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he [Music] [Music] well hello there and welcome back in it is a Tuesday edition of the BET us TV college basketball show I am the somewhat capable host TJ Reeves hello the Big Man on Campus once again Jeff Nao and look who’s back proud papa in the house hello Matt Cox good to have you back aboard on BET us TV after the birth of your daughter uh baby Gemma and mama doing well here uh how are things uh battling better at home than I than it is here at the office with my technological difficulties today as you guys see I have a little weird uh disjoints in mobile setup but I guess good practice for all the curve balls that parenting throws at you right TJ you’ve had a few year way so I think you can tell me about the trials and yeah we’re good all is good welcome to the next 15 to 20 years of your life with curveballs and different things big man good to be with you I know you share with me and with the audience that we welcome Matt back on the show how are things Jeff na just about what tracksuit to buy and wear this weekend that’s all I’m worried about yeah exactly I get it uh listen uh we got a lot to get to with the college hoops we got some better matchups today uh big man we sifted through what we could sift through yesterday nice call on Texas Tech and the first half uh against Oral Roberts with a blowout win any any thoughts Jeff any thoughts off of Monday anything stand out in particular no uh you know Matt and I and Corby and we’ve all talked about you know the last week or two you know a lot of these slates are really I think just kind of bare there’s not a lot out there they really got to try to find Value on these cards and look anytime you can get a win on a card like last night you’ll take it I will say I mean I continue to be I’m sure Matt agrees very impressed by this Northern Iowa group I mean you put up 104 last night I mean this offense is rolling I mean they have the best effective field goal percentage in the country now I will say that with baited breath okay this is a team that has played one I think actually two really good defenses in Irvine and North Texas were shut down to 48 and 60 points so I think this is a group that when we get into conference play or even in their next game against Washington state they’re going to be fade material uh they’ve been able to kind of uh you know whoop up on on bad groups and and bad defenses look at the last couple of defenses they played I mean just Dreadful so I I think it’s a little over VI and you have to be willing to look at that stuff and for instance tonight there’s a play I’m going to make where I’m just targeting a dog that I think is better and has played better competition so uh kind of a tease there TJ that’s what we do in this bu like that we te it up we te it up uh back to Monday also we had this whack Conference USA challenge Louisiana Tech was impressive against Grand Canyon a couple people are saying in the chat Matt Cox this is not the 2023 Grand Canyon anymore with the losses that they’re taking any thoughts on that or anything else that stood out for you on Monday as you got in between diaper changing baby feedings Etc to watch some hoops yeah no handicapping is not at all taken still cooking with gas TJ got plenty of uh plenty of local articles I read some some pressers I watched looking through some data as well I did notice the Northern Iowa bloodbath against Montana a loser for me um I do think I’m with Jeff that’s probably a paper tiger I do want to call out though um a couple of teams of one being depal tonight against St Johnny’s I we get to them in a second but this is kind of a fast standing game for Chris Holtman um kind of what Jeff was saying a dog that hasn’t proven a lot against Premier competition at this point in the season you kind of have those fade play on spots where you have teams who have done a lot against Bad teams and then you have teams who have played exclusively really good teams and they and they’re just now kind of playing a bad team for the first time so to speak calp is in that spot tonight right kind of been a Darling Dog of the market for the start of the season now they’re actually laying double digits which is kind of an unfamiliar uncharted waters uh if you will for them so yeah we’re starting to get some weird spot unique situ for some of these teams I’m with Jeff though you kind of have to tread lightly until conference play I just think there’s too much variance unless you have a really strong Edge situationally or uh or price-wise but the Market’s gotten sharper every year and I think the price edges have certainly dissipated uh even this late or this early in December want to point out something TJ you said about gr Canyon I you know I don’t I don’t know I mean what’s what is their excuse I mean they Foster he’s been terrible that Russ didn’t get off to a good start he just sort of been he hijacks possessions because he’s so ENT I think he thinks he has to be the guy and when you’re shooting like you know sub 40% from the field just Torpedoes the whole offense but at the end of the day like they they had you Kobe Kohl’s who who’s a a five a kid that comes over from a power five team I mean there’s really they should be better than they were last season now look H’s had 19 last night they still lost by eight 746 I don’t think it matters though because this group is going to probably run through uh the whack conference um that said I mean when it comes down when they make the NCA tournament maybe just some of this experience early on they did beat Stanford if if that’s worth anything so they’ll get going and Grant Foster would be better but I’ve definitely been surprised by their inability to win games against quality opponents so far and we did talk yesterday Middle Tennessee won by double figures over Cal Baptist the uh the Dominique Daniels kid did have 20 in the losing effort for them and then how about UTEP only beat tolton what by five 6762 so it was kind of a weird night uh with some of the games that we had but all of that is in the past what we do here on BET us TV every weekday Monday through Friday 11: a.m. eastern time is about the present we handicap games we give you a little bit about the past and now we talk about the present we talk about Tuesday and it’s a much better slate today as Matt was making mention of uh with some conference games and some top 25 teams in action we got a little more to go over uh here on the program what do you say we do that let’s get it underway and see what the handicappers are all about we’ll get to your live questions in a little bit game number one uh let’s get to it this is UNC Asheville hosting North Florida tonight Asheville laying three points in this matchup with a total of 158 and a half Jeff NAU isolated something about this game I’m curious as to what it is as it kicks off the show I don’t play many overs I don’t play many total anymore that’s more corby’s thing but I zeroed in on this total and I thought why is this total not more than 160 I I’m I’m not sure what these oddsmakers have watched I mean these teams played back on November 18th 8975 and to make that even Wilder I mean we know North Florida shoot a bunch of Threes they only made 33% of their threes they still scored 75 points only got to the free throw line eight times there were only 25 total free throw attempts in the game and the score was still 8975 every game North Florida plays is up and down and wild TJ I mean they’re just wildly Fran take uh 9391 8977 10372 with the amount of Threes North Florida take and they take a lot of them 52% from a three uh three-point attempt field goal attempt metric 46% of their points come in the fre three-point line they’re Marksman I mean they’re they’re making with that kind of volume over 35% that’s impressive they play fast they let you play fast and it seems like this Asheville team I know they haven’t exactly played a murderers Ro but they’re starting to get going a little bit they look healthy they actually have a decent roster at this point they’ve got a couple of transfers Josh Bank from VCU Fletcher AB who came over from the Citadel I think they can score in this game as well and it seemed like back in that game that I discussed they have no problem playing when someone wants to go up and down so I think this game’s back and forth I think it’s first to 85 wins I’m going to play the over North Florida games are just wildly high-scoring yeah M TR Matt Driscoll’s team they do one thing that is that is shoot the three you mentioned Asheville has won three games in a row those are over St Andrews over Bluefield that’s a little school in West Virginia I happen know to know a little bit about that and Western Carolina that’s their wins Matt Cox any by the way real quick one one quick point and I’m sure matt’ll address this North Florida 9 and0 to the over this year yeah wow right Matt so we gave a lot on the total anything here on the side with Asheville at home is that number about where you think it should be uh yes it is I do kind of like North Florida on the side though I I still think this uh this Asheville team’s a little bit overrated U just by a hair now back to the total angle that Jeff talked about crazy that North Florida is actually better offensively without Chaz laner the guy who’s set in the world on fire over at Tennessee in sort of a dull connect 2.0 type of season uh but yeah just kind of shows how unique and how deadly uh Matt Driscoll’s offense is I think in the nonconference especially um you have more I think there’s a small net advantage or net Edge if you will with their offense against teams that don’t know their their style and their system right now it’s not like an overly complex Style with a lot of quick hit with a lot of set plays it’s more of just a unique style which they have lots of guys that can play inside and out lots of versatile quick hitting actions it sort of catches You by surprise if you don’t know it I actually think this could be a good under team in conference play but I think you ride the over wve for the rest of non-conference and and then as they get into conference play against teams that know their stuff you have these totals that’ll be like 165 170 like in the clouds there’s probably some under uh there’s a pendulum swing back to the under there but I think for now the end of this noncon Runway I like the over angle all right it will be in the Kimmel Arena they’re going to play a little earlier 6:30 eastern time tonight on ESPN plus rematch game as brother na was talking about UNCC Asheville and North Florida let’s go on the record first official play uh here for this Tuesday show is going to be the over Jeff na says points give me a lot of them the overs kind of betrayed Corby Captain under’s been playing overs Nao and he lost two more yesterday that’s four losses I just went and looked four losses for him playing the over since last Monday we got to keep him away from the overs you say over on this one tonight and how about that stat again 9 and0 to the over right now for uh for North Florida going into this game tonight that’s and that’s and that’s only because they haven’t tracked their non division one games me they beat Edward Waters 10859 to beat Warner whatever I guess that’s Kurt Warner and his kid or something I don’t know yeah what was the what was the total close on that I think I had the closing total at 175 at my local shop for that that war game so yeah I think they are 11 and0 if you include the N9 D1 depending on your offshores all right again North Florida and Asheville kicks off the show for tonight you see on the left side of the screen we’re going to handicap two more games we’re going to get to your live Q&A coming up in a few moments the fun and the frivolity if you don’t see something on the schedule get ready to ask about it all right this is an intriguing one on paper North Carolina and Florida playing in Charlotte this is the Jumpman classic tonight event uh here North Carolina and Florida playing on night one in the Hornets Downtown Arena Gator a three and a half Point favorite on the neutral floor off to the 10 and0 start North Carolina a little up and down had problems in Maui had some problems uh also since then barely put Georgia Tech away then blew out Lal all right Matt Cox start our discussion here thought on Florida and North Carolina is that line about what you would have thought it would be on a neutral floor in Charlotte yeah I think to the average Observer they might think it’s High um but those people have probably just missed how awesome Florida’s been and I think we talked about this last week the SEC at large uh you know is kind of an angle in football where you can look at conference vers conference as as an angle to find Value not so much in in basketball but I do think because of how dominant historically this year the sec’s been you can look at this matchup right here and say this is just another really really good SEC team with that actually could be undervalued it’s a potentially overvalued team in UNC that’s really been I mean solid but volatile and I think they’ve uh kept their High marks in the analytics by making these crazy second half runs I just don’t know that’s sustainable um they have real issues in the rim they have no physicality and Florida is built on their physicality up front with the size that they can bring in Rim protection the way they throw Rim runs and lobs they get out in transition and their guard play I mean what Walter Clayton’s doing the former I owna transfer he’s like an all SEC Player of the Year candidate his you know almost it’s almost disrespectful to call Elijah Martin a deputy but he’s been a had a Renaissance season after that breakout year at fa two years ago he’s healthy he looks amazing um I I just think Florida smacks him tonight you know this is kind of a keep it simple stup handy cap for me I didn’t bet it big but I did take Florida small at minus three I I would endorse up to three and a half four but nothing big I just don’t think there’s a major uh value here but I do think if you want to look at that SEC versus you know non SEC power conference Edge if you think this SEC thing is real and the numbers certainly back it up how good they’ve been against other conferences another good spot to do it here tonight with Florida against a brittle UNC team you’re about to hear an opposing view here in a moment from Jeff Nao I know what’s coming that when last we saw Florida they blasted Arizona state 8366 to get them to 10 and0 they also have those two neutral floor neutral floor in Orlando uh wins over Wake Forest and over Witchita state for what that’s worth um again this is in Charlotte a couple of hours by car from rileigh Carolina’s closer but it is not a home situation for the Tar Heels and now Jeff N I know you’re interested in North Carolina in this matchup go ahead and here’s why uh Matt makes a lot of great points you know Florida’s really good however I mean what point on this schedu have youve been that I mean they haven’t played they haven’t played Auburn they haven’t played Kansas they haven’t played Alabama they haven’t played Michigan State they haven’t played Dayton I mean Carolina has played a murderous row and that sets up and why I liked him in games like this throw in the fact that they are as you guys alluded to essentially at home in this game and when the rubber meets the road for as good as Clayton’s been as good as Martin’s been he ain’t RJ Davis I just think RJ Davis and North Carolina are better as far as on paper as what Florida has throw in the fact that in this number I’m getting three and a half points and I’m going to just hope that it’s closed I also will point out one of the issues that I’ve saw with North Carolina we saw it back in the first game of the season against Elon outrebounded they’ve actually done a pretty good job though on the defensive glass which I think if you can keep Florida off the offensive glass you’re going to have a decent go but Florida one of the sparkling things that they’ve done this year is rebound the ball in the offensive glass they’re 10th nationally in offensive rebound percentage that said Carolina pretty good 85th nationally so I think they’re not going to be beat up too bad on the glass something just tells me this game comes down to the wire has Florida actually fixed some of the defensive issues that plagued them at a pretty high level at times last season we’ll see I’m going to grab RJ Davis who’s the best player in the court give me UNC I’ll grab the three and a half here I love I love the disagreement in the back and forth here each handicapper on opposite sides but again Matt Cox you’re not officially playing this Jeff is gonna officially lock in on Carolina he gets three and a half on the BET us line here on this one and I’m just going to put this back out there uh the whole controversy with the coach Todd golden has been just completely Swept Away swept under the rug it’s not resolved with multiple women accusing him of cyberstalking and inperson stalking them on the Florida campus they have pressed on they are winning games me it’s a national television game on ESPN Tonight in Charlotte and I dare say they’re not even going to bring it up that he continues to coach on over the last month with all this going on and Florida again has had a lot of success on the court I just find it fascinating that uh we don’t even know what the timeline is on the title 99 investigation that’s going on either it’s been going on since September by the way that’s another backdrop in this game yeah I I think just with from a handicapping perspective it would have already impact than I think right if that was really the thing so at this point it’s just been a they’ve been a well oiled machine to Jeff’s point just a final note on this game UNCC needs this game badly like their resume right now isn’t a slam dunk High tournament seed resume like they do need some big wins so in terms of you’re going to probably get uncc’s best ever tonight Florida they’re undefeated surely you’re not going to get a bad effort but I agree with Jeff you might get the more dialed effort from the dog here Don hang on Don mention what he’s gonna mention I’m gonna back up here this is this is why you have to bring it up Don Corone because in this country we have a major problem with taking allegations and running with them allegations now again this is not a particularly hard investigation just look at the camera has he been stalking people on campuses what you’re alleging here at the end of the day they’re alleg we need to stop taking allegations and saying oh he’s guilty let him have his day in court whenever that is at the end of the day though he is innocent till proven guilty and he’s the coach of this team and in a big game there’s still a lot of stuff being written about this I’m sure it’s going to be a talk on the broadcast tonight um so yeah you have to bring it up it’s important Noah wants you to investigate I my point is I don’t know that they’re even going to bring it up on the broadcast at this point it’s gone on now for about three weeks when all of this came to light three four weeks and it’s not resolved and there are multiple women that have text messages from him this is a married coach with little kids that have text messages from him that have examples of him cyberstalking him that they could verify through the text messages and they say that there’s even been inperson situations on campus where he came up to them Etc to meet them exact you know Etc so then that will come out but but I still don’t I don’t understand the timeline on this was all filed in September when do we start to have a resolution I’m just asking not asking you to but I’m just asking on when does that get resolved so there you go well it took a while for the Teran Shannon thing to play itself out and he you know he was still able to criminal that was criminal charges we talked about this last year it had to work its way through which it did you predicted and many and many said there does not look like there’s a case here and he was ultimately Vindicated because the Chargers were ultimately dismissed I believe um and he had to sue to get back on the court because they had suspended him indefinitely this is a player being accused who was suspended indefinitely this is a coach being incused who’s still coaching the game tonight I just thought I would add that in one more time there’s your backdrop one more time lock in Jeff Nao is on North Carolina he do care about that other crap we were talking about he cares about Carolina covering the three and a half as the underdog here and we’ll see what happens again that’s on ESPN 7 eastern time tonight in Charlotte all right let’s move on you see we’re here weekdays at 11 a.m Eastern Time Monday through Friday third game on the docket is Kansas City and witch to State witch to State laying a big number laying 14 here total 148 in their home game for this match up tonight witch to state was a loser to Florida earlier uh in late November in Orlando on the neutral floor all right Matt Cox you’re going to have an official play on this game what Drew you to UMKC and which toss State well I’d like just to start off it’s a u not a local rivalry so to speak but it’s a game that has some local implications and so for the dog in this one you got to think they’re going to be a little bit more dialed in to play well against a team that’s you know a quasi big brother in their state which obviously wi tall state is uh and they’re playing a lot better this year under Paul Mills you know they struggled last season you know had some moments in the AC but they actually look like a a pretty good operation offensively this year they have some size up front uh UMKC was sort of a in disarray the first three weeks of the season they had no continuity in their rotation uh Marvin men’s talked about that they had a just a a Gastly shooting display the first couple of or the last few games as well but now you look at their their health they got Jamar Brown back as sort of their quasi point guard he’s a key creator for them they’re still down Anderson cop who might be their most overall important player but with brown back and the way they’ve played with brown as the head of the snake the last two games right so they go to Portland when at win by five come back home against Bowling Green win by eight like that to me is sort of a a very early light bulb is flickering on right didn’t blow those teams out not saying those teams are you know the 96 bowls or the 2008 Warriors whatever but but still there’s signs of improvement in a team that was supposed to be in many people’s eyes including my own the top in the summit now they haven’t played like that but with with a more a healthier bill of a roster back and toe a better spot I think here with that should be locked in playing a a cross state rival uh and some recent evidence with Shamar Brown being the table setter uh setting up those Shooters with Jason Petty and Cameron fos who were ice cold to start the year they’re due for major shooting regressions in their favor they have some muscle up front I don’t think which talk completely bodies them at The Rim they have the size Advantage but UMKC as all men’s these teams are they’re physical right they can hang on the glass um and so I think W G play play a really good game to beat this team by two touchdowns I just don’t see it I like my ruse here UMKC going on the road playing kind of an uglier maybe maybe an under lean as well 148 the total uh to sneak inside the number and get the cover tonight uh interesting here again for witch State the Shockers they’ve kind of uh they’ve had a couple of Bad seasons remember Greg Marshall all the controversy they removed him as the coach uh Jeff Nao any thoughts including maybe here on the total in this one Matt was giving you a little bit on the total as well uh for this matchup tonight with witch to State and Kansas City this is a major uh kind of pace battle witto wants go go go under Paul Mills men’s he wants to dirty the game up and walk the ball up the courts so we can assume that uh you know it’s going to be kind of in the middle I mentioned last night um with the play against or Roberts one of the concerns I have with or Roberts is a lot of run outs easy possessions because they shoot a bunch of threes and don’t make a bunch of Threes so does Kansas City that said as Matt alluded to last couple of games starting to shoot the ball a lot better uh looking better from three I think the other night they were 42% from three um I need to know Anderson cop status though he’s pretty important I think to me he’s CRI I age in terms in terms of how good they are I mean this is a guy who dropped 22 27 20 I mean he’s he’s been a big contributor to this program and at least this year and and recently so I need him if he’s in there and you know everything looks good I I would agree I just we don’t know his status and unfortunately it’s not as if uh TJ Kansas City it’s isn’t the Chiefs now you’re not going to know with Adam Chef’s reports on who’s playing so unless you can find some sort of a message board which I have used I’m a message board guy I go in and look at Army’s Message Board some of the college football on so you know definitely use those to your advantage but un I know that I can’t get involved but I I think the play has legs for sure again uh they defeated after the Florida loss they defeated alorn State and East Tennessee State at home lost at depal now back home is witch to State and Matty Cox says hey my first official play after baby Jimma is born is a Kansas City play but not the right I mean the Chiefs maybe I don’t know the Chiefs have been a 14-point underdog since Mahomes got there but the Kansas City uh what the what is Kansas City the rangar kangaroos the rusos are getting 14 and Matt Cox Matt Cox says give me the 14 right tonight uh in this one uh for Witchita state I’m just looking for my outlet on where we see at ESPN Plus in the Koke Arena the Charles Koke Arena that’s right tonight at 6:30 local time 7:30 :30 Eastern Time For That matchup all right we’ll get to your live Q&A you can see follow us on all the socials make sure that you are here weekdays at 11 a.m. eastern time Monday through Friday look at those smiling faces as we come your way talking college basketball all the way through March all the way through the final four not going anywhere during the holidays if there’s games the handicap we’re going to be here on BET USV by the way clarification by and by the way the football show previewing the college football playoff expansion with Gary Parker and Kyle that is coming your way one Eastern today and tomorrow uh bowl games and the cfp the the eight games the uh that will narrow down to the final four four of them this week four of them coming up in in about a week and a half that narrows down to the final four they have been utilizing for the college football playoff one other clarification teren Shannon was tried I looked at it a moment ago and acquitted of the rape charges there it was not the were dropped on that he maintained his innocence all along um and and again had to sue the university to be able to be reinstated because they didn’t follow their own procedures in process and give him a hearing and they ended up making the Elite 8 by the way a year ago with Terence Shannon leading them so we just I say one thing if if you’re ever involved in a criminal investigation you want to be acquitted you don’t want to be found not guilty not that they’re any different but in the public eye being not guilty doesn’t mean you didn’t do it they just prove that they just couldn’t prove you did do it so you want to be acquitted because that makes it clear this is thrown out it’s done see you it’s good for him Double Jeopardy does not apply can not be tried again uh all right let’s get into it Q&A time again if you’re a member you’re going to get prioritized make sure you’re a member make sure that you’re following along with us here but if you see a lot of the same names that is because they are members we prioritize them first let’s see how many questions and games we can get to Michael watching he is a member he says Mattie calp is 10 and a half is that too much against Denver thought on that one tonight Matt Cox yeah I luded to this in the intro U it’s a like I said a unique spot for calp who’s been sort of everyone’s loved to back them as a dog under Mike de George first year head coach has it really rolling after just a dismal uh you know regime under under John Smith I do feel like it is an awkward spot to lay number with it an underdog that doesn’t have a ton of depth they’ve had some injury issues they don’t have a ton of bodies um and they play very fast so it’s tough to sustain that pace and that consistency without a big bench with the way they play Denver has a lot of depth as well but it’s not really good depth I think it’s just pretty much a bad basketball team uh on a pure number basis I did Lean Denver pretty hard I’m sorry calp pretty hard but my just concern with backing them as a favorite again Uncharted Territory they’ve been great as a dog but then now they have to beat a team that frankly isn’t all that less talented than they are um for the first time with some injuries I didn’t give me the and fuzzy so I ultimately passed but I do lean toward cowp here Jeff they both have losing records it’s a cowply home game anything care or we move on slightest leans to the over I mean calp just plays so fast I mean number one in the country and possession lengthed on offense I they have just been destroyed recently defensively last two games one went to overtime 107 they gave up 102 they gave up and they’re not giving up these points to like Stanford or USC it’s San Jose State and seas Sun so yeah not exactly boating well this seems like a 89 81 type of game I I leaned over but I didn’t have much Joe Walsh is watching oh America’s most yeah uh he’s a new member he says Florida State and Winthrop he wants thoughts on FSU and Winthrop tonight I’m looking for my line you guys might have that before I have that uh anything digits 11 yeah Florida any he thought on FSU at home at 7 Eastern Time with Winthrop who is nine and three coming into theame if you get if you get the right official in this game you might have 70 free throws in this game I mean both these teams are as Matt knows extremely reliant on getting to the line I mean both top 20 one of which is top five in getting to the free thr line and these two teams are both in the bottom 60 in allowing you at the line so if you get a good official where he just wants to call a bunch of fouls this and throwing the pace here I mean there’s a couple of games on this card that could be wildly high-scoring if you get the right situation now also throw in Winthrop um they’ve had a nice little win streak recent I think they’ve won five in a row but two came against aett and Bob Jones what’s that a car dealers that’s right what’s that a car dealership there it’s one of the only schools that has like an actual ESPN logo it’s it’s cool that ESPN actually gave them an official logo when you go through the app so it’s one of the yeah shout to Bob B bear B bear logo they’ve also beat Liu who’s terrible queens and Coastal Carolina nothing special there so yeah I I think Florida State probably gets to 90 here winra they’re on the line enough they they could do do something here as well what is this total do we have a this not in the50s yeah it’s high 150s I think no I I kind of think Florida State smacks him I almost played this myself on the show uh but I think the point the overs equally is appetizing to me I think Florida state is is is in the 90s easily um it’s just two teams 159 and a half I think live on BET us I see the total for Florida State and winter Florida State off the win over to Lane on neutral floor down in Miami uh they did previously lose to NC State in overtime in their ACC opener the seols they’re at home tonight we gave you a little conversation on that matchup Chris watching thank you Chris says good morning thoughts on deple and that 13 and a half with St John’s he seems like he says seems like too many points uh big man thought St John’s has been rolling I know you’re you’re big on depole coming unraveled once the Big East season begins are they starting to come unravel tonight uh I mean probably but here’s the thing I mean they’re shooting high level from three I mean it’s hard to go against this team I mean they’re shooting it at over 40% obviously that’s going to come undone sooner or later this isn’t a particularly strong perimeter defense from St John’s um throw in though that they’re on the road here this is kind of a spot where depal has failed over the years and we saw them I mean they’ve played two top hundred teams and lost both of them by seven or more so yeah I’m not running to back to Paul but I got a feeling it’s sooner or later they’re going to stop shooting 40% from three uh you look at their point distribution pretty unbelievable 46% of their points come from the three-point line that’s second nationally um so they need it’s all Boomer bust and we talked about this a year or two ago with um I think it was BYU where like or kraton even like if they’re not making threes they can get run the hell out of the gym something tells me that’s what happens tonight here I don’t know Matt Cox anything well on St John a big number I mean the story here is they asked Brook patino about it Point Blank he’s like hey Rick what do you think about laying 14 to theal and Rick’s like I don’t know who’s making these spreads but I think they’re drunk I may be paraphrasing there um because they’ve not been blowing out these you know they’ve had some good efforts as a favorite but like last year they had some just like dominant performances um and he thinks he he doesn’t think they’re that well U you know sorted out right now they obviously have some issues offensively and you can certainly see depal who has played really well this year not against great competition uh making this a closer too close for comfort type of game but I think with St John’s and luk Cara Arena that can be a hornet nest for a younger team uh a team that hasn’t been in that environment this season a team that really hasn’t been tested by Fierce perimeter pressure which to Paul frankly hasn’t I think the numbers a little too high I just think the spot does feel like a potential St John’s explosion despite what their own coach is saying basically telling you to bet to Paul so number two though and this is a pretty if if if the Paul’s not making threes let’s say they go seven for 31 this is long rebounds dunks touchdown yeah St John’s doesn’t need to be uh they don’t need to score 90 to hit this here and look again depal TJ three 55 in overall strength to schedule okay this is a fraud paper tiger they do this every year Chris Holman came in trying to build some confidence with some wins but sooner or later you got to play the Godzilla in the Big East that’s what’s killed depal in the past and does it begin tonight is the uh is the question uh TJ question Tennessee is the number one team in the country the AP number one team in the country they won that dramatic game speaking of Illinois at Illinois on the full length of the floor dribble Drive layup to remain undefeated now they play Western Carolina tonight it is a massive it’s like a 30 six-point line on the BET us line any thought on Tennessee back at home is it a sleepy spot off the Illinois game on a Tuesday night any thought uh definitely could be I mean that said they don’t have anything to look ahead to I noticed there are a couple of games tonight that I thought about laying a big number in the problem is the team has a big game on deck which always gives me a little bit of pause I mean they’ve worked these types of teams beat up Montana beat up Austin P U beat up Tennessee Martin I’m 7835 they just so hard to score on and what makes it even harder this year is how good this team’s been on offense they’re kind of a hit you both ends to me Tennessee and Auburn have made it clear that they’re the two top teams to me um throw in the fact Tennessee is a top 10 offensive rebounding team I mean Western Carolina under Tim Craft has been horrific I mean I they’ve one win this season it’s against bellerine um they have been punked a couple of times against good teams they play Fast yeah this is all the makings of 9252 Matt anything there big number at home yeah they usually cover these it’s usually because they their opponent scores like 30 points right so I think they’re well coached Western Carolina Tim Craft’s a good coach but he has no Talent right this team looks like a D3 team in against Tennessee which is a bunch of you know Pro type dudes walking off the bus I think it’s a you name your number if you’re the vs and it’s how much do they care really one thing that that I’ve talked about with Houston and I know TJ you’ve mentioned this that that I’ve talked about Houston against non-conference opponents and completely shutting them down from a defensive standpoint this might be a good spot for Tennessee to do that do we have a team total on uh on Western Carolina tonight I don’t know if they can get to to 50 here I see 53 and a half is the BET us live team total2 you know as far as Pace I think that’s kind of the only concern here Tennessee does play super fast and uh then again they don’t let you play fast I mean I don’t know I don’t think they get the 50 I’ll just throw that out there all right Raymond watching says can we talk Drexel and Howard I guess we’re about to uh Drexel and Howard anything on that tonight gentlemen yeah I saw Drexel took some money Jeff you’re in the affiliate you probably have a better beat on Drex I they got their point guard back last game uh vanderhorst I believe right he made his season debut he only played 10 minutes against Albany but I think he’s supposed to be emerg to one of their key Distributors ball handlers and for team frankly do have a lot of dynamism in the perimeter they’re sort of a gritty grimy type team I think he does matter somewhat Market seems to agree that bet this up to two and a half I like Howard though at home I think Howard’s good and I’m not really sold on this Drexel team frankly so I did take Howard a little bit at two and a half Jeff Jeff it’s an afternoon game that’s part of why the Savages want to know it’s a 3:30 Eastern Time game any thought on Drexel as the road favorite I I’d probably lean Drexel slightly I think they’re better defensively and and you know this this is pretty pick them type type of game but yeah anytime I get a CA team against a Mak team I’m interested that’s said Howard is better than most Mak teams um but Drex was better on the defensive end um they recruit well in like the midatlantic they’ll get a lot of kids from Maryland and and and Pennsylvania Allentown that area I lean Drexel but it’s not one that I’m running to bet this is one of those I just want to bet something cuz I’m at work and bored you’re not going to win consistently gambling doing stuff like that mate minkovich if I have it right asks about Michigan State and Oakland this game Detroit downtown Little Caesars Arena where the Pistons and the Red Wings play Michigan State is a 16 and a half Point favorite Greg campy’s team was a darling last March but again we keep saying they don’t have Trey Townsen the big man they don’t have gki the outside bomber three-point shooter anymore any thoughts Matt I heard a yep on this Michigan State and Oakland tonight at 7 Eastern I was just looking at this I was very close to betting Oakland uh we’ve seen Greg campy last year and this year uh mostly play well against Premier competition he does an awesome job at really controlling pace and in order to do it against a big a premier a power conference top 15 top 20 team however good you think Michigan state is and lately they’ve been playing that well which is pretty impressive because they haven’t even made shots yet kind of scary I think spar’s upside is probably higher than people have been talking about um but I don’t like that on Mich State staff is blank Lampman who is a six-year veteran core piece of that Oakland team last season I think he knows the inside Playbook that the tips and tricks of how to beat that matchup quirky Zone um and I kind of I’m not sure that makes a huge difference but that’s sort of Oakland’s advantage against these power counters teams is there’s just like this weird defense you never seen before Michigan State ISO they play every year ISO knows what it is um I don’t think he’s gonna run it up by like 30 against his buddy campy but I think the talent Gap is pretty seismic and Michigan State’s playing really well right now like this is kind of one of those quiet uh Insurgent Big 10 teams that no one’s really talking about at like Mass scale again Oakland is a no Northern suburb of Detroit they’ll have all of their fans there Michigan State Little Caesar’s Arena so it’s a neutral site but Michigan state will have have the bigger they they’ll they’ll have an atmosphere there tonight Jeff any quick thought it’s a big number for Michigan State any thought I think Matt made good points about kind of slowing it down and and look the last couple of years um two or three years Oakland’s hung around in the first half and like last year get kind of beat up in the second half I think maybe you take a look at that tonight um this is not a particularly strong Oakland team both these teams 10 days off Oakland’s played three games over the last month they’ve only played eight total games which is very weird given the fact that most teams have played at least nine or 10 um Oakland just hasn’t really scheduled a bunch of games but they have did did a nice job over the years against these quality opponents and maybe you take a look first half where maybe you just catch Michigan State a little sleepy and then they figure figure it out and kind of roll in the second half it worked last year and the year before quickly Jake is a member thank you Jake he asks about Talen giving a point and a half at Robert Morris he says I think Talen by double digits thoughts anything on that gentlemen I would have thought that preseason I just don’t think there’s any evidence that Talsen is that type of team so far this year I know that they’ve had some their two best players tahada and and may have been out of the lineup uh some some rumors of some chemistry issues I know there’s some guys maybe one foot out the door there I love Pat scary I just don’t think this team has that it factor that guju whatever you want to call it the Mojo uh on paper I can certainly understand why the market likes Talen um but I just don’t think it’s a team I can trust frankly and Robert Morris is I know they’ve been down recently but this team has more Talent actually than the last couple of years under Andy tul I got a couple of good Joo dudes uh sorry a Joo stud and an and a NAIA St I believe they look more talented more physical more athletic I think they can actually hold up on the glass which just where TS is always so good but even TS this year their numbers aren’t actually that great on the board so it’s a little bit concerning if you’re looking to rush to back TS I wouldn’t do it anything there Jeff tals and Robert Morris you want to move on yeah I always call it simple um this is one of the more bizarre things ever said about a game I’ve ever heard on what planet is talson double digits better than Robert moris I I have to I have to question if uh the individual asking this has he been drinking early this morning I hope not uh because talson is is completely lost on offense 35 will get back to us if talson wins by 10 rest that’s fine they may but there’s nothing on paper to signify that’s going to happen 358 and effective field goal Robert Mars is one of the best defensive rebounding teams in the country which is what you need to do against Pat scary teams as Matt alluded to Robert Mars is at home here sleepy spot to go you’re going kind of outside of Pittsburgh you’re not going into Pittsburgh it’s just kind of a rough spot on a Tuesday night not where I’d want to be if I’m so yeah I I lean Robert Mars to be honest quickly Brian watching hey you got to admit we’ve gone 45 minutes before we talked about Duke Duke uh tonight and George Mason he’s interested in the Duke first half Brian says thoughts on Duke laying 10 and a half in the first half anything there guys I don’t know Jeff I would stay away I Mason’s defense is really good like I don’t I think if anything this is more of an underling for me uh Duke’s defense has been like suffocating against even good mid Majors I think they hold Mason to like 50 maybe even less uh but Mason’s really good defensively I I would not I think Duke struggles to score uh consistently and with Pace in the open floor in this game so I kind of like the under in that one do with that with what you I think you’re I think you’re getting Tony Skin’s getting some respect here I was hoping to get like 22 23 here though to to to get involved um Marquette they did a okay job George Mason did and it’s Matt alluded to they’re going to dummy this game up muddy this game up very slow paced team good on the defensive end but can they score enough is going to be the real question I’d probably lean under you know just Duke care that much about this game um they’ve got their remind everybody this is their last game before conference plays so I’ve seen Duke like against Incarnate Word they kind of fell asleep in the first half Seattle um I just don’t think they care that much about winning 102 to to 60 they open on the road well they already opened on the road with Louisville but they’re back on the road with Georgia Tech this weekend for what it’s to uh to get into that shout out to my buddy Bill Roland he may see this at some point he’s on the play-by-play call for George Mason Bill’s first year as the play-by-play guy was the final four year in 2007 when they pulled a huge upset of uh a couple teams including Yukon Bill’s still hanging in as a play-by-play guy he gets to work a Duke game tonight at Cameron uh love that hey a couple more that we didn’t touch on how about Clemson at South Carolina Clemson a short point and a half favorite off the loss to my Memphis Tigers at out South Carolina true home game any thought on that game guys Jamon your years you good with history it was 2006 TJ and Tony skin my bad yeah Tony skin who was the coach of this team was on that team with J Lewis and some of those guys that that was a a great team they had a great run what an what an impressive season uh you said Memphis Memphis defeated Clemson Clemson off the loss now three days later playing at South Carolina as a short favorite on that I I think Matt would agree I lean under you know both these teams want to play out of the post two good defensive teams particularly Lamont Paris who he’s done a nice job as well we mentioned Greg campy mudding up the waters against these teams that that are quality top 25 top 30 teams we saw them beat a number one seed seemingly every year it’s kind of what they do there they want to play as slow as molasses uh and so does Clemson for that matter uh I I think this is first uh 65 wins I think Corby probably be on an if we were we had him on the show lean under I think it’s 135 134 anything there South Carolina I lean I lean Clemson there’s a market like Clemson early then the another part of the market like South Carolina got bet back down to two now it’s kind of sitting right there at minus two Clemson where it opened I think it’s still a time to grab some for Clemson off that loss TJ that game against Memphis was a 11: a. local start like games never start that I think this is weird a weird game against Memphis I don’t hold that against Clemson at all it’s a great spot for Memphis going off that loss at home uh take that away like what has Clemson really done wrong other than lose in some stupid like cross country game at Boise way up in the mountains going to a potato country so it’s a good team Gamecocks have proven basically nothing to me uh it’s a close easy travel the crowd should be like maybe half not half Clemson fans but like 25% Clemson fans realistically I like Clemson so I don’t get why this spread so so well should be an atmosphere for sure South Carolina was great last year in SEC play Colin Murray Barnes is is still there the big man let’s see what happens on that one t night’s SEC network 7 Eastern real quick uh and then we’ll get out of here Payton says what do you guys think about SE Hall getting nine against Villanova in the conference uh game here tonight Jeff I see you nodding and he thought on the whole you know every week when you bet you look back and say what should I have bet I loved ruter seaten Hall under on Saturday I don’t know why I didn’t play it but uh that said um maybe I’m just I love Shaheen I think he’s a great coach think in these types of games I just don’t think Villanova is very good I’m sorry I maybe I’m just the this is going to be again a game that’s probably first to 65 wins I I’m gonna take seen Hall I I lean seall I’m not live betting or anything I’m just going to lean them here I think seen Hall is good enough to keep this game within double digits I I think Villanova is a little overvalued I don’t think they’re going to just destroy anyone on the glass like they normally do and I think Shaheen being in that conference a couple of years now I think will’ll have something for Eric Dixon who is really good I would love to get a better if this was 11 I would take Satan Hall and i’ add it I’m not getting 11 though I see nine in a total of 126 and a half Matt Cox Villanova 7:30 Eastern Time seat Hall anything there yeah I lean or seat Hall but I don’t know Jeff you I mean Villanova are they kind of I think they’re sort of we all made fun of them they were sort of a pinata for how for how bad they they started but they’ve been kind of kind of really good lately I think there might be uh some some bubbling Mojo there in Philly I don’t know it’s like rally around Neptune but this team’s really good and Dixon’s just Unstoppable he’s I have to wonder though Cincinnati I think’s come back to earth a little bit maybe uh temple temple can’t guard anybody bad yeah just I wonder now that we get into this conference this is a big game first conference game for these guys I think so I I think the juices will be there I I think this one’s within eight or nine gave you good conversation on all that all right with that let’s take a look at our records let’s take a look at what the guys are officially on and then get out of here a one and two day to start their week again Jeff got home with Texas Tech in the first half on Oral Roberts uh Corby again with the overs Was Bitten Twice by that last night let’s see if the guys bounce back here show Show’s still doing well all right let’s take a look at the official plays for today there are three of them Jeff is on an over points points points Asheville and Florida M Cox says give me the underdog Kansas City at witch to State and Jeff will take North Carolina in the game in charlot with Florida tonight big National TV game on ESPN with that final thoughts anything else that we have not covered Jeff Nao final thought uh two things I think I think that record might be wrong I feel like I’m winning games and I’m still that record maybe I’m wrong I don’t know one game yesterday you wanted to be above 500 winning only one game yesterday just checking on the map I don’t know see hear me out though one other things someone asked about Memphis West Virginia in the frisco bowl tonight TJ uh this whole whole things about clv if you will getting the best number I played this at minus 120 before all the transfer stuff came out it’s up to five Memphis a big favorite I think the over has value too you’re actually going to get both quarterbacks in this game uh henigan and Garrett Green West Virginia cannot stop anybody and they half their rosters out and their coach staff is in complete disarray uh because half of them departed when Neil Brown got fired so who knows what you’re getting on a Tuesday night in Frisco Texas tonight intact interesting Matt Cox final thought anything else here uh Drake h of state I’m surprised no one asked about that game I just think it’s a fascinating match up tonight um I have no hard lean either way it’s like the team that embodies everything about the new nil induced player era of college basketball an All-Star team poor chemistry under achieving versus like the quintessential team of D2 dudes who all played together probably making $0.99 a game um cannot believe that this line is two points like what would we have thought this line would have been preseason probably like 12 14 18 who knows um in casc just a great matchup stylistic chess match if you have nothing else to do put your feet up watch this game and by the way I missed UCLA’s home game by about 72 hours Jeff na do their home with Prairie View tonight their large favorites I was right there by Paulie Pavilion as we talked talked about on the show yesterday yeah we we talk about it about 72 times we did I missed out I missed out by a couple of days such as life uh all right good luck with your plays there gentlemen thank you Jeff Nao congratulations again 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