position is how it’s kind of got to be I mean that’s a great point about even the the high tide which was Monday night didn’t result in a win right it was incredibly impressive from a statistical measure and he played a really good game I’m not trying to take anything away from him but the mistake takes were of such a critical nature that it undid a lot of the good work that he that he did throughout the game and so you end up back kind of where you started and it it I I know that this season is not just about who the quarterback for next year is going to be that kind of maybe competes with DeShaun Watson or is that bridge quarterback for them but it is obviously a big part of it right and I think we’ve talked about before James Winston has this opportunity before him to do the sorts of things that would make it so that the Browns felt like they didn’t have a choice if he could have recreated the the success that Joe Flaco had down the stretch even though the record is worse and they’re not going to the playoffs last year they didn’t feel that they could sign Flaco because they didn’t want to put that pressure on Watson that decision would have been reversed this year I think and and Winston would be back this sort of unevenness it makes it hard to say okay we definitely need to bring this guy back and I think that then you start to have these questions about who that person is but beyond the quarterback play I also wanted to talk you know offensively the Run game uh conversation is is here again because it was the another week where if they’re under Center they’re not running the ball and if they’re in shotgun things are are better but still not overly consistent it’s something you’ve been doing a great job talking about on our website and also on the podcast so I was hoping you could kind of break down this one in terms of seeing some of those Trends continue and what it looked like to you today yeah I mean if you if you count for the Jerome Ford negative 5 yard run there um on fourth down I mean I think the Browns were four carries under Center jamus was one of them on a quarterback sneak for two they went for like negative four yards under Center on four or five carries they can’t do it the first play of the game offensively was an indication of like these guys cannot solve how to block a box right now they can’t do it they’re not moving the they’re not moving the point of attack so last week I think that they were 10 carry 17 yards under Center this week um yeah it’s it’s worse again even you know last week was better shotgun and it was better than a gun today I mean Nick had nine for 53 largely ated he had a 19 yard run in there too but it was good I mean he was again they were effective like 5.9 a carry for him Jerome for was nine for 33 not great but still something to lean into and then jamus had two designed where he kept it and um on a read scheme he could he could pull the football out and and uh uh pull and run and he had a couple of those another one was a scramble I think so it’s it’s kind of hesitant to give him credit for that but they I mean 21 for 1112 from the gun is fine that’s good enough but it speaks to The A Team just loses any ability with an IM an immobile quarterback to get under Center and have deceptive play action under Center it it eliminates a large part of what their playbook wants to be if you cannot get under Center and do anything from under Center that matters and then you like you said you lose any run pass conflict because you know hey we’re not really worried about being aggressively downhill against the run under Center because our front can handle it and we’ll get to it when we get to it we’ll punch out quickly so um bad bad offensive line game under Center and really what they’ve turned into Andrew is a team that finesse prefers a finesse blocking approach they want to run laterally from the gun and from that either RPO design or a lateral penpol or a lateral wide Zone they they they want to um lean in and I don’t know if the nature of RPO work that they did all preseason need to where you’re just sort of getting more comfortable with position blocking than anything else I just we be interested to see if they can be an effective gun run team it doesn’t you know it doesn’t kill you so much but I just do think that there is a world they want to live in where they can get under Center and create downfield shot throws off of their play action under Center and if they can’t do that then it just it it leans into a recreation of what you want to be week to week which I think is such a such a challenge uh for for both of those guys even Ken doesn’t want to necessarily as an OC he lived that way so yeah it’s a it’s a problem uh because I don’t think that they have a dynamic consistent shotgun drop back passer in their organization right now that you can lean into to handle that you know Cincinnati’s run into those types of games with Joe burrow where he’s had to have a ridiculous amount of dropbacks there have been these quarterbacks that have handled that as their teams have struggled in the Run game but they’re just more talented they’re more consistent football players and James just he’s just not that and then you put yourself in this situation where the only things you can do play action-wise involve shotgun and it just doesn’t create the type of commitment in the back half of the defense to the run to make it a more meaningful um you know uh part of your offense and that’s that’s a problem and it loses against good defenses and Broncos are certainly good but they’re they’re they’re definitely not as um uh programmed up or disciplined as I would say Pittsburgh has been uh over the years and their guys have bought into that to that style and and uh obviously a much more consistently threatening front uh than even though Denver has a lot of sacks I think some of stuff can get be a bit of a mirage for pressure where you just you land a bunch of sacks because there’s not a ton of respect and you know I’m I’m Pittsburgh is as fear to pass rush as you’ll find across the NFL and they got high Smith back for this game so I just am getting at like losing that part of your playbook is massive and it cannot be handwaved away by being like well they’re better out of the gun they run it well what what a trickle effect does that have on your team and your approach and your mentality and um that’s you know as we’ve seen it’s a hindrance to their overall General efficiency yeah I’m thinking about this in the context of where Andy Dickerson came from the offensive line coach and what his background is and having just watched the Rams put 44 points on the bills and what that offense is doing and the way that they’ve kind of redesigned their offensive line over the past few years to be a lot more downhill under Center run um heavy than they were previously under McVey and just wondering about I I I guess I just wonder about the fit of all of the offensive staff members right like I think the best case scenario when we looked at this in the offseason was that you would get the parts of the Kevin stefansky Run game and play action game that worked so well and then you would marry those with some past Concepts and maybe some RPO stuff from Ken dorsy and it’s like a plus plus a plus and instead it feels like the to some extent the opposite of that Jake where we we see a lot more of the Run stuff that was more of a liability for both the bills and the Rams at times in previous years in terms of being able to get under Center and run it when they need to run it and then passing game wise it has been when the Kevin stansky stuff works it works but when it doesn’t they don’t really have answers against these sorts of defenses like you said so maybe that’s an oversimplification but it I I think Jake really hated that theory he just bailed totally that’s fair that’s fair I get it uh my my point is is that I think that the uh the overall effect it feels like they jack of all trades master of none and there’s not a thing last week against Denver I feel like that was a lot about some of the Personnel issues on Denver side and the scheme matching up really well but in a game like this in a divisional game where the Steelers know so well what the Browns want to do I would struggle to tell you Jake what it was that they could do reliably in this game on offense and it just feels like in these situations or that game against the Chargers they don’t have an answer no and I I would argue that they didn’t have an answer last week I mean they’re throwing it 65 time dropping back 65 times so like that’s a good point yeah they put up some points and that was fun and there were some downfield throws and and you can’t deny that but you cannot it’s really hard I think we talked about this um earlier in the week on like like as a quarterback having the burden of dropping back 65 times it’s just a lot and when your margin of error is is that Expos like your uh just sheer opportunity is that that wide mistakes are going to be made it’s just it’s really hard to do that the hardest thing to do is drop back and throw the football and when you’re asked to do it 65 times that just yields more issue and and you know then you play a team that defends the pass and doesn’t you know doesn’t have an issue with their quarters versus these looks and we can’t scheme them up the way they did last week like yeah Andrew it’s it’s a bad it’s an awful formula and these last four games are not going to be pretty uh especially if if there’s no no ability to lean into the Run game to obviously create efficiency but then also give you some things in the pass game off that run game that’s that’s something again worth noting is like yes the Browns had some run from gun success but one of the best aspects of gun run or any run I shouldn’t even say gun run is that that run threat opens up so many things in your passing game stretches the fields 53 gives you more horizontal excuse me vertical spacing to either hit the second or third Lev level or over the top and yeah the gun run stuff is more efficient and it was fine 80 yards or so on what 18 carries but it’s not helping your pass game at all and that’s the thing to understand is like they’re not to your point there is not a cohesive offense that builds on itself within every snap there is not a threat every snap it is more of just a um you know pick a play thing like it’s not like right does like there’s there’s there’s a football Beauty in the art of play calling called sequencing where this play Builds on this play that builds on that play that threatens that play and I feel like the Browns have had one of the worst sequencing years I can recall where it just feels like they’re trying to fight to get a first down let alone thinking five plays down the road they’re just fighting to get in position to have a chance to not have a third and long right let alone sequencing and thinking and being out in front of what’s coming down the road and that is um again it speaks to the bigger issue now that Andrew comes from the question of was Kevin forced to replace his people this past off season right and is one year of all these new people enough right to to to Really make a full-on judgment of of either Kevin’s ability or all of these guys to put something together that uh that works and I don’t have the right answer for that right now right I but I think that’s where my mind goes because that’s it it you kind of just develop that feeling watching it that it feels like too many cooks in the kitchen not a clear identity those sorts of cliches and yeah exactly the fourth Ines call is a perfect example and I and I’ll elaborate on that if you don’t mind real quick no please go ahead yeah that play is probably like you know you step up to the line what I would like to do in that scenario is say if you get up to the line and you feel good about a sneak the a gaps aren’t stuff there’s not a walked up line just run it if you want to check here’s what we do the problem with that play and I don’t know I can’t guarantee you that if this block happens it it it it it goes for a first down um but they are calling a crack block from Mike Woods on Al Landon Roberts which is it’s not a great block scenario for a guy like Mike Woods Aton Roberts is one of the most physical linebackers in the NFL in terms of just hitting you in the mouth he put Ethan posk into a temporary paral is on on on a lateral Run play Early in the game plays violently he plays that’s a great way to put he actually had a when he was with the dolphins a few years going don’t if you recall this had one of the better hits on Nick chub meeting him in the hole and really planting him so he plays physical and asking Mike Woods to crack block that player uh first Mike’s effort was awful but second all of all that’s a tough ask like that’s a really tough ask when you’re playing in a fourth and one where a linebacker has no fear of any pass game conflict and um there’s a shared responsibility a failure on those sorts of things and it also it’s it’s funny Andrew it stems from three things uh obviously the coach making a risky call there that I don’t think necessarily felt like it needed to be forced into that moment second of all is asking your coach um your player doesn’t get it done your coach asking that player to get that job done is tough and then the third element of that which is at the top is if you want to run an off that ask wide receivers to be grown men blockers you got to draft that type of player and acquire that type of player and put that player in that position whoever your best blocking wide receiver is has to be there to do that job and I guess if it’s Mike Woods no offense to Mike but that’s speaks to how it’s a full circle pie chart of blame that goes on I’ll tell you who it’s not it’s not cadarius Tony it sure isn’t Andrew we have we’ve pinned that down pinned it down yeah I and and I I just like want to build off of your point here because yeah Jamari thrash I think is out with a shoulder injury today it wasn’t 100% clear he was questionable going into the game he was inactive he’s not going to be your your blocking type there either they don’t really have that depth but they have spent the time to put cadarius Tony on the practice squad keep him around all season and then bring him up for the end of the season and he has been as predictably frustrating and and disappointing and stupid mistake making as you you could have called that from September or October when the transaction was made and what I’ll say about it is that it’s not the most egregious part of being three and 10 but I do think that it really encapsulates a bad habit that Andrew Barry just cannot seem to break which is this is a talented athlete who was drafted High we’ve got to spend a roster spot we’ve got to spend some time seeing if we can get any sort of surplus value out of this player he’s addicted to that especially guys that are kind of idiots right that’s the the the the the the Classic Special is first High highly drafted and kind of a head case if you can get both of those Andrew Barry’s like on the phone right away and again you can take those chances from time to time but it almost becomes a parody of itself when it happens every time and then he makes a a penalty mistake and then you know the fumble that ends the game I mean even if the game was over it effectively ended the game and doesn’t provide anything offensively so what is that he had one good punt return what is that player doing and what other young player that has a scope for development is being replaced by cadarius Tony which it the sort of player that is again transparently a waste of their time yeah it’s uh it’s a it’s a really hard one to understand we’ve seen The Best of cadarius Tony as a wide receiver we’ve seen the best of him work with Patrick Mahomes and like what about a guy who is clearly a mental um problem he’s got he’s a uh let me make sure I’m very buttoned up on this he has mental instability with making winning decisions say it that way and he has been involved in situations um the Giants were not and he proved to you how badly the Giants wanted him out of there Casey had him who could use him like few could got something out of him before he made enough decisions that said we don’t want him around anymore we are yeah we’ve got a bunch of failed Sky Moore these guys are we have no wide receiver situation that’s any good here at that time and they’re like yeah we’re we’re good here so what makes you think a guy like that’s going to come into Cleveland a place struggling to find enough people doing the right thing the right way to win ball games especially this season and when they brought him in the writing was on the wall at that point what’s the chances he turns into something meaningful you for for you maybe what like like a sh under 1% and like the the the the likelihood that the thing like today happened or he is a an annoying voice in your locker room of negativity that we don’t even know about but just like listen to him talk publicly about how his teams have played or how he plays or to fans like what good can come from that and then today like you brought him up a couple times and he was an absolute non-factor and then you bring him up today and you hey man you go return puns and yeah he had won but he caught one inside the 5 yard line it’s is just a habitual thing for the Browns return team it’s neither here nor there maybe part of more broad discussion about special teams but like I cannot fathom what would make you think that was a good idea about like oh man the upside of cadarius Tony figuring out how to be something meaningful for a team like this like that it’s like hey M can you read the room you need people that are just going to keep their head down and work hard like canaras Tony is not so talented that you should swing like I can understand some of it when Kareem hunt was put into Cleveland because of that like because he was good he was really good and like I just I I I mean yeah let me let me just like it help contextualize this right Jake because the Browns have cetric Tillman who’s got this concussion which is concerning in and of its own right that it has not resolved yet he’s out for this game you’ve you’ve added Mike Woods to the active roster you’ve got Jerry Judy you’ve got Elijah Moore you’ve got Mike Woods those are your starting three wide receivers right those those are the top three on the depth chart the other two wide receivers active for this game are cadarius Tony and James procha and those guys don’t really play wide receiver they’re not fully formed wide receivers so the Browns went into this game Jake with three honest to God wide receivers and that’s that’s the sort of stuff when you look at why the Browns are where they are again that’s not what won them or lost them this game but it shows a lack of in my mind an understanding of what it takes to win football games where there are there there are not players on the bottom of the roster in some of these positions that you can count on to do a small job well and we see you mentioned that they keep catching punts inside the 10 that those sorts of things come up again and again where the guys at the back end of the roster or you want to talk about the cornerbacks that they keep on the roster that play special teams but can’t play corner and when that comes up it always bites them in the butt this is a roster construction issue that keeps coming up for the Browns where they are playing short-handed because the general manager is trying to turn he’s trying to go you know like Antiques Road show or whatever and find gold in the trash and it keeps not working and it’s really frustrating yeah and and and to sort of I guess put a bow on that is like you’re watching the other side uh and and Pittsburgh deserves credit for a lot of things but you know a guy like Scotty Miller making that catch at the very end to have the faith to throw a football a moonball I’m so flabbergasted out Pittsburgh has done that across like eight quarterbacks now uh just moonball it up and I guess Russ has always done that so I should be careful he’s he’s always done that but it is weird how there’s been like a feature of Ben duck Hodes Mason tick it’s so weird Mike Tomlin has to know how hard that is to defend and so he just he tells his offensive coordinator yeah we’re going to throw back shoulder Fades down the field yeah we’re going to quot a unit seven of these I don’t feel like the Browns run any lobbed back shoulder Fates they just don’t do it the one that Mike Woods had the OPI on yeah but even like that I’m talking like that moonball stuff where I just the Pittsburgh has always done this where it’s just lobbed it’s like lob it and go get it but anyway uh you you look at that and it’s like they’re and they talk about it and people scoff at this culture thing I it’s very real I don’t think I think if you’re ignoring culture I think that’s uh uh proceed with caution because like Pittsburgh has had a means by which for the most part the percentage of hit here is high where they get more out of those guys we’re talking about I I am just saying caderas Tony wouldn’t be the same if Pittsburgh brought him in versus when Cleveland does because they they these guys they have a way of making them believe that they’re a part of winning and they’re going to do whatever it takes to win and listen there are examples of Pittsburgh guys that fail this is not foolproof but I’m just saying their hit rate on these guys the ability to bring up these players and instill a belief in them and play in this this fashion is a credit to Tom and a credit to that organization and just something the Browns are striving to figure out how to do they can’t figure out how to do it so yeah you’re talking about is cadarius Tony more talented than Scotty Miller by a mile but one guy is like able to Fe where the guy is throwing the football as a returner somebody who said him or muffing a punt like right it just that’s just the nature of it Andrew that’s that’s the belief that that uh they have instilled there and uh it’s bearing fruit yeah that’s I mean that that is the the bottom of the of the line here is that when you have losses like this on top of the other losses that they have you start to look at these more nitpicky things and dig into the weeds I know that it’s very small bore but I do think it’s emblematic of a problem across the roster with the depth of the roster not contributing as much as you’d like into at times that’s that’s not true everywhere though I you know we should talk about the defense a little bit Jake I thought we saw some good performances from some of those depth type players uh at times and I thought that there was was some reason to think that the defense was going to keep them in this you kind of said off the top it’s not a it’s not a dominant defense it’s not a a top five top 10 unit it’s an average defense but with a different sort of offensive performance they could be in these games and make some of these plays they still have miles Garrett they still have Denzel Ward they have difference makers but they really struggle Jake when they’re put behind the eightball like they were today play playing from behind not able to really get much of a pass rush trying to tackle Jaylen Warren which was a nightmare for them all day and they then they have those moments in the second half where the Browns you know they have the the fourth down conversion that doesn’t go they have the turnover and they’ve got these relatively short Fields they’ve got these Quick Change situations and the defense has to kind of bow up in those moments and and they all season have not really lived up to those moments no no that’s about as well said as it can be for for like when you when you put a how do how do we best describe what has gone on with this team it’s it’s like uh you’re you’re right that there are guys who have stepped up and there are some guys who have who have played well but it’s a run of these these moments where the the two kicks today you could feel it you could feel the life getting sucked out of the whole thing because you know the offense is grinding against that defense and that crowd to go put some points on the board and hey man we could be tied right think about it from this perspective and listen do I want the defense to overcome yes but look at the way some of these defenses who play really well and win these close games they don’t deal with as many kicks in the stomach right as like all of this so you know to go down the field have a short 36 y right before half let’s take this thing in 1010 or 1310 or whatever it was at that point this will feel all right I think it might have been 1010 but anyway it was 13-7 when he missed that first kick yeah right on yeah so again you get it to 1310 you feel pretty good you come out of half even after that Miss and you have a 59 yard kickoff return and yeah do you want the offense to score sure but that Pittsburgh defense is good and you know to beat those guys you’re going to have to win that sort of Slug It Out low-scoring 174 game maybe and I feel like the defense has had a season long and I was against this idea earlier in the year I’ve tried to back off of this like giving them excuses but it does get so frustrating to have like in these games everything rolls downhill and like at that point you start to just become less mentally tough and it’s like all right another missed 42 yard like another missed easy kick we’re doing this again then they get it to third down and eight and they get about to get another stop and then they bring a pressure and Russell Wilson sneaks out the middle of the line and throws a ball to Pat FR Mo and then it’s again it’s rolling it’s rolling downhill where it feels like this year they can’t put the shovel down and climb out they just keep digging and I do think it is at the point for this defense who is they’ve had Clunkers man like that that you know New Orleans game was a clunker I certainly don’t think last week was one of their best efforts but but they’re you know they’ve been good enough to win Andrew a lot of weeks this year and uh it just I just feel like they’re constantly uh the weight of it all const stantly on you like that is um you know was is just it’s a lot it’s a lot to handle so uh I don’t I don’t blame them for not being as good uh consistently as we’d hope because they’ve just been by the Special Teams or by their own offense and the kicker put into these these just ridiculous holes of uh Misfortune and they’re trying to constantly fight for life out there man I I think that’s fair and yeah I I it’s not even so much about yeah placing that blame as as a just is kind of noticing as it happens like you said the that first field goal miss and then they get the ball back to start the second half have the chance and then they miss again and then the fourth down by the end of that the the defense has really checked out and watching that happen in real time and kind of to be honest with you Jake expecting it based on what we’ve seen from the defense through the year so far is disheartening just from the standpoint that this has been a year where those sorts of things when they can go wrong have gone wrong like you said and they aren’t able to bounce back and it it you know that you have the the examples the exceptions to that rule you have the the game against the Ravens the game against the Steelers but it’s not enough it’s you know it’s three and 10 so there’s a lot more losses than there are wins so I I think that you know I want to try and hold off on any big picture conversations on these wrap-ups because we we just it we we’ll end up saying the same thing week after week right we don’t know there’s a lot of questions it feels like all the indications have been that these guys are coming back but 3 and 10 is three and 10 they’ve got a tough schedule remaining so we’ll just keep kind of seeing how things fall uh next week uh at home against the Kansas City Chiefs so the assignment does not get any easier um I think we’ll we’ll leave things there and come back with you tomorrow for more on this game and what uh round two of Steelers Browns was like uh of course the full offensive and defensive film rooms will be up this week on Browns film breakdown. comom as well as plenty of other insights about the Browns latest defeat and the path forward uh dayby day so keep it uh tuned to brownone brown.com and then of course the podcast uh will have something on a daily basis as well about your favorite team so thank you for joining us tonight for Jake I’m Andrew until next time everybody be well go Browns all right go Browns [Music]

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