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NHL Hot Takes segment as covered by Joe Smith on this week’s “Fellowship of the Rink” Episode as covered by Joe Smith on “Fellowship of the Rink” Episode 43 https://youtu.be/NX7ojAf_EYM
Barrel Theory Beer Co presents “Keyboard Warriors” where we address hot takes from the listeners and X/Twitter
TOPICS:
— Evgeni Malkin to Dallas Stars… or Minnesota Wild?
— Jacob Trouba situation with New York Rangers and the resulting trade to Anaheim Ducks
— Igor Shesterkin contract good, bad, or a bit of both?
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all right final segment every week brought to you by our awesome Friends barel theory Beer Company keyboard Warriors are uh largely NHL hot take segment but occasionally it veers into topics outside of hockey and you all know this uh weekend stretch is quite the Slate of hockey we’ve got Edmonton Thursday night at home we’ve got a Mata Saturday game I think 1:00 hosting Philadelphia Flyers and then Sunday at 5 o’clock Vegas golden kns all of you should be flocking to sections 1052 217 and Club level 36 for the greatest craft beer offering you’re going to get at XL Energy Center Barrel Theory that’s right and uh Joe I’m on my final couple sips here of uh the latest delicacy that Timmy hooked us up with doom scrolling um which is just that hits way too close to home I’m almost having like a little PTSD from the name um but delicious hazy IPA Senter easy Drinker uh I know hazies are uh like your baby so I mean it just just go off how how’s this hazy stack up for you very good I love the design too like you know it’s like one thing to have you know to have a different kind of uh the eyes there um right behind colors like the way like I I have a lot of for a brewery when they have unique um designs for it the colors everything else and the names like how they care but yeah like I love hazies I’ll go anywhere in Twin Cities and get hazies or just regular ipas and New England ipas or whatever um it’s my thing and so uh thankfully between that J mavin and all that stuff uh bar the has been really good to us for that um no doubt yeah and and everyone says too it’s funny if you talk to anyone in the industry like yeah like the label design the the beer name that’s what’s going to get someone to try you got to make sure the beer is good enough that they’re gonna have you again and uh beer it can’t be yeah that’s right and Barrel Theory knocks it out of the park like again I know obviously I have to say that because they’re a partner of ours but anyone that knows me or has followed me for any extended period of time there wouldn’t be a friend or a partner if I didn’t think their beer was freaking awesome so check it out let us know what you think if you get it at the game tag us in a picture let us know and uh uh producer Isa spoke Z and myself will all be out at the Thursday game so if anyone’s out there let us know love to grab a beer with you guys um but let’s get into the hot takes here Joe and uh for once these are all provided by Yours Truly because I uh had several that I had uh bookmarked and for whatever reason lost them entirely so we’re going purely off of uh some of the ones for me and one of them I planned on talking about we’ll go to that right away and it started with Cam Robinson uh most who follow prospects are very familiar with Cam’s work Cam’s awesome um he said that he’s been hearing whispers that uh there could be some uh effort from the Dallas Stars to pursue of Genny Malin um obviously with Tyler Sean going on ltir that’s going to open up the space they definitely have the pieces that they could potentially move in a deal like that the real question mark is like does if Genny Malin even want to wave his no trade clause odds are he wants to St in Pittsburgh um I just replied to his post and said uh I’ll see your Sega in ltir and raise you a potential we’ll see what happens with Jonas broin but broin LTI fgny Malin in Minnesota absolutely moves them up a notch as far as trying to make a push in the playoffs and contend you have the pieces to move especially again Joe I don’t think I need to convince you I do not want Marco Rossy to leave I love Marco Rossi but if Bill Garren has decided that Marco Rossi is not staying he is the foundational piece of a trade there and I I wouldn’t mind cheering for him in Pittsburgh so i”d be okay but you’ve got Garen and flurry here to make it an easy transition for of gny Malin and the chance to Center arguably the best Russian Winger right now in Caro COV it’s pretty freaking enticing it it’s an interesting concept and then you’ve got him there to usher in guys like yurov who’s nadav do I think this is gonna happen absolutely not do I think that it’s a really interesting proposition if both sides had interest absolutely so you tell me if Garen and dubis were both down to play ball is this the type of trade that you would even consider or do you think I’m just out to launch I think it’s fun idea and I love outside the box here I will just um sugar coating it so much before you I will defer to my steam colleague Rob Rossi in Pittsburgh who said essentially just like there’s no way in hell Crosby is leaving Pittsburgh there’s no way in hell malcin is leaving Pittsburgh and I know different they’re different I get it they’re not the same I get the Garen thing I I for yeah it’s it’s hard to imagine I me I guess I was hard to imagine St Coast playing for the national predators too right so like there’s things that there are things that you did not think would happen that that did happen but you know I it’s a like I think if you’re if you’re the Wild and you’re in the top position or close top position in in the conference in March and you have a chance to go for a big fish I think that with the history of this franchise and and having the best player in franchise history and like you mentioned Caprio capris off and like I think you go for whatever you can go for I don’t know if it’s Rossy or whatever but I just don’t it’s hard for me to imagine m playing anywhere else and for you as a Pittsburgh fan I think I can he doesn’t seem like a Fed off type that will go sign with a blue jacket somewhere you know or like whatever you know I just don’t I don’t see that um so I don’t know him well so I don’t want to speak for him but I just think that it’s it’s just hard for me to imagine mockin play anywhere else and if Crosby’s going to ride it out ride her down think true malan might too um so I don’t know it’s yeah that’s fair I don’t I don’t think it’s wrong to kick any tires on anything but you know it’s just uh especially you’re Bill Garen but I just I will defer to my colleague who covers them forever and knows malan and speaks Russian and and he says there’s no way these guys are going anywhere so I’ll be Sam wrong in three episodes when it’s wrong but uh I don’t see three episodes all right I’m going to mark that that’s perfect no really for me because again do I think this is happening no I think that malan and Crosby both retire Penguins but for me it’s more I would be really really shocked if Crosby left whereas malan I don’t think he can handle losing I don’t think he can stomach it and they are bad they are really bad does he want to leave no but if you tell him he can go to a contender and you know all the other caveats I thr out there I think he entertains it even if he doesn’t go like he he would maybe consider whereas Crosby is like no I I’m staying here I’m gonna have statues built you think you think Crosby can stomach losing like more than Malin can I think he’s super pissed but I think he can at least tolerate it I malan runs hot so much quicker than Crosby does like we’ve seen Crosby like he be a snap show at times but like Malin gets real frustrated and do I think that he can weather it sure but if you’re in the midst of them being one of the worst teams in the league and dubis comes to you and says hey Garen and flurry wants you to come over and hang out and uh you get to Center capriso and go on a playoff run are you interested does he say yes maybe not does he say I’m gonna think on it I lean yes that’s more where I’m at I I just I think he is going to get tired of losing real fast because they really haven’t done it like they’ve any year they’ve missed the playoffs it’s been razor thin he hasn’t been on a bottom feeder like this and he doesn’t Crosby is the face of the team malan is not as much as I love malan and I actually like like malan is my favorite penguin of this like couple generation that him and Crosby have ushered in like I love him I just don’t see him being in the same light for anyone as Sydney Crosby and that’s not a slight to him that’s just like what Crosby meant to this team so it’ll be interesting I don’t know but will this happen no if it does I’ll be really interested but uh we don’t have to waste much more time on it because it it’s not going to happen let’s talk about a team that I do not like the New York Rangers um first one here that’s clearly people don’t agree with but I have to say there’s nothing wrong with how the New York Rangers handled the trouba situation I’m sorry I know people want to make it into a bigger thing because he’s their Captain but there’s been plenty of other players most recently and I know this one is uh one that hits close to home for youjo Ryan McDon literally getting the exact same treatment to end up in Nashville I just I feel for trouba and I understand why he like wanted to resist being traded because of his family situation but end of the day it’s a business he’s been bad they need to move on he eats up a ton of cap space do you have a problem largely like again could they have handled things more delicately or been a little nicer about it maybe but like reality is this is the business do you think that the Rangers did anything largely wrong here I do I do I I mean and we done thing too a perfect example like they played for their third straight Stanley Cup in Tampa he play with a mangled hand finger yeah two days later Julian breeah who IED a lot as a GM as a human being called them in and said you know basically we we have no choice we don’t want to we have to trade you and then went up that week and you know there’s Gally a chance that Ben waivers you know if he wasn’t have to trade and he find a way to go to Nashville but like these guys are these are negotiated part of contracts right yeah this is not just like no trade and no move Clauses are part of contracts and they are bargained and they were not they’re not snuck up on teams these are teams offer these things so they can get favorite able terms on contracts and longer term and get these guys assign and so to go on ahead and say we to negate what I offered you my contract is because of this this is not the NFL where characters aren’t guaranteed right this is like typically they’re guaranteed in in other sports right um and so I I just have a a problem and there’s a lot of problems with hockey in terms of the CBA and like and and revenue sharing all that stuff like that that but it just like if you sign a person long term and give him a no move clause and then by say by the no move Clause I meant kind of no move maybe no trade no trade not no move no move they couldn’t threaten the wave well like yes I get that but like it’s still you negotiate in good faith and you get this guy this term when he could gotten somewhere else or whatever and you decide to do that like I I know his business and I and I you know I’m just curious and how it’ll be other players who decide in fre agency like not for me to decide like this is a CBA thing right like this they got to fix it because like they’re well within their rights to threaten the way of the player it’s just like Okay sounds like we need to get rid of that option altogether right make every no trade to do that but I’m just saying like if if I’m I if I’m a free agent going to sign an eight-year deal with the Rangers long term shurkin signed a longterm extension with a no move that’s my next one no Clause like okay well no move you’re not going anywhere until four years from now when they’re but they can’t do anything because it’s a no move with a no move they cannot wave you that’s the difference if it’s TR well no no no but the difference is with trouba and MCD they had no trade Clauses not no move Clauses so the threat was if you don’t agree to go to this team which we think is a ni we’re going to wave going be claimed by Columbus right whereas like shurin that can’t happen too well not everybody get claes right everybody gets new Clauses no totally no no I agree but that’s where that’s part of the negotiation I I don’t know because of what was negotiated like I get where you’re coming from like I think that the players get done dirty I think the same thing happens throughout organizations outside of the players themselves it’s it’s a slippery slope but I I get where you’re coming from like I respect it I just I also have a little bit of a weird spot with the trouba one because he basically said yeah if you trade me to to a team that’s not on my no trade list this summer I’m just not going to show up and that really irked me I don’t I don’t respect that when it was within his negotiated no trade you know well it’s not negotiated it’s negotiated it’s part of the contract like it’s no no I was I was quoting you saying the negotiated portion like he negotiated a partial no trade if they’re going to trade you to a team that’s not on on your no trade list and you say well I’m not going to go anyways like Well yeah if it’s it’s not your trade L you have to go like that’s one thing versus like yes absolutely U the shurkin contract one Joe I think that’s gonna ruin the Rangers 11 and a half for a goalie in this economy he’s a great goalie that’s not the question but like it feels like they’re going into the Lundquist era all over again where they’re gonna basically waste this great goalie’s career not being able to support around him well the Cap’s going to go up in theory as we all think and say the next couple years so and what would the Rangers be without him quite honestly they have no choice I’m not challenging that they shouldn’t do the signing it’s more I just think it’s gonna hurt them like Jury has no choice if you let him walk you’re fired period but like yeah what’s your choice then not signing free agency and like who you going to sign yeah cam tet age 40 or what you GNA do like you know like you had to go tet I love it what what are you gonna do like I just don’t like he is the Rangers like he’s a reason why the last couple years they’ve been contenders yeah you can tell they’re flailing right now they’re making trades like they’re traed trouba their Captain they’re think they’re like the last what four captains are him and mcdna and Callahan and Drury right that sounds right I don’t know if Drury was the one before Callahan but three traded and one bought out like that is that is that really true that’s it’s pretty dang close that sounds about right so like I’m just saying like you know like I don’t know what what else you gonna do with the Rangers like you’re you have to go on on this guy right this is your I I again I am not criticizing it because I think Drury had no choice and you had to lock him up because the number was probably only going to go up I just think it was a no- win situation where letting him is worse but signing him for that I just I don’t know if they’re going to win a cup with him and that’s not his fault it’s just it’s tough to build around a goal that expensive like we talked about it earlier with Guston like Guston maybe should be viewed as our MVP for how cheap his contract is and him being an elite tier goalie like this like it’s insane but I don’t know again it’s not a knock on shurkin he’s a great goalie I’m not challenging his abilities I’m not saying that Drury shouldn’t have done it it’s just I don’t think there was a right move here this was just the least wrong move and he made it and like go ending is one of those one of probably the toughest positions to to give long-term contracts for volle one and like the lightning gave veski a 9.5 million one people criticized that in the beginning of it when he was in RFA right um he won two Stanley Cups he’s won KH SMI you know he’s paid on his investment we see how he does the rest of his career but like that guy he’s proven he’s won big games right totally like um you give him the benefit of it doubt going forward right um the contract was signed before that happened right of course but like he makes $2 million less than shurin will that’s just the you sign it earlier on like four years ago like our house cost a lot less four years ago than it’s like if Garen had done an eight-year deal with capriso at 11 mil we’d all uh be very happy right now yeah just got to the airport said hey kill you want a Ryan Suter Zack Pare deal oh we can’t do that but you want you want to you want to eat the your deal like of course they would they would have loved to sign him for I mean you know it’s like you watch the movie Air the the Michael Jordan like uh movie oh the like documentary about the the shoes yeah Nike was like the third place shoe company with J Converse and idas and they were like oh well we get your were going to win and like they sold Jordan on the fact that like Hey we’re all on on you and they give him piece of the shoe right I’ll we’ll give you a certain percentage and like and like uh you know um the character at the end is like the fil night character um ffle like oh what’s our biggest sale $3 million for a shoe how much is that going to cost like 160 million the first year of the shoe like you know making billion dollars on his shoe for percentage but like if you have that guy you go in on that guy you know like and that certainly proved into it but no that’s for sure well no all right that was that was a juicy one thank you Barrel theory for bringing us again another week of hot takes [Music]
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