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[Music] this is the Baseline discussing the hot button topics of the [Music] NBA welcome everybody you’re tuned to the Baseline Cali want Shaw discussing the hot button topics of the NBA little chilly up here but that does not mean that is plenty hot when we talking NBA action uh the NBA culture um essentially the NBA Shaw is the gift that keeps on giving whether it’s on the court off the court in the camera off the camera I mean there is so much going on you know what I’m saying obviously St Nick is got his eyes on on the game a little bit he’s sprinkling a lot of joy and Chaos he’s like I want I want you all to really appreciate what I go through around this time of the year so let me do this to what you guys typically like to follow and you know what I’m saying uh and talk and and conversate about let me give you a little bit of that that Christmas magic so to speak and it’s not we’re not even talking about the Christmas Day games which I’m sure we’re gonna preview that when we do our next episode right no man well it the the the weather being a little brisk is is appropriate but again the NBA action staying hot is also appropriate as a you know NBA cup stuff is here that’s in you know the the bommy city of of Las Vegas you know on a regular basis and uh I just love the fact that the the game continues to give us content upon content upon content for us to keep our show running you know at an optimal level that we’re even can be nominated for some awards let’s don’t want to BR you don’t want to talk about it too too soon but the Baseline is just I said I said nominated forward you see you you were the child right that when you you you even though they say it you got to wait until December the 25th you be that child that be like you know tearing at the presid you know what I’m saying tearing at the rapper just just just just a little bit oh I did I I did used to do that I I can’t even front I used to be very very big on my Christmas Vibes um and wanting to know 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and of course you my brother holding it down here with the Baseline you know what is this year 13 year 12 I’m lost in it either way consecutive back-to-back nominations for us man and that’s an amazing accomplishment as well man we got some really uh important stuff to get to go over obviously we want to be able to preview this upcoming Emirates NBA Cup finals which is going to feature the uh Oklahoma City Thunder and the Milwaukee Bucks people are already uh leaning into that idea could this possibly be an NBA Finals matchup whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa okay but I do think for the purposes of the NBA Cup this is going to be a very intriguing matchup and we’ll give our perspective on and our predictions on who’s going to ultimately win it then you know listen man the wheels were turning you know what I’m saying this is what happens when you down a couple shots of uh of good English rum wow in in in the in in the process of being in the spirit and your spirit just takes you to these different places right like so much is going on now that trade season has opened up in the NBA right and there’s already been a couple of moves that have taken place so we’ll discuss the move of Thomas Bryant being uh going over to the uh Indiana Indiana Pacers and we’ll also talk about I don’t want to say it’s like a blockbuster trade but it’s a significant trade where Dennis schroer is going to the Golden State Warriors um for DeAnthony Melton and some ex exchange of P piics um but there’s an interesting concept that I wanted to throw out there it’s it’s been in different spaces so shout outs and I don’t want to you know be biting off of people but I do think that it’s interesting that you know we don’t do this enough probably for basketball but we’re gonna do a little cuddle Mary trash um it it’s an interesting concept we’ll explain to you when we get to that point but that means you got to hang on with us let us get through our thing pay some bills but obviously this is the kind of episode that I think you should be listening from the beginning to the end is it it not Sean always always always consume all the minutes of the Baseline NBA podcast absolutely so as always be sure to get my man sh AST sports NBA get at me a game face Le the shows Twitter hand NBA Baseline available on our major platforms you know where to find this go to www.the Baseline nba.com in order to check out not just this episode but all of our episodes that we have in the archives and then if you see us on YouTube TV and you see the blue and white logo you know that we rocks with the 19 Media Group family 19 Media Group be running these content streets so be sure to go to www.9 Medi group.com to not only check us but the family of great content creators that we have as part of the network for your listening pleasure whatever you want to listen to I can guarantee you 19 Media Group has got something for your listening pleasure so be sure to check out the family all right Shaw let’s get right into it Emirates NBA Cup finals is now upon us the finals is set we’re talking Oklahoma City Thunder versus the Milwaukee Bucks SE the first question that I want to ask you about this particular matchup is who needs this cup more Oklahoma City Thunder or the Milwaukee Bucks now I know that we had talked about this a little bit when we did our previews of the semis I’m sorry the quarters but maybe some of that has changed now when we’ve seen how these two guys have played in The Knockout how these two teams have played in The Knockout rounds right and have put themselves in this position to be in the finals so I’m going to Reas this question now with enough information to determine that they are the finalists who needs this more my original answer was OKC going into the semis if you recall um and Shout out you know I will say I’ve been perfect in my predictions and I did predict OKC would beat Milwaukee in the N Cup finals I’m sorry I don’t I can’t reach far enough to just just saying just saying shoulder in a little bit but we know ball right we know a ball and you know I think again some of their narratives wild Houston a little messy but they’re here I mean they got here and then obviously got beat by OKC as we head to the Cup Final uh I think again I’m still gonna say with OKC but there’s there’s something permeating in Milwaukee uh I I know Giannis wants to win this joint he wants to be you know the cup mdp and all of that and I think in some semblance of kind of weird validation for where the Bucks are and you know especially where they’ve come already from this season Dame and Yannis winning it with Doc at the helm with kind of like their new Cadence with Milton as more of a six-man type of thing AJ Green coming in as a you know this you know this mercenary three-point shooter and they just kind of found a rhythm to what they’re doing this Bucks team can really use this as a way to say hi we can win something at you know elevated stages that can propel them to be uh the the contender that a lot of us thought they were going to be going into this season uh that they didn’t start off with so I think they’re they’ve rounded into form and I think most people’s money would probably still still say may Milwaukee because Dame and Yannis haven’t done it together I’m still gonna say OKC from the aspect of you know as a young team that is hanging their principles on defense but behind a true MVP candidate in SGA and they haven’t even got into the Conference Finals or anything like that yet too them winning something means a little bit more for me just a smidge more than it does for Milwaukee but both narratives are different but they both have viability if you’re asking me yeah so I’m gonna keep it as simple as I possibly can I really do think that the Milwaukee Bucks need need to win this to your point but I think the reason why they need to win this sha is not for a lot of the reasons that you mentioned albeit they are very valid reasons I just simply think and I go back to this about Giannis I said that if we want to buy into the idea that the Milwaukee Bucks really do want to get to the NBA Championship they really want to give people a reason to fear not wanting to play the Milwaukee Bucks we need the yanis at TMO that was not 2019 win to chip I’m talking everything that led up to that 2019 okay now during the beginning of this year we’ve seen some you know little instances of you know him playfully being like that guy again where you know he’s going to be A- Our Generation right like he’s already he’s already hit certain Heights that elevated him in particular space I do think though that if you’re trying to validate a level of greatness which some guys after a while can say you know what I’m great where I am and that’s okay ain’t nobody take ain’t nobody gonna make lesser of what he’s doing but I think if he still wants to be in those combination those conversations among being one of the most dominant players in the prime of his career he has to go back and exhibit that level of aggressiveness that put him in the position that he did prior to these last couple of Seasons yeah and some of it may be injuries some of it may be the chemistry some of it may be the politics going on with the type of team that had that they’ve built around him but I ultimately think that what we’re talking about here Shaw is we are still gonna say for the Oklahoma City Thunder the road to Greatness for the Thunder will be what we see from SGA and to your point this is the year probably that SGA should win an MVP um trophy right because of just the the the efficiency and the uh lethality that he goes out there and execute he is cerebral he is like the quiet assassin you know when jic goes and dominates numbers it resonates because everyone’s like oh my God but with sgaa you look at these numbers you’re like holy crap I didn’t realize he did all of this I didn’t know his across the board everything he’s doing literally are the kind of things that we said four years ago when Westbrook was doing it we were shouting from the rooftop that he should be the MVP right but SGA is literally kind of doing the same thing oh and by the way his team is eatting and thriving as well too because they are literally a top five team both offensively and defensively right so I come within knowing this is what you’re going to get with the OKC because this is what they are now like we have now they have ascended without even needing to win the cup that they legitimately are going to be that team it’s just a matter of are they good enough to do it against guys that are going to be a mismatch problem and the only time that you’re going to see a mismatch problem in this tournament is if they run up to the likes of someone like ayanis s TMO and I’m G tell you this right now if Isaiah hartenstein is able to body up you know what I’m saying jannis Sanchez kmo not stop him sty him make Giannis struggle make Giannis not be the person that we’re saying that we think he can cap he’s capable of being against his OKC Thunder team then I’m going to begin to question what kind of team the Milwaukee Bucks will be for the rest of the season because they got to figure out a way to get that right they got to figure out a way to open him up they got he’s got to figure out a way to be the most dominant player on the court he doesn’t have to be the best player but he has to be the most dominant player and so that to me is what resonates with why the Bucks need to win it more Giannis has to go out there and he’s gotta basically put his foot on the necks of the Oklahoma City Thunder to let people know that it doesn’t matter who we’re matched up against if I’m on my aame nobody is stopping us because we are going to find a way to win that game and I know people want it to be about Damen Lillard and Dame time in the fourth quarter but I’m telling you right now nobody can stop a Giannis when Giannis is in his bag well I think the the what OKC has to do is they kind of have to you know not the the wall of off type of situation but they’re going to have to double him and swarm him I think at times what Milwaukee is doing is different is that they’re moving Giannis around yes there are times where he just kind of bully balling you know getting up the break and just driving you know at at nauseum if you will kind of batterram style but in the halfcourt offense they are putting him in pick and roll and getting him moving with momentum which is a lot harder to stop when he’s just kind of like just trying to dribble and kind of do it by himself so to back up your point some a little bit more to no matter if Doc Rivers loses this all the things that doc Doc Rivers can’t win things is gonna come up again so in that regard you know what I mean it would be nice for Doc to get something even if it is this none of this for Doc Dame or arannis are Legacy building but they could be confidence building and I think a lot of that is what this NBA cup is about for both of these teams yeah statement making right this this is a statement making game but the problem is is that it almost looks like for most of the guys that are on this roster they have peaked they have peaked and now you’re dealing with teams in which they haven’t even hit their Prime which is why if you run against against the Boston Celtics you’re going to run into a brick wall because you know that there’s probably level that Jason Tatum can go to you know that there’s probably another level that let me interject from from this from this standpoint I think I love what you said in about in terms of the talent has peaked but what what the talent has not done is meshed and you know Giannis had indicated that like there’s a trust level now that wasn’t there even at the beginning of this year especially with he and Dame specifically they felt like it was your turn my turn or whatever I’d really have to look at tape to really kind of understand the nuances of of that that specific statement but knowing that they are involved in and pick and roll a lot more and they are playing off each other better than you’ve ever seen Dame seems to be passing the ball and knowing where guys want to be even outside of Giannis more than he did last year all those things I think are still relevant so your statement is so super on point yes the talent it’s PE but the chemistry did not and there was still room for the chemistry for the bucks to grow and that’s what we’re starting to see the signs of even with Doc on the sidelines as well too him maturing to this role and this iteration of who the Bucks were as a coach as a legendary coach that he is but he didn’t really understand how to get everything in in line now and that seems to be the case now so I’ll take it to you as you did to me the last time we talked about the cup your prediction OKC or the Milwaukee Bucks I think OKC is gonna win this I just think that there is a level that the Oklahoma City Thunder has that I don’t know if whether or not the Milwaukee Bucks have had have been fortunate to run into so far in this part of the tournament now it’s kind of misleading because the tournament it gets comingled with the games that are on the you know on the docket and I think going into the tournament it’ll be interesting to see what version of the Milwaukee Bucks comes out and competes right um based off of who they’ve been dealing with but I can just tell you right now when I’m watching this OKC Thunder team man I don’t want to I don’t want to try when I make this comparison I don’t want to make this comparison to tell people oh you know they got a Kevin Durant they got a Russell Westbrook and they got a a James Harden what I’m saying is is that the youth the youth um uprising of the OKC Thunder reminds me a lot like that 2011 team where you know that you’ve got your number one guy playing at a high level and you got these two guys that are on the come up with Williams and now you know and you got a hartenstein which is very you know reminds a lot of people of you know Ibaka and and Adams and like you just kind of get that sense that this is a team that is from a is very well-rounded and they can only continue to get better and hopefully OKC recognizes this don’t mess around and F up the chemistry that’s going on with these guys because I think it’s going to go a long way in the way that we determine how far the Oklahoma City Thunder can go even this year possibly to get to the NBA finals out of the Western Conference but I think a good way for us to measure how efficient and effective and a well oil machine they are is if they figure out a way to run through the Milwaukee Bucks so I’m taking the Bucks I’m sorry I’m taking the Oklahoma City Thunder in this particular matchup I just think that as a team they’re gonna Force the Milwaukee Bucks to have other guys go out there and score and again to the point that I mentioned a little bit earlier that peaked talent I don’t know whether or not they’re going to be there when it matters the most to hit those clutch shots when OKC goes on their runs you already know where I stand I picked OKC to win it from the very beginning against the Milwaukee Bucks that was my I why would I change that now there’s no injuries so OKC I think gets it done we’ll see what ends up happening here on NBA Cup finals on Tuesday absolutely you’re tuned to the Baseline Ki Warren Char discussing the hot button topics of the NBA coming up I I like this one man we gonna do a little marry cuddle trash Oh I cannot wait to tell you guys what this is all about but with so much going on in the NBA man it would be remissed if we didn’t discuss some of the trades that are happening because trade season is opening up but first are you craving non-stop Hoops action NBA League Pass is your ticket to the ultimate basketball experience enjoy live games on demand replays an exclusive behind the scenes content 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until when like February right end of February literally so you know we’re in this situation we’re in this space Shaw where we should keep our eyes open for certain teams they’re going to be making some key moves and one team that we thought and you had predicted this as well too the Indiana Pacers they clearly needed to do something they needed to you know add a little add a little uh what do you call it octane in there you know what I’m saying in their fuel tank uh to get kick started this is a team that has struggled so far this season Shaw um definitely not the team that they were last year even going into uh the NBA cup so they decided to make a move and they were able to acquire Thomas Bryant what are your thoughts about this move and does this really help the Indiana Pacers yeah I was let me start from the to Bryant point I saw m heat me today I had asked him I was like like basically bro why’d you come back he wasn’t getting minutes there they drafted khle where I was just like this doesn’t really seem like a a situation that’s conducive to you but he gave me the politically correct answer you know like hey you know the team here we can really build something etc etc you know they they appreciate what I do bring to this thing and I think I’ll have a chance to compete for minutes well that did not end up coming to be the be the case Indiana loses two centers if you will uh more to to injury and so they’ve been really thin at at that spot you know here comes now a perfect opportunity Thomas Bryan to at least earn probably 12 to 15 minutes night in the backup center roll um a perfect compliment in a lot of ways to to Miles Turner because while he can space the floor and he can be a decent rebounder he does have a little bit of of of Wiggle down in the post I wouldn’t say he’s a great post player uh but he can give them another dimension in that space especially if sakam is not down there doing what he does so I like the move for Indiana um I like the move for Miami you know freeing him up if you will to getting him out of jail and whatever was going on with him in spoler there it’s a great opportunity I think for the Pacers to sh up their front court and you know maybe this will leads to some other thing but I think as I said a couple weeks ago they needed to do something for this bench and I think this a great first step yeah I think it’s an interesting move that that’s being made it’s definitely not you know it’s definitely not a uh how do I say that that doesn’t tilt the Tilt the scales you know the landscape of what needs to take place you know for the uh for the Indiana Pacers but I do think that they do need to help you know relieve a lot of the load that they’re putting on M Turner and I’m sure uh you know R carile it recognizes it now fortunately enough you know for the Pacers you know they’re hanging around the E eth spot as far as the Eastern Conference goes and you know I I don’t know if whether or not they’re they’re going to really have any steam to to to catch up with you know the Cleveland Cavaliers who clearly right now the class you know of that division but I do think that they you know think that they can be able to compete with the Milwaukee Bucks so you know listen there’s still room for uh you know opportunity there but I’m sure they need to separate themselves from the Chicago Bulls right because even with that bull roster that they have you can make the argument that be like hey the Bulls probably may be a better team that can you know usurp the Indiana Pacers if they decide to keep the players that they have and they all stay healthy that’s the they’re not keeping those play I mean again it would be a tri I hear what you’re saying yeah you get what I mean like just just because of the way that the standings are reflective of but we’ll be we’ll see like like to your point this is an opportunity more for Thomas Bryan than it really is about the Pacers like Thomas Bryan has an opportunity here to really you know kind of show andove you know um because we’ve seen a lot of guys who go to different destinations were expecting to get certain minutes and you know they wind up you know further down the uh the depth chart than probably what it’s originally intended and like right now he’s getting what 2.1 mil that’s a drop in the bucket for most teams if they realize that there’s better potential with someone that’s coming out of their g-league or someone that they’ve had you know coming out of Camp they put them in a certain game situation and all of a sudden they become a a a spark plug you know what I mean and they’re just like all right we want to kind of ride that momentum see where that goes so yeah you know we’ll see what happens there all right Sha so the next big move that obviously is gonna be talked about and I I guess part of me is just like I I’m wondering is this it if you’re the Golden State Warriors like this is your big play they somehow were able to work a deal toing bring Dennis schroer from the Brooklyn Nets over to the Golden State Warriors now the draft pick Shaw I’ll let you speak to that part of it because maybe there’s some significance within there the only thing that’s significant is really the players move right like so DeAnthony Melton goes over right and then some of the swap picks are Atlanta picks and um I believe there is a uh there’s a Warriors pick involved in the swap But ultimately the Warriors going after and getting Dennis shuder says what to you well they wanted another playmaker they wanted somebody else to be able to be able to get baskets on a pseudo regular basis and not that shuder is like this offensive Hub if you will but he’s somebody who can score the ball and does know how to create when you look at this Warriors team it’s it’s it’s it’s Steph and Draymond and neither of which are well Draymond I guess is more of a primary playmaker and Curry is a kind of a secondary playmaker but by virtue of how much he has the ball in his hands ends up becoming some Primary in in their system so losing Melton hurt them and you know shoter comes into this space as somebody who will be able to fit into their defensive schemes as well too uh but and they can play alongside Steph uh I I like the move in in theory because they they didn’t really have anything else to do with with Melton being gone for the year it’s not like he was going to come back for the playoffs or whatever like he’s done so you know shuder makes sense for them and doesn’t tie up things in a way where they can’t make another move with Shams and others are still reporting that they’re still going to go big game hunting for some of the other guys which we’ll talk about here in a little bit uh but you know this more to me signifies where Where Brooklyn is at again as well as a team that look is probably going to be a seller you know as we get into the you know into the depths of the trading season here before February I get the sense Shaw that and listen I’m gonna give props to Nets executives because clearly they are selling high on Dennis shter I think like right now he’s like top five um in assists in the NBA right um he obviously was among one of their main scorers but I definitely think that there’s a there was a problem there like I think the scoring Dynamic with him and cam Tom Thomas was very um was very inconsistent right and you have these moments where Schroeder you know he’ll shut he he he’ll give you 30 points and then there’s some games he’ll just give you three right but somewhere along the line he’ll figure out a way and you know he’ll wind up with 7 eight assists I think he had a career high the other night like somewhere like 13 assists or something like that in in a game so to your point I think if you’re the Golden State Warriors that’s great I think though the winner of this is the Brooklyn Nets because you can continue to have a guy like Dennis shuder on your roster however if you are more enamored with some of the younger talent and really trying to open up opportunities for them to get better shots for them to really go through The Growing Pains of learning how to win or whatever the case may be how long do you keep a guy like Dennis shuder who’s not necessarily making them significantly better obviously making them competitive not making them significantly better and you got other guys on the roster where you can kind of delegate those minutes to and figure out a way to get the chemistry going with them so I’m sure that that that in and of itself probably helped a Jordi Fernandez because you can see him struggling with the consistencies of what combinations do I put on the floor that’s going to maximize what I’m getting from the guys that I know are going to probably be here after this season goes so if you’re the if you’re the Brooklyn Nets I think you win where you are able to move shorer on a high value rather than you catch schroer when he’s on a downward Trend you know again he he becomes you know OB you know you know off the grid with his ability to consistently score consistently distribute the basketball and the chemistry isn’t there and then you know you’re basically going to get low balled because some team is just willing to take him but they’re not willing to take him to utilize him in the way that they really want to just because it’s more salary cap than it is about what he could actually bring to the table Yeah smart move for Golden State in the in the short term they have been sliding as of late so they recognize hey uh despite all this you know depth that they’ve had and no one’s playing over 30 minutes a night or whatever the case to be like you know that it was I originally thought those sh I originally thought that they made this move because I think that they wanted to be a pain in the ass to the Los Angeles Lakers I I just think that they have games on the Slate and they just like here we want to give you we let’s give you back your former player that you dissed here go ahead create Havoc for them yeah I mean I know Struder I wouldn’t say he was on the short list but he might have been on the list but I mean there’s a million players that are on the Lakers list and that’s that’s topic for another conversation so either way Golden State makes makes a makes a move to kind of that they hope will stimy the bleeding as they continue to Big Game hunt which I think leads us into some of the conversation that we should be having next in our new segment absolutely man so here we go we’re gonna do a little marry cuddle trash okay so here’s how it works the idea here is the concept for how we look at a specific player or maybe a scenario is it something that we really want to embrace do we want to marry that is that our are we partnered with that we’re at the hip with this all right if we’re if is it something where all right maybe you’re we’re not hip with it I can I can I can I can get with it you know what I’m saying I can cuddle it you know what I’m saying put my arms around a little bit you know I mean take a nice little stroll but I can’t commit right and then if it’s just flat out yo just this ain’t gonna work this going into the trash I’m saying we trashing this that’s what we talk about when we say marry cuddle trash right so sha I I found it interesting that the rumors about Jimmy Butler being bantered about in trade talks and heavy because of the fact that the reports are open that the Miami Heat are willing to listen to Listen to offers um of putting of of Jimmy Butler you know going to another team to me I it’s not that I’m totally surprised by it I think we knew at particular point it was going to get there we thought maybe this is something will probably happen at the end of the season because if it wasn’t something that the Miami Heat weren’t going to facilitate before the season started you know what I’m saying it’s just not like them to allow this to kind of be the conversation of the heat culture right they ain’t about that you know what I mean and especially if it’s like a disgruntled player they nip that nonsense in the butt like you will not hear about it until the season ends and then all of a sudden crap starts surfacing and then you began to realize it was far more sorted than you even gave it any any any credit for but the idea that the the heat are willing to listen to offers about Jimmy Butler on the Block I find it to be a very interesting scenario and I’m curious on which teams right that you believe Jimmy Butler should be destined to go to which one would you marry which one would you cuddle and if it’s speculated that you’re going to that team and you’re like nah which one would you trash so what are my options all right so Golden State Warriors okay okay um so you want to all right let’s start there so yeah so the Warriors um I’m gonna marry it you know I this is an idea I can get behind for a lot of reasons and and I allow me to go left and come right back I know we’re kind of like running behind time in our show so I want to be succinct Miami’s in a situation with Jimmy I think as you were you know indicating where they don’t want they don’t want to be married to him for the long term he has a player option next year at 52 million the player option he opts in then all the cards are are on his deck like he can do whatever he wants to do he could choose to resign or we can leave and walk in free agency mam me gets nothing so the he are like well let’s try to do something maybe a year early because then now that that player option because somebody some other team’s problem and then they ultimately try to resign him or whatever the case to be so they no longer seem to want to be in the Jimmy Butler business at least from what we’re hearing you know his his agent say not that but whatever the case may be but with the Golden State thing it makes a lot of sense everybody in Golden state is uh let’s say experienced and a little bit older Jimmy fits into into into that space in terms of like hey we want to win and we want to win right e thing now I think you know you can attract Miami with it’s gonna have to take the kingas of the world maybe psks or whatever the case to be the minations Wiggins even to even make the money work but the idea of Golden State getting Jimmy Butler I can absolutely marry it because it does make sense from a winning standpoint a clear number two standpoint and a timeline standpoint for where all those players would be in their proverbial careers all right so you’re you’re marrying the Golden State Warriors yes all right that leades us with cuddle and trash so here here here is my other two teams that I’m throwing out there for you the Houston Rockets okay Houston Rockets and and the Los Angeles Lakers well I’ll trash the Lakers because that’s not even something that I think can happen uh he they weren’t on his list either I think Phoenix was on his list and I would trash that as well too because the machinations of Beal giving up as no trade clause to go is the only way that that could do fiscally work so that leaves me with the only option it’s at least cuddle the option to Houston now if you believe what their general manager came out and says like hey they want to this through with their young guys and see what it is um but I don’t know the luster starting to wear off jayen green for me um and he’s somebody who I who I’ve actively wanted to like and the internet if you will and the social media lights are like oh no the hipsters as some say are saying no he’s not a good basketball player like they there just seems to be like oh you just got to watch he’s like he’s a highlight guy he’s not really a winning player and I’m like I’ve been trying to debunk that but at the same time he’s not been consistent enough for me to be like well you to to really be able to go back at those said hipsters and saying okay jellen green is not you know is not somebody I would want to give up on if it allows the Houston Rockets to get Jimmy Butler into that that could be an accelerant to the rockets that could propel them you know to at least Conference Finals um especially with the way OKO is coaching so I’ll cuddle I’ll cuddle the idea although I don’t think it’s more going to be more than just like as you alluded to a quick stroll I don’t think this is a cuddle that will lead to marriage in any in any uh shape or form oh man I would hate for you to be a relationship counselor for these guys I’ve been SE successfully married for a little while bro I know I know but I mean these hard troops man they gonna probably have to put them that’s why I’m successful that’s why I’m successful I don’t on 90day fiance Man by the time that we’re done this whole situation you’re tuned to the Baseline Cali warshaw discussing the hot button topics of the NBA so I I I I I find but here’s my thing Shaw are you buying the idea real quick are you buying the idea about Jimmy Butler that even he has done with being in Miami right given listen the successful campaign not nearly as successful as I think they would have hoped for but are you buying the idea that even Jimmy Butler says hey my time is up yeah I am I am I I think enough smoke for fire for me all of Pat ry’s comments again going to Media day showing up really late and whatever he had personally going on and what doesn’t seem to be ultimately tapped in he’s still gone some of his you know um I think it was Josh Hardo I keep utilizing this because I think it was amazing you know he’s he’s side quested more than a handful of times already this season with various injuries and so forth and so forth now we have the machinations of colors of hair and do the colors of hair represent the teams that he’s interested in like there’s just there’s just so much to it right now and I think it would just be best Miami is good and always dangerous but I think they can be reasonably good and reasonably dangerous with or without Jimmy Butler and I think that’s really a testament to the overall culture but more importantly to what splure is built there and their ability to coach up Talent on a regular basis God isn’t it amazing how a year from a year just a year removed we were wondering about what was going on with Tyler herro and literally Tyler herro is their most explosive offensive player that that MO is in is the last man standing after all said and done it’s a a remarkable Redemption Arc I will say that I think it’s a great absolutely all right Sha let’s do one more uh Mary cuddle trash so there has been much said about LeBron James possibly leaving the Los Angeles Lakers right LeBron James certainly won’t admit to that but now that we have kind of rub the Shine off of the whole you know fatherson thing La you know what I’m saying the pr I don’t want to use the word PR stunt but let’s just say the uh the the pr um uh emasculation sort to speak he said Rob plinka got emasculated that’s a lot worse than a maybe I you know but you know just basically just just opening it up right like he’s like we’re we’re willing to do this right because we don’t know whether or not this is going to be a successful Lakers campaign you know and listen All Things Considered for JJ reick he’s really done a pretty decent job given what he’s had to work with right um and to be able to work through the struggles LeBron James is is is is as at kind of concerned me but you know maybe to your point sha we’re talking about how father time in some respects is kind of caught up with with what we may think is going to con do in the Los Angeles Lakers as they continue to struggle at this moment in time now as they sit right the the Lakers are you know they’re they’re a 10th team but there’s really only two games separating between them and the four right and I think that’s not gonna that’s not going to change much but are you open to the idea about LeBron James possibly leaving to the Lakers and if so I will then present three teams to you for you to tell me whether you marry cuddle or trash the idea all right so first I’m not open to it I I think there’s there’s too much because of the bronny factor um and you know as using your term mascala the Lakers into you know drafting his son and I gotta get back to that word of the week thing man I get back to that okay but uh uh you know making them a package deal in LA and all the things that he wants to do with his career um currently and his post NBA career as well a lot of that seems to be based in Hollywood so I just don’t know that he would walk away from that truly unless a certain team in a certain situation really made it made him an offer you couldn’t refuse and I just don’t know that that can actually come to play okay all right so since you put it in that particular regard it’s almost like you put a prup on this particular segment so I don’t even know whether but I’m going to throw these teams out here y because I actually want to see the expression on your face to think that if they were to ever happen we’d go ahead and do it all right okay originally at one point I would have thrown out there the Cleveland Cavaliers at the beginning of the season I would have been like what happens if the Cleveland C figured out a way to bring back LeBron again you know what I’m saying but I just think with the way Evan Mo’s playing nah you’re good all right so forget them all right let me let me throw out this team for you what do you think about the oh I’m sorry let me give you all three teams the Memphis Grizzlies the Atlanta Hawks Minnesota Timberwolves where are these teams coming from they’re coming from a they’re coming from a place of listen I I I don’t see I would have thrown maybe say the Sacramento kid but I don’t see that ever happening that’s not GNA happen no definitely not gonna happen with the Phoenix Suns all right that’s just not gonna happen I mean I I don’t know it’s disingenuous to leave out the team that he’s he’s wanted to flirt with if nothing else if he’s if he’s you know what I mean if he’s looking on his dating apps of NBA teams you know that shiny team and I do say that Warriors is that what you’re talking pun intended I did that I did that intentionally because remember you are the relationship Savant right you know so you know when again when he’s in his dating up of NBA teams he’s looks over there and he sees Draymond and Steph and you know they had a nice time they you know they went on a friend’s vacation you know over to Paris they want a gold medal was it the banana no pass he’s matured now you mean they’re on Yachts now you know I mean they’re not on banana boats anymore so you know this is this a grown man style they were plaining yeah so that’s a team he just like hm you know he looks over to the left sees the Lakers looks over to the right seees Steph over over there with his boy Draymond and is like man that that would be interesting but there are so many hurdles when he looks at probably the prenup that he has in place with the Lakers you know the stuff that he even has in turns in place with his family it’s just like cheaper to keeper so I think the Warriors are the team he would at least he would definitely cuddle or even marry but I just don’t think there’s a way to get there other you can’t back out now you’re like def cuddle cuddle nut he trying to marry that well well yes you know what we’ll stand on it yeah but on logic Shaw on logic because like look look right now the Memphis Grizzlies are the second best team right and only by a couple of games but listen to your point you’re seeing that the Resurgence and and and and up why would it be a far-fetched idea for a one-year rental if the intend is to try to win a chip that he can’t make something work playing out there I in in in Memphis excuse me have you met LeBron James have you this is I’ve not had the pleasure I’ve not had the this is one of the most calculated players and Brilliant players of our of Our Generation not only on the court but when it comes to storytelling narratives in the whole nine he has no interest in being in a Minnesota a Memphis or whatever other team that’s not LA or potentially Golden State the story of you know when it was when it was Cleveland great you know did it from a HomeTown so forth and so forth I don’t think he’d ever even go back to be be honest with you he’s so focused on the next stages of his career he has nothing really left to prove on the basketball court but if he did it has to be in a situation that is the most appealing to him and right now that is only going to be the Lakers or the Golden State WS no other team no matter how attractive they are no matter what they can even offer the Lakers is gonna make something work other because he has enough power he will enough NBA power enough player empowerment power in essence to make anybody’s team organiz absolutely miserable so nobody is signing up for that understanding like hey we don’t have any Su of control of how this guy will be yes he elevates us but we can’t make it even work and I I believe he does have a no trade clause so you know I think that’s what was negotiated into his last deal so he and Beal so like he’s not going anywhere he doesn’t want to go might be able I’m just saying you might be able to you know you might be able to move the meat a little bit if you sell him on some job barbecue no not not in the least B all right so all right so which team should I eliminate right if you if you’re already set on Marrying the Golden State Warriors and we still have to cuddle trash who are you eliminating of the three that I had mentioned you gave me Memphis Minnesota and who Atlanta there’s there’s no chance there’s no chance on Minnesota or Atlanta like I can’t even like you can’t force me into that jump off not even a jump off you can’t even jump off that is both trash maybe younger LeBron you know you know hotlanta Magic City all of that stuff but you know again he’s a grown man now he’s got the kids he can’t be out there you know getting caught like Lou Williams you know in the strip club with lemon pepper wings like that can’t be LeBron’s like so of that I would I I will I will oblige you and cuddle the Memphis Grizzlies but again not not a realistic situation not a realistic situation all right well this was fun I I I definitely would love for us to be able to do this more right like just taking especially as we get closer to the U trade deadline especially when we start talking about potential teams like you know contenders and Pretenders you know I would love for us to be able to to kind of implement this a little bit and kind of be like who who is it that we riding with as we start getting closer towards the uh towards the season and everything like that because I just find it kind of interesting with the way that the teams have built currently we’d be remissed if not saying they’re going to need a little bit more or you know like in this particular instance when we talk about the Philadelphia 76 point which I’m sure we will because they’re constantly in the headlines they got pieces that may be in play right possibly so if that’s the case do should they become Sellers and and who would you know what I’m saying as far as teams go you marry cuddle trash with that so I I just find it to be a nice little interesting uh take on the way that we’re looking at how teams you know can involve themselves in in you know what I’m saying um maybe we should also have a cop locking edition of the which which which team which teams are trying to upset the WoW The alar Shaw ruin it at the altar so uh and on that fine note I think that that this has been a baseline NBA podcast production we see you next week yikes yikes Hey listen man great episode um you know and again before I you know you know we before we do our our contemporaries our brothers uh gimmick infringement and uh hip to the games again for being nominated um 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