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Jay here stretford Paddock that’s Joe Smith and this is the analysis show this is where postmatch a few hours after the game’s finished we’ve calmed ourselves down after the emphatic late winner from Ahmad Dio at the etad and we go into the nuts and bols of the game we have a little bit of the postmatch press conference so little clips of Ruben amim telling everyone how he’s got Pep’s number and then we’ll go with into some goals as well so we can analyze just how we scored those goals how we got the penalty what went wrong and what went right obviously more went right than went wrong but we’ll be getting into it the main thing is that you lot yes you comment in the chat and get involved and hit that like button as well please people Joseph yes where we starting my brother well there’s a lot a lot of places we can start and I think it’s worth mentioning first of all that pep did something different today to try to counter Amor him and I think on the whole it didn’t really work I know that pep house played a three at the back at times and often in possession they will play a three at the back but it it was particularly three at the Bish today by comparison and I don’t know whether that was just to sort of like mirror the image of what United were doing in able in order to be able to sort of go man Forman and counter us or whether it was um something different whether it’s the injuries in Midfield I’m not quite sure but he tried something a little bit different and I don’t think it worked and I think that for the second time in three weeks or four weeks amram’s got the better of him and and I don’t I don’t just mean that because mat Nunes happened to pass the ball back and ammad capitalized on it but I think when you look at the way the game went we had level possession with Man City we had as many shots as they did we had more XG than they did we did more than they did with the ball like we beat Man City and deserve to the stats show that we deserve to I know that they had a decent chunks of this ball at times we we would hold on to it very well as well and it’s that’s something that we haven’t really done it at the atad in years like we’ve won Gam games there but it’s been Smash and grab 68% possession to Man City and we’ve deserved to win some as well but it’s never been a game where we go there and hold the ball as much as them I can’t remember the last time we did that um and obviously City here in their worst form in you know pushing probably 20 years or or more but it still takes something to go there and do that and I think amam has to get a lot of credit for that I think I want to start with City’s goal because this was basically the only good chance they had the you know the the main good chance they had we can see IM medely the thing that you want to look at or the thing that people always look at in these situations is who’s marking the man yeah where you know there must be a mistake here the first thing to mention is they get lucky in the fact that the ball hits Amad to toe and gets deflected um toward the back post towards guardal but it’s worth mention another assist for D the kid’s just on fire can’t help himself bless him there’s nothing wrong with that situation that we see there we’ve got two on one we’ve got a man in front in uh in doow and a man that should be square on sort of side on to guardal to put him on off um in Rasmus hland as well that should be okay yeah United if you look across the back line we’ve got one 2 3 four five against cities one two three obviously you got the extra man at the back post but that’s the risk you take when you’re defending you can’t you know but that that that all lines up well United have got enough going on there to be able to stop that the problem is from that position Rasmus holand and I’m not quite sure why rushes to go alongside Dow whereas before you can see he was behind him perfectly in line with guardal now all of a sudden he’s so I’ve jumped too far ahead he’s jumped and he’s now left guardal behind him for no real reason you know what that goal reminded me of one do you remember the four all against ever when we drew the league was s yeah right Johnny Evans and Rio Johnny Evans did the same with Fellaini if you watch Johnny Evans runs to Rio both go for the same ball like Johnny Evans leaves his man and it’s like he goes right I need to get the ball yeah Rio’s already going for the ball and they both sort of go for it and he goes to Fellaini who scores the the header yeah and it’s and it is a little bit infuriating because I think you see here obviously now as the as the header comes in guardi’s between the two of them puts the ball past um uh on and goal but it goes to show that doesn’t it like defending being a defensive header of the ball is so different to trying to win a header in the opposition’s box like hland can take a risk in the opposition box you can go for it if you get it right it works if not great um if not then who cares whereas when you’re defending you can’t make mistakes like that because you it will cost you games like that is that’s that’s a crucial problem but again he’s not a Defender so I guess maybe give him a bit of a a bit of a breather on that you give him a bit of a break but it is a pretty poor mistake I think from holand because Dow maybe could have checked his back a little bit more checked what was coming but from that position there it’s pretty obvious that between the two of them they should handle that deflection or not they shouldn’t be both be getting done and the thing is as well it’s a free Header by the time it comes to him no United players touching him pushing him trying to you know Elber him get him off the off the ball yeah at the very least straight to you’ve got to be St in his way yeah like making it hard for him like Martinez is I know he gets some stick for the forest goal but martinz is very good at he’s only 5 foot n or whatever he is yeah but you’ve seen him in games even going back to his Ajax days where he’s up against bigger Strikers yeah and he’ll just put them off he’ll just do enough to put him off you just got to knock him off the stride a little bit and there’s none of that so incredibly frustrating we know that man conceded set pieces I always feel the worst when we do give away a corner we sort against n we sort against n Forest I think we’ve got the highest number of goals conceded from Corners in the Premier League this season which isn’t really surprise um and that was just a sloppy one and annoying one because I agree with completely what you said I don’t think Manchester City would particularly creating lots of chances in that first half the the best chance fell to the Alo I think he might have been offside to be fair but they had lots of the ball without doing much with it and I think I mean that’s that’s the negative stuff over and done with now by the way we can get get onto the exitting I’m glad I’m glad we I think the great thing or one of the things that we see about this team or under Amar but more importantly just Personnel wise ammad is his is his work rate he running off the ball his movement off the ball is exceptional and and it’s almost a mirror image these two goals the run that Amad makes is almost the same in both goals and we’ll get to United’s first goal now this is where United’s first goal comes from like not really sitting in any danger at all you know United just pressing nicely we’ve got a few players man for man across the pitch um Mayu forcing Walker out to Nunes but from there that is not a situation where you should be conceding a goal but for the Run of Amad dialo and it’s a bad ball as well of course from Nunes but as soon as it sets off I think this is uh I think this is guardo back here he isn’t running and Ahmad is that’s the difference he’s walking there you can see from his body shape he’s walking ahmad’s sprinting and he gets to the ball first like it just makes all the difference when you got players willing to make those runs in behind Gamble take chances cuz in in in all reality if he just if Amad just walks here and he doesn’t make that run no one’s going to have a go at him no you’d go oh fair enough he he’s saving a bit of energy fair enough we’ve got a press we’ve got to do this instead he he just goes for it and he Sprints and he gets the ball back and he wins the ball in in the right areas and all of a sudden it’s a one-on-one with their goalkeeper and from that point on he gets it dead right he slows the game down he can’t take the shot from the angle that he has and then all of a sudden Nunez desperate to come back in to make up for his mistake stake cleans him out and like you said should have got a booking I don’t really know why he did yeah that I know it’s a minor but I don’t get how that wasn’t a bookable challenge a bookable fense it just wipes him out doesn’t get near the ball and ahad’s obviously trying to create a goalscoring chance by every metric it’s a yell and he just didn’t get one it just annoyed me a little bit I know it don’t matter we got a penalty but I just think why why are they not applying the rules yeah it’s a bit of quality from Amad on the ball but the the main thing for me is that run and the willingness to make that run even though City have got the ball not the one you know there’s no reason for him to think he’s going to win The Possession there but making that run preempting what’s going to happen and it’s not the first time Rasmus holand did it in midweek as soon as he comes on the difference in Personnel he’s making that running behind he intercepts their ball and he gets one-onone with the goalkeeper within minutes of coming on and from there we go on and we push and we win the game um obviously like I said from there United score the penalty Bruno dispatches it quite comfortably but the big thing for me in this game like we said at the start is this wasn’t just a a smash and grab United deserve to win this game and Ruben Amon was speaking afterwards in his press conference we’ve got a clip here of him basically saying the same thing obviously you needed two late goals but you think over the the course of the 90 minutes you probably deserve to win I I think so uh it’s hard to say now and I’m a coach of Manchester United um but I think we did a great job we controlled very well um Manchester City we we didn’t allow much of course we don’t create so much either but was a divided game but we believe it a lot uh different from arsenal we controlled the game of Arsenal first in the in the first half but I I didn’t feel that that belief in today I felt it that I think that was the key point to change the game yeah now R obviously making a point about deserving to win and I I completely agree and a few people here have mentioned this as well in the chat just I’ve lost some of the names let me find one of them do doily says we should have had two pens today um ma says the foul on hland by Diaz was a clip it was it was I don’t get it like and I can say it I’m not being bit we won and we got a penalty but I don’t understand how that wasn’t deemed a foul because he didn’t get the ball he took he he took holand out I think the only way I can explain it is I saw it for the W I think it was Wolves game the other night where they they sort of explained it in commentary as if you fall a little bit unnaturally like did he was he already going down like when he sort of the contact was initiated was was it not quite I’m not I’m not saying it isn’t a penalty I’m saying it is I’m saying if they are look at it and go it’s a bit of an unnatural they can not give you a penalty because that that was the point they were making and that’s the only reason I can think him yet did a lot of that and G it’s not a pen because or maybe the flip side more maybe another point is Taylor’s not giving it he’s right there do they think all right we’ll go with the referees decision because we don’t feel there’s enough to go clear and obvious you got it wrong but for me it was a penalty yeah and on your point about the going going down a bit easily or making a bit of a show of it the problem with that argument is I think the threshold for that needs to be very high because so often players who when they don’t go down no foul is given look at Bruno against um Everton yeah you have to go down or otherwise you don’t get a penalty so from that point you you’ve accepted that the the player has to go down in a situation where they probably could keep themselves up if they really wanted to like if you would if you would fall off a building rather than fall over you could probably keep yourself up but that you you accept that they have to go down when they don’t really need to and yet if they look like they’re going down on purpose you don’t give a penalty you have to you know we have to kind of meet in the middle somewhere here so yeah it was a Stonewall penalty for me that one Diaz puts his leg across uh um holand and doesn’t get the ball and hland trips over yeah just a couple there’s a bit of a debate going on here so I’m going to clear it up tab Khan says is this the first game United haven’t had an academy player in the starting 11 or the starting in the squad in over 100 years everyone say no CU kobby May was in the squad and then it it’s not the record isn’t about the the first 11 no we’ve had games before where there’s been no starting player from the academy or com fre Academy the record is the match day Squad um which is going goes back to the 30s I think or maybe even a bit earlier uh so that was the the record um that that that people are on about yeah um I want to move on to United’s second goal now because remember the the run from the first the from United’s first goal that amhad makes it’s almost exactly the Run that he makes for the second goal except this time we’re the ones on in possession so you see here Martinez um with the ball at his feet and Ahmad I’m going to circle him at the top of the screen there again basically making the exact same run from the same part of the pitch and obviously this time he’s doing it because he expects the pass and Martinez actually Waits a little bit he doesn’t play it straight away he allows um Amad to sort of burst into that Gap in the middle which again I don’t really know what’s going on why he’s not being tracked properly there but there’s this huge gap in the middle of the pitch that man city have left us where he can just run straight between those two players Ian if you’re p Guard right as analytical and as obsessive as you are in a in a spell where you’ve won one out of 10 games where the scousers and Arsenal have both dropped points where it’s a Manchester Derby the last time you played the united in a competitive game because no one cares about the community Shield you lost the FA Cup Final yeah and you see that yeah Defenders switching off do you know what I think is this is why runs off the ball are so important because guardi here I think is keeping eye on kobby Manu that’s why this Gap appears yeah because he thinks that it’s more likely that kobby Mayu receives that ball than Amaro makes that run and martinz who’s the player there is it the who’s the back post here I think that’s uh I believe it’s Nunes right okay I think it’s Nunes because I’m looking at him and I’m thinking right he’s he he can see everything there can he he should be able to see D um Ms on his toes but he’s so if we move forward he’s probably left it too late you can see there he’s just switched off from from the Mayu position he was looking at Mayu and now he’s realized he’s got to go backwards but by that point it’s too late and ahad’s in behind and from there it’s obviously phenomenal just you know a great touch that last minute touch there that just takes it away uh from Edison and from there again goes around the corner great finish as well and slots in the back of the net can we find out the XG for that does anyone know for the the finish it was 0.5 I was going to say like that chance is barely a half chance like when it when it’s the ball played over the top I think yeah he’s he’s just he’s not out of nothing obviously he a great ball by from this position here you see that there yeah that isn’t a he’s about to score for sure because the ball’s coming in like the way the ball’s coming in if that ball was sort of you know hit forward with Pace or whatever well it isn’t it’s almost lofted in yeah and the keepers almost you know got a match I mean that is phenomenal to sort of go on sorry I’m interrupting no the thing that the thing that is so good about it like you said is the pass is almost over hit yeah that’s what gets the goal because Edison has to come because he thinks he’s going to get it it’s the fact that it’s just the very toe end of ammad that can reach it that means Edison will fully commits because he thinks he’s going to get the ball and once he’s fully committed like we said before he goes around him and from that point it’s a 50/50 um whether he gets it in or not um statistic basically it’s a 50/50 and of course he does get it in which is a fantastic again goes back to that run runs off the ball win football matches runs in behind runs in behind constantly that’s why the work rate of of of of players we’re going to get to um gach rash for a minute because obviously am spoken about those two not being in the squad but people running in behind and running off their man and making those runs are so essential and that’s how uh Amarin beat City the first time it was the runs off the ball for sporting the runs were constant in behind in behind in behind in behind and finding those runs out why that’s why they won two penalties that’s why they got those four goals it’s so crucial and I think the more you look for it the more you can see why he picks the plays he does because they make those runs consistently and constantly and I think going forward I’m just you know keeping my out for it more and more but those runs in behind are so important yeah no I completely agree and I think that was I don’t want be negative of any of them today I think that was one criticism join the watch along we had a little bit of of holand sometimes he was he he wasn’t on his toes enough he was like he just wasn’t quite making those runs at the right time when there would have been a pass on or something was on I think Ronnie pulled him up on it a couple of times but I mean obviously I’m not don’t be critical because hland you know everyone played the part today but it was just that one thing that was missing a few loads of people in the chat um yeah someone said it was that that fck was Elite um Dan mzungu says we’re going to dying on this one for a while aren’t we no just the next few years um wish there were tears from Pep says Kyle in I love this one there was a little um Steve arito says I’m convinced pep is trying to get sacked because he knows they’re going to be found guilty and he’s gone to his favorite doctor to get on the pills I love he’s crammed in a load of stuff so many conspiracies all cak absolutely absolute smog as Board of of conspiracy and I agree with all of them um should we have a little look at Pep not pep sorry um the pep killer ruon am um he’s been speaking about um garnacho and rashford both being left out of the match day Squad today um it’s important to say why um was not a disciplinary thing but for me is important uh the performance in training the performance in game the way you dress the way you eat the way you engage with the teammates way the way you push your your teammates everything is important in our context in the beginning of Sunday when we want to change a lot of things when people in our club are losing their jobs we have to put the standards really high and for that they have to fight for the place in the team and to the team proove that we can leave anyone outside the squad you can manage to win if we play together if it was disciplinary I will say that here and it will be a bigger problem but was not that was just I want to improve my players and sometimes you see and you you understand that for so long we try um for example with rush we try a a thing with rush it doesn’t work let’s continue to do the same thing or try something different so it’s simple as that if they train well with the talent they have have we will be so much better with them um both of them but they have to work hard they are trying to do today they train really hard so it’s a good thing new week New Life let’s see uh the next Squad very interested in that isn’t it because it is like not far off the Eric tenh hard Jaden San it’s almost the same Aral you talk about training and performance in training and that’s why they’re not in a squad I mean he’s elaborated a little bit more than just just training and saying you know we look at everything and we’ve tried different things with him but it’s very similar I think for me even if you’re Ali Angel G your max wrestling and you absolutely fuming you’ve been left out of the squad and you raging and you don’t want even if you get to the point where you don’t even know if you want to play for this manag or beer I think you’d be better off served getting your head down and getting on with it I think if anything you can take from jayen Sancho what he did was not the way to go about it going social media and moaning and plus after a win against City where everyone’s buzzing loads of positivity if you start firing shots at the manager or acting out no one’s going to back you no one’s going to be on your side no one is going to say now no one I I think that you can barely get United fans to agree on anything I would be shocked if there is one United fan who is saying we should have had Gat and rashford in that Squad today right now they might have done before kickoff there won’t be one right now I don’t there’s one United fan unless it’s someone trolling who’ll be saying I don’t B this manager he’s got it wrong this manager’s got a lot of credit in the bank before today’s game let alone after winning against Manchester City people want him to succeed people know we need to change things people have looked at some of these players underperforming and say we need to change what he’s going on we need to fix it he’s showing a way to fix it it’s up to them whether they want to get on board with it or not and even if they don’t and they want to leave then they don’t want to sit on the bench or sit out of the squad for the next six months or however long it is before they can go so I think the best thing they could do is get the red Downs get on with it in training and when they get opportunity to take it because let’s look at this manager me and you Joe sat here a few times over the last six months however long and said we’ve given up with anony there’s life in his United Career in a minute it might not be loads of it but there is he’s getting minutes he came on he’s played his part in goals and I’m not his biggest fan anyone knows that but I’ll give I want Manchester United players to play well call me a weirdo but I do yeah Harry McGuire yeah Harry McGuire people this guy was getting booed at one point now there’s life in his career there’s a good chance that even when everyone’s fit and I mean fit as in match fit because you could still argue Leno’s not there that he starts Harry McGuire because today was fantastic so I think that if that there’s anything that Marcus Russ Al alandre gacho sorry can can take from all that is that look if we get our head down if we try hard if we work hard if we play to the best of our ability which talent wise is very high we can get back into the team if they go n suck it man this guy’s an idiot I want to play for him I’m off then good luck with that but I don’t think anyos are going to be like well we we’re going to have to side with Marcus on this rub and you’re going to have to play him you ain’t going to see that you’re not so I think the the the manager is right to do what he feels needs to be done we’ve had it before listen I was a kid at the time but I remember there was you know a lot of press in the media about the way s Ferguson changed things players like Paul mcgr Norman wh side who were fans favorites getting dropped because they you know doing like not just injuries but doing stuff they shouldn’t have been doing I’m not saying that’s what happened with Marcus and gach but my point is Fergie made tough decisions and you know what kind of works out all right for him didn’t it yeah just one quick one as well Sam Zed says Amarin sounds like Teddy KGB in the movies rounders that’s a that’s a very good reference pay him pay that man his money have you heard it no I’ve never watch dir rounders I don’t know who Teddy KGB he’s played by John marovic um he does sound a little bit like that I think he’s losing a bit of the runny voice sad it because he when when he first spoke in English he sounded just like Cristiano Ronaldo yeah and I I’m hoping that this is going to be the first step towards a bit of Salford twang I love that if he’s got a touch of yeah if if he starts press conference with I’ll be I I’ll be in seventh heav forget the results that’s enough for me uh Joe I’ve really enjoyed that mate thank you for going through those goals thank you for pointing out about the runs off the ball and that other stuff as well because you know me goes under the radar with me a lot of the time especially with all the emotions of winning the mancher Derby it’s always it’s good to have a little bit more analysis and look at it a little bit differently um so thank you and we’re back again with more of these um next week uh we’ve got big game again coming up Spurs on Thursday so we’re looking towards that got news in the morning we’ve got um Ste we spoke to him if you’re not going to check that out me and Joe did a review as well where we just got into the the the initial reaction from that so go and check that out too make sure you check him out as well on the Sloppy Joe’s podcast you know where to find me thank you to everyone who got involved in the chat and the comments that’s been Joe AB J this has been an an analytical assessment of Manchester United 2-1 victory over Manchester City at the EAD thanks for watching for
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