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[Music] he [Music] hello and welcome to the last word on Spurs we are your multi-award winning Tottenham bburg podcast and we are back back back of a big weekend for Spurs of course Liverpool to come in the Premier League we’re going be seeing a lot of liver to come in these next few months they’re already giving people some nightmares we’ll be discussing those nightmares in this next hour of this show and more Delight to be joined by returning panelists top tier panelist the last word on Spurs back with a new setup back with a smile Christine is and is back alongside me Chris how are you I’m great I’m on such a high at the moment um I’ve just come back from the darts so it was absolutely brilliant had my matter sign here we go read it out for the listen and audio read audio Chris I go mads for the dots had to be yeah had to be for Madison who absolutely loves the darts himself so yeah um if anyone’s feeling a bit down with Tottenham just stick on the darts honestly it’s it’s absolutely brilliant oh man oh man a good distraction from spurs in our lives and back on the show look a man we always to some degree we turn to we I use that word therapy and say to me look Rick it’s not about therapy I’m just bringing the balance to the show it is the brilliant Simon your main returning to our panel s back here how are you you’re looking really wrapped up and warm can I say I listen to audio s you’re W to be on a Friday night can I just say wrapped up warm read a bit of Netflix and chill am I gonna be over TT yeah this is going to be an inside type of weekend uh nurturing uh a return from a cold as you can see here I got my soldiering world’s greatest grandma mug here oh come on come on what a guy feeling good we’re we’re uh we’re off to the we just uh succeeded getting to the semi finals so I’m I’m absolutely buzzing absolutely we’re g to get into that and more say so love have you back on the show and also back on the show isn’t it great to see this man what I’m seeing on now YouTube back posting semi-regular we’ll say semi-regular in the Spurs Community cuz I again we can’t go to overboard right now because there’s a lot of things happening in the life of this man one of all Shawn Butler’s back on last one on Spurs shy we’ve got that lovely chair in the background we’ve got a great smile sha how think from your end you okay yeah good good thank you Rick it’s great to be back yeah it’s been a stressful week if you like I didn’t make it to the game last night because of the shenanigans that are affecting me but um we we keep sort of carrying on anyway and we got we got the the result done we’re in the semi-final and like I say what how else just to sort of finish the week then to be on the wonderful last SP with these three fabulous people it’s great great to see everyone shout out to the chat welcome to the chat bless your heart shy thank you so much thank you so much I’m being asked am I in the Panic Room this was once the Panic Room it’s the in-law’s house which I’m concious if they listening or watching this that wouldn’t have gone down well that comment so probably revert the Panic Room and uh maybe do that a bit more Ambiance maybe’s that a bit more I don’t know bit more glamorous it’s Mystic this is this is what the Greeks houses look like these days I mean Chris will back me up Chris is it a standard form of what you will find in the Greek communities of North London is that fair say Chris back oh yeah this is basically my [Laughter] room there you go you little first thank you so much we’re gonna try and steal you back on track to Football chat we’ll try can’t promise on this show look it’s been an interesting fair to say last 24 40 hours for Spurs that look by hook or by crook Spurs have secured themselves a semifinal place in the cowbell cup wasn’t easy at all but look it was a big big night for an poog Spurs and we have to remind you again 10 players out going into this one Spurs still scoring for past Manchester United and although at some degree there Fraser Forster personally helped or I say helped he push the self-destruct button Spurs did find a way to navigate their way through to a semi-final where it sets up a mouthwatering double leg Tire against Liverpool shy I’m gonna open up with you look pretty good that we’re recording the bonus show to preview and Liverpool in the Premier League now because we had 48 hours to calm down Sean what’s been your reaction to that win against man united in the cowbell cup and have you finally been able to calm down enjoy sh ask you to un mute from your end yeah yeah I I purposely didn’t put a video out uh after the after the show because I felt like I was going to have a heart attack the last sort of 20 minutes obviously it being the proximity towards how you feel afterwards you’re going to maybe focus on some of that more than the kind of the first half we were speaking about this backstage for me I think that um it’s kind of typical Tottenham fan reaction to kind of look for the reasons to focus on the things that weren’t perfect than the or weren’t um close to perfect than the things that that were closer to it you know in the first half I think we started really well I didn’t particularly necessarily agree with a lot of the commentary that I saw on TV I think that some of the reflections around the first half where that Tottenham weren’t great but United were awful I didn’t think that either team let themselves down apart from a few individual errors I think that some of the football Tottenham put on was spectacular you know when we click I always say this that tottenham’s the kind of the way that the the framework of our system um dictates that if the players are left to their own devices and sometimes calls on each player to kind of work in an unorthodox fashion if it works if they’re on the same wavelength and the chemistry is you know on on point then it’s unplayable and I think we saw you know five or six different phases of play in that first half and the start of the second that were just out of this world but then again mixed in with that you saw a lot of vulner ities and weaknesses and you know I think that Tottenham were well worthy of the of the victory on the night but it made for you know a fantastic spectacle great way to to see the quarterfinals off and look if we can you know carry on with the consistent themes of the the positives and just eyon out some of the individual errors rather than the team issues then I think that Tottenham have got every reason to look forward to Liverpool not just uh to on the weekend but also in the semi-final yeah man I totally agree on that sh I say it was a crazy chaotic game and I think it’s fair to say that look we all would have taken advancing however possible but I’m not sure if our hearts were ready for it I mean Chris look it has been a real up and down season so far it’s been full of a number of inconsistencies but I go in and say that for me I was fairly fairly impressed with the performance Spurs actually put out there and I have to say an agreement with sha there that this narrative around spurs’ game management at that game with respect if Fraser forer doesn’t make the couple of errors that he does I think Spurs see this game home comfortably so I was really bemused by the reaction definitely on the British side of broadcasting that Spurs his game management that game was appalling because I think up until an hour we had it spot on what was your thoughts around the way Spurs approached the game and the way it panned out towards the end there because it was I a crazy chaotic end to a cup tie which we had total control and dominance of at one point Chris I mean you said that like this season’s been up and down that game was literally up and down itself it was was insane I mean I thought we were brilliant in the first half to be fair we were brilliant throughout the game it was just like you said there was just mistakes and I hate to you know put it pinpoint it just on phraser but it was there was issues there and he’s got to learn from that now because he almost cost us the game and it’s such an important game for us as Tottenham for me I’m sure that a lot of other Spurs fans will agree you know this this cup game is what it’s all about this season I 100% feel that this is a priority for us and we have a chance of it we’ve beaten Man City we’ve now beaten united we can 100% do it if we focus on it and go and get those goals and we are doing it at the moment you know I mean look at us I mean we’re tenth at the moment the goal difference is insane it’s ridiculous it’s it’s Tottenham hbur right there um so we are getting those goals but it’s just we need to make sure that we are consistent throughout the whole game we’re also we we we we’re scoring in those goals you know when it is needed 100% it it’s just all about I feel like the Intelligence on the pitch as well I know with an at the moment for me I’m an in and I love the way that he plays I love how we are playing at the moment it’s all to me it’s all about Tottenham you know going for it and attack him but the boys on the pitch they need to be a bit clever at the moment you know if there’s going to be moments where they feel that they need to go to a certain position just go and do it because that is that is your responsibility at the end of the day um there’s got to be better football intelligence I feel um but overall I I thought we played great and it was phenomenal to see that goal from sunny I thought you know with everything that’s going going on you know with us with set pieces and then for him to go and score straight from the corner was just absolutely phenomenal and yeah it it was great I mean look at the the fans there absolutely fantastic it was a great atmosphere from what I heard lot of chance going on um certain ones I’m sure that we’ll probably May mention later on in the show but you know it was just great and you know I just feel like it’s a good start considering we’ve got a lot of injuries at the moment guys you know we really need to you know remember that and it’s it’s a lot of hard work and this is fast-paced football that we are playing at the moment um so it to me I just feel like they did work very hardly last night and I thought we deserved it I thoroughly think we deserved it it was just a shame with those mistakes which you know phras of I feel like he has played actually very well in previous games and even up until he made the first mistake Chris he made a wonderful save to den United getting back into the game I just don’t want to pinpoint him and say like he’s an issue it’s terrible you know because he has been actually really good and he hasn’t played that many games let’s be honest you know he he’s just come out of here and he’s done all that and yes there was mistakes just learn from it that’s all I want to know you know learn from those mistakes and go out and do give it your best and that’s what I hope now to see so and Vicario please get get well soon yeah yeah Vic I like to say on crutches I mean Andrew’s actually asked about Vic’s progress in regards to how far away he is and he just said look he is making steady progress you can understand at the moment we don’t really want to put a time frame on it because we know his Spur’s Injury camp which is now I got to say again for those that have missed that news in the in the past last couple of weeks Spurs are once again for the second season in a row doing a review of their medical staff I mean what club does a I mean listen you might arue you do do an annual review of your medical department but you’d like to think after doing it last season do we need to do it again I mean is AR we do need to do again so look you know again we’ll make this points I come over to you a huge huge win for Tottenham and a lucky Escape though as Chris mentions to see our path through to the semi-finals I mentioned it sets up a lovely I say lovely a real mouthwatering glamour High against Liverpool over two legs and we can’t get away from the fact look we are currently struggling without key players and again it goes back to Chris’s point there that have to learn their lesson from last night to have any hope in beating Liverpool I know you are someone that’s always generally a more glass half empty than half full kind of guy I mind me saying that sigh what were the takeaways from you from that game against Manchester United and how pleased and proud are you to see this team advaned to a cup semi-final I’m extremely proud and I think you meant glass more half full right than half empty my apologies the other way I just want I just want out there sry it’s been a long it’s been a long 24 hours yeah I just just want to make sure uh you know it’s branding you know it’s all place I put me my place you go for it please carry on no but I was pleasing and I think I think I think there’s three things here right it’s it’s what’s actually happened in the game and I think both Sean and Christina put it brilant ly with nuance and balance in in what the performance actually was and I think you you mentioned it too Ricky which is we put out a good performance especially considering all our injuries uh we dominated most of that game in in a sense of not conceding a lot of chances and having control and going up three goals and then there was individual mistakes and and we saw that and and as again Sean and Christina put out there’s a lot of context and a lot of things that you should take in account when you when you look at the actual performance and then there’s the media neutral reaction which to me was just baseless and exaggerated and lazy and kind of ignorant and you kind of just have to put that to the side and I thought and um handled that brilliantly he kind of guessed what they were saying and made fun of of of the general analysis of him and his approach to the game so you put that insides and then you have you know the grumblings from Spurs fans and I think this is kind of the most important part about you know I think a lot of people and a lot of fans saw that game the way Sean and Christina and I and you saw it uh but I think there’s people who will look at the way we play and and and the way we have you know injuries and keeper like Forester might not excel in playing out from the back and they will look at and and they will say why do you keep you know insisting on playing this way I think part of that is them kind of buying into the media narrative and they might just look at football a different way and to that I’ll just say like I think there’s a really important part here which which is you can’t chop and change every time you get an injury and our focus and our coach’s focus is the long term and and I saw this brilliant post which I just want to read out quickly it’s from John grenen who’s a coach who said uh in response to Spurs and and sticking to the plan uh the first thing you do in a c if the first thing you do in the crisis situation is to encourage players to abandon everything you worked on you’ll never get total buyin from them and he need True Believers not reluctant uh conscripts and to that point I mean if you look at the way we score those three goals that comes from how we play so you don’t get that without our system and our us trying to keep the ball and then you’ll have situation where players will make mistakes and if you look at the amount of goals we’ve scored H since an came into our club it’s something like 120 plus goals yep and we conceded two goals and and those came yesterday from goalkeepers making errors playing out from the back two so if you look at the benefits you get and Ash speaks about this all the time and you look at the down turn downside you can clearly see that the upside is much more impactful so that’s how I look at it looking at the long terms where we’re going what’s what’s what’s the what’s the aim of everything we’re doing yes and so you know I think that’s something fans who are still kind of frustrated with him not being pragmatic enough and not changing it up enough should have in mind that we there’s there’s a plan to this and uh don’t listen to you know what’s interesting s the points you’re making there look I have been at times this season a bit of a nay and called out when I do feel like for example the Chelsea game where in that first half for me it was way way too chaotic I think it needed somebody just to calm things down when we were going to up and just say look just keep the ball I know sh you’ve also been an advocate of just showing a bit more element of game management but I’ve got be h you know I will always try and call it as I see it and I looked at that game in the cab Cup last night and I just simply couldn’t understand the lazy punditry after the game a lot from the British media that were referring to the fact that you know we suddenly went gung-ho and we were the victim of our own downfall the reality and he got that question today he was like are you can you play this gung-ho style against Liverpool and I’m hear from in a minute on this point side I mean on this point you know I don’t think he goes and like he said in his presser last night he doesn’t tell the players to make the individual errors to put us under a sense of you know a lack of control the reality is that I don’t think you had any control over what happened last night the Gokey makes two errors and suddenly we’ve got a game on our hands because as we all know at home that atmosphere can change very very quickly because of our inconsistency this season you know I really do think you know again I’m happy to call it when I see it and shy I’ll come to you I mean I think sh you’ve been very similar to me that you’ve always I think been very fair when it comes to saying what n to be said in terms of the game management and approach but I will double down on the point that for me especially that game against you know man united that was not down to an element of game management that was down to the fact that players making individual erors sh is that right and we’ll get you to un mute on that point yeah I think the the the errors themselves obviously were um individual primarily and where 100% agree with everything that’s been said entirely the only thing I I would add though is I think that there were moments outside of the era when the pressure was on us in that in that 20 minute spell outside of those two goals when it was 3-2 there were moments where we carried on playing the same sort of um you know essentially doing the same thing over and over again and continually making more and more mistakes from it and at some point in that moment in that scenario somebody has to step up one of the leaders on the pitch has to let sort of step up and say let’s not be so robotic here you know Ang’s framework as as I interpret it anyway I don’t know if everyone agrees but I interpret the system as there’s quite a lot of abdication of responsibility which maybe is a a sort of a bad way of saying over to you to figure out the specifics of how you get it done I I always see unorthodox movements things you don’t see every week but you see one or two players here that are doing things that aren’t necessarily part of the typical behavior of a player in their position that’s outside of the the formation’s kind of strategy and so I do think there’s a lot of that kind of that kind of over to you to see how it works out now that has good good good bits to it and bad bits the good bits are that when it works is unplayable but there’s also that notion that if that’s the case then why do you not extrapolate that idea out a little bit further and when you’re under the pressure unnecessarily when you’ve just conceded two goals and you know that Fraser obviously his confidence is crippling at the moment you know’s he’s obviously going through a b a bad spell in front of 70,000 60,000 people at some point somebody else needs to say all right stop playing it back or kick it long if it does come back just get the ball out for the time being and that’s the only the only area where I would say that I I had an issue with the the players efforts outside of those moments I think ju for the most part it was two issues that that that caused us problems and the rest of the game was great with us when we had the ball it was fantastic but just in that little 20 minute spell I would have liked to have seen a basuma or a Madison a kulvi a sunny someone who’s a senior player at the top end of the pitch stopped passing the ball back to the Midfield who passed it back further to a young defense who were you know makeshift defense an 18-year-old who’s playing out position anyway who then obviously wants to get it back again and play it back to the keeper who’s already you know shy of confidence because of what’s happened it needed someone to step in and do something different but that’s the only criticism I have of the outside of those two individual erors shy just sticking with you in terms of that draw is now front up for Spurs look it’s we mentioned a real glamour tie and it’s turn our emphasis towards Liverpool now of course we’ve got this weekend those ties we played over the course of the week commencing January 6th and February the 3 that second leg tie to obviously having a b at home first it does mean with regards to the away legging anfield we know our record there isn’t great I mean sha I just think when it comes to this part of the draw now I mean you have to take what it is right there’s going to be no easy games between here and a final how do you view that game for or how do you view both legs for you in terms of Spurs having to be at home first and Away in the second Le does it really change your feelings on the game no in terms of the the home first I don’t mind that I think you know I obviously I think the playing away second leg would be beneficial as long as you’re still in the tie at Liverpool at anfield it’s a difficult place to play but for what it’s worth and I know we’re going to obviously talk you know a lot about Sunday as well Tottenham against Liverpool whilst we haven’t necessarily always been on the right side of the result in recent years the performances that we put in against them have always been you know fairly fairly consistently high in my opinion and I think that at anfield specifically we’ve usually had plenty of chances during those games to be able to get more out of the game than we have done in terms of points on the board I mean last season I think it was 43 obviously we we shut ourselves in the foot early but we came back and it was an interesting sort of last 25 minutes I don’t think the gap between Liverpool and Tottenham in the matches really does reflect the overall score lines that you’ve seen over the years and so in the cup it comes down to taking your chances on the night and hopefully that you iron out any kind of deficiencies over two legs look at home I fancy us against anybody and for what it’s worth you know against Liverpool who are team that do want to play their football that kind of plays into our hands of the three of the three options that we could have got I probably would have liked to have had Arsenal if I’m entirely honest and then Newcastle second and probably Liverpool third but okay list I don’t think there’s that much difference I think all three ties are very difficult away from home and I think all three ties are winnable at home it just comes down to you know how we are in injuries you know how we shape up as a squad in early January and also of course like I say down to moments individual performances and making sure that the chemistry and the wavelength are on it and for what it’s worth just to round off quickly I know Chris mentioned it at the start the fans last night were I think an absolute rockar of a of a sort of 12th man I think that in that moment when we were kind of slipping and you could see that the nervousness was kind of like you know eing into our our system I didn’t really feel from the TV at least I didn’t really get the impression that there was um the amount of nervousness within the fans that would normally be I think that they’ got behind the team when when United had the corners when it was 3-2 we were singing come on you Spurs that was it was a absolutely brilliant effort from them and we need that kind of level of support not only on Sunday but also in the uh in this in the first leg of the Liverpool game and for every other game that we’re playing I think that it makes such a difference when we are when the fans are behind the team and there’s not none of the kind of uh the fussiness about it then it you know it it it has a significant impact and I think we have to try and maintain that level if we can yeah I EO I thought the fans were absolutely tremendous absolutely tremendous and I totally agree with you that when we are like that in unison that does feel like an absolute 12th man it’s fair to say Chris just on that draw look and just said we’re in the we’re in the Hat which is the main thing it’s an exciting fixture there’s no doubt about that I could be wrong but in the recent history of the cowbell cup it’s even been won by Man City or Liverpool will have to be all of them to get through it’s a great draw for us obviously for an POA kogo it’s a two-legged tie against his Boyhood Club was it your pick of the teams we would have I mean what’s your feeling on that draw for you your win in there I mean first of all I would prefer us to play at home for the second leg um well because whatever that result is then we can go at home and then just boom I just feel like at B playing at home at a second leg is more important but for me I would have rather have had Newcastle but also if if Newcastle able to beat Arsenal and we lose I’d rather have Newcastle go ahead and do it it’s just you know it I don’t think you can get any like there’s nothing I I think James’s part would have been just as tough for us as anfield I mean isn’t great either I just I agree with you I mean we have listen whatever happens we have to know the funny thing is and I said this on the show we did last night that Spurs are aide that you know because of the nature of the cowbell Cup and the way this competition is seen and you come back on this Chris Spurs could go and beat in this competition man united Man City knock out Liverpool then face Arsenal in a final then you have fans of opposition clubs turn around to your saying it was only the carbo cup but you’ve just beaten four of the five biggest teams in English football to go and win it I mean you could have make it up right I mean we’ve all said it as well you have to beat the Beast the Beast the Beast the best in order for you to win it so yeah I mean if we go through that run and we absolutely we we nail it and win it that is a phenomenal run that we have done considering our situation at the moment with injuries you know we’ve all got youngsters at the moment who are not even got that much you know um experience it’s a phenomenal thing to say especially under an as well um but you know that is just how it is that is how the cup that’s how it goes you have to be able to beat these teams in order for you to win it so you know I just hope now with Liverpool’s situation I’m not sure with how it’s going to be injury-wise you know in January if there’s going to be some injuries with Liverpool and also in a situation with them at the moment because you know I’m sure that they’re going to be going for the title so for them it may not be that important to them so who knows what it’s going to be like um at you know during that time in January it might actually be a blessing and disguise for us but who knows but we just have to go out there and do it because I’ve said it so many times guys this is a priority we have to have to win a trophy at some point this season it’s it’s not even you know I I think an does seem to get that I mean in his most recent presses he seems to be alluding to the fact that you know this fan base although he might not agree which is quite funny because he seems to be very clear on this although he might not agree he seems to understand that amongst the fan base in general there’s a desperation for a trophy even though himself he doesn’t believe this would be the be and end or but he definitely acknowledges the fact that in the general consensus of the fan base I would say those that are in the stadium there’s a desperation for it which again I think is interesting I was gon to say also the players should understand this as well I mean I hope they do y y he’s been here for so long and to tr Travy if he was to leave with that trophy travesty same as Harry Kane worse but for me sunny leaving the club without a trophy is worse than Harry Kane leaving us without a trophy for me personally so I I just feel like they need to also have that mentality and the way that we play as well I just feel like the boys need to play a little bit with more risk they need to have that confidence instead of just passing every now and then it is like robotic play it you know when you watch it it’s just it’s literally just it’s all about passing all the time do some long shots do something creative because we can do it when we actually do we suc and getting some goals in and that’s exactly what we need to do um you know it’s it’s all about the I I feel like it’s like football IQ whatever they call it you know um we just need to be a bit more clever in that way and just go for it be confident with the ball you know just go out there and get those goals it’s it’s just so important I feel like that’s where we let ourselves down a little bit I know we you know we’ve under and your system but just kind of let the system flow through you like we get it I do agree with you there are times like you say there Chris to agree with you that you know you can see certain players are not willing to go with that element of risk but at the same time I have to remind myself we’ve scored 19 goals in the last three games we also lost 10 players so I mean something clearly is working on the attacking side of things even though you know the squad is apart I mean even ver like I say he dropped down with sickness I mean many might not be disappointed by that um so I need to bring you in before we do turn our attention to this League fixture which is obviously what we’re here for and I think what was quite interesting that we have to bring into the fact that Spurs are going to go that first leg without the suspended James Madison and Pat matar I think what’s really important to bring into Focus here is that the way in which definitely both the respective first leg and second legs will fall is that Liverpool got a crucial game against Manchester United during one of the Premier League weeks which I believe is just before the second leg so I just wonder you know there is that maybe feeling that maybe Liverpool won’t be using the cowbell cup as their ultimate priority this season is that how you would view that or do you think it’s far too early to be taking that narrative or taking that influence at the moment we have to wait and see where both teams are what are our schedule when when what’s the date of the game so of course in terms of both of those respective games we’ve got week commencing for us um January the 6th which I think obviously for us we’re going to be coming off the back of Tamworth in the FA Cup which again you know many would say it’s a definite win you know it’s a definite win but with Spurs you know what we’re like with cups no guarantee and yeah I think obviously for Liverpool as well they’ll be coming off the back of a a cup tie so it’ll be interesting to see obviously how we deal with that and again you have to factor in Europa League premier league and the injuries that we’ve got S I mean how do you view in terms of the priority for Liverpool in his competition yeah I have no idea I think they’re in a similar situation to us I think they’re in all cups right so they have a lot of games I just looked through their injury list and they got zero injury looking at January and February we don’t have we probably won’t have Cario back uh we won’t be able to get any new players in until Vicario and Romero will probably be back for that first game um but we won’t have much more of a Winger depth uh yeah I I think the thing with Liverpool in in my view is like to me they’re the clear clearly the best team in the league right now I think they’ve lost one game two games this season um at least in the league I think that last loss was in September I don’t think you you you get this trophy without beating Liverpool so to me it doesn’t really matter if we if we meet them like if we Face them now or if we Face them later on they will they were likely uh to always be a team we would have to go through um I don’t know I think to me comes back again to okay they might prioritize in a certain way and then we might not have the options we will have so how whatever way you look at it to me we’re the underdog the clear Underdog and and we will have to probably you know work some kind of Miracle to to win that game but that’s the fun I thought yesterday was kind of a miracle uh I did not expect to to be that good um against you know a team with a new coach with that new coach bounce OB OB Al on the backers what sides just to come in there they’ve just obviously got away to their neighbors noisy neighbors and beating them away from home I know City a bit of a mess right now but to go away and win 2-1 you would have thought they G to be bouncing into the game I know they’ve got the situation around rashford’s future but I agree with you on that I think we I thought we saw a much better team like the Manchester we beat earlier in the season was not this Manchester ni so so it’s hard for me to gauge where we and also we don’t the way it’s working right now we get sickness and injuries every other day so we have no idea what’s going to happen to that um happen until then so just looking at you know I think it’s going to be a priority for us obviously he he guesss that it’s a big deal I think to what Chris was saying about the Des and you were saying about the desperation for a trophy I think it’s interesting I think what I one thing that I like about an I think a lot of people don’t like about as and gets gives him criticism for is is he’s an old dude like he’s got patience and he’s got experience so he knows that desperation doesn’t always lead to the best strategy so he’s very disciplined in looking at it through the lens of the long term and I know I sound such I repeat myself so much but and through the long term his goal is to be build something that’s sustainably in these finals every season and can be multiple finals at the same time and so from that lens he doesn’t he’s not as desperate and he doesn’t make decisions through desperations that’s why it doesn’t change for every game it’s something that’s why doesn’t up before that Chelsea game when we have that High Line and N the right like you say we’re desperate and we have our our our long like we’ve been with this club for years so it’s the desperation is understandable but it’s his job to kind of you know measure take that desperation into account but not make decisions uh uh from a point of view of desperation so he’s got a this fine line he’s got to be respectful uh for the wishes and he also understands that winning a C cup and a trophy would give him a lot of Goodwill with the club and with the fan base um so but that I think that’s why he keeps repeating this my view is always the long term yep but um being in the semi-final is still a big deal so we’ll roll up with whatever we have and and do our best and Liverpool will be an immense um challenge no matter what team they put up I totally agree look what we are going to do we’re going to turn our attention to that League fiction now which is for our listeners and audio we’re building up to that right now a massive massive game again for Spurs in the Premier League they are coming thick and fast over of course this festive period we’re going to hear from both managers and especially Arnie slot who shared his admiration for an POA kogo even going as far to say that he would love to see Spurs win a trophy just not the league cup so before we do we’ll bring in an first who did tackle the points summer made earlier about his gung-ho football let here from an and I’m going to hear from AR we back with you after this very short break it was a crazy game can you though be that gung-ho on Sunday against Liverpool who are so good oh I’m not sure what you mean by gangho we we’ll play our football because that’s what’s winning Us games and uh that’s what we’ll do against Liverpool who are fantastic side um going really well um yeah and he’s coming he’s um it’s not easy when you’re taking over from you know somebody of the status of a of a Jurgen Club but you know they’re um they’re very settled um as a team we got quality um within the starting 11 within the squad and they’ve dealt with things you saw them last week with a man down and they still you know have real belief at the moment so they’re the standout team uh in the competition so far but um again on our day when we play our football we’re uh we’re pretty good opposition and I come from Holland but I did watch a lot of match of the day and I think about ginola Paul kesco uh Clan huddle and Regent Modric for me Rafa vat GTH Bale they’ve always been a certain brand in football for me and uh uh a certain identity and I think posu gives them that identity back completely so it’s it’s every time a joy to watch them great work that uh that Ang is doing over there uh and I hope this has been seen a bit more and I I also hope hope hope that he wins the trophy not the League Cup uh but I’m I’m I’m completely uh fan of his team for the for the Europa League because uh people always talk about trophies trophies trophies that that is so important now for me his brand of football his style of football is is so much more important and if you can combine that with winning something that would be so good for football in general because then people can start to talk stop talking about it it’s too attacking or whatever how on Earth can you play too attacking football uh I’ve said so many positive things now about him and his style that if I say not thing it seems like uh I’m I’m his agent so there you go an absolute glowing reference there from Hy slot for an poster cogu and for all watching audience and those that are watching on YouTube yes we are trying to teach you French in the background there for those that are wondering you know what are we trying to do on this show look we try to educate you at Tottenham we were trying to educate you with different languages there you go if you’re looking to learn French stick with us and we’ll try and give you more on this show and don’t panic we are not bringing T and domay back into your lives anytime soon and let’s crash bang wallet me and shy get any news about an undon B retraer in January for your hearts we I want to do that to you I just want to say ahead of that um look again lovely words there from Arie slot on an Posta cogo some clear respect there for him which is lovely to see I don’t think anybody would underestimate the job that he’s done Liverpool so far slot you know I have to say it’s been really impressive to see the way he has got Liverpool playing and only one defeat in the Premier League so far to be top of the table taking over from a giant in the management era you have to say in yurgen klopp shy how impressed Have You Been by the way in which slot has adapted to the Premier League and how he has taken on Liverpool as a job so far yeah um so impressed I always not my entire table over just then I uh yeah I think he’s been he’s been fantastic I think that if if you were looking at him before he came in the question marks around him were you know is he going to transition is the Dutch League to the Premier League is obviously a big step up we’ve seen lots of other people players and coaches come in and and flatter to deceive um so that was the the one question and the other one was how is he going to handle the transition from taking over from Jurgen klopp and I think most people would have given him the first season as a bit of a gimme to to figure it out because you know that kind of that Legacy strength that Jurgen klopp that kind of uh almost like a a dynasty that he built there is going to be incredibly difficult but the fact that he’s come in and smashed it out of the park so seamlessly without that much help in the way of trans we’ve just lost shy there just in the background we’re going to zip over we s s just a carrying up convers ation when you’re looking at what slot has done so far at Liverpool how impressed Have You Been by the way he has almost navigated his way there when it comes to the squad so far I’m incred I’m just going to continue what Sean was saying I’m incredibly impressed I think just you know coming in and replacing someone of Club stature H is so hard with his Charisma with his with the impact is that he’s had on in this league and you know just being as consistent as they have I’m I wasn’t joking before I think to me this is you know a team that are by far one of the best teams in in Europe and you know the way they defend I think they’ve conceded something like 14 goals something like that like they’re so defensively um solid uh there you go uh 13 in the Premier League 13 yep that’s phenomenal so been phenomenal yep yep and also I just love the construction of the team they have I mean they’re so lethal on the counter they have still have lots of weapons you know Dia Salah um I think Y is might be the one that’s still injured not sure about that but you know Nunes uh yeah this got they got so many weapons and he’s been so good at recognizing how to make the best out of his weapons and the things he has so I’m incredibly impressed I’m I’m I’m you know me I’m never negative but this is kind of a a this is a game that I won’t be overly uh disappointed if we lose because I think it’s no shame in in losing it I think it goes to something like what Sean Christin touched on I think there’s stuff that we still need to work on when it comes to maturity and the way handle you know game State and you know being able to be calm when we need to to speed it up when we need to and that maturity is not really there yet consistently for us and we still have experienced players like Madison and bisa we don’t know what version those plays we’ll see day to day sometimes and and um so if we come out there and our best the best version of our team is there I think we’ll get them a hell of a game but uh yeah this is one that I’m I’m really curious to see how we’ll handle because I think it’s it’s a tough one yeah just bring Chris in there just come back to you sh on that point point you know you looking at the Players they’ve got there that could do some damage to us you touched on there the transition of how you know slot has really done well so far Liverpool and the way he’s managed them up until this point are there any players that maybe a silly question who are worrying you for Sunday they’ve got some really good players in there is anyone in particular with the way any of V that we’ve got at the moment does massively concern you and can cause us a maximum amount of damage we’ll just bring shy off mute I think sh’s got to R mute from his own end it’s all tech tech stuff here we will get there we will got we got sorry about that um yeah just to finish off the AR slot thing just just real real quick like what I think he has done obviously come in and to smash it out of the park as quickly as he has it’s kind of terrifying that with more time and more budget and some players if you know you know if Salah does move on if he doesn’t what whatever they’re going to do next it’s it’s quite worrying that he’s come in and so seamlessly taken them as far as he has already what what I would say with regards our our chances on on the weekend for me I think at the moment with the shape of their their team and how much of their sort of goal responsibility goes through one man at the moment even though he’s not necessarily the Creator in cheap he’s obviously the kind of the output Merchant the output Master rather and I think that at the where I would say that there’s some con concerns for me is you know the way that we play if we do kind of pull those fullbacks in with Archie gray probably playing on the left and then Jed Spence likely to be the guy outside him if Mo Salah has a good performance it’s always going to be difficult no matter who’s in there but if you had a Mickey vanen and a maybe a fit Destiny doggy on top form you might have some better opportunities to kind of Cil that threat with Archie gray look he’s been brilliant for what his worth I thought he was phenomenal last night and uh and I think Jed Spencer started his you know his Tottenham career two and a half years later than he intended to but he’s been you know a breath of fresh air as well going forward where I just worry is that counter attack that ability for for for Salah their kind of keyy man to do the damage he can against two relatively inexperienced players at least playing playing together playing out position is that does that does concern me and the other side I guess how did Tottenham get their their kind of success if you’re looking for vulnerabilities in the Liverpool system it’s difficult to find them but I think that you probably would look at and say if you were a team that had you know had your pick you would probably look to to Target Robertson down the left you know if he is playing I’m not sure if he is but he’s not the guy that he once was and if not him Simas that’s probably a better angle for attack and if not there you probably go down on the counter against Trent down the right hand side and even though Tottenham seem to play with a lot of width and and the kind of inverted fullbacks but it allows the for the the forward guys to get out there I don’t think dei’s at his best on the right hand side I like him when he drifts in and so if you were to go with Brennan Johnson you know if if you’re looking at Robertson and thinking that’s the area where you can attack that’s the area where you can have some Joy taking them on as a one-on-one then you know I don’t know if Johnson’s the guy for that he’s not really a one-on-one specialist neither is and and Dei certainly isn’t either he’s better drifting in so where Liverpool are probably vulnerable they’re Achilles Hill if you like if there is one it’s probably in the areas that don’t really fit tottenham’s system at the moment the only thing I would say is that I think that maybe uh we have a good chance of kind of if Nunes is playing at the top then maybe you’ve got a good match for him in R dragon in terms of strength and aerial threat and that kind of fit and you know and maybe you could if you’re looking for a sunny on four maybe he can attack into that kind of uh in that space behind Trent so it’s going to be interesting but if I’m entirely honest with the injuries that we have and the shape of the Liverpool team it probably doesn’t fit tottenham’s best sort of uh version of themselves against their best version so you just hope that there’s some poor performances on the day from the Liverpool team and hopefully some top performances from us and we can take advantage where possible absolutely Fair sh absolutely Fair on that point so I’ve bring Chris in here as well just to update on that team news that and just given us in his pre-match presser he was ask Timo Vera will be back available of course Timo Vera missed the win over Manchester United due to illnesses look hopefully the boys are coming back now as it was a late night Timo was unwell so we’ve got 48 hours to recover him beforehand so hopefully he will Destiny should be okay Destiny a doggy in terms of like I say he’s play a lot of games this season I believe the most along with of course Pedro porro so it will be interesting to see what an posu does do a reminder that Sergio regulon was back as a Spurs player um which was quite remarkable he actually put an Instagram out there an Instagram message out to say hey Mom I played a game of football yesterday which um kind of sums up really where we are with reg on and his football in career and one man I think you know many of us have been crying out to say give this guy an opportunity and you know what I think every time Spencer’s played for Tottenham he’s tooken it and grabbed it with both hands and you know an made the point that he has been fantastic probably deserved to play a bit more but given Archie was having to cover for left and right back it’s not like he’s coming and just filled in for us he’s actually made a real impact I just think on that basis alone Chris would you be in favor of seeing Spence retain his place in the 11 for the Liverpool game or would you be maybe thinking to change it up what’s your thoughts in terms of the fullbacks for this one for you I mean who can say that Spence doesn’t deserve this it’s he as soon as he’s been you know coming to the team it’s been he’s completely changed the whole game um yesterday I thought he played phenomenal and I’m just I’m really looking forward and I hope to see him more more now I just I don’t really know what the issue’s been I’m sure there’s like reasons for it but for me I think Spence has been absolutely incredible and it’s just such a shame that we haven’t seen more of him um even like with the con days like he was just a shadow and we forgot about him um so I I just it feels like a completely new signing um now with Spence and he’s doing absolutely great and I just hope that he keeps it up now um because he really has made a huge impact on on the on the pitch I think um but yeah just going back with slot I just I think he’s been I it’s such a rare occasion for me to actually uh like a Liverpool manager but I think his words are really good and um I love the praise that he’s been given to an I’ve kind of feel that their attitude is quite similar to each other but I yeah it’s just it’s going to be very nervous times to be playing Liverpool because I think they’re doing a phenomenal job whatever slot is doing and he hasn’t exactly had like you know huge names of signings but whatever whatever he’s been doing to them it’s working and you know it he’s it’s his first season in the Premier League as well he’s just really settled in and I I’m really enjoying the way that he’s you know managing Liverpool at the moment um I just hope he can do us a favor now and just maybe you know let let us let us win this cup come on you know You’ just said it and deserves a trophy give it give it to us but no it’s it’s um yes yesterday I just thought with some players I’m not going to pinpoint at them actually I am Pedro por I’m a little bit worried about at the moment but you know do in Chris is it is it a form thing for you is it just is it fatigue I personally think it’s fatigue he looks absolutely [ __ ] he does that’s that’s what I think and I I hate because like I don’t want to pinpoint him and say he’s been playing poorly or whatever but but I feel it is purely because of that he’s played a lot of games of us and he needs a break it does happen um so you know it’s things like that we need to make sure that we’re we’re looking after our players at the end of the day it’s the same with as soon as we got you know Mickey vanderin and Romero we need to make sure that our players are fully fit at the end of the day instead of just you know throwing them on the pitch because it can end up to even worse complications for the player we’ve seen which we’ve now seen and yeah exactly and those players mean a lot to us you know missing them massively um so you know just got to make sure that you know we’re getting breaks for these boys for real because I keep saying it it’s fast-paced football that we’re playing and that’s why it is so damn important for us to have a good backup as well everybody needs to be fully you know full of energy for this it’s just it’s really important for us to make sure you know we are looking after our players um but we just got to see with that let’s yeah you know what’s really interesting on this Chris I mean do you think now look spurs in a seminal it’s not like a negative sign on it but there will be I think you know again as a player and you’re not a footballer you know if you don’t think about this thing you know you’ve got a semi-final in the back of your mind do you still feel there’ll be the emphasis and focus on the league at the moment because you know we’re not in the greatest of positions there in terms of the position but you know given the fact again you know we’ve seen in the Premier League that if you get two wins for Tottenham you know it suddenly catapults you back into not just the top four race but suddenly you’re then kind of chasing down there I say you know four third place I mean where are you in terms of our league for at the moment it’s so up and down do you worry that you know it’s great progressing the cups do you think that will become a distraction in terms of the league or do you think you know Andre’s got a way in which he will make the players understand that the league will be just as important you know because again I just feel with the hierarchy 100% you know their emphasis has always been on our league form you know they want us in around the top four and if you’re not in around the top four we know the manager seemingly Under Pressure so where do you go on that basis in terms of the league form is it just as important that we try find that more consistency in the league as we know our form has really been as been as we can see there highlighted you know lost win draw loss loss win you know win loss win loss has been kind of spursy inconsistency apart from those first 10 games of an in that honeymoon period of course it’s going to be important I mean I’m sure Andel be you know every game is important to him at the end of the day um but I just it’s it is we’re all we’re you know we’re in all the cup games AR we um so we just got to make sure that we’ve got the balance for all of those games you know um but with the league at the moment it’s really difficult and well to be honest even the cup games I just feel it’s so hard to predict Tottenham at the moment you know we can go and beat City in the league and then we can go and knock them out in the cup it’s it’s you know go and beat Aston Villa as well it’s just up and down towi but then we lose to ipswitch look it is literally Tottenham at the moment but I just feel like every game we’re getting a lot of strengths from what we’ve learned from it and then there’s lot we go backwards a little bit it’s just we need to make sure that we’re getting that balance you know yeah yeah that’s fair it’s really difficult it’s honest I I find it really hard when people ask for predictions about Tottenham I can’t predict it we could be honestly I couldn’t call the some I couldn’t call last night the same way that sounds silly I couldn’t really call a sampton game I thought that had a real banana skin written all over it I mean like I say sha is uh nodding there as well I just it’s interesting because the fact of the matter is s that Fulham and Newcastle have stopped Liverpool recently so I just wanted the same question to you you know I think sha made a really good point there when he said Spurs have got to be the best version of their selves and also Liverpool players to have a Ru off day for Spurs to get a result here is that how you view it s for you going into this one that Spurs have got a their absolute maximum and Liverpool players have got to have an off day here for a result or do you look at the recent form guide that we have seen Fulham and Newcastle stop Liverpool and being at home on the back of advancing in the cup there should you know be a decent atmosphere there although given I again just to be very very clear there are going to be protests as we are aware for the current hierarchy and especially Daniel Levy so I wonder how that plays any factor into it for you if you want to comment on that uh yeah so those games games were two draws right so they didn’t they didn’t even lose those games um I think I think it’s it’s a mix of a little bit of everything so I think I think it’s important that an gets the tactics right because I think uh even if the narrative is that we never change anything we actually do I think there’s adjustments you can make you can pick the right type of fullbacks I think Sean brought up a couple of of things if you look at like the first thing I look at is is who’s going to dominate the ball and I think looking at U games like the ones against City we’ve been kind of conceded we’ve kind of conceded The Possession and been more of a counterattacking team and favored being a little bit more conservative with our fullbacks not inverting them as much I think you know doggy if I’m not wrong I think he has a chance to play Sunday um I think and said something about he was going to play should be okay he had said he should be okay Destiny to play you you’d thr him back in s for you would You’ thr him back in yeah and I and I might put Jed on the right side like y because a little bit Yeah and actually a little bit more defensively aware compared to por sometimes when it comes to to marking and also you know him not being as uh tired as poro might be able to kind of uh hang with Diaz a little a little bit more and um and then I mean if we have Johnson on and we we are playing a more transitional type of game where we are play a little bit more conservative with how we press or a little bit more of a bid block and try to hurt them on the counter a little bit more and I feel like that’s how we’ve got a success against City for example I think that can be successful I do think the best version of of the players we put out will have to uh we have to see that I think uh bisa had a great game if he’s playing again if we can see that performance again I think if if kesi goes uh Central and Madison doesn’t play that’s something that’s gives us a little bit more Fitness on the pitch uh I think there’s stuff you can do with with the formation and how you what players you put out that could that could have a great impact on this game um and then I think you know in terms of prioritizing the T like the table and the point tally and stuff like that if you look at it and it goes back to Something Christina and I think even sean and you point out earlier about the gold difference and where we are on the table I think if you look at it and try to analyze our season this far I think you can see that we scored the most goals or at least up there with one or two one and two up there in the in the table of the teams that scored the most goals and I think we were like I think just three go three teams has conceded more goals than us yeah so we have a solid defense we have a good attacking numbers but then we have games where we haven’t shown up ipswitch Crystal Palace second half against Brighton Leicester so we still got games that you can look at and say there are total uh you know brain dead performances and I some of that goes to injuries I think some of that goes to the schedule us being able not being able to put you know maintain our high levels of intensity and some of that goes to you know just immaturity which to some extent can be explained with having such a young team and being just a year into a new project so I think the underlaying numbers tells us that we should be up there fourth fifth some somewhere up there uh we one of the best teams statistically in the league yeah yeah I think that gives an the cover he needs that he can put point to Trend and say even if with 10 we’re 10th now that’s more a product of how even the table is right now it’s it’s you know one win and we it six I think two wins and we third um so it’s I would look more at the pointal and less at the table and look at the trends more than Focus too much at individual losses yep so I think it’s I think it’s I think I’m pretty confident and I think an had put out an a a war cry when he said I think a week ago that we have four really important games that can be determined our season yep and hopefully and we’ve seen from this week that the team seems to have rallied around that war cry and are putting up really strong performances so let’s hope for that and let’s hope for some tactical smarts and for some luck to be honest I think people underestimate that word luck you know people kind of think oh you know that that’s just a thing you know you do getb but we are overdue it in terms of the injuries at when we have this yeah especially when we have this kind of makeshift defense if we’re lucky and we score our chances suddenly everything looks different if we have one of those games where we miss everything pressure comes back to us and we perform less lesser than we are so yeah yeah well I mean I was s his point so I’m the first one to always hold accountability to whether it’s the manager the players you know but at the moment you know when you’ve got 10 senior players out and we’ve scored 19 goals in the last three games I know given one of them is against Southampton but at the same time you have to recognize that whatever you say about whether you like the manager you don’t have the manager the players are playing for him you know I mean you can’t get away from that I think it’d be crazy to suggest they’re not because you are seeing the instructions being followed to some degree although you could argue you know when players about individual errors you know that’s their own self-d doing and self harm to the team but you can’t sit there and say that they’re not playing for at the moment because they most certainly are so we’ll see of course how this plans out I mean shy where are for you on that before we go to predictions where are you on the table for you at the moment I mean how much is that a problem when it comes to the league form when you equate it to what we’re doing in Europe where we know we’ve got to cut the games to ultimately qualify for there we’ve got a semi of the CBO cup to look forward to we’ve got obviously um FA Cup coming soon with Tamworth in a draw that you’d favorably say Spurs should progress I mean how do you balance the league form for you is it the B an end of The League form for you shy well listen I’ve always said that I think that the league is the best barometer of where you are versus your opposition um in you know in general in the Premier League because you can’t avoid playing everybody home and everybody away and ultimately the variance that can affect you with far more impact in Cup competitions things like you know bad refereeing decisions or injuries or bad weather or the draw the luck or the unluck of the draw if you like all of those things play a massive part and a m have a massive impact in your in your story of your cup uh if your cup runs less so in the league and you hope that the the good you know is evened out by the bad or vice versa in in the in the league more often than it is and I think actually for what it’s worth I think a lot of people just say oh all even out in the end I don’t think that necessarily is the case I think you if you look at the certain teams this year you look at wolves you look at Liverpool there there’s two different stories there around things going their way more so than they don’t or vice versa in the case of wolves so I definitely think that generally speaking though it’s a fair to say that if you finish fourth over the course of the entire campaign or third or second it’s a better barometer of where you are than just looking at how you go in the cups because um like I said there’s too many things that can that can happen that are outside of your control um with regards Tottenham specifically look I I think that I’m guilty probably of saying a couple of weeks ago forget about the league forget about top four it’s done we’re not we’re not consistent enough we’re too volatile and uh you know I don’t see any kind of change in the manager style which you know was very problematic for me a couple of weeks ago now I’m sort of warming to the idea that you know it is what it is get on board it or don’t you you either on you know you either like it or you don’t but you know after last night’s performance I’m kind of back in back in the uh in in the bucket of I’m bought it again until we lose and I’m you know is what it is right that’s the it is it is a b crazy football club in it week to week I mean it’s just crazy it is crazy the um but I think your five points off fourth I this this season kind of feels a little bit like the Leicester season to me where nobody wanted it everyone kind of was losing to everybody else and you know crazy things happened and I think that you can see right now Liverpool’s last couple of games they’ve smashed everybody out the way for most of the season but the two teams that have come up against recently they didn’t do that well against Southampton the other night they they got past that one in a tight game fulam and whoever the other one was you know they’re not necessarily I mean they are they’re better than everybody else this season but everybody else is very beatable and has ups and downs and I think Tottenham are part of that bucket as well so I don’t really ref reflect that that much at the moment at least on the league and think of it as uh too emblematic of where he are as a football club I think the league is just a weird one and Tottenham are going through a weird season with a lot of uh a lot of issues that are outside of our control with a lack of you know injuries and so I’d love to see us get a a strong long period of extended uh minutes on the field without the other things coming in to to impact us so that we can get a real judge of where we’re at a real gauge of where we’re at but at the moment um like I say I’m far more focused on the cups we’re in all Four competitions into the second half of the season a semi-final who knows like you say Tamworth should be able to get past that one and look the Europa League as well is also something that I don’t think is a is is too much to bite off if we can get these guys back fit and they can for the mo for the most part stay fit for for an extended period Then I think we’ve got we’ve got a C A Chance in all three competitions and look and and the league will figure itself out as we as we move on totally agree Shan stick with you prediction what we going for uh uh 22 22 who’s the who’s who’s that point better for Tottenham Liverpool Tottenham for sure okay shy thank you so much Sony anything coming up we should be keeping eye on the Spurs talk show and we’re seeing Bugsy around which is lovely to see is it yeah yeah she’s starting her own Instagram Channel I think in the in the coming days that’s that’s that’s I’m going bloody wrong I need let a dog run ass did a great job Chris thank you so much you’ve been a diamond for doing it for us I can’t thank you enough I’ve got to say go we’ll we’ll go we’ll got Chris go sorry shy yeah yeah yeah sorry just Qui in terms of the personal shows just uh as I say if I can I’ll be putting the videos out there if I can’t then if I go away for a little while you know why it’s no other reason other than Shenanigans but thank you for having me Ricky it’s always a pleasure mate pleasure man like I say look forward to having you in January and more to come Chris has come around to you Chris has been looking after our Instagram a little bit for us we’re Drive tell you it’s all fun games I I don’t have to even make a story let put on Instagram post out I haven’t got a bloody h so behind the times I bet can do this you know normally God I mean apologies for anyone that seen the Instagram post but I’m I’m trying to do my best I guess I it’s just um yeah I mean h I’m not looking forward to Sunday I can’t lie to you guys my prediction is not going to be probably healthy like not something that totam fans want to hear but yeah um I’m gonna it sounds so harsh I’m going to go for I’m going to go for 21 Liverpool that’s what I’m okay and that’s on the basis with our injuries more than Liverpool’s form Chris or a bit of both in you for that I think it’s a bit of both and I I just it’s so unpredictable who knows we could go out there and actually Absolutely Fresh them I don’t know of this team anymore it’s ridiculous yeah the good thing is we are at home I forget that we are playing at home so I just hope that the team really back the boys on the Sunday I know that there is a protest going on as well which um I thought I would mention you know cuz at the end of the day we are doing this because of the love of the team that is what it is it’s not personal it’s not a personal attack to Daniel ly it’s because we want change and I think a lot of people a lot of the fans something has sort of clicked into it you know we want change and I think because we’ve got this manager that’s come in in playing the football that we have been dying to have for a long time and we know where the issues are like there’s not been much backup you know look at our bench we’ve got youngsters that’s all we’ve got at the moment not saying that that’s a bad thing at the end of the day it’s great but we need also experienced players to also help those youngsters that we’ve got coming in um and it’s it’s even you know to do with we need better you know with sunny being the captain I feel like we do need stronger leadership in our team it 100% And you know this is what it is all about we’re all in this all together you know all of us for talking about Tottenham all the people watching and commenting it’s because we love this club we just want the best out of it and that’s what I feel the protest is going to be about on Sunday so yeah that’s what it’s going to be just I don’t want it to everyone think you know it’s full of hate it’s nothing to do with that we just want change for the good of our club that we love so um yeah and if we’re losing just stick on the darts again never mind on that on that process 3 p.m. opposite the club shops if you wish to join that I said there’s been a lot of coverage around that I’m sure you’ll see more in this coming weekend Chris thank you so much we’ll see you back with us in the new year thank you so much again for all your amazing contribution is year you how much we love you on here God how many years it been Chris is it over I think it’s been over two and a half years now it’s it’s crazy how it started and yeah I love I love my little Spurs family on here and everyone’s comments on here is just absolutely BR you guys all cracked me up and everyone I’ve met on here you know Simon and Sean it’s it’s just I love it it’s it’s like we’re in a pub chat about our team you know it’s a lovely little Community Chris thank you so much all the love to you we’ll see you very very soon thank you silus close with you like I say big game against Liverpool we’ve discussed the pros the negatives the players that are going to be obviously on show and how that could affect the game what you going for S prediction wise for this one yeah so I don’t think we’ll keep a clean sheet let’s say that uh so let’s go to one I don’t think that’s taken right we win two two two on Spurs I always knew with s is never going to come on here and predict Spurs to lose right he’s always a positive Tottenham fan so we have to keep that Trend up and I mean I say s for you the takeaways been the fact that you know you said this earlier if we do play to our maximum with Tottenham you just never know right you just never know what kind of Tottenham is going to turn up and we play to our maximum as shy said a coule off day you quite never know right yeah and I mean like if you look at the at the games we’ve had we win big and we lose by by a goal or something so I think that that’s something if you get what I’m saying so absolutely yeah and also just want to shout out the the pro protest I think a couple of weeks ago you know I was fighting tooth and nail on on Twitter about you know not when the when the heat was going towards and to kind of let’s not you know give Levy and easy out let’s support the club uh let’s support the the team let’s support the coach and put that criticism toward leaving and I think this this last week last couple of weeks actually I feel like the the energy has been right it’s been support the team uh sing an name but also put the criticism towards um uh Levy and the board when it comes to giving him what he needs uh let’s not you know let’s break the cycle let’s get behind something and let’s be constructive with the not just criticism but what we want to what what kind of change we want what is it what’s the purpose what what is it that we want so I think that’s really important that point you know again and it’s open to everybody to want to if they want to go if they don’t want to go I think it’s really important you make that point you know I don’t think anybody should be forcing the protest anybody it doesn’t feel comfortable to attend I just think it’s one of those things where if you want to attend you’re more than to do so have some that aren’t there yet they’re not there yet and I think you have to respect that fact that you know not everybody’s Tipping Point is right now for a huge period or for a huge section of fans it is right now for some it isn’t you have to respect the point that if some do want to go and don’t want to go it’s open to those that want to go so listen we’ll see how that comes on we’ll see as Spurs get on we’ll be back with you Simon thank you so much can I just can I just do one thing so please can I instead of promoting my Twitter H just go to last word on Spurs um H and support Ricky this kindest man in in the fan base you should just oh you wouldn’t know it’s been a pleasure to get to meet you Ricky you know that and through you all these fabulously beautiful Spurs fans and on that on that point this fan called Paul McKenzie he knows that I’m a Roma fan and a Spurs fan So and I’ve never talked to him I’ve never met him but just randomly he DMS me and he asks me if I want the program from the Spurs Roma uh game and he mails it to me to Sweden on his own buck and I just want to shout him out and to show you guys what real what a real family this fan base can be in there I just want to shout and out well that me out there’s still some really decent people in this world cuz I like you don’t get always those nice nice stories so s thank you so much for that and shout out to that wonderful human being for doing that it just shows you there is some good still in this world so been an absolute pleasure I think you’re back with us again in the New Year Newcastle United a huge game so looking forward to seeing you there sha is with with us in Jan as is Christina too guys there you go we are for you thank you so much he took it away before I did listen let’s side take it away come on you Spurs a big weekend for us from the one of all Christina and it’s from the brilliant sumon you man from the wonderful Shan Butler Simon said it come on you Spurs have a great weekend as always come on Co
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