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the Ryan Rush show is brought to you by Vision homes if you’re looking to build a home in North Central West Virginia visit ask Vision homes.com Vision homes building you a house you’re proud to call home and don’t forget to subscribe to the Ryan and Rush show but don’t take our word for it take coach neans hi this is coach St nean and you’re watching the Ryan and Rush show Please Subscribe and we welcome you in to this Sunday edition of the Ryan and Rush show your source for West Virginia Big 12 in college sports in 10 minutes or less however this is an emergency episode just like yesterday Ryan and this episode may go beyond 10 minutes that is because it’s official Neil Brown will be relieved of his duties as head football coach here in West Virginia six years under Neil Brown and it seemed like West Virginia could never break through and return to its state of Glory Ryan we’ve been on this I would say for the past month maybe six weeks ever since those kind of circus of comments came out after the Iowa State game um I will say Ryan will obviously break this down and there’ll be plenty of time as more details come out um this week to break this down further uh we don’t know the financial situation yet in terms of the payout what’s been negotiated the structure of that payout because of course Neil Brown may want to go to UMass or some other type of job so he may be willing to take a little less money there I will say it came out a little bit today but I do agree with this I do think Neil um pardon me Ren Baker and Gordon G if they could they didn’t want to fire Neil Brown but because of public pressure public outcry the wolf pack if we even want to go that far because of the passion behind the West Virginia fans they knew they had to do this so it still shows that us fans we do hold a lot of power to you know we are the consumers of this product so West Virginia Mountain your nation got what they wanted and Ryan Neil Brown is fired he yeah he is and first off I I I think we we need to wish Neil the best of luck too uh nobody dislikes Neil it just did not work out here he didn’t win enough football games and he he he he ran a program as the best he could but it just wasn’t good enough and this was a business decision 37 and 35 25 and 28 in League games and that’s just not good enough for this story program so wish Neil the best of luck I’ll be pulling for him wherever he goes whether it’s you mass or another job uh but yeah you you’re absolutely right I my main takeaways with them moving this quickly and and I do agree that um Ren and Gordon G wanted to keep him I I think we all to a certain degree wanted to keep Neil at until it became a point where dude this isn’t going to work out we we know where we’re going we’re we’re stuck in the mud we’re not winning any big games and and it’s just time for change in leadership in a in a new voice and New Direction in this program so um but back to my point this decision this quick are are signals to me money isn’t an issue money doesn’t matter to a certain degree they’re gonna throw however much money they need to throw at whoever they believe is the best candidate that will get this program to where it should be eight and four easily every single year nine and three I is is probably where we we should expect to be with the chance to go 10- two 11 and one win the conference get to a college football playoff with the new bracket if you have a crazy year where you have a bunch of injuries maybe like a seven and five or six and six but not what we’ve been over the last six years fighting tooth and nail just to get to six and six six and six should be once out of every seven eight years where we just have a crazy plague of injuries eight and four nine and three is where this program should be so there you brought up the financial side of it and we said this yesterday on the show after that blowout of the Texas Tech game and maybe that blowout was a really good thing when said and done Ryan because maybe if the score wasn’t that lopsided recent bias memory would have kicked in and we’d still be dealing with with Coach Neil Brown so sometimes you got to take it on the chin right to reset yourself to move forward but anyway as we were talking about on the show yesterday we kind of asked a question if if West Virginia can’t afford we’ll call it A10 million buyout because it’s around that do they deserve to be a Power Force school and clearly they showed that’s not the issue there and that’s a good thing and they move on and I’m glad that they were willing to show that and and I’m glad that they were flexing their wallet couple other comments came in and people have been talking about it with our athletic budget um and that they’re in underwater right now and the university is in a little bit of trouble uh the matter however you can have private you know boosters step in that that’s not counting that is you know Ken Kendrick might be behind this we don’t know assuming you know he probably is with you know being one of the best boosters can come in and handle this payout himself that has nothing to do with the athletic department and their you know Revenue that they bring in at the same time too football is the money maker sport the football program is usually making the money to pay for the rest of Athletics uh your athletic you know lacrosse soccer all that sort of things we love those teams we support them they’re not bringing in any money maybe men’s basketball brings in money too but those are usually your only two programs but it’s definitely LED you know behind football and everyone knows the term you need to spend money to make money you can’t have these fans we I talked about at the start of the show Mountain your nation was not behind Neil Brown anymore it was gone it was over with some efforts were kind of cheesy you know some weren’t but be we were able to band together and get them out of there and our athletic director and our president listen so you know I know people are concerned about the the the financial state of the athletic program that’ll get figured out whether the state has to step in whether whatever has to get done there but you had to show you know an effort to start fresh to start new so that you don’t get left behind in a new era of you know conferences merging together under networks you know there’s a lot of money that could have been missed out if you kept Neil Brown and you didn’t have the you know Buy in from the fans so going back to what I was saying you got to spend money to make money and get the athletic budget back to where it needs to go this had to be done yeah and you want to fix a deficit go go to March Madness advance in the tournament and then in the fall go to Dallas win the Big 12 title get to a college football playoff host a college football playoff game that’s how you make money winning makes money so you’re not going to just be able to half ass this and kind of Band-Aid it and and and and and fix a deficit so the deficit is what it is that doesn’t matter that what matters is getting this football program The Money Maker for this for this athletics department for the University if for for the whole state I mean the economy does better it’s proven the economy does better when West Virginia football and basketball are rolling more people come to the games they spend more money at the restaurants the local businesses it’s good for everybody so this had to be done um everybody was emotionally out checked out uh we we we talked about it as divided and not even really divided just anger and just frustration as I can ever remember this fan base over these last six six plus weeks uh after it became apparent that Neil was not the guy to lead this program but a new day is here um and it’s it’s evident they’re they’re they’re going to spend money on this new coach there’s there’s no there’s no way around it man we are in the era of you never know when conference expansion is going to move next and if you’re not relevant if you’re going six and six every year five and seven seven and five your brand takes a hit and you may be left behind I mean that’s the last thing we we’ve already been on the wrong side and then then now the right side with the big 12 uh expansion uh I guess our brand wasn’t big enough 10 years ago to go to the ACC or SEC whatever uh how many years ago it was but then our brand was big enough to come to the Big 12 and we’ve been a good fit you never know when the next sho’s gonna drop so all you can do is take care of business and win damn games so and it goes back to my point yesterday this isn’t a feelings or personal situation this is a business decision Ren Gordon G whichever boosters the group that they have they need to hire the best candidate that is going to win now and set this program up for success for years to come we need a Kirk cetti like hire that has happening at Indiana I’m not saying Kirk Signet is coming guys but we need somebody that will come in with a chip on the shoulder and and and and change the culture right away and start winning right from day one and and make us feared again man there was a time where we were feared and and and and nobody wanted to play us now it’s been a laughing stock where people kneel the ball at at the two yard line to only beat us by four touchdowns instead of five so that’s my two cents on this I’m looking forward to seeing who they hire um looking forward to breaking down the candidates rush I mean this is kind of a breath of fresh air a little bit knowing that there’s a little bit of Hope let at the end of the tunnel and uh can’t wait to break it down with you yeah looking forward to it as well and everyone can join us every step of the way of course on the the Ryan and Rush show Please Subscribe uh please donate if you can um I will say obviously we’re not going to have a head new head coach in time for a bowl game I wouldn’t be surprised Ryan if they actually decide not to do the bowl I don’t know what the financial side of it is maybe there is money to be made there I know it also can depending on how it’s drawn up it also costs money to get out there and and and that sort of thing too so we’ll see how that falls into place and everyone too I want to say this as well with a new new regime there’s going to be a lot of transfer portal guys there’s going to be guys going in and out all the time if Nico for example decides to leave that’s not necessarily a bad thing either of course we wish everyone the best but maybe there’s someone better coming in maybe it’s not even that they’re better they just fit under the new coaches game plan a lot better so if we lose our whole entire football team every single person we have not saying there aren’t good guys on this team and and and players that can potentially help us down under a new coach but don’t freak out it’s actually okay of anything maybe it’s a little better because then we’re able to start fresh with nil as well so nil transfer portal era everything can be turned around like that I do I I don’t want to I know we’re harping on Neil Brown a little bit and he’s heard it from everyone you know these past last six weeks I agree with what people saying wish him the best he’s a decent guy he’ll be fine I actually I I I’m not even gonna follow him after this like I know you’re like Ryan oh you know hope he wins or does well wherever he goes I don’t I don’t personally care it’s just it’s time I’m mentally so moved on and you know with the money that he’s made here and the payout that he’s going to get he’ll be just fine and he’ll he’ll land on his feet somewhere else so yes but uh this was a thread on uh X by uh Jake Lance um he’s at uh night St night stare um so this is what we’re moving on from guys so I’m going to read this we’re going to put it behind us and we’re going to move forward uh Brown won 37 games at West Virginia in six seasons as head coach of those 37 wins six came against FCS opponents me meaning outside the FCS he finished 31 and 35 obviously couldn’t get done of those 31 FBS he beat only 11 were ball eligible um and of those 11 only two won their bowl game I know we’re in Era where bowl games don’t mean as much as they used to of the 11 teams he beat who were B eligible seven finish finished with a winning record meaning 24 of his 31 wins came against teams who finished below 500 of those seven teams who finished above 500 only four finished more than one game above 500 um his opponent’s winning percentage was never above 500 and this past year it was only 35% and don’t forget one of those teams was Penn State too so put them to the side and the main point of all of this and what we need with a new head coach we need a splash we need something big we have never been ranked with Neil Brown so like I said guys wish him the best moving forward hope everything’s okay but he made his money he couldn’t win here it’s a strict business decision it’s time to move on the athletic department did the right thing and they heard your cries they heard the public and they heard their consumers know that they were done themselves so everyone good job seriously at the end of the day it does come down to the fans and what the fans want and this showed it so hey it’s time for a new era Ryan I’m excited it is and and I’m looking forward to just seeing wh which candidates they go go in in in the direction of to looking at so I mean of course we know the hot names I mean Jimbo has been circulating for for weeks and weeks now Jimbo of course sat out last year got fired at Texas A&M after a pretty solid Run for the most part they just couldn’t get over the hump there he was solid at Florida State he won a National Championship uh the the Rich Rod the Rich Rod is I know people don’t like it but the Rich Rod is the cetti like route where you hire a guy that has had a hell of a year at a G5 overachieved won his conference and he can bring his Jack State team up here and compete right away just like zetti did at JMU to Indiana um and and get this program going right from day number one and he’s of course coach here and and won some big games May I add the the the coordinators I mean colon Nikki at Penn State I think is going to be a guy that they’re gonna look at I think Garrett Riley down there at Clemson um I know there’s a there’s been circulation of Dan Mullen as well um he sat out the last couple years he’s been on ESPN um he he did a good job at Mississippi state did a good job at Florida I think he’s a pretty good coach if you wanted to get completely creative uh Jeff monin at army if you want to no I’ll shut that down right now I don’t think that’s realistic I just threw that one out there um I know they will throw his name out just because of the job he’s done at army this year but I definitely think those first five names Jimbo richrod uh Colton Nikki Riley and um who is a Mullen would would be the probably the hotter names yeah you may be able to throw Chadwell in at liberty or or candle from Toledo but I just don’t and you’ve said it rush I don’t see them going the G5 route with the with richrod being the exception Rich Rod’s the exception just because he played here he’s coached here he’s been a game away from the national championship here and he’s he’s he’s uh he’s had success in this modern era down there at Jack state so um I don’t know Russ what what are you hearing what are your thoughts on some of the candidates I’ll push back on Rich Rod a little bit I do agree I think he’s a hell of a coach the only concern and I guess this is the same with Jimbo is age does need to be a consideration however you don’t need to get your coach that you know puts in the next 10 20 years here honestly that’s may not even happen anyway the days of Don nean and a bob Huggins are kind of done at West Virginia but you just need a three four five year just stabilizer get back to you know what we remember West Virginia football being the push back I’ll put on richrod though is I think he’s the most get getting the most out of his Jacksonville State team right now I’m fine with him you know being the head coach I don’t mind if he brings a couple guys you know up from there I just I don’t know how those guys would translate into the power for the Big 12 I know Signet did it with JMU to Indiana but JMU to Indiana is not the jump from Jacksonville State to West Virginia so that’s the only a push back I’ll have everything else I completely agree with Rich Rod I would be 100% fine with Jimbo as well it’s definitely I’d be the Curious his level of Interest I mean he’s still getting paid by Texas A&M right now so may be able ble to pay him less um because he’s he’s getting that you know paycheck for sure I think people were a little hard about his tenure at Texas A&M part of that tenure was you know still pre-transfer portal era so they may have all had all the resources but he did well he did well as a recruiter um and you know Texas A&M is just a weird place we saw it yesterday with them losing to Texas I mean it just it’s a tough place to win it’s a weird interesting culture and I don’t mean that necessarily NE it’s just you know it’s it’s been tough even Manzel you know they they didn’t compete for a national championship even though he was great um it’s just hard it’s a hard place to win so I don’t necessarily I’ve been someone that doesn’t hold his tenure at Texas A&M against him of anything I think he performed very well especially in an SEC within Nick Sabin and how well George has been of late um and LSU you know with the Joe burrow like it just seems like Texas A&M could never time it quite right and I don’t I don’t know how much I blame Jim there so listen I you just can’t go the group of five route you just can’t you need someone that’s proven you need someone that has a track record and I think as long as they do they don’t do that that I think any of those guys are still better than than Neil Brown I do I mean it’s over it’s it’s the guy that couldn’t get us over the hump or any not even over the hump like we couldn’t even get near the hump it felt like um he’s gone he’s gone and I gotta think that you can get someone in here that can do better than him you got to get someone that can at least get a small little number next to West Virginia’s name like that that that that shouldn’t be that difficult especially with Texas and Oklahoma not in this conference anymore wait we’re we’re not asking for a 12 and0 year every year like I said the other day you’ve said multiple times we’re asking to go eight and four nine and three consistently every year you get a special group like we we did with with Pat company or will gre’s team that didn’t end up finishing the job um and that’s a team that could go 10-2 11- one and compete and and get we should be in the playoff every every five years with this new format where all you have to do is go 10 and two and and and pretty much you’re you’re in and and and the schedule matters obviously what we’re seeing how this is breaking down too you make a good point about age really not mattering cetti is 63 years old at Indiana you just need a guy that can get your program back off the mat four to five years like you said the days of somebody being at a job for a 20 plus year I I don’t think we’re ever GNA see the the the runs like the Don neens like you talked about the Bob Huggins era that that that just doesn’t happen anymore with just the non-stop portal nil era um and just moving Parts it’s impossible to get continuity and a lot of people um just need to change the scenery so it it it’s definitely going to be interesting um I do I do think I do like the option of bringing your team a lot of your guys because I don’t think the drop off from the high major power five to the G5 is as big as we’ve I think the Gap is as small as it’s ever been just because the depth on these uh Power fives are not as good as they once were because they’re going to a G5 because they can get paid at at those places and and and they want playing time and and then the portal has allowed them to all right I’m going to go jump to the G5 for a year and and and produce there then I can jump back to the power five get a bag of cash and and and get paid that way and get on the scenery so I do like the the Signet route where you bring in a guy like Rich Rod he brings his core guys then you add some pieces in the portal retain a couple guys on on the current team that that I mean there are some good players on our current team it just that we we lack consistency we lack discipline culture coaching and and I it’s going to be fascinating to see where Ren Baker and Company go here either way whoever they pick I think everybody knows where who I want it to be um you’re you’re not as set on one guy as I am whoever it is we will have uh they will have our full support and we’re we’re fired up to get a new guy in here and win again that’s what we want to do make great again yeah it just needs to be a splash it needs to be a proven guy it needs to be like because because this makes me me feel I I I know we were talking about this a little pre-show and we kind of hinted at it here but I I agree with you in the sense that the the transfer Portal’s about to open up here you know and you don’t want to get exactly and you don’t want to get left behind I I’d like to think they kind of already have someone I I don’t think this is gonna be a long interview process by Friday I don’t think you yeah I don’t think you make a decision like this unless you are pretty certain of who it’s going to be and and now I don’t say that to panic either that if you don’t have someone in exactly a week from today you know it’s it’s the end of the world you got you got and you want someone like this that’s in a conference Championship here coming up or even in the college football playoff I know we’ve seen it in the past um Lan kein an example you know he left Alabama before the national championship game where he was the offensive coordinator so you know that situation may happen it’s it’s definitely a weird era of college sports we live in where the transfer portal and coaches move and you know there’s still teams in the playoffs and bowl games and and that sort of thing but you got to take advantage of it you you you have to and and so with that being said you gotta you got to move you you don’t want to force it but you you think this decision’s already made with people in the back of your mind and you do want to move as fast as you can I think they had their guy it’s about who’s coming on staff what’s the what’s the salary going to look like what’s the buy their buy out down the road if they if they don’t work out God forbid they don’t work out hopefully they work out um what’s the nil portal um budget basically what the schedule look like um I mean hey maybe that Virginia uh decision was made by somebody that they already knew uh that they already had that hey I don’t want to play that ECU game and and and three four years get that off let’s play Virginia here um but I I also just to put in perspective I just researched this Rush James Madison and Indiana season ended last year because that that’s what this is in my opinion we’re like What Indiana was last year where we’re just a a a team that’s kind of in the middle of the pack that is a one really good hire away from getting right back into that 1011 or from a 10- win season in competing for a college football playoff their season ended both of them on November 25th so Saturday November 25th Signet was hired in Indiana by Thursday November 30th so five days I think we’re gonna know the coach by the end of the week I think I think this is already done and whoever it is I’m not gonna pretend like I know who it is I don’t um whoever it is I think that they’ve already got everything ready to go and uh it’s about getting the right staff in getting the right players in the portal nil so that we can uh we can win right away well I thought about the I was chuckling since we’ve been talking about Rich Rod a lot watch him uh dip out on his Jacksonville State team before the conference Championship to come back to West Virginia do do the reverse you know come back he threw the Western Kentucky game yesterday everybody he he sat his players he he did he he sat his players because he wanted to lose to get the West Virginia job not because they had already clinched the buy um and and they’re hosting the uh conference Championship on Friday it would be something if they announc him on uh Friday then he’s got a coach’s Conference Championship but it could be Jimbo man it could be Jimbo Jimbo uh Jimbo has been out of work for years so he’s been able to work the phones it could be Dan Mullen he’s been out of work too so um Studio Job is nice though everybody’s a better Coach when they work for ES yeah you know you’re work in theud you it’s a lot warmer in December in the studio than it is on the field you know got a LIF deal at ESPN so I mean just someone like I said with with aen aen record so we we’ll see man but I’m I’m with you I I’d like to think they kind of already know the guy and and they’re they’re ready to they’re ready to move on so hey it all started today Neil Brown is done at West Virginia feels good and just time time to start fresh Band-Aids been ripped off and it’s it’s time to get relevant again and and there’s a reason we’re 15th all time and division one wins for for college football Ryan and that’s what we got to get back to because our fans have expectations and like I said for everyone you made your voices heard you stood it up when you said something wasn’t right and I think that was a large reason why um gee and and and Baker you know made their decision and moved on I will say too and we talked about this a little bit Ryan is in terms of they have a good feeling already where they’re going to go because if you’re a big booster and they’re like um excuse me Mr Kendrick we we need $7 million from you to pay out this coach okay sounds good well who’s the next guy where’s my investment going I’ll I’ll pay him off but yeah who who who are you com what’s what’s the plan here like what what is the plan so that that’s part of the conversation as well they’re they’re businessmen they there there’s a reason why they’re they’re they’re millionaires billionaires because they’re good businessmen they uh they they make good Investments they they want they want a solid return on investment so um yeah they definitely well well said and uh hopefully they hopefully they get the right guy man it’s got to be better you gotta think it’s got to be better than this I mean like yeah yeah it it it does suck that it did not work out with Neo because it felt like going into the year back to just this whole year kind of summon it up that this could have been a special year but didn’t work out and uh it’s kind of crazy that he basically was a dead man walking last year rallied and then the very next year where everybody gave him expectations he’s fired it kind of whenever his back was against the wall he he he would pop up but then um but when there were expectations we always laid an egg in these big games and that ultimately did kneel in it did it did well time to move on start fresh the Ryan and Rush show will be with you every step of the way don’t forget five stars subscribe wherever you listen or watch we appreciate your all support thank you chat you’re live as always so much going on uh it’s a little hard to keep up but uh we we see him come in and um we we’ll we’ll continue to be here so we’ll talk to you guys soon obviously Ren baker has a big choice on his hands career defining move if Ren wants that as we talked about that that next big job that you know he he could see himself in you know you you make a good decision like this you know it sets him up too so it’s not just Mountain your nation that you know is clamoring for you know stability and to get back on track there’s there’s big careers on the line here as well so I think we’re in good hands and we’ll see you all again real soon again thank you for your support have a good one and let’s go Mountaineers have a great Sunday guys let’s go MERS
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