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[Music] [Music] he welcome back to the channel and welcome back to another edition of the Spurs chat podcast in this Edition we’ll be looking back at that fantastic win at the deih had Stadium Manchester City nil Tottenham 4 now we’re live on YouTube we’re live on X and Facebook and twitch this evening we will also be previewing the totam hbur V Roma game in the Europa League which of course takes place on Thursday evening at the Tottenham hburg Stadium 8:00 pm kickoff now before I get into it an announcement from Tottenham hosur football club around 20 minutes ago it states we can confirm that goalkeeper Vicario has today undergone surgery for a fracture on his right ankle Vicario will be assessed by a medical staff to determine when he can return to training this is absolutely terrible news for totam HB football club particularly after such a fantastic win and everyone being on a high right now it just seems that these sorts of things happen time after time now back with me is three returning guests and this is an international podcast this evening we have got Italian journalist Simone delum back with us of course director uh we football station Simone great to have you here how are you I’m fine mate I’m fine delighted to be back uh to be back on the show great to have you here um also joining us is Gareth mcginness all the way from Ireland Gareth good evening how are you all good Chris um great weekend um obviously bad news there just come out but um trying not to think about it too much and trying still on a high from the weekend so um oh great to be on Monday night as usual um looking forward to the podcast with the two boys good great to have you here Gareth and joining us from Melvin he’s just come back from Canada I tell you International podcast and a half Melvin you’re joining us from me um from molter now how are you yeah I’m well um it’s been a while since I’ve been on and uh specifically asked you to come back on um because obviously been a while and um needed to get some things out and I you know I listened to the Pod and had a seven hour flight from Canada and listened I think to about four or five podcasts in a row cuz I missed out you know so in my head I’m still living I lived out the I switch game and and and all the conversations we’ve had in between and and I’ve caught up now speak about City so you know excited to be back and and talk with you know with with Simone and Gareth and obviously yourself and um yeah looking forward to the podcast great to have you guys here um Simone let’s start the show with you this evening um this breaking news from Tottenham hbur football club in the last 20 30 minutes vicario’s today undergone surgery for a fracture on his right anle ankle this is Major news for Spurs isn’t it it’s terrible news it’s terrible news yeah definitely definitely of course in the season he has got he had got he has been got some troubles on set pieces but of course we are talking about one of the best goalkeepers in the in the Premier League uh so after 4 nil after a 40 away at the Ard there is no there is no that that was no needing need of of this news so let’s check let’s wait for for the scan let’s wait for to discover to find out how many how many weeks will he will he will he will miss in the in this couple of months uh it’s a sad news also because uh the SPs pictures are very very busy so we are heading to the Christmas period many many games a lot of points ahead a lot of point points that will describe the season so uh it’s a huge chance for f for frer foster uh let’s hope he it’s gonna be okay for the for the job from now until the end of the year we play 10 games in 30 Days Seven Premier League two uh Europa League and one League Cup um Gareth let’s get your thoughts on the news on Vicario um how long do you think he’s going to be out for it’s difficult to say it’ll depend on the the fracture itself um I’m assuming this happened when he went down in the game he would up he was a PO header from porro um and he jumped they won the ball and landed awkwardly and he was down receiving treatment and he played on I can only assume he played on through the adrenaline I remember was Nan broke his arm and funny enough until they score the winner against ason Villa one year so just the adrenaline of it all probably kicked in the fact that we were having such a good day he’s played on um maybe done more damage I’m not sure but he obviously must have reported it after the game players probably had Sunday off and then they come back on on Monday and had the had the scan and it’s obviously some sort of damage there and they they felt needed surgery I would imagine we not see him day well after Christmas middle of January hopeful of getting them back Derby maybe um that could be quite up on the I think spur AR quite sure themselves it’ll depend fast it heads um look one of those things that happens you know Liverpool have had injury problems their goalkeeper one of the best in the world and they’ve been fortunate enough they young goalkeeper like qu kellerer he’s been excellent for Ireland’s coming and done a great job I don’t think we have that luxury of you know I think Foresters a an older goal keeper past his best I don’t think he’s particularly great with his feet um and and you seen in the commentary game he he really struggled will he be will he be better from crosses um I’m not sure he doesn’t look particularly convinced in that game but maybe he just needs a run of games um look your second choice keeper is never going to be as strong as your first choice um all than Liverpool I don’t think there’s any our team maybe maybe Arsenal had it last year with Rams day but it’s impossible to keep two goalkeepers happy and I think that’s why you’ll see ker possibly move on from Liverpool they all want to play and you’re only going to play his injuries for Cup games so you know easy saying should we go and get another goalkeeper the reality is we won’t because Vicario will be back and he’s the number one unless you’re going to to get somebody better than Vicario um that’s not going to happen do you do you risk going for young goalkeeper like Austin um as he ready you’re who knows until he’s given the opportunity but I would imagine Fraser Forester is going to be the the goalkeeper in place until Vicario comes back and it always seems to happen I mean Baner was PL unbelievable before he got that injury um when he come back that last time I know he’s got the ban now but he had a really strong Danny got injured and I think it was vicario’s best game of the season on on Saturday you know it was excellent you know he does have to make too many outstanding saves but he made half decent saves look really really easy because he never parted anything he was very sure with his hands and he was very good in in the air so really for strit you only know what you hav and when he when he lose it and I guarantee over the next few weeks we’ll be praying for RAR to come back because think Fraser Forester is nowhere near the level of aario at at this moment in time so it’s going to be a tricky period there’s so many difficult games coming up but look we just really are going to have to outscore teams anyway I think that’s what we’ve been pretty much doing this season I know we got a clean sheet on Saturday but I think we’re scoring that many goals there are games we can win by outs scoring the opposition and we’re going to have to do that probably even more now but it’ll be interesting to see Chris cuz we done the we done the analysis shows early part of the season and we spoke about how they play out in the back and it does start with Vicario and he is quite good with the ball at his feet and that is going to be a huge loss not just his shot stopping but he’s have already get his plan from the back and Fraser Forester a keeper from a different generation where he wouldn’t agree up with that coaching he wouldn’t agree up with that philosophy um so it’s not something you should expec him to be great at um but ultimately it’s just going to be a big blow and we’re going to have to move on Chris it happens that a lot of teams get injuries and look the one thing I would say this year is we haven’t relied on one player at any at any time we had players out from time to time and we’ve coped well enough over a run a game so let’s just hope it’s the same Grant Jardine writes here um although Vicario is inconsistent there’s a massive Gap to our back backups which I completely agree with and I completely agree with you G I think Vicario had a fantastic game at the etti had um I called it the Dey had earlier uh but the etad stadium on on Saturday made some fantastic saves of course Manchester City were very wasteful in that final third but anything that came vicario’s way he dealt with extremely well Melvin in the last half hour I’ve seen on social media so many Spurs fans saying that we are cursed it seems like whenever we have something nice whenever we do something uh dramatic and uh you know fantastic and we’re all smiling of course I’ve no doubt that all four of us have been smiling you know throughout our Sunday you know gone into work today everyone strutting their stuff you know feeling absolutely fantastic about that win of the 8 had and then you know bang you know there goes the news um Monday evening it’s just so frustrating isn’t it yeah it’s it’s disappointing because I mean we don’t have really backup to him that’s adequately You Know cover you know you lose Romero dragons in fills in you lose you know midfielder another midfielder slots in the same with the wing I think I think he was the only really really weak weak spot in our team I don’t think we have adequate cover Foster was just brought in you know for in a way for financial reasons he was free he was English you know he counted as an English spot and um and I think we just stuck with him and we haven’t gotten to the to that to to replace him yet or or to find you know competition for for Vicario yet I think we’re getting there you know we’re going to need to fill in that spot but at the moment you know we left it short and I think in the summer we did mention we were light in that position and it was brought up on the podcast but you know this the previous season you know Vicario played the whole season and we didn’t have any problems so we just thought oh maybe we’d get lucky again and um I just did a quick Google search to see how long you know an ankle fracture lasts you know how long it takes to heal and and from Google it says you know depending on the body somewhere from six to 12 weeks so let’s say 10 weeks you know it’s going to be probably till next year till early early January till the guy plays again so thinking of the fixtures that we have you know pretty strong fixtures you know League League Cup Europa League Premier League it’s going to be tough and um it’s going to be a big ask for Fraser forer in in my head I’m already thinking yeah we’ll probably drop some points in the Premier League we’ll drop some points in the Europa League but the main one for me I really want to get through is the League Cup I really want to beat United and get in the next round and I think if we can get through that game with Fraser Foster and and and and we’ll have Vicario back I’m I’m processing this you know as we speak because the news broke only what 20 minutes ago so usually it takes me a couple of days until I have to speak about this on the Pod so the first thing I thought of was The League Cup and and how is that going to affect us because the league you know we can drop points because I don’t think we’re we’re ready to compete for for top four yet even though we Dro silly points and we’re we’re making we’re making steps in the right direction I said in the summer in August when we had our you know our chat one to one I I expected us to be you know up and down to have these type of Victories and to have you know theep switch kind of losses I expected us to to be for this to happen for man but we’re seeing improvements you know on the pitch and I don’t think an will say I mean this is another challenge for an an has been handed many challenges you know that he probably didn’t expect to face you know probably bonor getting a suspension for something silly like that wasn’t one of them but this is one probably was expecting and it’s not nice for the football club to have such injury you know at a crucial moment you know the Christmas period the games come thick and fast and you need to get points there because that probably makes or breaks makes or break your season so it’s going to be interesting I mean in in a good way and a bad way you know he could he could have ear couple of games or we could probably see how crucial Vicario is to this team you know it’s it’s going to it’s going to be scary at moments and it could be good hopefully you know it’s not such an impactful position but like like Garrett says you know he’s he’s a crucial part to the buildup and his his saves that he makes in games sometimes you know it saves us the three points often he makes crazy you know saves which which which save us the game you know often I I know this season it hasn’t happened as much as last season last season I mean without Vicario would’ probably finished much lower than we did but this season the defense and the Midfield has been helping out and we haven’t conceived such dangerous chances like we did last season so we’ll see I mean we’ll take it game by game and and and we’ll see Melvin just quickly on Vicario um or Fraser fer should I say um would you expect Fraser Foster to play all of these games now or will Brandon Austin get his opportunity because Brandon Austin signed a new contract at Tottenham recently he’s 25 years old yet to feature in the Premier League of course he has featured in many of the uh friendlies that we’ve played particularly during uh preseason um will an poog trust Brandon Austin finally uh because a number of managers haven’t um remind me Chris one of the backup goalkeepers in the preseason made a ridiculous save was it Austin Austin yeah he he made a really good save in the preseason and and people started to question why aren’t we giving him a chance so in in moments like this you have you have to take you have to take this opportunity to to try him you try him in the Europa League and save you know Foster for the Premier League I know we play Roma next and you want you want we got 10 games in 30 days literally a game every three days can can can you uh can you expect frasa forer to be playing all of those games in the next 30 days that’s probably at his age you you think not but but you we’ll see I mean postu will probably try to play Brandon Austin he’ll give him one or two games I just think the next game you you’ll give it to Fraser Foster so he gets a bit warmed up for the premier league and then when the Christmas period comes in and and maybe Fraser Foster has a small knock or or slightly there’s a bit of fatigue and needs a rest I think he’ll play Brandon Austin or or perhaps I’ll leave it to the manager I’m sure he’s experienced in this sort of thing but you know the Premier League gives you all types of challenges and this is probably one that he wasn’t really expecting but I’m sure all good managers you know they they try to think of the worst even though you know I’m sure in his mind he did he did think if if Vicario gets an injury I think I’m sure they’ve planned this through and and and hopefully they did say to themselves what if Vicario gets injured what are we going to do yeah and and they’ve discussed this internally and and and have a plan Simone of course we’ve mainly got you on to be talking about Roma later on in the show but before we do that and it must be a perfect fixture for you by the way not only to be covering uh Tottenham hbur v Roma in the Europa League in the Press Box at the tot hbur stadium and of course going into the training session as well um hbur way but of course you’re also a Spurs fan so let’s start by talking about that City game on Saturday evening absolutely fantastic City nil Tottenham albur 4 what again everything Jed everything worked in in the perfect way it was thebly the best the best page the best page of the last two three years for Tottenham because winning for nil is not something that happens every day so H result something incredible everyone everyone in the world was expecting back Guardiola and Man City to to to be back on their winning way to smash Tottenham to smash the ey line of an postu and the things went in the opposite direction so incredible performance uh I absolutely delighted to see James mtis on back at his best and then the rest his history of course thead what a hard work from Tom Solani that you are showing uh of course for me it’s not a player that is is is wor worth 75 Millions he needs he needs to he needs to perform he needs to show but even time because he he put he always put an incredible effort on the on the team so absolutely absolutely incredible so delighted to see the team performing in this way uh but of course you know very well my my feelings my thoughts about an postu uh he needs it’s impossible in modern football in a long run like is the Premier League thir game to be and to perform on top level week in and week out so he needs to start to understand that some sometimes in football you need to you need to win even one nil you need to win the with the dirty side of the game just like Joseph Mourinho used to say Antonio G used to say on their times at the club so it’s impossible to play that kind of football we in and week out so I want to see reaction I want to see motivation I want to see consistency I want to see a SPS side taking the momentum with f with sides like Bou and it’s going to be and it’s going to be easy because we are talking about a side that was capable of winning 4 nil thead but we are talking about the same te that before the international black used to lose a tomb to H Swit to win to one so they need to to find consistent on the on the Run Simone of course it is very frustrating a couple of weeks ago we lost 2-1 at home against Ipswich their first premier league win of the season and then of course you go to the Champions Manchester City a very very tough place to go I might add that the last time they lost there in the Premier League was against brenford two years ago I know um you’ve been extremely um uh you know critical of an poog and Tottenham so far this season how does he get this team uh consistent how can he get them firing consistently first of all the players need to take responsibilities and first of all they need to to find the motivation to play for example lores for example Rome for example Europa League Of course uh playing a thead is not the same of playing fullam at home of playing at Vitality Stadium against ber mode so they need to find motivation then of course he needs to to fix the same the same mistakes the same troubles and not just talking about set pieces I’m talking about the interpretation of the game how you start the game uh I’m talking about the Highline I’m talking about the same mistakes that Wick in and Weck out this team went on doing so it needs to fix this this kind of of stuff uh we are looking at the same mistakes since the start of the season so I hope that 4 nil at the Ard is going to be a turning point of the season so uh if if you fix these kind of things if big has got some plan b or some plan C uh there is there is future in this project if not we’re talking about a manager that is capable of winning for nil at the yet but he the same manager that used to lose that managed in some way to lose a tomb to to to it that drop points in laser the points Newcastle draw points against ralas so at the end of the day the board will look on on on the records on the stats on the points on the position on the table so uh we see in the next couple of months the position that Spurs would be in the in the Premier League car let’s come to you um I’m going to put some pictures on the screen as you’re talking about the Manchester City game and uh feel free to talk us through uh from a tactical point of view of course you are a your wafer licensed football coach um now it must be one of the best performances of the Season without question or doubt um but I go back to that consistency again you know a couple of weeks ago we were all so low you went on social media an progo uh was getting slated heavily the players getting slated heavily you know I don’t think many people would have thought that we would have gone to the ety Hat on Saturday and won 4-0 now I did jokingly say on the podcast after the uh the city game that many people come up to me in the past few weeks saying I think score is going to be 4-0 city um not 4-nil Tottenham you know there were you know a few raised eyebrows to say the least um but it was a fantastic performance Gare wasn’t it absolutely incredible Chris um I was actually thinking about this today work um I’m 27 years of age so I started supporting Tottenham when I was about four I can remember but only really start to get really really interested as you get older so I was say sort of when bbof joined um around that time I would have been getting I remember the lasagna get the season before so maybe even go back to the 05 06 was kind of when I started following the the club I can’t think of a better a definitely a away but arguably our best ever Premier League one and there’s a few reasons I would say that um Man City were on beaten for two full years at home they’re the four times Champions no one’s ever done that before in the Premier League and they go there and won just after Pep Guardiola signs a new contract and won in that fashion I know they’ve been on a bit of a bad run but they were all games away from home I mean it shocked the world of football no matter what anybody says about Man City everyone expected a response from Man City and I think sometimes a wounded animal is dangerous um and Spurs completely after the first time on it’s completely took them apart um you know 11 11 V 11 Spurs were B better in every Department it was no flck result Spurs the score line didn’t flatter them all in the first 10 minutes the 80 minutes after that the scoring didn’t flatter Spurs at all you know I think back to the the game against man united the 6-1 that was during Co You could argue no fans in there makes a big difference um and then I thought about it more I thought then about since and just been here we’d beat Man City away 4-0 we’ve beat man n away 3-0 we’ve beat V away 4-0 so yes has been really bad moments in there and the away forms on a holes not been great but there’s been some unbelievable performances on there you know even under Paro we had some great days and more consistency you’d have to say but we always struggled away at the big grounds under part atino I can’t think of too many I know we beat um Chelsea once um and we ended that Stanford Bridge record um there was a man city one 2-1 I remember Erikson scored funny enough as well like Madison on his birthday but I can’t I we I don’t think we ever wanted anfield under pcho I I remember a 3-0 against man united to be fair but he was there a long time and I just only here now what a season and a third and we’ve had so many big results um and this is after losing hurricane as well um so I mean there’s been some massive massive signs of encouragement and look I know I’ve been criticized at times and I’ve kind of packed the manager a lot and um I’m not going to say I feel Justified or I like that but um you know your eyes don’t lady there there’s been some unbelievable performances on there it’s about turning the turning on the more consistent performances and I think um Simone’s got made some good points there but what I would like to say Simone and all Spurs fans about this plan b or plan C is how many of the top managers have a plan B pep guarda is all about possession football yes you m we Twigs but he’ll rarely change his possession style football uran club no matter what players he had he still played that High Press even when mner fabinho Henderson were were were getting older he still played The High Line he still played the high press vanger for how good mon he was by the end he never changed at the end at the end of every season sorry at the end of every season Guardiola when he he recognizes that it’s time to win one nil to win 21 to win with the dirty side of the game he knows how to do he knows how to to defend H he knows how to play to play a defensive football when it matters postu is only about ideas all about philosophy all about we need to play a certain type of football we need to be us so I’m not sure that it’s gonna work on the long run so I what I would say is though we remember Everton beating Man City for all P’s first season you know so he had to go and get new players they play his way so I think an needs more time I I I don’t think this Spurs team at the moment is ready to win they may be fortunate enough to pick up a trophy if we if we are good on our day you know hopefully that is this season but I don’t think when an Visions this Spurs team winning he believes it’s with this current Squad I think he still Fields he’s maybe two or three short he won’t tell that to the players he won’t tell that to the media but I do think this is very similar and it remains to be SE where it goes the same way we’re not on the same scale as these football clubs but I think we are very very similar to that your Club when he first come in yes he had to go and maybe sold Cino for big money and brought in the likes Allison and Van dke they needed that because they were getting tore up I remember that game at Wembley I think that was the last game really he went with the goalkeeper um he need he went and got Allon in January that 4-1 defeat by Spurs at Wembley and I think it might have been October That season so wh these managers are all brilliant they still have had a go sign world class players they won um so I think an still needs that as well but what I would say is Liverpool won 4-1 in club’s first season at Man City and lost at Watford 3-0 the week after so there’s very similar signs they it does take two or three seasons to get that consistency Liverpool and club’s second season just got into the top four on the last day of the season and then it went from strength to strength I’m not seeing it’ll happen here but I think we have to remember this has not going to happen overnight and we’ve seen glimpses of how good we can be we’ve seen the inconsistent side but there’s been so many positive days in this sort of 15 months I just been here at the best teams we’ve wenta and won 40 we’ve went to Man City and won 40 we’ve went to man won 3-0 really really big away days and I think that’s really really promising if we can turn in results more consistently I think we’re we’re we’re we’re in for a really good right I agree with a lot a lot that you say Gareth and I just want to add to this um polu used the analogy of um of pruning a a tree in in the summer he said we did some pruning and a bit of background to my life I do a bit of farming and when when you prune a tree it often looks a lot worse in the beginning in the first in the first year because the branches are cut off the Deadwood is cut off it it looks it looks a bit you know slim a bit naked until you know the strong branches grow and then just to add a little bit of balance he also said he’s not a gardener yeah but but he did use that analogy he he did say we did some pruning and and it’s exactly how I feel with the squad he trimmed a lot of the the excess weight and now we’re a lot Slimmer it’s a young Squad and and people go back every single podcast I listen to Chris every single one without fail everyone mentions poao you have to ask yourself why yeah why we keep up because and I’ll tell you why and I thought about this a lot because poino had a team which started about eight years before it’s the this rebuild started under Harry redn and if you want to go a bit further you could say Martin Yol started that that way and and if you think of the players he had in the Champions League final some of them started under poino sorry under Harry rnap Kyle Walker and Denny Rose were were bought under Harry redn and if you keep going Fair there there were players like kenice Musa demell and you keep going har we we we got lucky and we had the best player in our life to come out of Our Youth Academy and and and and fall in our lap with hurricane and Christian Ericson was bought before poino inherited players that were already experienced two three four five years in the Premier League and then we added to it and we refined it and that’s what and and we under Jose and con we bought players that didn’t match our footballing identity so we had to start from the beginning we had to take also Melvin also as well you have to remember the standard night is a lot better than when patino was here he doesn’t have pep he doesn’t have klopp when he was here Arsenal’s on the rise again it’s a lot can I just interrupt for one second um Vicario has just posted on Instagram with a message it said I played 60 Minutes at the EAD stadium with a broken ankle giving absolutely everything I had for the team unfortunately there was no way around this one I needed surgery see you soon on Pitch so broken ankle for 60 minutes sorry Melvin yeah no problem no problem um cred to him he played six um that was a massive win for us and and I’m sure you know the pain he to he he got today in the surgery he he will you know he will get he will get through and come stronger um what I was saying before is we had people don’t understand that we keep this team we keep judging this team based on what we had under pochettino and what we keep asking ourselves is we had to we had to do like hard surgery with this football club we had to start over release to release a statement to say listen we it wrong we’re gonna have to start over and and this is literally it was starting off the difference now I feel it won’t take us eight or nine years to get back to the top and we even win under under that time it will take us a lot less to get back to competing again to competing for the league to beIN the to be back in the Champions League I feel that we need a couple of years in Europa League I think we’re starting to see the benefits playing the Europa League papar papar is becoming a really really good player and and he’s one of the most players that benefited from playing in the Europa League so far yes I believe two or three goals and in the beginning of the Season he wasn’t playing well so he was benched but he was used in the Europa League really really effectively and those are the type of games and experiences that he needs to grow and become a really good footballer and we’re starting to see the team mature slowly and Garrett said when we win we win big two three four four goals the team needs to learn to to win ugly when we don’t deserve to win it’s a one nil Newcastle game which we lost we deserve to win my brother keeps texting me now I don’t agree with my brother lot but he keeps texting me and telling me we should be first place I’m telling him you’re crazy what he said the games we’ve lost this season were ridiculous they’re crazy how we lost them it’s because we lost them because we have a bit of a young Squad that’s still learning and still developing in a couple of years time and and um excited about the future with postl I’m fully behind this manager Chris I I know we’ve had people on on on on the podcast who who are Ang J and and I’ve listened to these pods on the plane from Canada and I was in a way I I I see why they are they are reacting this way and I can sympathize because people want success immediately and they don’t want to wait but I’m I’m all in on this project on this project if I had my poker chip they would be all sitting on edge because I believe in him and and and backing him doesn’t mean signing 100 million pound players backing him means giving him two three seasons doesn’t win anything or he finishes fifth I believe and this is the last thing I will say and I believe we can finish six this season made progress as a as a football club we could finish six and still made progress we’re we have Direction we have momentum we have a philosophy and we’re building on it and the Victory against City shows that Cog knows what he’s doing he’s not naive his high line and all of that were just was just get the totam players to to play that that way to have it ingrained in them I believe we play defensive against City but because the philosophy was in the back of their head we still played attacking football and we scored four goals and and all of us are buzzing right now because before we talk about the goals from the city game um Tim Sherwood on Anu said shame on you guys this guy out talking about ANS doubters by the way he said this guy for me is a breath of fresh air and this is exactly what Tottenham need um Melvin um let’s let’s talk about the goals from the city game of course biano leeski what a fantastic cross in um this guy’s been on fire he seems to be different player so far this season incredible uh fantastic assist for James Madison and uh Hit It First Time fantastic finish was it yeah I mean kazes is a quality player he’s always been a quality player he won Young play and and Simone can can confirm at Parma he won young player of the year or something like that and at ju he was played on the right you know he played won the league at U he played with with Ronaldo he has the mentality kvi and he when he speaks and and and um and he does interviews and when you see him on the pitch sometimes he just looks angry all the time even though we’re winning he’s either talking to himself you know when when when you want when you really want to win and when you have that Elite mentality it reminds me of you know LeBron James that type of player he’s a big basketball fan and um it shows a bit on the pitch he has arrogance and and I like I like aspect of kki and I’ve had friends of mine tell me years ago kki is your best player and I didn’t believe them he said in and this guy is a football player by the way and he was telling me Kizi on the pitch he does things where the people around him you know he does the dirty work he’s very strong he’s very he has an engine on him he’s he’s he’s only 23 I believe and it’s insane the the the output that he’s he’s he’s giving us this season um and he’s versatile as well do we even know his best position because he played Wing again and and for me right wing for him was finished I thought now he was a midfielder but he played there and he played excellent and and what what a weapon to have for for po you know I I think city were planning for him to be playing in central Midfield but but he wasn’t he played right wing and and got us the win and really really quality balls really quality crosses from him Sam let’s come to you let’s talk about James Madison’s finishing because that one for the first one of course fantastic ball in from koseski as I said Hing son putting in James Madison for the second but the Finish from James Madison such a clever finish superb finish English blood English number 10 proper Tottenham way this is the Tottenham way Jay mtis Jay mtis is a fantastic player we have been missing him so much we have been missing a play with this characteristics so much so much in in this couple of in this couple of years since chrisan eron left the club so we needed a player like him and uh the performance he put at the Ed was something something incredible something the second goal is is amazing of course after the injury after the Chelsea game last season just like all the sports Squad he suffered so much he lost a little bit of RM a little bit of Peace but this season especially in the last couple of of months we we managed to find him back at his best so I’m I’m absolutely delighted to see him in playing in this kind of LEL Sone I hope you don’t mind me mentioning this but when we signed kesi and Bon Kerr in that January window um you weren’t their biggest fans have they proved you wrong devolution the evolution that actually banur had under Antonio K was something incredible and now we are struggling to see the old banur to be honest because for me it’s not a number it’s not a number six it’s a number eight just like Antonio showed us uh bentur is not the best we are not seeing the best side of bentur in this season uh so I’m expecting a little bit more from from him in in the next couple of months of course when he will be back from the sub suspension uh keski of course you know keski ad played played an incredible game H he played some incredible football at this season but I share with ban the the vision that is not right just like M would say is not a right a right winger anymore is a more number eight car let’s come to you let’s talk about the uh the third and fourth goals um fantastic finish again from Pedro porro uh brilliant goal Chris um K’s feet were magic um getting away um played the ball or plays the ball across for sinki slightly overhook but what I liked about sinki was his composure just they roll back and I think parro is a really really great striker of a football um and he scored some he scored a lot of goals and you know since he came here actually since since an really he’s been he’s been scoring goals anyway has a lot of shots there was a start I think he had the most shots at one stage this season um of any player in the early part of the season so he just like a shot but he does hit the ball well um and it was a it was almost like a striker f it was like an AR on that top Corner made it look easy um but it was really good they see I thought we were very very good on the on the break when it when it happened I mean if you think about the first half Chris I know you asked me this the last time but ended up chatting about our best Premier League one but um know they really Spurs went that High Press it’s funny because when we had the success against Man City in the past under Conte Mourinho Nuno was very much sit off let Man City have the ball and wait for them to make a mistake or won the ball back deep and then spring in the Counterattack whereas on Sunday we went about it so differently we we pushed all our players up on the other half it’s a game we play most coaches would do it’s almost like a transition game where a lot of the coaches want the when they’re on the when they’re on the attacking side they want the game played in their positions half um and they pushed him really really high and I think we seen we seen United yesterday a we bit we H him because he’s only walked in the door they were getting caught out at times by um up switch where some players were pressing some players weren’t but Spurs got the Press absolutely fantastic bar the first few minutes I think there’s one more Davis coming and he got swiveled by um golden and they caught us open and that was a chance at H musty he talk too long and um Davis got back in it and it deflected um for the corner other than that count a too many times where we were really really suspect um and the high press was fantastic that led to the second goal um The High Press where Gario um give the ball away marison W it back and they played the one two we saw and made it 2-0 and the third goal I think melv is right we seemed the in that second half we is right we’re two- n up here let’s not have an our Brighton let’s be a little bit more cautious sit back 10 or 15 yards and wait for the moments and that’s exactly what they did and Chris we were all very annoyed after the breaking game so you want to learn from your mistakes and Spurs managed the game a lot better against Man City on Sat on Saturday and they did against Brighton whereas the Brighton game we come out try to do the same thing and you’re always going to get a response especially away from home when you’re tw0 up and you dominate the opposition you’re always going to get a response especially against good teams like man city like Brighton um you know man city the same thing happened man city Brighton where they were one up at halftime dominated the half Brighton come out in the second half like a different team and beat them two1 so look you’re always going to have that issue away from home if you’re not three or four up at halftime and I think that was a massive learning curve um and judging by the man city game it was something that we when when we found ourselves again two up at halftime away from home we protected it and we waited for the opportunities and we were ruthless when they came all in the K vesy chance I think sanki probably should have played Johnson him but he played keski and he made the chance himself and possibly should have scored but I thought we were excellent in our execution um and I have to say and even for how nervous I was at times I never felt at any stage a 3-0 up were we going to concede I thought we were really secure Man City were were huffing and puffing really there was there was a couple more chances When de bruyne come on and de brua to be fair is an unbelievable footballer and he can see things that our players can’t and then howand had a couple more chances towards the end um but look really really I thought from back day front Chris it was outstanding the every player was at the was probably certain players like I think were even played above what we’re used to seeing I couldn’t think of one player that that underperformed or doesn’t reach their highest level and that is what Simone’s right and Simone’s right about this and I is about plan a plan B plan C I think the problem with anes we he’s going to we have to get better at plan a don’t be thinking about Plan B he expects us to get better plan a but there’s nothing wrong with what um Melvin and Simone say if you’re two up away from home sit back for 10 or 15 minutes let the game uh fuzzle out because the crowd’s always going to be up after halftime um fuzzle it out and then go back on it again and finish it off so really well managed a really good maturing day for the squad and I really hope now this is the way forward and we’ve we’ve had her learn it’s going to be it’s going to be days we’re going to we’re going to lose games of course but there’s a way to lose football matches I don’t want to see any more Brighton where we’re two up and and losing like you know that’s just not acceptable so once is fine learn from it and it doesn’t happen again it would have been interesting Gareth wouldn’t it if we’ have conceded early on in that second half because it is very very fair to say and even pep said it in his postmatch press conference they had a lot of chances but they were very wasteful in that final third now Al Ben writes here um what if City had have scored once and we’ have got punched um we can play great football but my concern is the mentality and fight when uh when down what what I would say Chris as you see two goal leads overturned a lot in the Premier League we focus on it when it’s us but it does happen quite a lot you know they always say two n the next goal is crucial and we’ve seen it a lot of times in the Premier League this year you know there F at the weekend absolutely flying against the struggling wolves One n up cruising wolves get a goal back and go on one at 4-1 it’s all about at this level you’re you’re really going to go through a 90 minute game against an another professional football team in the Premier League and completely dominate them for 90 minutes it rarely happens teams are always going to get 10 or 15 minutes spells especially if they’re playing at home whatever it is about being at home the the crowd reacts to a throw or a challenge and all of a sudden momentum can swing like that because you’re you have to remember you’re you’re playing all world class footballers you don’t get to the Premier League if you’re not a world class not world class but a top class football of course there’s levels they being world class but you know every player in the Premier League is a good player in in some regard um so you’re always going to have moments where games can swing um and that’s something we have to manage better when we are up two nil can we see through a 10 or 15 minute um storm and then get back to playing again um and I think that was a really really good learning curve I mean I think Madison spoke about it really well after the game that has to be the standard from now on we have to and look you’re not going to play the G every week it’s impossible but there’s certain standards our work off the ball was excellent our maturity was excellent our composure the The Bravery to get on the ball and play was Fant I haven’t seen a Spurs team do that away from home at a team like that taking the ball in tight areas and playing and look a few times people were saying to me oh this is a bit risky but that that’s the way they’re trained to play and for the r he tickets about the rewards and the Mount of times we played around in them tight areas and broke and all of a sudden it was 4 V3 so I mean it’s one one find they sit and criticize if you give a goal away but at the end of day a lot of our chances created and a lot of our goals they come from playing them tight areas so it’s what he want you want them to start kicking it along again going back to the old ways of the con and R new days and relying on being great at the back back and you know relying on taking every chance that comes your way that’s not the way forward for me the teams that have won the Premier League over the last few years have all been teams that score goals play in tight areas and um are really good to watch you have to go back the Leicester really for the last or cont suppos to Chelsea and that was what nearly 10 years ago now so the man cities the liverpools of the world have changed how the premier league has won these days and the only way we’re going to get better as a club is by going through these spells and learning how to play Under Pressure I thought the the an decisions Chris they bring Madison in work the treat needed him on that you know if he was going to be at his best play in the tight areas I thought his leadership on the pitch was really really good so have been quite critical of him at times I think that was his best performance all around I think y n he’s podcasted it’s the best he seen Madison off the ball and his leadership qualities and that’s exactly what we’ve been missing so a really good day all around but it can’t be a flash in the pan it has to lead they more consistency now and we’ll back in three or four months time and say that was the day an Spurs went went took five steps forward and not two steps forward and four back the week after so look I’m pretty positive that that’ll be ingrained in the know that if he’s listen if he’s learned to cope with these kind of situations look how good we can be because Chris there’s no other team in the Premier League that are boosting the score lines at Spur are yes there’s teams that are more points but there’s a there’s a you know there’s a real real um consistency when Spurs are at their best teams canot C and it’s good teams it’s West Ham’s it’s vas it’s not I know United are going for a to well but it’s old traford away man city we’re not talking about beating championship teams these are proven Premier League teams I did say that on Saturday actually although I really really enjoyed that win on Saturday it is about staying level-headed now and having that consistency of course we’ve got a tough week coming up rer on Thursday that will come to in just a couple of minutes and then of course the Fulham game at the tot hbur Stadium on Sunday um melbour before we go on to the Roma game um do you want to talk us through the fourth goal because te o Vera outran uh Kyle Walker a fantastic run that will do his confidence the world of good of course he scored uh against Manchester City in the League Cup recently and now assisting Brenan Johnson I’m just showing these pictures here of Tottenham on the Counterattack and what a wonderful run from te oer Crossing it to Brenan Johnson here as you can see at the back post bursting the Box tapping home um another goal for Johnson another assist for Teo Vera another goal for Tottenham three points at the yet had what did you make of the goal Melvin yeah it was literally about seconds before that I was telling my dad there’s no way C are going to score today it’s not their day it’s our day and I told him we’re probably more likely to score again rather than them scoring then Johnson hit the post literally second after I said that and then we actually did score so I was delighted that we scored the fourth you know a massive boost of confidence for Teo which is something that he need because we need him because it’s a really long season and um and Johnson continues his good scoring streak you know already I think I believe on eight eight goals something like that and um you know he’s on track to to touch to touch 20 goals or or 20 goal and assists in in a whole season which is something that a lot of people didn’t think he was capable of um he’s he’s one of our most important players he was dropped Dash rested today because you know the tactic from postu worked and um yeah he’s one of the players are probably start I’ll probably start both of them against Roma you know rest Son Rest kvi you know Roma is not going to be an easy game it’s not going to be a hard game but it’s it’s it’s a it’s a tough European game but you know I’m sure we discuss Roman in in a second but yeah the the fourth goal was was probably something that the fans needed for you know to have a statement win like that we needed something like that for the fans to go home Happy Chris you know you were there at the stadium riging and and all of that the fourth goal just just tops it off and and and um and and the next day all I keep getting is messages from Liverpool fans and and people seeing me on the streets be like what the hell did you guys do and um yeah it was a statement win and and um I’m happy it happened and uh and um it’s something that we’ve been we’ve been told by by Celtic fans Chris that this type of game will happen and I think that was the first one and and I think some people called it our best Victory or something like that but I think I think up till that one it was the Liverpool 21 at home but that one was was a bit um they they said we got lucky because the of the VAR and and the red cards but this one I think was convincing convincingly that one of our best best days sorry Lads you know what made me laugh as well remember when they says an thinks at s Maron or clarck every week we just went to the Champions and spanked them 40 everyone says this man doesn’t know what he’s doing he’s San clarik Ross counties you can’t do that in the Premier League he goes to the Champions hadn’t lost in two years 52 games and Spanx him 40 this is a man that knows what he’s doing absolutely as he about arogant as he about bullish 100% but they all are klopp Guardiola Mourinho they were all arogant managers the best managers were argon so look I have no problem with let’s come on to a preview the Roma game now um of course back in Europa League action on Thursday let’s come to you firstly I wanted to ask you about clao Raneri because of course he started his football career at Roma as a player he is now 73 years old this is going to be third spell as manager he was appointed um just under two weeks ago he managed Roma between 2009 and 2011 again in 2019 and now again in 2024 of course he has been around the block 7 years old as I said knows the Premier League extremely well he knows Europe very very well what do you make of this appointment Simone and what are the Roma fans make of this appointment Roma fans are very happy are very happy Chris because he’s one of them so uh the bir the club freacking group that now decided to invest in Everton football club as well decided to give after they sucked Danel de Roi on on September on the early stages of the season they decided uh to CM the fans to CM the crowd giving them back uh one of them and Claud raner is of course some someone that knows how to to be one of them to to to drive a club like like yes Roma uh it’s a sensational story in terms of the romantical side of the of football because just like you were saying he seted his football career as a a Roma player then he developed his career in c as a manager then he went everywhere everywhere and he won that title with with leer uh in 2020 in 2016 uh last season he said that he was the last the last one as a as a manager he decided to retire as a professional manager then H the the Roma Cole went back and he couldn’t and he simply couldn’t say no of course we know Cloud Raneri you know also in England Cloud Raneri is not an offensive manager he not someone that loves to play attacking football he he loves to sit down to sit back and defend uh to study how to to strike on set pieces so I’m expecting a very offensive Ang side try to kill the game as soon as possible um I’m expecting a Roma side sit back and they are gonna sit back and defend and maybe try to exploit exploit uh sties or situations like that uh of course it’s a very very difficult season tough season for them they are in the in the right side of the of the table so uh it’s gonna be it’s gonna be a game between two sides that played an opposite game of football Simone what’s gone wrong for them in Syria this season because they’re currently 12th in the Syria table um played 13 1 three drawn four lost six and their record in the Europa League so far this season played for one only one drawn two and lost one they’re sitting 20th in the Europa League table that of course there’s 36 teams they got five points what’s gone wrong for them so far is is it just the fact that they haven’t been performing is are their players just not performing uh to the standard that that they used to uh at the start of the season their new sporting director decided to buy players without uh knowing what Danielle Dei that was the manager really wanted so they failed to build aoer team the old era the maninis the chantes the pinis the players of Jose Mourinho uh struggle to find their way to become a proper team a proper new team with the new ones that the new sporting director coming from France the Young G fe uh broke to the to the club then after four games the fking group the owners of the club decided to listen to the CE that was loku the SE of the club and suck Daniel deusi he paid for just like you know in football stuff like that can happen the manager the the the co the head coach pays for everyone and they made a huge mistake huge mistake because they were building a again under Daniel de rosi they hired Ian urish from Torino but it was not at the it was not a level like an important Club in Italy just like yes room deserve and they failed completely so uh it’s another change CLA Raneri cleri clearly means we are we will arrive in in in May in June we will see what’s going to happen it’s it’s going to be a transitional season for them but SP need to respect them a lot in Europe because under Jose Mourinho they did magnific well in the in the last couple of Europe League leagues so uh they won the conference three years ago they arrive in the final in Budapest against cevil Seva two years ago last season they got knocked out only by by Leverkusen in semi-final so they are a team that knows how to play on Thursday they know how to play Europe League they know what they want they will try to score by they will try to sit back try to to win uh more as many corners as they can and be careful because they know how to score on S pieces and I don’t know and I don’t know how many how many teams in England defend worst than toam side Simone Simone can I ask you a question I know you were saying there the Roma fans are are quite happy with the Romantic side of of rer coming back but this is like a veteran manager you know it’s almost like Roy Hardon coming back to Crystal Palace you know it seems like it lacks inspiration you know it’s seems like a know just the appe the fans but you know rer since he left last year really what can of he’s not had much success he’s he’s retired and come back again like if I was a Roma fan I would be worried that this is the direction that they’re going you know if it would be like us bringing back har rnap for a season you know I I just don’t understand that as a club how do they expect to progress with a veteran manager that hasn’t done much in the last few years they are in Brian Mason phase I believe the guy spoke to me today and told me it’s a disaster we’re in a relegation battle he told me because I spoke to him before this podcast to get a feel of of what Roma are like he told me I said which standout players you have he said we have one Italian left Winger and he said one French midfielder he said that’s about it he said the rest from the old Jose regime you know christante and Pelini which you mentioned are good players Inda is a player that we were linked with for a while and went to Roma and fans were disappointed that we didn’t get him but the rest I think we should really be beating them even if we play you know are beating we should really be beating them especially at home I’m just surprised that’s the direction that they’ve gone they’ve gone with an old veteran style manager you know it’s no ambition about that you know romor a big Club you know I just can’t understand they they uh just like Mel was saying they accepted their situation now we are a middle table team we are in a total transitional season so take Taking Back reri provides at least some vals to the crowd to the the people uh is one of them so we see at the end of the season there is a storm we need to be a ship we need to have a sailor that help us to arrive at the end of the season so so the situation is just like that at the end of the season Raneri will be will become a director for Roma and he will help the fing group to find their new manager so it’s a total transitional season towards the end s Roma project we start from June we start from July Simone was it true that they nearly resigned the rosi after sacking him they were in to bring him back was that true no no it’s not true it’s not true because they I’m surprised that the rosi because when I remember when he come in after Mourinho he had a great start I thought they were going the right direction they were starting to play about a good foot under REO they had a suffer with the same type of football that we had and there was a it was a k it was a circus off the pitch he was getting sent off every second or third game and they rosi come in and they started to play good football and they were good to watch and obviously the director and H had fallen out and I know that the start of the Season wasn’t great but I’m very surprised that they pulled the plug so because it looked like at the very start of the D rosi reain that they were they were going in the right direction and I think Roma are very similar to yourselves that theyve had so many near near near misses they haven’t got over the line um I know they won the Europa conference league but other than that they they haven’t won so a lot of trophies in the last sort of 30 years so I was surprised that they didn’t give D rosi more time yeah yeah there is some truths on Danelle D Roi because what they got to know is that Daniel de rosi for all the summer um was having uh a sort of discussion week in Weck out day in day out with the co with a director of the club that was Lena soloku from Greece uh and the frin group decided to trust to believe in what Lena was saying so they s thei after four weeks four uh four games and after what happened the crowd decided to attack the CEO and the resigned so F King Group after after this kind of situation lost the manager lost the co lost the directors so something incredible really happened to Rome so I think that they decided after this kind of situation let’s go back Cloud reri to help to to gain back some serenity it’s it sounds like a club that’s in an absolute mess and we could I know we’re playing a big name in Roma but I but they just seem in such a mess and I caught glimpses of their game against Napoli at the weekend Chris and to be honest I mean they’re they’re a big Club Going they’re a bit like man of the Premier League the they’re a big name but they’re going in the wrong direction so I think whst that looks on paper they’re the most glamorous game in the in the eight games I think this is a game that we really should be winning yes they scored 14 goals in 13 games we scored 27 goals in 12 so chy that I mean we could really we could really Pummel this team if we turn up Simone could you give us um a bit of a description of how Roma’s season have gone um result wise in Ser because in the Europa League as I mentioned they’ve played for 1-1 drawn two lost one uh a one-1 draw against Athletic Club um a one- nil defeat against El B uh Dynamo Kev they beat 1 nil and then Royale Union they drew 1-1 what what have they been like in the Europa League performance- wise well in the league in the league they were uh sometimes abisal absolutely aysal under Ian yurich a soft of boring defensive football but it was not working it was just defensive football but a losing football a losing type of football uh because uh the players didn’t trust him manager uh after two months uh the FR King group decided to get rid also of even yich so they were hard to watch tough to watch and the re and the table clearly reflect the the situation a very b side at the end of an ER because this is the end of the Mourinho and the rier it’s gonna be a transitional season Paulo dybala will leave the club at the end of the season so uh it’s it’s a very very hard moment hard moment for them but of course maybe Under The Lights of the lane in London Tottenham OS Stadium an important occasion for them a big occasion they know they’ve got experience in Europe it’s a game that Tottenham must not underestimate because they know how to how to read this kind of games how to read this kind of situations so in the league I’m not expecting them to finish in top six or top seven I’m expecting them to finish middle t as a middle table team in Europe we don’t know we don’t know we don’t know I think that they we fail to finish into the top eight I I will think that they will qualify for the playoff for the last 16 so they will they will play in in February Chris wasn’t um or see the wasn’t the two contenders for the job quickly sorry Chris I think they were narrow Downy Frank Lampard and clar rer and that tells you that they you couldn’t have two opposites there is a there is some truth on it Garett because the freaking group nowadays own Everton football club and Everton football club remind us of the of Frankie Lampard uh so same some agents actually uh send the name of Frankie Lampard towards towards the franking group but they decided to go to an Italian name an Italian an Italian old man that knows quite well this area knows to handle this kind of situation uh Roma nowadays needed someone that’s knew the situation not another experiment another name another strange soltions and especially because uh in Spanish and Italian football the English name uh never went good you know you remember Gary n in Valencia for example many many years ago it was a total disaster so uh English managers in uh in Italian football never worked Simone um who would be the standout players for Roma who should we look out for and one question uh that I wanted to ask as well is that the opposition match previews whenever I do them whenever we play um a team in the Europa League this season all four opposition previews um the people that have come on they’ve been very surprised by my question of will you go strong because they’ve all come back and said this is European football we take this very very seriously are Roma going to take that same view especially as Ranier is new uh to the club this season now it’s his third spell but of course he’s going to want to uh win in Europe he’s going to want to do extremely well um at the football club so will they put out their strongest possible 11 do you think yes definitely definitely they are trying to to find out they are trying to understand if Pao dybala dybala can play or no uh they will in in Napoli in nles he played just four or five minutes nothing more but I think that even if if even if he’s not gonna start the game he will play an important part in the second part of the game mainly if the game itself is gonna be uh open uh if Tottenham will manage to kill the game and the first half then it’s going to be a completely different different game I will I will pay ATT mention to Aram doic that is the Ukrainian Striker that went went from Jona the revelation of last La Liga it was the P the the player that scored so many goals in the last season of La Liga so I will pay attention I will pay attention to the striker because he a very very interesting player he’s strong he’s strong physically he’s tall he knows how to to to play the English side of the game so Second bows it’s strong in terms of the harder so he I would pay attention to the to the striker Aram doik Simone lastly about this game um are the Roma fans looking forward to it do they think they’re going to come to the Tottenham hbur stadium and get a good result yeah yeah yeah definitely they they are uh I was checking to the prices of the the flights Chris from Rome uh they are absolutely AB absolutely crazy because many many romance F romance fans will uh will be in London I’m expecting an away end full of energy full of of passion and they they will they will U support their team as as they always do G let’s come to you on Roma um do you watch syrii air much have you seen much of Roma this season if so what have you made of them I’ll be honest you right I watched more of Roma when Mourinho was there not so much for the just for the side Sho um I haven’t had the pleasure of watching Melvin’s favorite manager too much this year Antonio Conte but um I I did tune in last night for this but of the second half I was watching that United game so when that was over I tuned in for the end uh wasn’t particularly I remember watching the an Milan in the Napoli game the week before and I couldn’t believe it was a two top teams two top teams play each um it was just so boring but Sima tell you I don’t think the ball moves as quick and the game is as quick in the Sia as it is in England but look um we can’t be under we can’t can’t be under what’s that the SI play different football than the Premier League it’s not to be honest I do like watching I like watching Atlanta I like it watching them when they play because they actually they’re a they’re a bit more better on the eye they press and they’re very very good and I watched them in the eura League last year a lot but I tuned in they watch a we bit of it um I agree with Simone I think do dock i’ seen him at the euro as well and he had a brilliant season last year I think for Juna was it topic yes yes J he’s a handful um and he and he’s big and powerful and you know he he’ll love the the physical battle and I think set pieces is going to be their best route they go um but I just can’t see that they seem in such a mess the only thing I would agree with Chris is um the 100% they’ll play their first 11 because we just beat Man City four I’m telling you that we’re a big scalp at the moment that that would have sent shock waves around Europe that result you know anybody that that that that has interest in football would have heard about this so we’ve Now set the standard Roma’s going to be thinking and reneer once to put himself back on the map you know he’s been wied out of his retirement home they come back in and he second games against uh Spurs away this is a big game for him a big game for Roma that we looking at Spurs as a big scalp and if if they needed the any incentive to up their game it’ll be for this game because of what we just did the man city so but how much you can up your game based on the mess you’re run around you and the lack of confidence the form um they were really really really poor against Napoli as well um I just can’t see any or com in a Spurs won we haven’t played our best football in the eura league compared to the Premier League but um I do expect us they won this game um but I do think we smon says do you think Roma will break up the game they’ll they’ll make it difficult they’ll try and rattle Spurs I like with Chrystal pal um a few weeks ago when they they getting the ball I think was there seven minutes out at the end of the first half and seven at the end of second half a lot of time wasting and stuff so if we can get an early goal it’ll it’ll change the landscape of the game um and if we get that early goal I think we’ll W quite comfortly but look zis Roma um I think it’s um they’ve got 13 points from 13 games in the in the in the Sia 14 goals scored in the 13 game so they only average really won a game um so they aren’t luted with goals um and if we’re looking at our numbers thinking the Spurs team have spank teams for this year a fair few times they’ll be thinking that this is a game they really really have to be hon it and really really tight at the back and I do expect them they they let us have the ball probably not press as high very much in a deep block would have switched up and and wait for the moments because you know Spurs will be vulnerable from set pieces um they’ll be vulnerable to the all Counterattack the Bala if he’s fought is a very special player on his day El’s been about the do they can get crosses on the hum he’s good in the air um and as well as dragon and Davis done against Man City that doesn’t mean the way forward and they’ll be as great in this game you know everybody can have a game where it goes everything goes right so it’ll be a big test dragon’s not been that convincing in EUR in Europe for me um I think Ben Davis day credit’s been absolutely excellent when he’s been called upon this season um I know we’re going to go through the teams we we think will play in the team that D will go with um but I I would I would I would just be very very mindful of underestimating because I think we underestimated as Ogar we didn’t we know we weren’t great against them um we weren’t great in buest I don’t think Chris I know the pitch and the the conditions didn’t help but of yet they really see his Flex their muscles in this eura league yet and wh I’m not too wh I’m not too worried about it because I think we’re going to get through it would be nice they put a statement out there in Europe against a big club like Roma and say well look that’s the level now um you know because I haven’t seen anybody in Europe yet uh um I know L was doing quite well but I’d love to see somebody go out and really really take a Str angle and go look that’s the team they beat Spurs are the team they beat um latu with the team that’s won their four games um as a say there but look very much we can we can um we I want to stti finish as high as possible in this uh in this league phase because it means and you’re supposed to get an easier route um with a new tennis State format um but honestly Chris on our day I think we beat any of these clubs and that’s not me being bigheaded or cocky or organt if you can beat Man City 4-0 V 4-0 uh man united 3-0 you can beat anybody um so and I think the fact that Knockouts is two legs Chris will give us a huge Advantage I think over two games I think we’re capable of throwing a stinker in know in one of those games but I think we’re equally as good as a blowing teams away in the other one so I think we’re going to be strong contenders on this uh Europa League Chris and I do expect this to be um towards the end of season still on it and competing so um I would like to see I think this is in a grp chat today Chris that whilst um I’ve not been too bored about the games and I’ve I think the last time I was on here I was um we were chatting about ASA rore and I was more worried about Crystal Palace I think tomorrow night is a big game or sorry Thursday night’s a big game because we’ve lost that last game if we were to go and lose this one we starting to look over our shoulder bit um so I think and the way Rangers are going at the mon Chris I can see when we play Rangers we’re going to be playing a Rangers team with a new manager and they’re one of those clubs over the last few years when they sacked the manager they get an automatic points and the Rangers manager Hanging On by a thread I’m not sure he’ll make it for two weeks time so the last thing you want go to Rangers I broos absolutely packed T and you’ve just lost your last two games so I think this is a a really important game get the job done um and then the Rangers game not play well it’ll still be a really really incredible atmosphere the Scottish teams absolutely love playing the English teams um so that will be that will be an important game as well they’re all big games they’re all big games um Melvin let’s come to you I know you watch Sia a lot um what have you made of Roma this season they’re struggling I mean good really good friends of mine are Roma fans and I speak to them and they tell me how they feel and you know they’re not happy they’re not happy they when they had Jose there and they were constantly there in in Europe attacking and they’re in the conversation for for for Champions League I mean Roma are a big name but in Italy they they don’t win trophies a guy told me recently he said he said we’re we’re we’re in the same boat we’re always there and in the conversation but we never get it over the line and and until Jose went to the club and then they won the trophy and and and and um they were buzzing they see him as an idol there they loved him they were they were really really sad when he left and um and they haven’t been the same team since I mean they’ve lost key key players in in that regime I mean they had a really solid defense and and they’ve lost um they still have a really good Midfield who who do frighten me it depends who we play you know christante Pelini and the and the French lad in the middle three are very very strong very powerful Midfield I feel we can’t play an Archie gray we can’t play a bvar or they’re going to get bullied a little bit they’re going to they’re going to get physically dominated I mean that’s why they were so strong in Europe they’re a very physical team Roma especially under Jose they were very physical and they relied on on the quality of dybala and you know they they had Tammy Abraham who’s a big Miss for them and um it’s GNA be it’s it’s G to be an interesting game depending on the lineup like Garrett said if we play our best 11 you know we can beat anyone but I just feel toogo has to rest a few players I mean Ben Davis I I know we’ll get into the lineup in a few minutes but I think you know dragin will love playing an Italian team again I’ve been really impressed with dragin and happy with with him and um I’m a massive fan of his I just think his physicality in games like this is really really an asset for us because he you know he throws his body in he puts he puts it on the line every single time and it’s going to be a physical game and I just think it’s we’re going to find it hard to create because they’re going to try to be really physical with us and take it you know man for man and um and make us and make us suffer in in that aspect I don’t think they’re going to come to try to play football I think they’re gonna still try to play like they play on their Mourinho they’re gonna you know try to win set pieces Corners you know and and and they’re not going to come to us and try to play you know you know football the Italians they slow the game down they call it tactical you know I I before I dated my girlfriend you know fiance now I hated Italian football I used to call it boring I used to call it you know anti football and and in the last six years this is what love does to you I’ve been watching you know ser and um it’s a and and and we’ve bought players from this area so so I’ve grown to respect it and and enjoy it and and and I like their managers I like their players and it just shows that you know sometimes there’s a bit of um there’s a bit of like stigma and prag pragmatism and we think the Premier League is above all leagues and it’s the best football the best players and really really really the truth is that Italian clubs are just as good you know they can beat they can beat the English the the English teams I remember you know teams in in Aston Villa and Brighton when Brighton were in the Europa League they struggled they couldn’t they couldn’t win win their games you know they couldn’t beat these teams Italian teams are really good they they find a way to win but sometimes the match is boring and I just feel it’s going to be a boring game it’s going to be a one- nil or 1-1 and they’re going to come and try to suffocate spares and and try to win the game physically rather than on the pitch that’s that’s how I feel Roma’s gonna attack us well I’m glad people have bought their tickets already yeah Simone let’s come to you um just want to get all of your thoughts on Tottenham in the Europa League so far this campaign of course played Four one3 lost one most recently Los gasar 32 it’s fair to say galatas an absolute outall before Spurs very very nearly nicked a draw in Istanbul uh what an atmosphere that was by the way um and then what we’ll do is we’ll finish with predicted lineup but Simone let’s start with you on Tottenham in the Europa League this season what have you made of them uh finally uh they seems to to take seriously the the competition uh the pictures to be honest were quite easy at the because okay L away as said as at home they were not complicated games when they went to Istanbul in that atmosphere it was a St it was absolutely atile they’ got huge players Victor man destroyed Tottenham destroyed the post ey line um nine points out of 12 I think that it’s a fair it’s a fair um amount of of of of points so um which I think that they’ve got SPS have got everything everything to to finish into the top eight of the big of the big table so it was a as well a huge opportunity to see the youngsters I was quite place not just on Lucas beral but mainly of course as everyone of with Mickey Mikey Mo what a player um I’m a little bit sad that he got injured in some some weeks ago a couple of weeks ago because it was it was absolutely brilliant and he was gaining more game more more game time in Europe League so uh I think that it was the perfect the perfect competition the perfect moment the perfect platform for him to develop his skills with the with with the with the senior team so I’m quite I’m quite happy to see how Spurs developed the start of their European campaign Sone what do you make of the new format and would you think that Tottenham are one of the favorites for the competition I think I I love to be honest the new the new fabula because you know uh to be hon was one that loves the Dre Inon of the old uh group phes but I think that in this way you you will play more or less the same the same level and you will find uh you will fight against everyone to finish into top eight in the next round of 16 so I think that it’s gonna be it’s gonna be interesting it’s gonna be good and sports by the the tech the technical side of the game by the technical side of the game are one of the favorites of the competition I think that uh one one thing is to being considered as one of the favorites one another thing is to arrive to playing quarterfinals to play semifinals to not have injury to to play from the start the game in a serious way Europe League is not the conference League Europe League is a very very hard competition when you arrive at the end because you will play Maybe Spanish football Spanish cups that loves to play the competition Italian football loves to play the competition so uh it’s not easy it’s not easy and it will never be easy alao one of the favorites the moment would you say yeah yeah because they they rebuilt the team in a perfect way huge credit to their manager Marco Baroni they play incredible football they are strong also in the physical side of their game so Lazio will play a huge part of the competition K let’s come to you what have you made of Spurs so far in the Europa League Of course beating carbag 3-0 Fen spars 2-1 uh that wasn’t an easy game as you mentioned earlier azed at the to HB Stadium 1- nil and most recently losing 3-2 against Galatasaray it’s fair to say an pooku has made a number of changes uh as soon as we get your thoughts and Melvin’s thoughts on Spurs in the Europa League this season we’ll go to the predicted lineups Chris it’s it’s it’s been a lot of changes and you’re always going to have disrupted Rhythm when you’re making so many changes he give a lot of the young kids um game time and it’s great experiences for them you know I say this you’re damned if you do and you’re damned if you don’t rate um look at the injuries we’ve had and we’ve been rting anyway so um if we hadn’t been rting how many more injuries would we have had and I think the way an’s teams play always at risk of injuries the strains the um muscle injures because of the high press the Sprints so I do think he has to rotate and if you’re looking at it now although this rumor game is important is it more important than the Bournemouth game next week is it more important than um follow at the weekend and Chelsea the week after that’s up for every fan to bit because we have got um Bournemouth and a midweek in midweek action um next week um so we’ve got three Premier League games where I’m sure Angel want to go strong in all three games so you’re thinking there to be a game in there that is going to heavily rout it and the fact that we’ve won three out of four I do think it’s more important because we’ve lost the last game we need to go a bit stronger in this game but I have a feeling with a viio injury as well at the weekend and the fact that we had that big one on Sunday he’s going to r a bit more than maybe that he he would like do or should do because I can imagine we’re going to go very strong against fham strong against Bournemouth strong against Chelsea and then possibly rotate against Rangers again um and then we’ve got Southampton and then we got United and Liverpool so it’s it’s it’s you think about them two the two the the four there’s four M week games between now and Christmas and you’d imagine that the league game against Bournemouth and The League Cup game quarterfinal against United will be considered a bigger priority at the moment um because of Premier League your BR B and the fact that we’re in the quarterfinal League Cup and we’re at home against a team that we we had a great record against since I has come here against B unit so I’m I’m assuming he’s going to hit in this one because I’m looking at the other games I’m thinking where is he going to R hit so because you know and it’s a nice problem to have would we rather have a free week um in between Southampton and Liverpool of course we wouldn’t we want to be in the League Cup we only to wion The League Cup so the consequence of being in these competitions is you have you do have more games so I I do think we’re going to rotate more I agree with Melvin says about physicality I really want to see s in there and basuma in there against r I don’t I don’t think this is a game for berville but I’ve got a feeling that bergville will play Melvin what of you might have sposed in the Europa League this season so far yeah it’s been interesting I mean the lineups are often interesting that’s probably the most thing I look forward to you know to see to see who he picks and um more importantly like who he’s resting who who from the young young kids he’s picking you know Archie Gray’s been you know probably the first person I pick you know he I know he’s playing him at at right back but he’s the one I look forward to the most even um you know drag is in um and Ben Davis SAR these these players have been playing consistently in the in the Europa League bonor has a B in the Premier League so probably one of the first people on on the list as well you know he needs to play minutes keep him fresh um bgv’s been you know up and down he’s he’s still a young lad he’s full of potential and um you know these games will do him a world of good um I don’t know if Mikey Moore is going to be fit and and and if he’s going to be on the bench or not um I’d like to see him involved in some way just playing at home you know to Roma will be you know physical team I think Teemo will start I think Johnson will start it’s going to be a massive question mark to um to see if he’s going to start langier or or salanki you know I’ve I’ve been happy with with our Eur performance I’ve missed the um one of the games cuz I was flying to to Toronto at the time you know when we lost and um when L you scored you know you were there in turkey and I was getting updates on the on the WhatsApp from you guys and letting me know how we were playing you know um the score you know flattered Us in the end I still haven’t even seen the game I saw the goals but I never actually got to see the games I think it was one of one of the few games within 15 years that I’ve missed I I’ve nevered missed the game and and weirdly enough it was I had a flight book that day and I couldn’t I couldn’t I couldn’t see it on the plane um what game that the the I can’t even say it Gat salaray I don’t know how to say the name the one the one must 15 years ago no oh I don’t know I think it was I think the only game I remember I remember missing was a League Cup game against Everton and it was one nil at White heart Lane and my dad messaged me and he said one nil and that’s it didn’t even tell me who scored I thought you gonna say it was one of nuno’s games no no I I’ll never miss a spars game but but yeah after after this G Gareth I’ll I’ll look it up and and I’ll let you know which game it was and um but yeah I’ve been I’ve been happy with us in the Europa League I think it’s like Simona said it’s it’s not like the conference League I think the quality is much much higher than than spars fans think and um and I know a lot of us think you know we’re favorites for the competition but I think with the injuries we have and with us playing these amount of games and I think our chances of winning this competition go down and down and down I think need a massive Squad to compete and even in the latter stages the quality gets finer and finer and and and and I just don’t see polu you know I I’m gonna say this in in because let’s say we had Jose as as manager he would at some point say that’s sit with the Premier League I’m going to put all the eggs in the Europa League and I be sack he would be sacked before the final because the form will be for about two minutes can you mute him for about two minutes yeah so I don’t see postu ever ever saying the Premier League is now not the priority anymore it’s it’s the Europa League I don’t see him doing that and let’s say we’re in the quarterfinal and we’re playing I don’t know Lazio and and we have a Premier League game and it’s this and we have a one-nil lead and and we’re going into the second leg I don’t see him resting you know resting players so and Jose would Jose would rest all his players and say I’m GNA win the Europa League and then I don’t see pooku doing that and I and I think with the with the squad we have we’re not capable of competing you know in Premier League and and and and going that far in the season that’s what we already have injuries now and and I just don’t see get in in in the end I think we’ll fall fall short and I think it’ll be an experience for the team and even if we have Europa League again next season it will be it will be a good experience so I want to go as far as we can and even in the league cup I mentioned I want to get as far as we can in the League Cup because I I think that’s a comp competition I think man united is a favorable draw we’re playing at home I think the crowd will be buzzing I’m buzzing for Roma as well so there’s there’s a lot of games to be excited for and and I’m definitely looking for forward to this game me when I think it is fair to say when you said earlier that a lot of people mention Marcio portino you do mentioned Jose marinho on these podcasts a lot yeah because he’s he is I think I think we missed a trick with joose I think he came to the club at at Pro probably the worst time in our history I think we had a declining Squad and I just think we needed I even think and and and I say this in the in the in the chat I’m consistent with this I think even Antonio Conte was was an elite manager I just think we’ve improved our Squad so much and even if they had if those two managers had our Squad today I think I think we would look at them in in a different manner I think the Defenders we had under con were were Dreadful I think we got away with it because we had two elite players with with hurri Kane and and son I mean have you ever seen a manager that that you know that got that out of Harry Harry won the Golden Boot and the the assist trophy in a season where we were really terrible and Jose sorry sorry and Jose Mourinho got that out of Harry Kane Harry Kane that’s that’s iconic for me no other manager has Holland can’t do that but Jose got that out of hurry and and just quickly because I understand what you’re saying right but the problem with the the squad now is Mourinho and K don’t work with those young players they they would want experienced players I can’t imagine that they would work with this squad yeah no that’s what I mean but but I I I agree a lot of what you say actually Melvin uh about Jose Mourinho and uh how many times have I said on this podcast about I wish he had the opportunity to manage Us in that League Cup final you never ever know what have happened and I agree with you also R Jose went to R and won them won them a trophy and they L him there you should have seen the scenes that they did in Roma how they celebrated when they won a trophy they went absolutely they will build they also they also embarrassed the club in the Europa League final but against s Let’s uh let’s go on let’s go on to the final question Simone let’s start with you um predicted lineup the lineup that you believe that an c will put out to face Roma on Thursday evening and why okay first in goal Pedro por on the right AR gray on the left drosin and then Davis once again the CLE of center backs uh Rodrigo vur will clearly uh take back the spot as a number six I’m expecting Dean keski to rest a little bit so I’m expecting to play in Midfield SAR on the center right and James Madison once again on the center left as a number eight uh in front I we think son will rest a little bit so Timo wner even because he he went in very very well against Man City provided the platform to to BR Johnson to score the F at the haot so um Tim on the left I’m expecting Brandon Johnson to start being back on the starting line because he was rest I at the at least at the start of the game against Man City at the Ard so Brandon Johnson Timo wner and nor Charon so I don’t think will Lan will play Ro I think he will start with with solak because Rome playing Rome guys is not playing with theet with all the respect the r site so you talk about Dean kesesi there you’re expecting him to uh be on the sub bench or not included at all it’s interesting because in the Europa League this season um he’s played in all four games but he has not started any of them is this a game in your opinion where he does actually need to start in the Europa League given his form well he could start given his form he should start but of course he cannot play week in and week out every game every game every game so I think that maybe he he deserves a a short rest maybe maybe to because he showed that he can have an he can also have an impact coming from the B of course he knows Roma he knows Italian football he knows what kind of which kind of players he he should face on Tuesday but I think that maybe he could he could rest so we’ll see if an will pick him also for the Roma game or maybe he will start him against F so what’s your score prediction 3-1 for boots lovely g has come to you this is your predicted lineup um this is the team that you would like and poao to put out Vicario uh of course that’s not going to happen so it be forer Gray drusian Davis UD DOI uh basuma SAR bergal Johnson sanki and Teo verer and this is the lineup that you believe that an postao will put out forer poro drusin Davis gray basuma bergal Madison Johnson sanki and teimo Vera interestingly no hman son in both of these lineups I definitely think son will be rested Chris if actually I’m gonna hold my hands up I’ve made a mistake here I’ve totally forgot about boner because I just the band thing was on my head but I would obviously boner is going to come in and play so um I would play basar and benter I would actually agree with uh Simone and maybe give benter a bit more of an advanced role um and then we would be very physical in that Midfield um I would rest Madison um bergville I think at the the time I say do would play him um but I actually I thought about it more and I think Roma quite physical um I would leave him out um so I’ve made a couple of changes to me te already here um but um I definitely think penter comes in but I would like to see basuma and Sar play just for that physical I don’t want to lose that Midfield battle um and then you can always bring Madison and Co V on if you need a bit more creativity um depender on that advanced role um alongside are I think would be a good would be a good way to go um I think bener would enjoy it more as well not having that more defensive responsibility for Puma was outstanding at the weekend I mean if puma and bener are at their best I think Spurs are at their best because they they they can screen that defense well I think benter in some games the game of Old Trafford I thought he was outstanding our games he hasn’t been so good but I do agree with Simone I do think he’s been asked to play a position he’s not familiar with um so you have to cut him some slack um but um I don’t I’m not a fan Chris of fullbacks on the opposite side that’s why I would go with gray on the right and give porro a rest um I think we really need to go into the market in January and bring in an our left back because I really don’t like this gray on the left side I really don’t um I just think it’s uncomfortable for players being after to playing that role because they’re always coming back in the way inside where the danger is instead of being on the outside so I would really prefer to see him um we need to go on the market get a left back um and we I think we need to send two players in the J one though um I really do cuz I agree with Melvin um I know we don’t agree a lot all the time but I’m not sure we have the squad to keep everything going all front especially if we get to the final in the league cup or we have a good run in the FA Cup you’ve got Europa League and and the Premier League I do think we need to strengthen um but that would be my team Chris um the front three I think picks itself Johnson comes in song gets arrest give verer a goal and sinki for me because L suspended and uh um he’s got a play do you know do you know say is interesting that no one’s mentioned actually GTH the fact that uh Jed Spence everyone wanted him in the Europa League Squad but of course an bogu chose to go with frasa fer instead so that actually seemed like a good decision now doesn’t it well that’s that that um everyone was but then again Spence could have played at left back well I could have done but I I don’t like him playing at left back as this is but no named four goalkeepers in the squad so all of a sudden if he didn’t name the goalkeepers you’d be relying on Forester stand foot now if Forester was a g we’d have no goalkeeper to put in the team yeah so I think I think an believes he’s got players that can play at fullback in an emergency you have no emergency goalkeeper you can’t ask answer yeah Melvin let’s come to you let’s come to your team um this is the team that you would like to see and putting out VI well Vicario is not going to happen so be afraid forer poro drain Davis gray bergal Benton Kerr Madison Teo verer Lanier Johnson predicted lineup forer poro drusin Davis gray bergal bener Madison teimo Vera salanki and Johnson do you want to talk us through this yeah um and um I put ler on I wanted to see ler but now you’re talking I forgot about the red card because I missed that game um I think the front line you know Johnson Wess Salan you have to go strong you have to respect Roma you have to um even though they’re struggling a bit I think you still have to have to have a strong line to score in the Europa League um the Midfield Benton core is going to start every single game now you know in in the Europa League um bergville I think needs minutes and um I would I would play him you know playing at home you have to you have to play that you have to play him and if we need to improve in in the midfield if you need strength if you need creativity you can always bring in keski medicine I I chose him because I think I think um I don’t know I think him and SAR could both do a job I think sar’s been playing well in the Europa League and now that that G’s done some substitutions I might change M toar instead of medicine and in rest medicine but I think equally he’s he’s just as capable of playing there and um even though R are quite physical so far would be probably the smart option from the two I’ll be surprised to be honest if he plays basuma I just think since since Benton cor is suspended I just think basuma is gonna be played in the Premier League and and boncore played in the Europa League and and and he’ll he’ll just you know rest one and play the other week in week out and and one can have a full a full week’s rest and and a solid solid sub every single time so um I don’t think gonna played Melvin Melvin as there a rat in your house there’s I think there’s an animal making a little noise there it’s not me no it’s not me Garrett get your pipes get your pipes checked there’s a rat on your house somewhere you can hear it in the background there it’s not me it’s s Simone thank you so much for joining us this evening pleasure to have you here um tell everyone where they can find you on media and you got a very busy few days coming up because of course you’re going to go and see the opening train session at the uh hotb way then you g to go to Andre’s press conference ranieri’s press conference and then of course be in the Press Box at the totam MB Stadium Thursday and tomorrow I’m going to be in Slovakia for the Milan game so uh M girlfriend will be will be very very happy so I will I will fly from Slovakia to to London in the next couple of days so it’s going to be it’s going to be very thank you guys it’s always a pleasure you can follow me on Instagram Simone do2 and of course you can write me whenever you wish going to the airport after this you look like you’re going straight to the airport after this yeah so so many things to do guys to organize the joury Sone I look forward to seeing you in London I’ll tell you what just wrap up warm it’s very cold here at the moment wow wow okay okay I’m preparing psychologically myself mentally myself great to have you here thank you so much and G where can people find you uh Chris thanks very much for having me um always good to come on the podcast and talk about Spurs um great work as always I’m really enjoying the podcast this season um and always good crack with the boys and you always seem to bring on somebody that’s going to try and rattle me as well so that’s good it was box office and it was Melvin I don’t know who’s going to be next but um com Chris pop up maybe juy will pop up one of these streams I’ll have a go hum as well but uh on the same page box office G actually G before before you go who’ you prefer box office or Melvin or is a bit close um I don’t know they’re they’re they’re both very different in different ways um box office is uh I think box office is probably um he probably probably is a we bit um a we bit harder um Melvin to be fair it’s more B me and Melvin to be fair I know way they disagree but it’s friendly B I think we box office me and him would it would be more um if he was on more often I think me and him would be probably not be able to speak to each other whereas Melvin and me and Melvin it’s it’s light-hearted so um I just knew he would have something to say about Jos he’s still talking about the Jos ghost um but look I hope I really hope I really hope we meet F aache on this in this year and um next year we make Con in the Champions League because um I think we’re in a far better position where we an than we are we lose to but look that’s up for the bit everyone’s got their opinion but you can find me on aars hot Spurs Chris and you can also usually find me on here as well I mean next Premier League game is the Chelsea game and Chris have you say thanks to your uh podcast when I go into the bricklayers or the Gil the gilp and Bell before the game everybody know he going there’s Aries fell was on Chris’s podcast so I get a good welcome so uh thanks for that opportunity and I’ll probably see at the Chelsea game or on here before the Chelsea game great thank you g thank you so much for your time and Melvin where can people find you yeah you can find me on on Twitter and um and Instagram if you want to follow me there um yeah I’ve uh I’ve had similar experiences with Gareth when when I was in Toronto I got recognized for the first time and um I was watching the switch game at at the Scotland Yard and um funnily enough um I was sitting on the exact table that Brian D dagel used to sit on and he was in England and I took his his spot there because he’s from Toronto and he recommended I would go there and there were a table of guys who recognized me you know bought me a drink and and in Toronto because of the time difference the games are really really early so we’re drinking at 9:00 A.M 10: a.m. so it was a strange strange match day but I I I loved it and and love talking to those guys and and shout out to the to the Toronto spars guys and and and thanks for the drinks and thanks for for saying hello and and and you know thanks for Chris and because it’s a strange feeling being recognized through a podcast and um and the guy was insured in the beginning that if it was me and then and then you know he heard me speak and and then recognized me immediately probably because um and yeah and then me and Gareth a bit of insight we just we just choke around with on on the WhatsApp you know between us bantering with with Jose and Conte we have mixed opinions but it’s all it’s all good laugh and uh yeah but to be put on the on the same bracket as as Alex who’s who’s a funny character I think I I think his opinions are quite funny at times but I I think me and Gareth are more on the same page when it comes to to spar and and and and this current manager Melvin what’s your score prediction for the Roma game I think will be one nil spars G um I’m going to agree with Simone 3-1 Spurs 3-1 I’m want to go for 21 Spurs um Simone Gareth Melvin thank you so much for your time this evening you’ve been great as usual look forward to having you all on again very soon Simone I look forward to seeing you in London uh on Thursday for the game and thanks for watching everyone thanks for listening I hope you’ve enjoyed this podcast thank you so much for all of your incredible support as always we’ll see you on the next one come on you Spurs [Music] [Music] [Music] he 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