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The latest toronto blue jays news is starting to get wild folks! While ridiculous rumors fly all over the internet about Juan Soto, the San Francisco Giants (a team not in on Juan Soto) has swooped in an stole a big time bat off the board. Where does this leave the Blue Jays and their hopes of adding a big bat, or Juan Soto, to their roster? Let’s discuss the latest MLB news and rumors as well as Juan Soto right here on Blue Jays Today!

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[Music] hello everybody and welcome back to Blue Jays today where today guys we’ve got your latest Blue Jays free agency frenzy updates as we’re also taking a look at where Wan sto is going to land there was a ton of rumors coming out of left field right field center field behind the plate there were rumors coming out of everywhere that W’s going to the Red Sox W’s going to the Dodgers W’s going to the Mets w got off from this team mode they got off from that team it was insane but all we know is that he has not signed anywhere yet and the terms of the deals are all speculatory right now but we’re going to look at it anyways and just get up to date with the latest that’s going on around him and of course the big signing that just happened half an hour before this live stream you got Willie Adamas going over to the San Francisco Giants a player that I think we all could agree that we were probably looking at as maybe a future replacement for bashed at the shortstop position but nonetheless he is a giant but we’re going to get into all that and more I’m your host ad padle and I’m your host Nicholas playlog and wouldn’t it just be great if tonight live on this channel the Toronto Blue Jays decide to do something big and stupid that’s what they’re rumored to be doing right I mean this is what all the Insiders are saying we’re going to do something big and we’re going to do something stupid woto whilst maybe not stupid is certainly very very big and it would be awesome if when when we get the update especially if he was going to the Toronto Blue Jays we were live on this channel for guys so stay tuned we’re going to be in for a good one this evening we anticipate that more news and rumors are going to break while we are Live on YouTube might not be woto but we just got the adamus update it does feel like now some of those other dominoes are starting to go which is a little bit scary because one of the big things that a lot of torono blue jays fans are worried about myself includ it is okay you know you are all in on the WAN sto stuff which is totally fair totally T going the of totally that you would be all in however that was a very elite player and like you said could have been a target for the Toronto Blue Jays that is now no longer available right you saw Blake snail go several days ago don’t necessarily know if he was going to be you know ever going to be a Toronto Blue J but that’s just one more starting pitcher that’s really really good and now one more position player that is off the board Tonto blue J is not going to be able to get one of those guys which means that you know the pet Alonzo and the bregman going to be that much tougher to get when they do decide to Pivot over to those guys yeah exactly once stto goes all the teams that missed out on stto are going to go to those guys like you’re saying and now there’s one less guy so it’s got a lot more competition going on here and it’s going to have to take the Blue Jays to continue to be stupid to overpay for those guys overpaying for those guys might get a little bit scary but I’m going to flash over here right now to the Jeff pass and tweet and this is why it’s also scary for me right now like Soto hasn’t sign but he’s hopefully going to sign soon but the longer it takes maybe more guys leave the board cuz you have the San Francisco Giants were never really a strong Contender at all in the wota sweep Stakes for the last month and then you also have the Dodgers they were there in the wota sweep Stakes but we all kind of knew like they were going to fall out pretty quick and they got their guy in Blake Snell so you’re seeing these other teams that still want to be competitive and have the money to spend spending the money and going to get their guys so that makes me a little concerned that it’s going to be a very tough pivot for the blue J well and I I said this yester yester right we were y or live last night discussing some of the most recent reports that were going on and I was saying look if I’m a team that is not one of the five squads in on Juan stto being the LA Dodgers the Toronto Blue Jays Boston Red Sox Mets and Yankees if I am a MLB team that is not one of those five then I’m doing exactly what the San Francisco Giants just did no one well maybe not nobody but fewer individuals are giving Willie adamus their full attention right now which is you know just ultimately going to be better for you right you get you get that guy effectively to yourself for a little while while these other big Market teams are looking at wodo and if you make the offer good enough then maybe just maybe you’ll luck out and he’ll sign it right there and then which is exactly what happened so honestly tip of the cap to those San Francisco Giants for uh for doing honestly what I kind of wish the Toronto Blue Chase would start doing as well sh and thank you to the person that just subscribed by the way guys if you haven’t already done so please hit the like and smash the Subscribe button well looking at this deal uh 7year 182 right here that’s a that’s a pretty nice deal I mean we all thought that he was going to get the upper $100 million range would you have done this type of deal if you were the Toronto Blue Jays for that length uh yeah that well that we were you know we we were saying that he had initially kind of turned down that $160 million offer right um and you know you get that offer in and okay it’s it’s early on this felt right this felt like what market value was going to be uh it’s still a lot of money you know a lot of money for a guy who is you know going to be turning well actually he’s still only 29 so [ __ ] I mean like that is pretty good uh but yeah I mean it is still a lot of money however I would have been more than comfortable if of course the Toronto Blue Jays decided to do it or or honestly any team like I think this is a good pay by the San Francisco Giants who for a while now have been needing a new short stop yeah and they just had their guy Brandon Crawford retire and you know speaking of the Giants we’ll give him a little bit of love here think about that left side of that infield that they’re building right there Matt Chapman they just signed then they got Willie Adamas you know Buster Posey he’s got himself quite the infield moving forward right here you know like that that team’s looking like they’re doing what they need to do to build a competitive team whereas the Blue Jays right now we’re still chasing after Juan stto and just general right now like there’s a lot of stuff we we’re going to get into about Juan sto but there hasn’t been a lot of Juan sto Blue Jays updates of like a massive contract being offered today at all it’s been all the other team and it feels pretty quiet on the Toronto Blue let me ask you though is that because you know the Toronto Blue Jays are not doing a whole lot and Russ Atkins is taking it slow or is that because there is just a a large and inherent bias against the Toronto Blue Jays by some of these American reporters folks I know that you got one piece right there was it Ken Rosenthal that was talking yeah it’s Ken Rosenthal I mean you guys probably saw the Tweet I’ll bring it up right here like I mean we do have a lot of like biased towards our Tron Blue Jays I mean Ken said this this just a random stray out of nowhere uh just clipped out here shout out to Zach right now who clipped this from the Ken’s article you know he’s talking about the New York Yankees might seek the booster offense rather than add to the rotation and then he goes on to talk about like you know rotation players like Burns just out of nowhere saying Burns might not want to join the Tron Blue Jays period at that point the orals would then be up against Boston s San Francisco Giants for rotation guys and I’m like well what what what the hell like where is that coming from where is that coming from just as easily said like legitimately you could have just as easily said um Burns might not want to join the Arizona Diamondbacks you know what I mean like it feels like it just came out of completely left field he might want to join the Blue Jays if they do something dumb and stupid and pay him like 250 you know or like 260 270 you know they he might do that but to go back to your point of like you know is that why we haven’t heard everything I maybe maybe not you know we don’t really know I mean I think everything is kind of keeping it really Hush Hush from the WAN SoDo side of things and I think today with the internet of everyone blowing up and all those you know rumor frenes that were going on it was because people he it’s Saturday people have you know a lot of people aren’t working right now but everyone was like okay like this is the time like we all heard all throughout the week that it was going to happen before the winter meetings the winter meetings are tomorrow so like it’s going to happen now so I think a lot of people were kind of capitalizing on that hype of like everyone’s anticipating something big to happen and not a lot happened but a lot of people that all stuff that did come out were about you know the Red Sox and the Yankees and especially the New York Mets people are talking about the New York Mets quite a lot but that that just answer your question and we will get to all of those updates momentarily but I do need to give a quick shout out here to Rob Wong just while we’re on the Canadian bias topic right here I like this tweet he tweeted this out yesterday I believe it was saying a Juan sto signing in Toronto would truly leave a large percentage of American baseball media in shambles and honestly like the petty part of me dude the petty part of me would love to watch Ken Rosenthal and the lot of them have to report on juano signing to Toronto could you imagine them being like having to justify like they’d probably come out with a take being like this is like again bad for baseball this is not good for the sport like why why would the a a great talent like Juan stto go to a losing team in a in a Canadian team they would never say Canadian team but that’s what they’re implying that’s what they’re thinking yeah not and I hate when they call call like us not a big Market team when we are always in the top 10 payroll the last few years and we have like the fourth largest population in North America what’s what are you talking about and everybody Spotify wrapped has Drake at either number one number two number three you know don’t tell us that we’re not a big Market goddamn Team all right I’ve seen your Spotify wrapped I’ve seen what you guys are all listening to it’s so annoying it it’s actually just Blasphemous that’s like saying like yeah the boss of Red Sox aren’t a big Market team it’s like well I get there’s different historic you know parts of those franchises that are very different but that they both spend a lot of money and they both are always highly competitive and they’re both looking to always add big players every year it’s annoying man massive shout out here to Arie pie with first Dono of the stream $27.99 Dono what a donation right there dud Soo signing tomorrow I hope it’s tonight honestly we’ll see what happens you never know you really never know with this stuff um $27.99 that is a massive amount for Blue Jays today and we appreciate that so much that is like legit like I I feel like Juan sto’s projected contract that the Mets have offered him which we’re going to get to momentarily he might make that in less than a second I’d have to do the math but he probably makes that amount of money in in half a second total side note I saw this Tik Tok once of like um it was Jeff Bezos talking to an Amazon worker uh and and next to both of those guys was showing how much money they’re earning per like second that goes by and Jeff in that one brief conversation Jeff Bezos made like $15,000 and he made like 60 it was crazy no I mean it’s it truly is insane and that is kind of like sto you know so thank you so much we appreciate that dude that’s a perfect transition to talk about what is being reported as the projected contract for stto another quick shout out to the gaming freak here who has been a member in the Bautista bat flip member uh what ti for a [ __ ] year and then donate $70 $69.99 holy mother of God let [ __ ] go why not us why not us everybody why not us for Juan soda that’s right we got 300 Toronto Blue Jay fans in here or just Baseball fans in general let me tell you why not the Toronto Blue Jays shout out to R pie shout out to everybody watching the stream right now W’s in the chat why not man hey guys listen just like I I want look I’m want one so I’m chasing them hard but like [ __ ] if we don’t get them like let’s go get Burns let’s go get like Alonzo let’s go get why not let’s go get Dom oh also man we’re on this gifted train right now 20 gifted donos from the gaming freak the legend the man the myth he’s why not us dude shout out to the gaming freak guys if if you can put a w in the chat for the gaming freak man this guy is legitimately a legend let’s transition and talk just a little bit about that projected contract right here guys we’re getting carried away you from the Legends all in the chat man seriously Juan SoDo very good at baseball is he $730 million good because that is the projected number right now over 15 years let me do the quick maths on this what does that work out to be 730 divided by 15 48.6 million uh year that is American money by the way everybody so that is a that’s like you know what $70 million Canadian in a year a lot of godamn money holy what do you think about this yeah I mean it’s I I always do think that like I I have been thinking that it’s going to be like 7:30 if not more than this like I think it could be 750 easily no problem now the one thing I do want to cautious c um cautious um make aware here is that a lot of people have been kind of coming out and talking about like you know you can’t really trust exactly these numbers we’ve heard numbers like this being projected from this guy before that have not been true so you have to be very careful on like believing this or not however what I can take away from this is yes $730 million could be on the board absolutely and for 15 years absolutely like I think we’re going to see a contract at least 15 years for 750 when when it’s all said and done like if the Mets are offering that the Blue Jays can match that you know well why can’t they you know you can’t really give me a reason why they can’t because they have been willing to go and do crazy and dumb things this offseason so yeah I mean that’s what I make of it what about you um I think that this is like I know that there’s been speculation as to oh is this number real is this number not real I think it’s real um I I think that this is where where it’s all going we are 24 hours away from what is the projected deadline so if we’re going to make it up to that $750 million which everybody’s kind of starting to feel like that’s where it’s going it’s only natural that at this point someone’s going to be at 730 and if anyone’s gonna be there it’s probably Steve Cohen and his goddamn New York Met so I think that this that this offer is accurate I think that if you know I mean like if you’re a if you’re another team right now you got to be kind of [ __ ] bricks because you know it’s like oh man like we are reaching that we’re reaching that uh that ceiling right now I don’t know how much further we can go um so obviously am I concerned about the Toronto Blue Jays being able to match that a little bit because that is a lot of godd damn money but again we’re trying to do something big and we’re trying to do something stupid and paying one guy 7 $150 million even if he is a generational player it is kind of stupid yeah it is I’m going to comment on that in just one second you got a Gennifer with a super chat third Super Chat on a live stream let’s go Jennifer shout out thank you to you thank you very much Jennifer I appreciate you like if it’s going to be 750 I I think the the only way the Blue Jays get Wan SoDo now is is $800 million like truly like if the Mets are willing to go 750 and over 730 which could we end up being 750 like yeah the blue JS are going to have to go like like $800 million is that make you now is that get to the point of like where the stupid becomes really stupid to be offering a guy hand her million dollars uh yeah of course um but like it’s I actually heard this I forget who said this but you know one of the one of the big-time insiders said this um and they were like it’s getting to that point now in the negotiations where if you are one of those teams that misses out on woto like and you’re in the race right so let’s say you’re the you’re the Yankees or whoever you’re us and and we miss out on wotto immediately the fan base is going to be like well thank God we didn’t sign that contract it’s it’s it’s at that point where we can all agree it is an overpay it’s too much money for one guy no one guy in I I genuinely believe no one guy in baseball should be getting close to $800 million not even like the only one is maybe shotani because he does something so special that nobody else can do but you know ultimately if you’re getting paid that much money I need to see like 20 War a year and that clearly is never going to happen so yeah no one guy should ever get that that being said though I I still want him you know I mean who’s the highest position player that’s not named you know right now I think it’s Mike Trout still by average annual value I think it’s still Mike Trout or like total total contract like value total contract it might maybe it is Mike Trout like $426 million I think it is it might be just think about that he’s doubling the last position player like and Mike Trout signed around the exact same age and let me ask you this okay let me ask you Mike Trout obviously an incredible baseball player in his own right M the guy’s barely been on the field the last three years you hurt and but but this is the risk that goes along with paying somebody that much money right I think a lot of people kind of look at that contract I actually saw some articles coming out this year being like that Mike Trout contract starting to look pretty bad and from an investment standpoint I get it because you’re paying a lot of money for a return on investment that you were just not getting right now so I think we can all agree that yeah paying one guy that much money there’s more risk than is going to be reward all that being said though if you’re Rogers Communication company and you have billions of dollars to spend [ __ ] do it right I see I thought you were going to go with that difference between Mike Trout and ju so Mike Trout is like an allaround better player than juano was when he signed cuz not only did he have the on base he had the power he had the contact just like Wan sto does but he had the stolen bases he had the great defense like he was a complete five tool player when he first signed that deal and now woto which a lot of people have brought this up like why are people play paying $750 million for a guy who eventually become a DH is it because he’s a great hitter you know and he’s young you know what I mean um yeah it’s it is it’s tough to find the logic there right it is it’s and I do think again I want to be very clear here $700 million or 750 or whatever it is yes it is too much money it it is it’s too much money for one guy even even though he is Juan SoDo and he’s 26 years old and and I do really believe that he is a special special talent it’s too much money with the injury risk and with everything um I think that like the last couple years in MLB especially because you have all of these extremely um you know one rich owners that have kind of taken over you got this new wave of really rich owners Steve Cohen kind of LED that charge but you also saw crazy off Seasons by the LA Dodgers I think that you’ve seen some success in the last couple years of teams going all in like crazy and I’m referring to the Texas Rangers and I’m referring to the LA Dodgers right two two organizations that the off season prior to winning a World Series spent close to billion dollars in the offseason both of them I think the Dodgers were even more than that right and it and it worked so I think that there’s kind of this prevailing wisdom going on right now in the MLB that to win you have to spend like crazy and that’s kind of you know having this you know domino effect where now we’re getting to absurd Amounts is it the right thing to do maybe do I still believe in woto of course it’s it’s a tough thing to navigate man yeah I’d love to see their uh you know their finances and and the logic behind like well if we spend $800 million on Juan stto like we truly believe we can get it all back if we’re a a winning team and we sell jerseys and we Market the crap out of this like if if it works it works you know like and you know who am I to say you that it’s a stupid amount of money if you can pay for it thing right like if you go and you win a World Series how can anybody say otherwise yeah I mean like the Dodgers like that came out this year where the Otani contract’s already starting to pay for itself literally in one season it’s like okay well that’s a fantastic deal who cares if it was $700 million right also I’m seeing a lot comments or questions excuse me in the live chat if you guys have a burning question make sure you go in the description down below we have a Google form that has a questionnaire uh for our mailbox if you have a question submit it into that Google form it’ll pop up on our end here we’re going to be answering your questions throughout the stream later on so if you have a question and we’re missing it right now throw it down there in that Google for you haven’t already done so guys please hit that like button we’re seven likes away eight likes away seven likes seven likes away from 69 folks whoever number 69 is and hit that subscribe button if you haven’t already done so your name will pop up right here now along with the whole $730 million and everything like that we got an update from Shawn McAdam but before we show that update can we show the picture of Juan sto right now oh yeah I would love to actually I want yeah let’s show the picture of wano this was going you know nuclear on the in on the internet folks you got Wan SoDo sitting at a table I believe these are all Boris representative I think that’s Boris right that’s actually Boris right there and then the other two guys are you know clearly his you know his side guys and you know like his posi or whatever all all these guys like trying to get the most money and that to me looks like a guy wants OD to right there that to me looks like a guy that just got you know a billion dollars offered by the Oakland Athletics and is really thinking hard about it you know but seriously it looks like a guy that’s stressed out right now and is trying to figure out what the right move is imagine like put yourself in his shoes right now it’s it’s just you know how time flies by so fast for a lot of us right time just flies this guy’s got a decision to make in the next like 24 hours of his next 15 years and how much money he’s going to make like that’s a massive decision and not just that too but like this is your baseball Legacy this is your MLB career this is where you’re going to live this is presumably where you’re going to you know start raise and grow a family like this is this is a big [ __ ] move this is your whole life right here this is like a huge part this is a quarter maybe a quarter of your life seriously right where you go it could be a place where they retire a jersey and it could be a place that you are later you know known synonymously with right you’ve been bouncing around all over the place but if you spend 15 years with the Toronto Blue Jays for instance and win us a World Series you are going to be synonymous with the Toronto Blue Jays from here on out you’ll always be known as a Toronto Blue Jay and then you know the other one so yeah of course it’s Big Move now where do you think he is right now yeah I I’m assuming he’s in Dallas I’m assuming he’s around the winter Med assuming he is also in Dallas massive shout out here to William by the way for being a member for 16 months what do you think when Jansen Kikuchi and Chapman going so quick pissed me off we will get to that shortly dude we’re not going to forget about your question we will answer it shortly um yeah I assume he is in Dallas it just makes the most sense uh especially because I think Boris is going to want to be in Dallas um you know he’s you know not only is just representing woto but he’s representing most guys this off season right and effectively everything needs to go through that guy also sidebar I just thought about this if I’m like a you know if I’m like somebody like a glabar Torres I don’t know who he’s represented by but let’s just say it’s Scott Boris right man I’d be so fed up with these wanto sh just sign already bro I’m trying to make money literally like you know even if people are calling about me my agent’s not picking up cuz he’s too busy talking to right now yeah L this is this is the signing of his life man I I wonder how much money I mean you probably look it up like what his net worth is like how much money scottb house well it’s it’s a shitload it is a shitload because there’s so again he he represents almost everyone of insane value and uh you know if his agent fees are anything like you know typical agent fees 10 15% um it’s a lot it’s going to be a lot of money now what do you think they’re discussing uh well I think we know they’re discussing they’re discussing where are you going to go and what do you need to see and XY Z and is this enough money I hope that they’re discussing the Toronto Blue Jays and Ross Atkins just sent you in $750 million do you want to go there and want s’s going like oh my gosh I I I didn’t think I wanted to go there so bad but but but now that I see this and and vlat wants to play Call of Duty with me later and I and I I really like him and this would just be so great I hope that’s what they’re talking about but more realistically they are weighing the pros and cons of everything and um I mean honestly for us you know this is just pure speculation but kind of a good thing that he’s stressed out right now yeah I mean that means there’s obviously a big really he’s thinking about it if it was so you know clearcut it’d be like all right you’re a met like you’d be a met yesterday you know what I mean but but it’s not so you know I know there’s a actually do we have any little bit more of any oh yeah we do have one little thing I wanted to ask a question but I want to get through all the wo stuff first um now talking about the Sha McAdam thing you brought up a little bit earlier you know someone else said it in the chat it seems unlikely right now that the soda decision could be made today but you never know I mean this is just sha McAdam you know going through his Source but better chance of it happening Sunday so it could be happening tomorrow guys or like like Jeff passon said it could be latest by this Monday um also he’s did mention that the Red Sox is running he’s also like a Red Sox reporter so there you go but so it could happen tomorrow it might not happen tonight but if it does you know that we’re going to be here for it everybody now I wanted to ask you cuz we’ve been doing this a few times now uh throughout this week where are you right now today with the Blue Jays percentage wise is it going down is it going up I’m still at 20% dude we like I’ve been kind of living and dying at 20% now for uh a little while and uh and I do think that that is ultimately where I am still um I don’t think I’ve seen enough by like I I expected all this to happen you know I expected the Mets to go crazy with like an insane amount of offer and and we know we always knew it was going to be right you got to do something big and you got to do something stupid and we were saying 750 and it might even have to be an 800 from from Ross Atkins and and Edward Rogers and everything like that if they’re going to go and they’re going to get wotto in Toronto Blue Jays blue so I am still at 20% chance the Toronto Blue Jays can get him if anything I might lower you know some of the other teams and and have the Mets closer to like a 50% chance or something like that yeah like I I I would uh if I were to like update everybody I’m I’m going Mets like 70 no maybe even 75% like I I’m saying like it’s like that good I’m going to drop the Blue Jays down a bit cuz again I am thinking about it if that report is true where it’s 730 million or more for 15 years that the Mets have offered if that report is true then the Blue Jays are going to have to offer $ 800 million or something close to that to make all the challenges that the Blue Jays roster is going to face with no Vlad extension no bow extension being a losing team being in Canada taxes all those obstacles you’re going to have to pay a little more for so so if the Mets are going 750 with the team that went to the NLCS then hell like we’re going to have to pay 800 million now that is stupid and dumb like we did see that one report come out and say that the blue JS are going to do something big and stupid then sure they can do it but that’s why I’m not saying they’re totally out of it but I think less likely now for me I’m going to I’m going to go draw I was at 15 yesterday I’m going to go 10 I’m going back down to 10 I think this is all part for the course man this is I knew that this was going to happen uh I trust the process uh you know we got multiple people and multiple donations why not us why not us Ari why not us chat speaking of 446 people in here right now why don’t you hit that subscribe button if you enjoy the content right now we’re going to be covering this story and all of the free agency stories as they continue to pop up this off seon very exciting week coming everybody winter meeting starting tomorrow evening other than the whole woto sweep Stak we’re going to have the MLB draft lottery that’s going to happen on Tuesday we anticipate that there is going to be a lot of different trades transpiring and everything like that and of course some various other signings before we get to other free agency news and updates and there is quite a bit let’s give a little update on our good buddy Beyond average Mick over there in Boston now if you’ve been following along with what I’m Loosely referring to as like kind of the meme storyline of this Wan soda sweep staks Beyond average Mick roughly a week and a half ago this was before or actually no not before but right on American Thanksgiving so a week and a half ago now a week and a half ago he comes out he says that Wan sto is in agreement with the Boston Red Sox he’s in agreement a deal has already been done Soto’s coming to Boston he then goes further digs himself a hole and says that Soto is going to be going to Boston in person that weekend that was a week ago and they’re going to be having some big PR stunt they’re going to be filming a video at Fenway Park they’re going to be doing all this [ __ ] and then after even Jeff passon pushes back and several other insiders push back he continues to dig himself into a hole now we’re getting photos of Juan sto like sitting there looking being stressed does this look like a guy that has a decision already done all these Representatives around him no I do not believe so however that being said beyond average Mick is still going after it right now folks what did he have to say today I mean he literally said he reached out to multiple people this morning and I haven’t gotten a response maybe because everyone’s like dude like get out of here which makes me think today is the day everything gets announced it hasn’t been announced so far Earth would that be your your thought process dude like he just he just like [ __ ] like week ago again it’s not frustrating me I’m just like you’re you’re kind of annoying me dude like more than a week ago you said it was going to happen any day hour in the coming days it’s been 10 days dude and then he goes I stand by reporting and we’ll accept any oh I love how he puts this cuz he probably knows he’s bone he’s cooked yeah I I’m willing to accept any and all criticism if I am wrong yeah like you whatever sources you have dude like if if it is the source which maybe it is maybe it’s the same source that helped them with the firing of the Boston Bruins coach it you got to get a new source you know or maybe he’s just not good at baseball you got to move on from him so that’s the update on him right there I I think uh there’s a lot of this going on and he’s one of the most notable one right now out there well listen man the the misinformation surrounding woto has been um it’s been a lot uh it’s not been um I guess unexpected though like I kind of anticipated that it was going to be this way just whenever you get a name as big as SoDo it’s going to be crazy and we’re seeing that right now we saw that with Otani we saw that with Aaron judge or arson judge last year as I should say more on that a um and of course you’re seeing with Juan soda the difference between him and everyone else though is like he continues to go after it you know you could have very easily you know gone out and said sources have told me stto is coming to Boston a deal is in place as and then just left it at that and then like we’ll see what happens thing um you know but no like you have like Quinn tupled down you’re you’re a captain going down with the ship but I got to respect it uh it doesn’t look good though bro yeah cuz like when you get a report wrong usually you stop I mean you look at the big ones I mean we’re going to talk about John Haymon you know he got a report wrong about arson judge you got John marosi I mean man I felt bad for that guy he he he didn’t double down like he he actually I think he did double down on the day saying but he kind of just reiterated like this is what I’ve been told you know like I was told this so that’s it right like he was he’s not going to put his ego into it and defend but yeah I mean that’s uh that’s that’s tough Mick I mean just he’s already too far deep not like you could turn back now like he has to keep going right he’s got it he’s got to keep going let’s take a little break and talk about that uh John hmon stuff everybody if you logged on to Twitter this morning let me I actually took a screenshot of it cuz I it was ridiculous I was thinking tweeting and I was like you know what there’s already so much out about this I wake up in the i l Twitter what am I hoping for I’m hoping to see some Juan sto updates I’m hoping to see some uh Toronto Blue’s free agent updates in general all that [ __ ] you know how you have those trending tabs and everything like that you know it’ll be on the right side it it’ll give you some trending options instead of Wan sto and instead of any other MLB free agent updates actually this one reads John Haymon denies racial slur accusations on social media oh my God I like what look if you guys missed it like John Haymon went on a historic run of just horrible event after horri dude like I don’t know if it’s from the lack of sleep I don’t know if you know the Xanax was kicking in early I don’t know what was going on for this guy but it it wasn’t good so first things first he goes on wfn which is a New York uh radio show and first of all I will say my person SP the wfn like the hosts there were some pretty tough questions and and they were kind of leading JN into like a you know like are you kind of a corrupt reporter you know what I mean because what he asked was like you know do you get a cut of wano’s pay uh paycheck or wot’s uh contract and he he goes no no I don’t and then he keeps going saying not even a not even 0.1% like nothing come on John and it was like okay like no no I don’t but that that’s what started it all then John started to fume he started to sit on that he continued for a little while then they brought up the urson judge thing being like you know you got that wrong and blah blah blah blah they talked about that and then at one point it just all broke down if you guys haven’t heard the clip go check it out we can’t really play it here but like go check it out he he broke down stormed off the air saying I’m never coming on the show again I can’t believe you’d ever insult my journalistic integrity and he said I can’t believe it then repeated I can’t believe it with a voice crack and left I thought it was uh I genuinely thought it was hilarious I thought it was some of the uh the best reporting that I’ve seen in a while actually um no but seriously uh like the guy in my opinion was pushing it maybe a little bit too I think genuinely it was just like you know he was trying to joke around with hymon and like you know Haymon just like wasn’t in a joking mood like that’s just that’s all it was really like he was just trying to have some fun and clearly like that those things are a sour spot for him especially the arson judge thing like you could tell like he cuz immediately after he heard that it’s like well I’ve gotten uh like hundreds of reports right and you know I I you you know I I I I that was a big mistake for me but you know and just like kept going on and on and on defending himself uh so clearly it was a sore spot for him um but now you know it’s just getting Meed like crazy and then of course there was something online where somebody somebody said like Heyman um did you did you drop the end bomb after after you got off the call to which hymon responded after um and I I don’t know what the hell he was like I don’t know if that’s photoshopped I don’t know what the hell or edited later I don’t know what the hell he was thinking um and then he’s been you know trying to deny that saying well I I I thought it said f bombs um it’s a wild situation I encourage you guys if you’re looking for a laugh to go search it up on Twitter or wherever else just a fun little break from The wota Sweep stakes and uh and yeah I I do not believe he’s ever going on WF again probably not we actually got some breaking news a little bit right here but first things first got to give a shout out to Nathaniel right here the Dono sing how’s it going that pairs of vibe love it and then Ann beacock saying love the show boys been watching you for a while keep up the great work thank you an thank you everybody for the beautiful donor was here tonight also a donation coming in here from arst right here W’s in the chat for every single person who’s donated to this channel to this stream we appreciate the support the support so much guys if you haven’t already done so please hit that like and join the community by subscribing can we get up to 169 likes on the stream that would be massive let’s go over and talk about uh the breaking news do you do you do you speak Spanish I don’t but I can get Google Translate in on this I actually I I don’t like a lot what x is doing right now but they did add that whole translate feature and I think it’s just a lifesaver you know I mean to that cuz you get a whole another Market out there that you can listen to and read I mean is true so Enrique roas ESPN journalist has well over 300,000 followers on Twitter so with that means he’s reputable he’s coming out and saying Yankees are neither a one nor a two favorite to sign soda that’s what he’s saying he’s saying they’re not number one they’re not number two so maybe they’re number three get out of here Yankees get out of here again how accurate we don’t know but that if that is the rumor then is it the Red Soxs or the Blue Jays up there with the Mets cuz we know it’s the Mets number one but who’s number two is it Red Sox or is a blue jays yeah I thought for a while now that the Yankees are are on the outside looking in there’s just been a little bit too many reports coming out indicating that saying that you know they are kind of like a third party involved in all of this and you know they’re not they’re just not as aggressive in these sweep Stakes as some other people and yes of course they’ve come out and you know they’re they’re in that 700 um million range just like the other teams but it feels like if they are going to win if they’re going to win this they need stto to have appreciated his time with them so much that that like that is their defining thing you know yeah and you would think that going to the uh World Series would be would would help with their case right but I mean listen we’ve seen crazier [ __ ] happen before right I remember when Raptors fans got their hearts broken after you know kawh Leonard wins literally wins a championship and then you know Hits free agency and everyone’s like oh well he won a championship he’s got to come back and no goes to Clippers and and actually it all kind of hit the fan after that you know like probably should have stayed with the Raptors that’s a whole other side thing so if the Yankees are going to win this they need that to have meant a lot to woto and he needed to have you know like they they effectively auditioned for the for his you know services for a year now did he like that does he want to go somewhere else I don’t think the money is going to be the deciding factor for the New York Yankees yeah like honestly guys the based on everything that I’ve been seeing like Dodgers are obviously fifth they’re out of this one at this point you can count the Dodgers out I think Yankees are next to go like I I truly think the bottom the top three are going to be Mets Boston and blue jays just because of how desperate they are like we haven’t seen that same desperation for the Yankees and actually sucks for the Yankees point right now like they lost a chance to get Willie Adamas and now if I’m the Yankees and I’m seeing people leave I need to sh up my lineup right now and I’m not feeling a whole lot of confidence coming out and getting Wan sto for who knows how much money I need to pay maybe they could go leave and start signing some of those other guys before they’re all gone while everyone’s looking at SoDo I don’t know just an idea may a thought again like that’s that is the question right at what point do you as a team and organization face the music and go okay we got to be real honest with ourselves and look ourselves in the mirror we’re not liking our chances in these Wan soda sweep steaks now we can stay in this thing and we can you know we can fight it out to the very better end or alternatively do we want to Pivot right now and go get a Pete Alonzo if you’re the Yankees you need a first baseman you would you probably would have really appreciated Willie adamus that guy’s off the board now you know like do you want to get to a spot where you’re in the wota sweep Stakes till the very last minute but then Pete Alonzo is also left too and now you know if he decides to go to the Mets or wherever he goes goes to the Blue Jays Red Sox now you’re like oh [ __ ] you know you don’t want to if you’re the New York Yankees I would love for it to happen but you guys are not going to want to have happen what happened to us last off season yeah hey look let me put another Wrinkle In This You Know Drama of the New York Yankees I’ve been a lot of predictions coming out here that well wano is going to go to the Mets and when that happens and the Yankees are going to get Alonzo because that just makes sense positionally wise they need a first baseman really badly and they’re losing a big bat however we have heard reports that Pete Alonzo is going to get a another offer by the Mets whenever they do sign wano and that the Mets would be more encouraged to bring back pet Alonzo if they got wodo that’s yeah like that is crazy to me um so it’s a little dangerous possible it is possible because it is Steve Cohen and again like if you look at I guess what the meta of baseball is right now it’s spend a billion dollars in the off season win a World Series right you easy it’s easy it yeah when you put it that way it’s like oh okay well it’s it’s worked the last couple years why why not a thiry year yeah I mean if you really think if you’re spending $750 million on SoDo oh no 150 Ono like whatever dude might as well like really go all in you know get Corin Burns too while you’re at it so yeah if anyone is capable of doing that it would be Steve Cohen um I I really would hate that uh because we’re already hearing so many reports not even just reports but like I guess opinion pieces coming out about how and why baseball needs a salary cap it all that [ __ ] if you end up with a team again this off season that spends over a billion dollars and gets all the free agents and stuff like that man like maybe even I’m starting to come around to to that idea as well and you know I just I don’t want it I I don’t personally want it but we’ll see what happens we’ll see what happens guys let let’s give a quick shout everybody to the 444 or 140 people 440 people Jesus in the chat right now everybody is enjoying the rumors I’m really hoping that we get a little something break right now but before we do let’s actually give a real quick shout out to the sponsor of this podcast hey guys time for a quick shout out to the sponsor of this video hit your picks and knock it out of the park with betway scan the QR code down below or click the link in the description to join the action available in Ontario only must be 19 years older to participate and guys please bet responsibly now back to the content shout out to betway guys if you’re Sports betters make sure you go check it out everybody uh we had a we had a good friend of ours that we’ve met through uh baseball town if you guys ever been to baseball Town I’d highly recommend it if you’re a blue jay fan in the GTA area it happens a lot during the uh season so we’ve been there Keegan Ma has been there Rob Wong that we showed up on the screen has been there and also Liz McGuire’s been there if you guys don’t know who Liz Maguire is she uh she got hit in the face with a baseball and then got a tops card made after her of that giant spot on her head uh and she got really popular and pretty uh famous over over the summer and now she got rep she got into an interview with uh Mike Wilner and this started to get a little bit of Buzz basically that she’s she put it out there she’s got all everyone’s backs right now basically saying I I’m a huge fan I love the game of baseball I love the Toronto Blue Jays but I will not go to a single baseball game unless they they extend Vladimir Guerrero Jr so I want to give a nice shout out to Liz Maguire for sticking up using the platform that she’s been given and shouting out the extension for Vladimir Guero Jr that’s what we all got to be doing yeah I I do love uh I do love Liz if you’ve ever met her in person she is a great individual ual um highly recommend following her on Twitter or anything like that just a Die Hard Blue Jays fan for real but voicing the opinion that a lot of Toronto Blue Jays fans also feel right you got to get vlat locked down especially if you miss out on Juan and even if you do get Juan soda still would be great to get Vladimir Gro Jr on a contract extension whether or not she’s going to follow through with not going to a Blue Jays game we’ll we’ll have to wait and see on that one but you know what if does like all the respect to you all the respect to you I mean hell like I I I think I went to like four games last year you know because they were so bad but if they’re not going to extend V man I’m going to go outside and do our little streeters but uh going in maybe I’ll maybe I’ll take a stand too right you maybe I get it man I get it we we do need to see some movement here let’s talk a little bit about a trade report that came out today show it once again the that way everybody great sponsor uh let’s talk a little bit about a trade report that came out today it was with this St Louis Cardinals folks they are assuredly going to be trading away Nolan Aeron we discussed him a little bit yesterday in the live stream but we got 430 people in the chat right now while we’re waiting for some one new oneota news to break or other news to break Nolan Aron probably a future Hall of Famer maybe the best defender to ever play the goddamn game of baseball like genuinely a strong argument right there getting up there in age and is worth $63 million I believe on his contract is that somebody that you want the Toronto Blue Jays to go out and to trade for massive shouted here to Daryl Marshall for joining and becoming a starter member also there’s that way right there yeah got to throw it up there man we got the request from the higher ups we’re throwing in the bway logo um yeah so no one I know we talked about yeah a little bit yesterday I’m cool with it I think the thing is I do see the decline I mean I could throw up the numbers right now I do see the decline coming in for Nolan Aeron that’s why I would feel a little bit more comfortable either a they ate a little bit of their contract but that’s the thing they want to dump the contract it’s like a George Springer situation they want to dump the contract so if they if they’re not willing to eat the contract then we need to get a little bit more Prospect help but if they want to send us prospects in exchange to eat the contract of Nolan arado and play him then I’m okay with that I want to hear your thoughts guys cuz if you do look at the numbers like you look at the Ops 891 next year 774 next year 719 like that is a drop in the Ops little little update here from Hector Gomez this came out 11 seconds ago everybody he is saying Source the Red Sox taking an aggressive stance in push for Juan SoDo as Alex spear reported the team’s pursuit of SoDo represents an effort to do something they haven’t been able to accomplish in at least the last couple of decades I don’t like that man I don’t like that especially after hearing that uh you know that the Yankees are neither one nor two um I know the Mets are going to be number one which you know if we’re hearing this that would probably indicate that the Red Soxs are number two which doesn’t feel great yeah I mean I look again like you got to take these with the gra so Hector Gomez is as we known he says a lot of stuff you know and he knows his platform he knows it’s going to get looks just like we’re doing right now um so this could just be a you know an attempt to get some sort of Click going on and it’s working but I would hope that maybe some it would give me a little bit more reassurance if something were to happen with the Blue Jays like if the Blue Jays were to come out and do something and put in an aggressive offer even if it came through like a random like not random but like um a lesser uh MLB Insider I I hate to use the word lesser but like let’s face it like Jeff Bon Hector Gomez I think I trust Jeff pan a lot more than Hector Gomez right now if it came out just saying okay well we’re hearing Rumblings that the Jays are doing something here to to put a stand in and like give their best shot at jua but right now I’ve heard literally nothing about the Blue Jays I’m hearing a lot more about the Red Sox than I am hearing about the Toronto Blue Jays at this current moment you know it does feel like they are again 100% in this race uh which is a little scary for sure because you know if he’s not going to come to Toronto well well then in my opinion it’s okay you you know get out of the AL East like seriously get out of the AL East go over to New York Mets we don’t want to have to deal with you literally ever again do not go over to the Boston Red Sox where then they are going to have Raphael des and want stto locked up for a decade like that’s a that’s my dream but for Guerrero and stto you know I don’t want you guys to be living out my dream yeah exactly like again like the win here is if they go to the Mets right if they go to the Mets then we’re good you know that’s one less guy that could be on the Red Sox one less guy that could be on the Yankees we’ll have to go and figure out another way I mean if you really look at the AL East right now like what are the moves that have been kind of happening the Boston Red Sox have gotten uh Chapman right A’s Chapman that’s it I mean you have like the Yankees lost Klay Holmes right they for sure lost him there’s oh I guess you could say the Rays got Danny Jansen like that’s kind of it that’ll be like the Ray’s only move we’re not going to see anything else from the Tampa Bay raise everybody which I guess is something mhm exactly exactly so yeah I mean I hope to see some more blue J stuff going on but um let’s transition a little bit over to maybe a potential blue J that could be coming in 2025 it all depends on how everything goes but officially it did happen today where Roki sasaki’s window has opened and he is officially being posted Ed at the winter meetings upcoming this week so that opens a 45-day window Tuesday that will allow him to sign after January 15 2025 sources told ESPN so we got the opportunity now this Tuesday hey Roki Sasaki remember that great relationship that we created you know apparently all those years where we sent over guys to go and talk to you from the Toronto Blue Jays yeah remember us we want you on our team and we’re willing to make you a legend over here in Toronto and all that kind of good stuff but uh yeah that’s a little update on him just he’s going to be posted there should be maybe some more Rumblings coming out about that it’s going to piss me off if it’s just like Dodgers immediately you know what I mean like and and that is kind of the expectation at this point that it’s going to be the LA Dodgers and I do get it right like they are they should be the number one favorite for a reason we’ve kind of gone through it a couple times talking about why he’d want to go to the LA Dodgers but let me make the pitch right here for the Toronto Blue Jays all right you’re coming over to a completely new country and you the only country that has only one team right we got one baseball team everybody in Canada is going to love and adore you I guess the same thing can be said for the LA Dodgers but aren’t you going to be overshadowed by sh Otani and Yosh Yamoto over here you’re not going to be overshadowed you’re you’re going to be the guy you’re going to be the guy of the future you know you’re you’re going to be the the dude that that we build around you know in the next window after we extend Guerrero and and and sign Juan SoDo right so look sasak I fully understand understand why you were going to want to go to the LA Dodgers and probably going to end up there but this would be an exceptional moment for Ross Atkins if he could cook here yeah and like we thought about um you know sh Otani when he was coming over here that he would bring bring a lot of international attention well maybe not to the same extent of a shoh Otani but maybe we can get some sort of international attenion from a Roki Sasaki you never know maybe there’s some big Roki sasis over there fans over there in in Japan you never know you never know maybe it helps out I don’t know you know I mean Kikuchi got a little bit of some Japanese Revenue dollars coming over here but I think this guy’s a little bit more exciting and I would hope to see the Blue Jays in on it however the big disadvantages I mean here’s the thing I was going to say the big disadvantages we have like five less million dollars in international signing bonus versus The Dodgers but does it really matter if this guy’s going to get a lot of endorsements apparently the word is this was like a month ago he was going to get like $60 million of endorsements next year like he doesn’t care about extra five it really like if you’re as good as people think that you’re going to be it doesn’t matter like it really doesn’t matter right play good baseball you’ll make the money yeah seriously you will make the money exactly right um I wanted to talk again uh you know we were discussing the aado trade which I mean it sounded like most people in the chat were actually down for it um but other than just Aeron and the St Louis Cardinals there are two players on the Chicago Cubs that they are effectively like guaranteed to trade this offseason they come out and they’ve said like we’re going to do this this and you know somebody someone’s going to trade with us whether you like it or not uh I know that one of them was Cody beler but I’m blanking on the other one it’s Suzuki Suzuki sayi Suzuki yes which honestly like I’d be kind of down for dude uh yeah I would be I mean look at this guy right like last year he batted for 283 with an Ops of 848 he has 2 years left on his contract and I believe it is $38 million total so $19 million per year um yeah I would love a corner outfielder right fielder that can go and hit me some 21 home runs with a lot of slugging and on base yes please like I Cody Bal is a bit more of a risky option because it’s like risky because of the dollar amount that you’re spending on him $27.5 million I think he’s going to get this year there’s a lot of money for a guy with an Ops sub51 like that feels like a a lot of risk we talked about him a lot here but SE Suzuki has only been getting better every single year he’s been in the MLB um which makes sense and he’s 20 oh he’s 30 years old right now 27 he was signed but that’s this one for me if like we’re not going to get santand and we’re not going to get Tas Hernandez you think about the Toronto Blue Jays window where we have one or two years left this is a perfect guy to add to that one or two that two-year window because that’s all he’s GNA we’re going to have him here for I think it’s perfect man now what are we going to give up for this guy you know that is a good question because he is definitely going to like or the Cubs excuse me are going to want something a lot more uh than what they’d want for Cody bound we’re getting an update right now which I do not like I really do not like no is it from the chat uh yeah it’s from the chat not great no no this is not great uh Tyler O’Neal Tyler O’Neal everybody going to Baltimore [ __ ] man I was actually so down for this guy like I was so down for this guy okay me too me too okay let me let me let me let me think here that’s their santon replacement that’s their that’s their santon replacement yes it so we know that’s one less guy in on him yes you know no and that’s the positive way to look at it but the you know the cynic in me right now is like they’re starting to fly off the board Ross they are you know the cynic and me is like okay that’s that’s a person that I thought we could fall back on wow seriously somebody that I was like okay this is a good backup plan for us and now he’s not he’s just not there anymore I thought it was going to be like an under the radar type of thing but apparently not my goodness Tyler O’Neal to Baltimore everybody 49.5 million for three years I would have smashed that what did he do last year again I know he h a godamn lot of home run I know he was injured for a decent amount but like the home like the pop was insane oh no yeah I mean again like he was only 400 only 41 at bats 113 games and he had 31 home runs that was that’s on Pace for 40 bomb season right there yes he was yes he was but he has never really stayed healthy I mean look at the last few years like he he’s ever actually never played a full 162 no no he hasn’t he never stth honestly like incredible player when he’s on the field and when he is healthy but he’s one of those guys where it’s like he’s just a little too jacked that’s exactly what I going say it’s just too big like like there comes a point in baseball where it’s like the muscle mass is too heavy for the tendons in your body that be stretching A D like he kind of looks like a like a big bruising running back out yeah literally right like and I’m sure that would be great for being running yeah of course bro like he you know he looks like David Montgomery like just going to be like knocking people down but and again for hitting home runs is really really good uh but you know staying healthy not as good so no wow still though like I do think that that is a good signing for um for Baltimore dude of course that replaces uh that replaces santand that’s a lot of Pop right there that guy’s going to go right in the middle of your lineup this is scary guys like you just mentioned like that’s another guy this is this guy more than willly OD Damas willly Damas is more of a kind of dream a little bit like I never really thought like it’s a lot of big brain to bring in a Willie adamus bro yesterday we were talking about okay who’s the most likely guy that the Tonto blue JS are going to sign I said Tyler did and and I thought it just made a ton of sense right you’re talking about a power correct me if from wrong he’s is he a lefty I think he is a righty righty right okay excuse me but still a power bat an outfielder a Canadian boy 29 years old across the board it’s like you know check check check check right for the Toronto Blue Chase I was just thinking that that made a ton of sense and again like you look at the contract here if we’re trying to stay like under budget or like for the budget that that we had had for last year that makes a ton of sense is that 16667 or something like that if you round it up to $50 million 17 you know million do a year type thing that’s perfect that’s a that’s a smash man that is a literal smash well this this is getting this getting wild guys first we lose Willie adamus now we’re losing Tyler O’Neal we already lost obviously Blake sell before those guys flying off the board and look go circling back if if the Red Sox are going in heavy on woto and that we know the Mets are going in heavy we have heard nothing from the Blue Jays is this a good time for the bluej just to go get a signing right now go get a go get a get off the wota train and go get a guy is that is this the right time uh well I don’t know man like I don’t know cuz part of me I don’t want to give up on woto I don’t want to give up on wodo but you do need to be on the phone with Anthony sere at this point as well and a lot of people are kind of specul ating that this is the Anthony sand replacement people are saying that s most likely to play elsewhere at this point which does it does make sense like it definitely does make sense but [ __ ] dude I mean everyone’s saying we’re screw Lu TV is saying we’re screwed um we’re not screwed yet guys we just have less options who are the left who are the outfielders that are left now it’s te it’s Tao and sere right um is any take a look at the free agency place you know um it’s actually a good one with spot rack if you go by 450 people in this chat right now by the way guys if you haven’t already so please hit that like button can we get up to 169 likes if you haven’t already done so please subscribe I think we missed a subscriber right there but massive shout out to the person that did just subscribe if you hit that button your name will pop up literally right here we are trying to get to 30,000 subscribers maybe even by the end of the year that would be nuts uh but you know what everything helps the boys well obviously Juan stto is a guy but um we’re going to write that off right now but the most likely available Tas ganas but we know the Dodgers are looking at tal ganas I would bet my life that he would go back to the Dodgers then you’ve got Michael conforto Mark Hanah Anthony sond D and it starts to fall off a table conforto man because a lot of people in the chat are are liking Michael conforto and again like back in the day I was a Michael lover you know I had him in fantasy a couple of years where like he really popped off like I think I had him in fantasy in that 2020 season oh yeah um yeah again small small season but the guy was really really good and I think I owned him in 2019 too actually uh just across the board like a very talented player back then then injuries injured and it it wasn’t great uh but last year you know kind of bounced back a little bit going to be 32 years old what are we thinking uh I think personally I think his best behind him you know I mean he could he be better than what he’s been doing the last four years sure absolutely I mean he did take a little bit of a jump up in terms of the Ops cuz he had a little bit more um little bit more slugging you know 450 back to like somewhere close to where it was in the past but I mean this guy would just be kind of like a a filler Outfield guy veteran dude I mean better than obviously I would I would think of Joey L peredo right now on our team better than a George Springer on our team and and maybe even a dalon VAR depending on what kind of year he has I I think so dude I I from a batting standpoint absolutely but is this with that depending on all the other moves like you’d have to make another bigger move to really push the needle in my opinion quick shout out to the person that just subscribed right there we don’t see your name right now but shout out and thank you W’s in the chat for joining the community um I like them I don’t love them yeah that’s you know that’s where I’m at right now I like them I don’t love them does this move the needle for me does this win us a bunch more baseball games I don’t think so I think that this is a nice additional piece I think that you still need to go it and you need to get another bat if you get a Michael gorto bring me bring me my pet Alonzo you know bring me the ponzo and the Michael conforto and then right I know that it’s asking but this like this is what we need to be asking for if we want to claw ourselves out of the 74 win dungeon that we’re in right now you need to get a lot more and and that’s why and shout out to thank you who just subscribed that’s why I’m kind of leaning like if we’re not close guys like like Jay’s throw in your big 800 mil off wel to the community shoot W’s in the chat like throw out your $800 million offer and go go sign Corbin Burns or you know a Pete Alonzo or whatever just go make it happen I I know Pete Alonzo is going to be waiting out a little bit longer because he is waiting on the Mets to make their move first so we probably can’t go get that guy right away but go make a big offer go make it happen little little little concerning here guys cuz yeah like like we’re talking about if we’re writing off soda we’re writing off Hernandez it’s just sere and Mark and maybe conforto but the only big impact guy really is santand looking all terms of like an outfielder standpoint what about Eloy Jimenez as a dark throw Eloy him oh I don’t know about that one man that’s that feels like a lost CA yeah this guy’s a lost it’s just it’s one of those yeah like the guy walked into into the MLB and was one of the most highly Ted prospects in a while he was supposed to be up there with Louis Rober and just like dominating Chicago socks injuries killed this dude and now he’s what 28 going to he’s still young I guess but I not not what we need you know what are um I’m trying to figure out what’s wrong with the strikeouts are they’re up there they’re you know I just I don’t know it doesn’t look like he’s really a complete version version of himself he got injured in the year’s past and now he’s washed so guys we’re we’re losing steam pretty quickly we are losing the Outfield market right now uh for the Toronto Blue Jays that’s that’s the latest that’s popping off jeez what do you think about um Christian Walker dude oh I we forgot about that feels like kind of underrated and and I’m still like 100% here for it I love it give me Christian Walker and a heartbeat I if we sign Christian Walker that’s a huge W for me like I know he’s 33 we’ll be turning 34 this upcoming year but look again we’re talking about the window and the window is one to two years Give me the give me the good okay you got a little update massive report right here that needs to be taken with a grain of salt but a massive report right here I don’t know how accurate this is I do not know who you are who are you you look like he’s got 1,800 followers yeah you look like you’re somebody who does radio should I trust you are you important cuz what you’re saying is is something that I like to hear and I want to trust you but I don’t know if I can okay so guys like Nick’s saying take this with a grain of salt and know J’s talk saying let’s hear it take this with a grain of salt this guy’s got 1,000 followers on looks like he’s on like some some cabber I’m assuming that this is a radio station 97.9 clearly like you know part of the Dominican Market or something like that I don’t know all right here it is guys read it off uh translated from Google sources want so to signature sure blue jays who offer the most 750 Mets 700 which is contrary to the prior report of 730 plus from the Mets Boston close to 600 which is also contrary to all the other reports Juan sto’s favorite team is the Red Sox but it’s not about feelings now it’s only about conditions are missing uh details of conditions are missing okay I’m I’m going to again this is all contradictory to everything else up on it right now it’s like he’s apparently gotten stuff related to Dominican players right before however there’s a high chance that this is not accurate I mean Parts I could believe are the fact that the Blue Jays offered 750 I could believe it and that it’s down to details and conditions I could believe that right the reports of everything else is feels incorrect because you’ve had and again no disrespect to this guy no idea who he is more credible guys saying that all four teams have been over 700 that’s the thing that’s the contract we report right there I don’t know we don’t know that is really the thing right now dude um oh you man I’m starting to get like concerned here you know I just H I’ve getting shades of last year where like guys just started flying off and then and it’s like we’re like where are the Blue Jays where are I thought we were going to do something big and stupid where are you you know I there’s still a lot of time left and a lot of valuable players on the market right now you know there’s still your Corbin Burns and there’s still your santon D and there’re still your max freed and Chris there’s a lot there’s still on SoDo for [ __ ] sakes but right right but you know we might end up with a Conor Joe or Rand gritch or or a glabar Torres or you know a Yan Monada yeah Yan Mona you guys heard about that one right we got 473 Legends in the chat if you haven’t already done so please subscribe to the channel your name will pop up right here we broke this down yesterday but the Toronto Blue Jays apparently are very interested in yoan monata uh that for me is a complimentary piece to a complimentary piece type thing yeah like it’s a it’s a nice Dar thr we talked about it a little bit yesterday but look I mean he wasn’t a terrible guy actually was above average player last year with a seven or 1 17 Ops plus granted he only had 40 appats the year prior you know 730 Ops and again only had 3 uh 34 at bats but if you wanted to take a shot in the with again like you saying you know as a complimentary piece then I’d be all for it um now the timing of this rumor coming out is very sad because like let’s say they signed him right now I’d be like oh God like this doesn’t feel that good that we’re I mean look you could still sign this guy and then go on and sign a bigger player but it would just make me a little bit scared I don’t know why cuz I still would want him on the team but but it just based on what Ross Atkins has done in the past I just feel like that would be another Justin Turner ikf situation you know I’m saying yeah exactly right like that’s one of those things where like and again no one’s looking at yoan Mona right now like well actually maybe I’m wrong I didn’t think anyone was really looking at Tyler O’Neal right now and then you know Baltimore Orioles decided to do the the intelligent thing and and scoop up a guy for what honestly I think is a pretty good contract um you know what did I say off the top of this thing if if you’re a team not in on Juan sto go out and get these guys they did it Baltimore you know congratulations to you guys tip the cap um but probably no one’s looking at yoan monata that to me kind of feels like a early January type of signing that you exactly a minor like borderline minor league like seriously like I don’t think we need to do this right now you know I I agree I agree I’m just looking for uh a little bit more oh man I don’t know no right now there’s really no oh what is this what is this what is this uh oh okay let me let me go find this I just found a little thing about Wan soda let me let me go find this is uh I like briefly read it really quickly but it is involving to do with the adamus signing and how the dominoes are all falling so let me bring let me let me bring this up oh guys hit that subscribe button see I love streams like this where I’m we just like we’re trying to help bring the material to you and we discuss right cuz there’s a lot of crap going on out there you know there is a lot of crap going on right there man just give me like you know what just give me want SoDo dude yeah it’s easy like can you just do it please like give me something nice man I know he’s probably not going to come here guys I know that bottle probably never going to get open with wano’s name on it I know I know I know but like just give me something nice okay here’s a little something our boy Enrique roas from ESPN well over 300,000 followers on Twitter so you know what that means credible credible credible right of course uh he’s saying through Google translate shout out to Google Translate even though it’s about it’s about aamus guys even though the Giants were not one of the clubs fighting for Wan sto the signing of Adams parenthesis including the amount of the contract and preses could suggest that the industry already has a general idea of so immediate future so take take that the grain of assault why I let’s let’s speculate why would that why would that so he’s he’s suggesting that the that the contract amount for adamus is is suggesting that contract including the contract amount and the fact that he was signed is suggesting that the industry knows where Wan stto could be going like is it because like well let’s think about it like who was who was also offering Adama contract the Mets right sure the Mets were offering a contract so maybe that they’re more okay with letting Adamas go is at the fact that they’re feeling really confident about Juan stto it’s not impossible I guess um I I think maybe well yeah potentially right I think that that is a little bit of a stretch for me um but I do think that all of these things are Loosely connected and um you know maybe adamus was maybe adamus was just like honestly getting a lot more attention from the San Francisco Giants right that’s what I was saying off the top you know if you’re one of those squads on the outside of the soda swoop Stakes looking in um then play the card of we’re just fully in on you right like make the guy feel special and I’m sure that that’s what they did with Will Damas whereas if you’re Steve Cohen like you don’t have the bandwidth to be able to make that guy feel special because at the end of the day like if woto calls you’re dropping everything and you’re you know you’re flying to that guy right if you’re even mid meeting with Willie Damas it’s like dude got a run so I mean I think that that’s honestly the the biggest takeaway that I have from this is that they could just give him more of their time than any of those other teams could yeah no absolutely so that’s a little that’s a little nugget there you know thought we’d throw that in there right now also shout out to the almost 500 people here on a Saturday evening enjoying some Blue Jays rumors Soo watch baby we were hoping that we’d get a little bit of news and uh yeah I mean we got that Tyler O’Neal nugget right there we’re waiting on some more stuff would not be surprised if more stuff breaks this evening while we’re waiting guys cuz we brought this up a little bit earlier about an hour and a little bit into the stream I think now is a good time we have our mailbag and we like to read some of your questions you guys have a lot of questions and we always see them in the chat but the chat nowadays with all this frenzy goes real quick so we’re like you know what we want you guys to submit your questions into our mailbag down below into the Google form and we’ll pull them up and read them on screen there’s one question I wanted to start with and it it was a massive it wasn’t even like a question it was more of like a theory a hypothesis of how to like fix this ball team that doesn’t involve Wan sto and I’ve been seeing it for a while and I’m like how do I even fit this into my like Adobe Illustrator I can’t even do it but uh I thought you know what it’s a nice conversation and we were kind of talking about it off camera like let’s bring it on camera a little bit so this one comes from Alex Garcia right here Alex Garcia whoops that kind of fell down also before you do that just a master sheded here to Bennett who’s in the chat uh Bennett tweets out a lot of stuff in regards to the Toronto Blue Jays I’ve been following along with you on Twitter Bennett we did just see that report dude we just we just talked about that actually oh yeah and apparently that reporter is the one who broke the Teo deal so I’m I’m assuming that you’re referring to the T Oscar deal last year with the Dodgers I would imagine or is it the trade potentially I’m not sure yeah but one of the Teo deals is is that guy that that broke the stuff there saying that Tonto blue J are at 750 and then you know he feelings are not a big thing for him right now uh so thank you very much for coming in here and sharing that with us guys if you haven’t already done so then hop on to uh I guess it’s called X now and follow Bennett also follow us too folks uh if you’re not already doing so we’re tweeting out pretty regularly these days and uh would love to make some more new friends on there absolutely so yeah shout out to everybody let’s give a big shout out to Alex Garcia too right here with this very elaborate question and I love it okay so let me read it out for y’all if you’ve got 750 million for stto Alex is saying do this instead sign vat for 350 over 10 years sign Burns for 190 over 6 years I do think Burns maybe it a little bit more depending on the market but that’s your theory signed Tyler O’Neal for 48 million three years huh that’s kind of outdated now that was really quick e but let’s say you sign another dude for that amount sign santon D for over 100 million over four to five years sign Kenley Jensen for 32 million over two years on the end he goes through the lineup the lineup would obviously look amazing assuming you know Tyler O’Neal was still on the board bashad Horwitz Vlad s Neil Springer Kirk VAR Clement that’s a winning lineup he’s basically saying take all that money and sign a bunch of other guys right right and then he says then make some trades for Bullpen and there you go World Series bound baby huge shout out to you guys been watching guys since 2022 I’m a Mexican blue Chase fan living in Toronto so thank you for your effort and contact guys Kirk is the goat that’s right baby Kirk is the go thank you Alex but that’s the theory why would we spend and a lot of people say this actually a lot of people bring this up all the time why are you spending 750 million for SoDo when you can just spread that money out on these guys now listen uh on the surface that makes a lot of sense like seriously right like you take that money and you go oh [ __ ] well we get all of these guys for the price of one right you know is wodo better than all of those guys no no probably not from a war standpoint and just you know impact on team I don’t think so but you got to factor in the average annual value that’s one that’s number one you got to factor in that okay you’d be paying wodo $50 million a year well now you’re paying Corbin Burns let’s say you’re paying him 35 I think he said extend Guerrero there you’re paying Guerrero another 35 I think he said sign santon there there you’re paying him 20 you know he he was saying sign O’Neal uh but let’s just say you signed somebody else you’re paying that guy 17 we know that a fact now cuz that’s just what he got let’s say you traded for say Suzuki or something like that they going to pay for that right exactly you’re looking at roughly you know double if not like one and a half times from an average annual value standpoint what soda would be getting so you’re adding on probably 100 to $130 million a year onto your payroll which is a lot and that’s going to way push them over the luxury tax so that’s one reason why and then the second reason why and I want to hear your thoughts on this too the second reason why is it’s really hard to convince six or seven different dudes to all come here you know like yes like like of course that makes sense but you know it’s it’s probably a lot easier to convince one guy than seven different guys all at the same time that you know you got to come over here yeah like as you know I’m I’m a big player of uh MLB the show and Madden and all these kind of video games and in those games you can do it you can do it you can convince anybody even if they and I love this in Madden too even if they don’t want to come play for you well I’ll just pay a little bit more then you’ll come play for me and it’s video game money I don’t care right like I just you you’ll come so for me like yeah like that is very unrealistic to get all those guys and also think of this too like the $750 million you have 15 years to spend that whereas those guys you’re spending that faster so like L that’s even more pressure on the front office right so like that’s if you don’t win in the next two years you just burned millions of dollars for what right right so yeah it’s an interesting Theory but I that’s why I wanted to discuss it and bring up that question because in in theory it makes sense if you just look at the end dollar amount but you look at the logistics and how that money is being distributed and also the human element factor of convincing everybody to come join a 74 win team in Canada you know it’s it’s kind of tough that’s the thing so but very much appreciate the question dude ultimately like if it was that simple like go yeah I mean hell yeah you know if you told me like Burns blatty extension sand Deere O’Neal various others or stto then of course I’m taking all of those other guys even though woto is an incredible Talent folks absolutely we do have another uh question in here I’m just going to clear out our little thing here this one actually is on the same topic of a how do we get this team back into winning also uh I know that we’ve been mainly taking questions from the mailbag but I like this one in here from just new sham so while you’re putting that in I’ll just answer this um he’s asking would we be able to trade spring if we land sto to offset the salary that’s an interesting thought um you know because if you are paying that much money for w sto it’s like you’re going to you’re going to be strapped for cash and you know also clearly he’s going to be taking up a outfield spot right the big problem is there uh sorry what was your name again just you left the chat right there Justin um is oops oh sorry guys I was I was typing I was typing into the thing the big problem is there Justin that not a lot of people are going to want to take on that money for George spranger like seriously at the end of the day like Toronto Blue Jays are going to sell you George Springer like he’s the guy that we signed four years ago but he’s just not it’s not the same you know and I’ll be honest I don’t really want that guy in the top five of our lineup unless of course he bounces back which in complete transparency I don’t think he’s going to do I think that you’d be able to offload some of the contract maybe um but you’d still probably have to end up paying for like 75% of it and at that point it’s like well like if if we’re only saving 25% of the contract maybe we just keep them right yeah exactly and you know think about Nolan arado the way to convince other teams to also take on maybe that contract is to send them prospects and do we really want to be unloading Prospect bullets on getting rid of Springer or getting Bullpen guys right like you could probably improve the team much better if you unloaded those bullets on Bullpen guys or other areas of your team so yeah I I it’s one of those things you just got to bite the bullet and hopefully you found a way to pay for that like to put it in perspective right now uh apparently I saw an update uh today from the St Louis Cardinals and they were it was talking about the arado stuff and they were saying like hardly anyone’s interested at all uh you know from a monetary standpoint and like I’ll be honest like if I had to pick one or the other I think I I would choose aado over Springer for the remainder of of their careers um and I also saw an update from Chicago Cubs in regards to Cody Bellinger there’s not a whole lot of like interest in that one either so like I’m just like if those guys can’t get moved you’re going to have a really hard time moving George like I I I can’t imagine another player out there that’s getting paid the amount that Springer’s getting paid that is performing the amount that or performing like him it’s like a bias seriously yeah it’s like a Javier bias worse wor yeah like he’s performing way worse and he’s getting paid a lot more for a lot longer so yeah and like would you ever even consider no no I mean even if like even if you paid for all of it I if you paid for all of it I’d have to roster this guy I don’t want to roster him no like like I I would 100% prefer to have Joey LFO or you know the anyone else on my team other than jaier b yeah a real thing oh also Anthony Randon R there is there is definitely other guys out there that that are that are worse there um you know like Randon I mean does Patrick Corbin still make money in the ml he’s a free agent now I think he’s a free agent yeah I think it’s all over I think so that seems like a blue J Target right there oh God no uh no but so that was a great question there Justin uh I’m sure the Blue Jays would want to do that but just one of those things that be very tough to find anybody interested in in taking that on yeah and end the day like like Jay talk saying George batting 789 that’s fine I mean it’s going to be what it is bat him yeah bat him down there maybe can steal a couple bases get up for the top of the lineup and see what he can do right uh this one is coming in from our mailbag uh shout out to Andrew also sh to real quickly Eck 2020 saying random do the white socks stay in Chicago I think they stay for now I think they stay for now dude but like if they keep doing what they’re doing like just like seriously get out like you already got a team in Chicago send them over to Montreal they’ll I mean you can’t get any worse yeah why not right like so for now if they continue being bad for like another five years then that conversation will probably start to happen uh this one coming in from our mailbag again send your questions down in the description there’s a link there uh this one comes in from Andrew saying what do you need to see to convince you this is not going to be a last place AL East team going to 202 2025 excuse me so not even just playoffs just not last place so Rays what is it going to take for the Blue Jays to SC win more games than the Tampa Bay Rays this upcoming season you know answer in the chat as well guys I’m very curious to hear what you guys have to say about that too um 74 wins last year uh there’s so many different things if you’re just talking from a front office standpoint um like they gota they got to add some more hitters they really really do like I think the pitching or it can be good enough to not be a last place team you still need some things to go right there but we got to score more runs we got to we can’t be winning ball games scoring one or two runs a game like you got to find a way to do that and and whether that be you know by signing a santand or something like that you know that’s that’s number one um I think that we also I need to see some updates uh some some spring training updates or some winter updates that b bashet is healthy and and looking good too not just you know you know like it’s B bashet he’s to run the ball it’s okay no like I I want to see this guy looking [ __ ] motivated I want to see him looking like good uh because we’re going to need him right we’re really going to need him I don’t have a whole lot of faith in a bounce back from George Springer but but maybe there could be one in there from Bo Bash and that’s going to be critical to not be a last place Squad um probably like that might take you out of last like if you got a bashet if you got a bashet bounceback and then also sign santon there I think that would be enough yeah that’s like adding two players right there yeah like to get out of last place um yeah so maybe that would be all I need to see to get out of we’re still not good but like we we know would be last that was actually I’m glad you said it but that was actually going to be one of my like sneaky like things we’re haven’t even talked about yet cuz it’s like bashet wasn’t playing really he wasn’t playing for the second half and then when he was playing it’s like this isn’t bashet this is like uh this is like a a sving serving we genuinely like I kept I I remember we kept saying and the chat kept saying too it’s like we didn’t even notice when he was in the lineup or wasn’t in the lineup actually I preferred him not in the lineup how bad he was you know what I mean like that was a real thing yeah yeah like so for me it’s that I was also going to say on the offens on the offensive side excuse me hitting more home runs we need to hit more home run next year whether I don’t care how you do it but damn like we saw how important that is for winning ball games and then of course fixing the bullpen so I need to see them like add a little bit of Bullpen help and then just get a little bit more power offensively and I think we won’t be L agreed yeah quick shout it here to Deep dive Jays with the donos how confident are you that Jays are going to get one of the top pitchers that’s a great transition actually we haven’t talked about one of the top pitchers in a while right now but let me take a look and see if there’s anything going on with the Corbin Burns or the max Freeds of the world um it was revealed like a couple days prior that the Blue Jays have recently met with Corbin Burns one on one that is a nice update to see I’m very excited about that he is going to cost $250 million or something like that um currently it doesn’t look like there’s anything new on him I think a lot of people are again like focused on the uh the woto stuff but I mean there there was that thing about Ken Roso we said it way earlier way earlier in the live stream so if you’re just coming in now and you missed it I mean Ken Rosenthal gave an update that uh Burns may not want to join the Blue Jays like why though and that is the most like laziest disrespectful backhanded journalism I think I’ve read to this date like you know he’s he’s he’s going into detail about the Mets and the Yankees you know their intentions right um you know if if if the Mets land Soo then the Yankees might want to seek um a boost of their offense rather than add to rotation and then Burns might not want to join the blue jay that means Orioles and Red Sox and and Giants could be in on him it’s like what the hell okay listen like you can feel that way but like give me a reason what’s the reason you know what I mean like is it cuz we’re not good is it cuz he doesn’t like Canada is it because we don’t we’re not going to give him enough money like what is cuz like we’re clearly willing to give enough money yeah like like what’s like you got to explain yourself if you’re just going to outright be like oh yeah he probably doesn’t want to come back here that’s just pure speculation yeah and like honestly if I am a pitcher maybe I don’t know cuz I obviously I would want a good offense around me but like if I’m a pitcher you know and I enjoy the camaraderie of other great pitchers in the league like the Blue Jays are a decent place to land like you imagine showing up every day with Gosman BOS Basset you know guys like Bowen Francis like that’s like you know that’s a deep pitching rotation like if you value just like that in $250 million then the Blue Jays are not a bad landing spot man like at all I’m seeing a lot of stuff about the AL East right now in terms of these uh the pitchure market and everything like that and that’s like that is what I’ve heard like I was reading about the max freed sweep Stakes being very AL East s you know it’s like right now the top three contenders for Max freed are the Toronto Blue Jays they’re the Yankees and they’re the Boston Red Sox right so like that’s good in a sense but also not great because well if we miss out on him do I really want him going to the Yankees no do I really want to go to the Red Sox no especially if one of those teams ends up nagging W stto too no thank you mhm but but I guess to Ken rosenthal’s Point like if stto does end up going to the Mets then the Yankees are going to have to be pretty desperate for some offense that might go there where the Blue Jays like yeah yeah you got to battle out probably the Orioles and the Red Sox who have also just missed out on some pitching you got to go battle and you got to win and that’s like a big swing that’s going to be a major swing in the AL East okay uh head over to our Twitter right now shout out once again to Bennett right there for uh for sending us this he DMD us uh the credit that uh what how do you even say this guy’s name Moises Fabian got Moises Fabian uh so this is John Haymon actually crediting this guy for getting the T Oscar deal done with the Dodgers right so that’s the thing back in 2024 or uh January 2024 so this past year when he signed with the Dodgers he got something right now that doesn’t mean that he’s right about the W soda sweep Stakes or anything like that you know clearly a very different thing MH but he is he’s got something on his resume at least okay well let’s pull let’s pull it up again just to remind everybody if you were just tuning in and you missed this one out you got this guy Moses that were just talking about saying nailed the nailed the Dodgers and Tao deal nailed the Tao and Dodgers deal uh saying sources woto signature blue jays who offer the most 750 met 700 now when he says W soda signature is this coming from W soda what does that mean what is he talking about okay sorry so he says sources Juan sto signature another colon like blue jay who offer the that feels like that could just be like a Google translate era a Google translate but but also you see it right here right FMA Deano what does that mean guys does anyone speak Spanish is this is this what this mean someone let us know but he’s saying blue jays who offer the most 750 Mets 700 it’s interesting that also too like who’s leaking all these numbers you know what I’m saying like actually think of it logically like is Scott Boris just like spewing these numbers cuz like who who who knows these numbers Soto Boris maybe those two other guys are still at the table over there right like I’m talking maybe you know maybe like these guys but like why are they spewing all these are they are maybe that’s part of their plan they drive at the price I don’t know but like I don’t know man it’s interesting and that’s I do always wonder like who are these act like you know okay this guy’s coming out he’s got some stuff right who’s who’s your Source right like who is who is your Source in this thing why are and why are they coming in here why are they contradicting what we heard earlier today from I think it was Mike Rodriguez saying well Mets are actually at 7:30 right that’s what we heard earlier today that’s what we heard earlier and you and this was this was kind of I don’t want to say more reputable but it felt like more people were kind of hopping on this train saying yeah Mets have offered a deal of 7:30 which which they were then reporting is the highest offer from any team right now but then we’re hearing it from this guy who again did get the teoscar deal right a year ago so clearly know something about Dominican players in general and what’s going on with them but this is clearly you know going against what Mike Rodriguez reported earlier today saying the Mets have the highest offer cuz Blue Jays are at 750 here which is more than anyone cuz you say Mets at least or if not more than 730 but that’s only 700 maybe they’re they’re getting their information at different times I don’t know maybe there was like a I don’t know an opt out or something in that and not including I don’t really know but either way like if this is the only thing we’ve heard today about the Blue Jays if this is true hell yeah man oh Fu listen you were saying it’s like oh we got to hear something about the Toronto Blue Jays right to get us you know get us back in the race year get a little bit of hope this is hey look I Dro I Dro back that 10% in my uh going to the Blue Jays it’s up to 11 you know it give me a little Smit closer it’s something you know what I mean like we’re not we’re still not out of it we haven’t heard anything definitively saying that Toronto Blue Jays are out of this race or anything like that in fact everybody keeps saying it’s like no like we’re still in this thing he’s still deciding it’s coming down to the wire right they are competitive with their offers and this is this also isn’t the first time either that we’ve heard that the Toronto Blue Jays are either going to make the highest offer or currently have the highest offer that’s not a new thing right like this is the first time that we’ve heard an actual number being $750 million but we we continuously hear that the Toronto Blue Jays are going to do something big and stupid and that they’re going to go and they’re going to give the most money you know potentially by any bidder out there and it could be happening like tomorrow like this is probably in my I got a feeling it’s going to happen tomorrow like in my opinion I think this is where we’re going to get to those final offers and then the decision is just going to have to happen you think he’s going to sleep on it I think he’s going to sleep on it dude like I want this to happen now you know I really want this to happen right now everybody I know though this post only says that Jay’s offered the most okay yeah all right so that’s kind of what I just prefer I was asking for Google Translates and stuff like that so just they offer the most that’s it you we offered the most we’re thinking it’s 750 that’s a lot I gotta go uh get some water and take a minor washroom break everybody but there’s 505 people in this chat right now if you haven’t already done so hit that like smash the Subscribe button and join the community regardless of of when this happens whether it be tonight tomorrow Monday we are going to be here for it folks following along with every update as it comes so if you’re enjoying the content if you’re enjoying the commentary then please join the community your name will pop up right here yes yes and we recently just we recently just hit 27,000 subscribers guys and it took us a while we have a little um for those ogs here we have a little like uh I guess graph it’s like a little meter in on our fridge and we’ve had it for literally 5 years now uh of every time we hit a new Milestone we just finally updated it so we appreciate you guys help us get to 28,000 we appreciate also quick shout out to the Dono here coming in from Daniela say saying I just want the Pain to End Daniela me and you same same okay I want the Pain to End like I’m at the point now like I get it from a Content standpoint it’s really interesting to like watch and and see all the rumors fly around about Wan sto but honestly from a person who just wants to have a good baseball team like can we just pick a lane either give him all the money in the world or don’t and let’s go and move on to other guys that’s what I’m saying right I I’m going to answer a mail question here from you guys this one’s coming in from Jesse Clayton shout out to Jesse saying on the topic of Juan stto if we get SoDo how fast does Vlad get a deal hm that’s interesting so if we get stto how fast does Vlad get a deal well let’s think of it this way woto comes over the Jay’s $800 million because that’s what it’s going to have to be at this point literally like maybe 775 I don’t know he comes over does Rogers Communication and does Ross Atkins then turn to vlat and go okay you saw how much wano got because it feels like he was waiting to see what he would get here’s what we’re going to offer you and it all comes down to whether they’re going to offer him a respectful offer because if you think about next free agency who’s the next Wan stto who’s the next sh Otani and Aaron judge meaning who’s the number one guy that’s going to be on the free agent Market it’s going to be Vladimir Guerrero Jr so and if you look at like the way that Juan sto’s Market has developed we were thinking Juan sto was going to maybe maybe touch 600 million like kind of at the end of the season like oh like maybe he’ll touch 600 but that’s kind of a lot dude could be touching 800 million that’s $200 million more dollars than we expected so if we’re all thinking vlat is a 350 kind of guy right now who’s to say that he’s not a $500 million guy by next free agency so I think Vladimir gr J’s Camp knows that and if they’re willing to play the free agent Market game unless Ross Atkins is willing to approach vat and go here’s $500 million right now we got one of your best buddies let’s play baseball for the next 15 years together then it’s not going to happen so how fast does a Vlad deal get done I don’t think they’re going to do that they’re going to offer that $500 million so I truly think that it’s not going to be fast at all it’s going to be until next winter I’m I’m slowly every day leaning more towards vlat waiting until next winter cuz we’re seeing how the last two off Seasons how insane the free agent Market is right now for these young talented ball players like vlat is going to be 26 maybe no he’s going be 27 when he’s a free agent so one year older than Juan stto and the age plays a huge factor in it as well as the production that he’s been putting up so yeah to answer your question Jesse probably even if we get woto it probably still ain’t going to happen unless unless vlad’s like you know what screw it I am going to sign because you do got Wan stto and I do want to play with him for the rest of my career we’ll see we’ll see how it happens right what do you think what are your thoughts on that Nick of the whole how fast does vlat get to uh well how fast do we sign vlat if we get Juan stto I’m GNA also use the wash yeah yeah know this is a good opportunity right now there’s a a minor lull right now in the uh the free agent rumors and reports I’ve always kind of put it this way folks like if Juan sto let’s just say to make to make the numbers easy okay let’s just say that Juan sto gets $100 million he’s not he’s going to get a lot more than that but let’s just say that he gets $100 million well Vladimir Guerrero Jr I mean he’s going to be looking at that and going okay he got a 100 am I half as good as Juan sto yeah am I 2/3 as good as woto I think so right you you can kind of keep pushing that needle right where it’s like well am I 80% of Wan stoto maybe well if that’s the case then why do why don’t I get $8 million and then just take those numbers and you know put them to the numbers that we’re dealing with with right so if Wan sod’s at 700 well what’s 80% of 700 a lot more than $500 million right like that’s legitimately what it would be like so um I I also think that you know it would not Happ happen very quickly but uh yeah that it would um just because of the just because of the implications that Soto’s contract would have on on not only just the market in general but Vladimir Guerrero Jr as well um checking in on Twitter right now everybody so far nothing major reporting recently oh there’s just a shirtless guy singing right there that’s good Twitter Twitter orx is insane that it’s a wild Place e it really is just a wild place in general mhm C some a little bit of scotch I was like you know what it’s Saturday night I’m enjoying the camaraderie here of the 500 of y’all in the chat right now 100% we’re just waiting right now to get a little bit more little more juice on the stream I see a lot of you guys have been submitting your questions I’m going to actually take a read here what are these all new questions oh this is a fun one we talked about George Springer already I think this was this will be pretty quick one uh but why not bring it up why not bring it up guys it’s about George Springer and about getting rid of him I feel like uh anytime we talk about George Springer it’s never about nowadays will he bounce back will he be better it’s always how can we get rid of this guy you know just imagine like if we do sign woto like eventually that will come too you know that’s going to come too it would come as well right eventually there would come a time where people would be like can we get rid of you know 38-year-old wano we’re stuck with him hopefully we already at won you know three World Series and and we’re like you know what just keep him here we we want him to finish his career off with with the Toronto Blue Jays this one comes in from Jacob will Springer be traded this trade deadline no man no he will not be traded because for all the reasons what we talked about also like he has another year on his contract I think like there could be a reality in the final year of his contract if he were to be getting off to a hot start then you could trade him you be like oh look you know like it’s a hot one-year guy he’s off your plate by the end of the year you’re good no trade coming at all anytime soon y’all anytime soon shout out to John Lex for the Dono saying Blue Jays offer to stto is 750 yeah let’s flash it up here while we’re waiting for some more news I’m assuming you saw this tweet right here which this is the guy who broke the teoscar Hernandez stuff back early this January going to the Dodgers he broke it well before it came out publicly and he’s saying that the Blue Jays offered 750 which is the most huge that is a lot that is definitely a lot man like I I I hope that he’s accurate I hope that it’s true shout out and thank you to the person that just subscribed right there W’s in the chat like we said 500 individuals right there who was it it was uh oh I just missed it no I just missed it PJ shout out to PJ right there W’s in the chat for joining the community if you subscribe your name will pop up right there but again like I really do hope hope that what is being reported is accurate right now that’s the first like big report that we’ve seen today about the Toronto Blue JS we’ve been hearing a lot about the New York Mets a lot about you know the Boston Red Sox as well like it feels like it’s down to those three teams you know like is that is that like I feel like we can’t rule out the Yankees but I I just haven’t been hearing a whole lot about them well the only thing we have heard is that they’re not one number one or not number two Ro right so I mean I think it is like Red Sox and blue JS are desperate to turn their ship around seriously and Mets are just desperate for w sto yeah of course right Mets want to have the uh you know like Mets want to be able to to get over the hump and Wan sto gets over the hump for them there’s no denying absolutely uh while we wait a little bit here now’s a good time to give another shout out to the sponsor of this podcast whoa time for a quick shout out to the sponsor of this video Hy your picks and knock it out of the park with bway scan the Q code down below to join the action only available in Ontario must be 19 years of older to participate please play responsibly now everyone back to the content shout out to W for being absolutely phenomenal it is the place to go if you have any interest at all in sports betting big Sunday football happening tomorrow so uh if you’re interested in betting at all then that is going to be the place to do it folks that is the place to do it uh let’s Circle back a little bit uh talk about t O’Neal I was just looking on Twitter and a lot of people are very upset blue jay fans he didn’t want to come to Toronto now is it that or we’re just not offering the contract I don’t know man like we like I didn’t hear anything like we were always just kind of speculating that O’Neal would have made a lot of sense for the Toronto Blue Chas which I mean I still think is accurate here uh but we never actually heard any definitive report that oh Toronto is in fact engaging in conversations with Tyler O’Neal like Ross Atkins is looking at him we’ve heard stuff about santon Deere right a couple couple days ago was it a week ago I don’t know a little while ago it came out that they badly covet Anthony Sansan and you’d imagine well okay if they badly covered Anthony sere then not that different from Tyler O’Neal no right like yeah he was healthy last year I guess that’s the biggest difference but if you badly covered him you probably want to be calling Tyler O’Neal as well yeah um I would have liked to have heard more and uh yeah I’m kind of upset that I am upset that that again like we weren’t in that conversation more yeah like my whole impression that of the Blue Jays off season is that they were going to cast a big net and just see what they got and you think that let’s just cover the entire power Outfield hitting net you know we and I guess we we maybe we did and we didn’t offer him what he wanted and he was like you know what the Baltimore Orioles are G me exactly what they want and they’re winning teams let’s go there also shout out to Willard uh tall Cree shout out W’s in the chat man and he’s saying Jay’s 15 times 50 plus 50 million signing bonus that would be the 800 million right there hey can you imagine a 50 million signing bonus that’s $100 million this this guy is just making like that like it’s just boom like it’s just there it’s your Christmas bonus right oh my God I want a Christmas it’s insane man like he is it it really is record-breaking and changing and like it’s now you know baseball has shifted right it was always like okay well if you’re a star player you get $300 million right and now if you’re a star player like I don’t know is it is it 500 is it 600 like how much how much goddamn millions of dollars can we be giving out here guys that’s that’s my whole point with the vlat thing why he’s talk it’s cuz it’s like well why the hell would I sign unless you’re literally going to send me $500 million right now like right now then I then then no like I’m not going to do it right like if if he if they sent a if the if the Ross Atkins and the mark shap pyro sent a disrespectful offer of like see 300 million is disrespectful now that’s like your floor you got to that’s the thing you need to give him enough to make it worth his while to no longer take the risk of playing next year CU there is obviously a risk for Guerrero in playing his final year he could play like [ __ ] he could get injured those are the two big things right and if you do either one of those things well sorry you’re not going to get paid as much money as as you initially thought and realistically the only way that you actually get something close to $500 million is if you finish in the top three in MVP next year yeah you know cuz even like even if you have a good year but you you know you finish with like a 880 Ops 450 maybe maybe you know what I mean it’s not 500 anymore right like you got to give him a reason you got to give him enough money so as the risk outweigh or yeah the risk outweighs the reward at that point yeah uh actually this this uh this a topic that was brought up here in the chat people I know it was a joke but someone was saying like Joey lero greater than Tyler O’Neal uh and I can’t tell if you’re being serious but that’s obviously a joke to me because uh we have not seen anything I wanted to go down rabbit hole we got we got some time here looking at you we’re looking at all these other players what about the Toronto Blue Jays players right now like looking at their current Outfield like right now you got George Springer Dalton VAR those are the locks right now then who the hell else do you have like let’s say they don’t actually go out and get an outfielder

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