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hello everybody Welcome to the United stands Manchester United lose 3-2 to Nottingham Forest and I’m sat here as we’ve been sat here so many times under the years and I’m sort of thinking how how are we back here old habits die hard leopards don’t change their spots and a set of man united players are an absolute soding disgrace again I mean look all due respect to Forest well done but we’re not here to talk about them we’re here to talk about Manchester United losing at home 3-2 to Nottingham Forest and our new manager has taken four points from 12 and our next game is Man City I mean literally he’s going to be in sacking area in one game’s time and obviously he’s not going to be sacked and no one wants him to be sacked but that’s the response of this squad to a new manager theyve what are they trying to do now sack two in a year you know double productivity absolute wankers not all of them but that is just it you know what it is it’s this this this I’ve I’m taking up this now I’m stealing it from rashford um it’s mine now you know what it represents low IQ low IQ footballers they are so [ __ ] low IQ they’ve got no common sense old habits things that you cannot train players shooting from [ __ ] 30 yards um not concentrating not picking up your men not closing down quick enough not how many many five yard passes did we miss today how many five yards passes did we miss unbelievable not just on the second goal where Bruno tries to play it to yoro there was so I remember ammad playing it in Manu and it’s ahead of him and he’s got a stretch to get it I’m like it’s a five yard [ __ ] pass you learn to do this when you’re five five yard pass and we’re not making them and I tell you what I figured it out I figured it out why we shoot from distance I’ve never really understood why under 10 half and now was shooting from distance I’m like they’re not even good shots they’ve got no power on them or they’re not on targets I think we figured out why we shoot all the time from distance because in training they’re shooting against [ __ ] Anor aren’t they so you shoot from 40 yards and it goes in what the players don’t realize is that you’re going to play against the goalkeeper who will save it easily absolute morons it’s just it’s so bloody frustrating because I know how the Press work you know how the Press work I know how the toxic element of our fan base work you know how the toxic element of our fan base work I know how player FC works you know how player FC works it won’t be long before the honeymoon disappears and it’s is he is the job too big for him um you know Portugal’s not the Premier League and that will start and the minute that starts we’re [ __ ] because that’s when the manager out movement starts no matter how small it cannot happen it cannot happen because I look at that game today and and there’s there’s probably two or three players that come out of that game with any credibility um the subs were [ __ ] by the way I mean I want to talk about Bruno I agree with Bruno coming off I agree with it but it’s an experiment and I think amim did it for that like we’re not better with Bruno off the pitch we’re worse so even if Bruno played badly today and he did we’re worse with Bruno off the pitch it happened last year he was playing bad towards the end of the season he got an injury and we were [ __ ] when he didn’t play We’re actually first without Bruno it doesn’t mean we’re good with him that’s a problem I’m I’m not saying we can never sub Bruno because we’re so good with him we’re not actually brilliant with Bruno but we’re actually [ __ ] worse without him so how do you solve that one because we are worse when Bruno goes off and when he’s on he wasn’t playing well but we’re actually worse our subs were [ __ ] really [ __ ] I mean rashford xery Mount they offered nothing I’m not saying they were worse than players that they were place but you meant to come off the bench and I want to play why did you put me on the bench I want to play Nothing average Maguire was all right when he came on I’ll give him that but the rest of them rubbish I I just don’t get it my big frustration with that game is and we’ll do the play ratings in a minute my big frustration with that game is this isn’t this is not acceptable there’s nobody that can sit me down and go you’re overreacting or you know this is not acceptable not not acceptable at all I’m glad that amam seeing the reality but inos need to wake the [ __ ] up stop putting ticket prices up stop sacking people and focus on I know why you’re doing that because you’re trying to make the club make more money look at the [ __ ] Squad it’s [ __ ] it can’t be trusted you’ve got to do something about it they cannot change they are low IQ players they are overpaid they are not good enough the reason teams like twitch are drawing with us and Forest are beating us at Old Trafford is because they’re better you overplay for [ __ ] you bought a load of crap you think you’ve bought a PS5 you’ve just got the box it doesn’t work it’s you’ve got to clear house they can’t even do a new manager bounce now because they’re already earning their money then you can’t trust these players they need replacing you need to do the biggest [ __ ] call that people been asking for years you must clear the Deadwood you must not get rid of the easy targets you’ve got to get rid of them you’re paying Salah wages to Harvey Barnes players you know you’re not play you’re being mugged off and you’re trying to get a manager to do a job of Harry Potter and you’re trying to get the fans to get excited about a dog [ __ ] on the floor the reality is we’re not going to applaud and clap a dog having a [ __ ] and amarim is not going to sprinkle magic dust over that you’ve got to start doing what so many fans have been saying for 10 years you’ve got to clear house you can’t do it on the cheap you’ve got to clear house in the long run you will make more money in the short run you’re going to have to take the hits you’re going to have to get rid of some of these players you’d be better off promoting a player who’s 18 from the youth team and just going with him for the next eight months than sticking with some of the [ __ ] that you’ve got like casemiro doesn’t even play he’s on 350k a week he’s not good enough Erikson doesn’t even get on the pitch 150k a week that’s that’s half a million pounds a week and we don’t even use them we’ve got a clean house we have to clean house it’s it’s just so obvious and look I’m disappointed in the subs they’re meant to be the game changers they offered nothing Mason Mount Marcus rashford Joshua xery it was me I’m not saying it was [ __ ] but it was me you’re coming off the bench to try and win your place and prove the manager wrong nothing nothing and you look at the start of the game I mean I just I just we we criticized the attack the defense cost us the game today our defense has been quite good this season somebody said before the Arsenal game we’ve got our defenses one of the best defenses in the league you I mean and this is just United I’m not surprised because it’s never consistent we probably have got one of the best defenses is in the league until today and then inexplicably Anana is Champions League Anana and this is what I mean this is why we fail we think we’ve got something sorted out and then we go and completely implode two goalkeeping errors out of [ __ ] Stevie wers Playbook unbelievable Anana would have saved that with a blindfold on if it had just stood still I in fact we could have we could have left Anana in the halftime dressing room and said wait five minutes put your feet on we’re just going to put a bag of cement in the middle of the goal for five minutes and it would have saved it there was no deflection it barely moved I would have saved that I’m not joking I would have saved that you would have saved that it it was straight down the middle and and you know what people will go how have we lost that game there’s 90 minutes at Old Trafford I’ll tell you why we’ve lost the game and I tell you why amarim can’t change it because you can’t train that you can’t train people when they’re making stupid [ __ ] school boy errors you can’t coach that you can’t coach Bruno on the second goal five yard pass to yoro not looking and playing it behind him you can’t coach an aror a shot straight down him and moving out the way you can’t coach on the third goal um Martinez and Anana just letting a [ __ ] pass I mean I know it’s a header but it’s easy it’s miscommunication Anana can dive and save it Martinez can clear it and they both go chucker Brothers chion to me to you to me to you oh it’s in you know basic mistakes basic and the and the first goal it’s a corner but look at the highest level this premier league is competitive it’s a competitive league isn’t it look at the goals when we conceded them although it’s a 90minut game we all know the ball’s probably only going to be in play for an hour and we all know it’s going to get stop start and we know that ultimately you might be living off five or six seven or eight shots on target if you give three goals up the chances of you winning a game are slim they’re really Slim look at when we concede you come out Old Trafford it’s roaring we concede straight away pin in the balloon you get back level halime right [ __ ] hell second half let’s take the momentum we’re attacking the stretford end let’s get it right this time start of the second half you can see it again the worst times to score the momentum just dies at the start of both halves and then we can see the third which basically kills us as well so I just think that the frustrating thing today for me is the inevitability of we’re going to have to clear house we’re going to have to clear house I mean Delo at least twice in that game well there was two shots from ridiculous places and then there was a corner across where he headed it from like 20 yards away just low IQ you’re not going to score like you’re literally not going to score and he wasn’t the only one and then there was multiple five yard passes that didn’t make their way so I think that when you look at it it’s like what I saw today and a few people mention ten hog it’s not ten hog it’s not amarim it’s the players it’s the low IQ like they can’t stop on a pitch doing the things that make them inconsistent they cannot stop the Hollywood pass I mean Anana was still hitting diagonals Maguire was hitting diagonals rashford was hitting diagonals when he came on like we were doing this under ten hog this is is amim telling them to do that I just don’t think amarim would come in and go you know what Lads I know I’m replacing ten hog because it didn’t work out but I bloody love it if he could keep misplacing five yard passes you could keep shooting from distance any Hollywood pass you can do please do that I just I just don’t think he’s telling them to do that and that’s not what sporting we’re doing I think what’s happening is on the pitch these players have a low IQ and just revert to Vibes moments you know oh I’m going to hit a Hollywood pass I’m going to I’m going to try and do the diagonal I’m going to shoot they just can’t change and the only way you’re going to change it if you can’t change the players on the pitch you got to change them in the shirt and that’s the only way forward I think I think it’s that simple we’ve got to start clearing some of these players out we’ve got till the end of the season but they just can’t be consistent I mean I mean look the horrible thing about tonight is you can talk about Doo you can talk about casemiro you can talk about Erikson you can talk about Maguire you can talk about rashford you can talk about all the players that everybody talks about but tonight I find myself going well can we rely on Anana can we really rely on anana you know the first goal the second even on crosses today SE cement in his feet like he’s just nowhere he’s not coming for crosses he’s nowhere um so that becomes another problem is Anana good enough really is he his distrib his distribution was [ __ ] today as well the Bruno dilemma is massive for me I mean when it comes to Bruno he needed to be subbed you C you know he was bad in that game he needed to be subbed and yet we’re worse without him so you need to sub a player but then you’re worse without him so how do you solve that he absolutely deserves to be subbed off on performance but what you can see is you can’t sub him off on leadership so basically we’re better off keeping an underperforming Bruno on the pitch even though he’s underperforming well that’s a massive problem that is a massive problem because I see I see klopp used to sub Salah I see pep subbing de bruyne um so so we walk out of that game with more problems than we started and that is soul destroying because I know there’s a lot of problems and am’s told us there’s a storm coming and he’s told us we’re not as good as we think we are and he’s told us everybody needs to run more but I look at it you know the way I look at it and I know a lot of people don’t like gacho and I know a lot of people get on it Rasmus and a few people were getting on at Mayu but I the way I look at it and I know this might be controversial I’m I’m like pick gono Rasmus Mayu as much as you can and let’s just work through it with them one’s 19 one’s 20 one’s 21 eventually they’re going to be 23 24 25 and we can mold them into what we want to be but some of these older players [ __ ] them off what’s the point what is the point they are inconsistent and we might need to do that with a lot more players than we think we’re [ __ ] miles off there is no quck the one positive about this is I’ve ranted much worse I know what we are and we are what we are we are what we are today I expected a bit of a bounce none four points from 12 for a new manager is [ __ ] it’s not [ __ ] on the manager it’s [ __ ] on the players they’ll start turning as well but you can see it on the pitch the Subs the subs showed no urgency Harry McGuire’s a professional he did the rest of them didn’t show any urgency it it was um it was it was it was shocking and um I just think as I said as I’ve said so many times it comes down to low IQ um and that’s what it comes down to um it’s um it’s amazing um what’s this all about I don’t know somebody just sent me something about that uh okay let’s um okay I’m not going to comment on that because I don’t really know what it’s all about um okay we’re going to do player 18s let me just catch up on your points ammad is our most creative player but 60% forward pass in the second half we going on the right to the low I said this Newton I said it half time so I don’t I’m not stealing anything here anyone who was watching the watch along will know um put Ahmad Central like rashford came on Central did [ __ ] all gacho struggled on the left just put Ahmad centrally on the right hand sides he’s going to be out of the game a lot put him in centrally I actually think he’d be better centrally he’d win more free kicks he’s got a lower Center gravity I’d try Amad centrally uh yellow bathing suit says Rasmus isn’t understudy at best he’s not good enough you see I we’re going to fall out here mate because I just think you you you would do well playing for Man United because you got low IQ I don’t know what you’re talking about like one chance one goal no service and Rasmus is the problem put erling Harland up front today no service put Harry Kane up front no service put levandowski up front no service I don’t know what I can have a conversation anyone can have a conversation but you’re you’re drifting into the area of waste of time you’re talking about something that’s just not the problem um sorry but the whole left side get get rid it’s obvious and and and Atif says Rasmus as well I just don’t know what you’re talking about Christmas sale 75% off our senior players and bring up under 21s at least they would try says Jackie boy and look on Rasmus we’re going to do player ratings I thought he had a really good first half Hold Up play one free kicks scored a goal second half mes will have been sat on the bench [ __ ] all going on uh how many more seasons have Bruno and Rashi rashford must be suffer says Landon uh you can’t keep picking uh zany’s talking about man I I just don’t know what’s wrong with part this is what worries me like you’re going after the wrong player I don’t understand the Rasmus thing I thought he played well in the first half no service in the second half I can’t you’re talking to the wrong person I mean you’re probably watching somebody else or listening to somebody else who has got no IQ as well but I I don’t honestly I’ve given Rasmus bad scores before and he wasn’t good in the second half but not because he wasn’t good there was nothing going on where was the chance creation where’s the crosses into the box nothing there’s nothing going on and unfortunately you get people who watch football and they’ll watch Harland not score and they’ll go [ __ ] he’s fell off and then but they haven’t watched the game like he’s not getting any service what’s he supposed to do the striker is the angel on the top of the Christmas tree but if you don’t put the Christmas tree up you can’t put the angel on and if we don’t build up the chances for the striker he can’t score a goal they’re the end product and the the product was [ __ ] tonight I think we looked worse because agarte got subbed says Jesse I mean he was one of the positives we’re supposed to be progressing but we keep falling behind this team needs to be dismantled says Janes I agree uh we still don’t create watch saaka Salah kiski uh and even Hutchinson Dio is the only one of our Wingers that comes close Tony says open heart surgery is needed Anana needs to be benched Bruno looked tired in the end uh are these guys really not up to playing just simple football forget the high press they’re struggling to play Simple passes says vinc you need a Chelsea 2023 summer no Europe could make it much easier to sell Anana Maguire Lindelof Delo massia Shaw casmiro Erikson Mount Anthony Fernandez well you know what Ryan Luke you know Luke Shaw becomes even more frustrating in this scenario not played for a year 170 Grand a week waste of space put everyone on the sale says Larry uh City next in the Prem was screwed says quinstar Kip an eye on Gibbs white over the past couple of Seasons honestly think he’d be a cheap signing for us says Callum forget the new manager bounce they should have won it for Kath on reception says Chris great Club not a great team enough says says dbush you cry about Bruno not being subbed off then he gets subbed off now you’re crying he’s been subbed up make your mind no what it is YouTube Ben you’ve got low IQ some of us have got high IQ I wanted Bruno to be subbed because he wasn’t playing well but what it is is I don’t deal in absolutes I deal in evidence so so Bruno deserved to be subbed but when we took him off we were worse so we’ve got a huge problem where we need to sub Bruno but we’re worse without him he wasn’t playing well mate but we were worse without him so solve that one because your brain can’t solve it because you want to go oh everyone said so take Bruno off and then we were worse without him yeah but he was he wasn’t very good on the pitch so how do you solve that so answer that one mate and we’ll all listen wow true paying wages to Barnes players says Stig amme him costers when he took off Bruno says quinstar I would have took Bruno off here we go again with Harry Potter Deadwood uh says Debush Anna class one mistake and you’re being toxic I’ll leave that to the chat it’s just cost us three points mate there is zero blame on amarim support at all cost says gjr why is it player FC cannot acknowledge when their player has a bad game I’ve got players that I like at United I’ve consistently given G them low scores because man United’s more important to me than player FC I get that you want to give an aror a shower but like or maybe be in the shower with him if he’ll let you but what about today is going to make you say he had a good game like why the player FC even [ __ ] exist you are the most toxic thing about football you know it’s an entertainment game and you know you meant to support Manchester United you are meant to dissect why we lose a game and you can’t do that if you’re fantasizing about knocking one out to your favorite player come on actually do analyze a game of football regardless of the picture on you all um Bruno off was fine but agarte needed to stay says annel we are making substitutions on minutes let’s not forget delit came off that shouldn’t have happened as well aarte shouldn’t have come off I I think this is our um Fitness Department um this has to be the worst manager bounce in history says Stig January transfer window is critical now says Anthony it’s better to have first season as a bad one says AB well I’ve always said this actually I’ve always said this I would rather things got worse and got better than get better and get worse and what I mean is every manager’s had a new manager bounce and then it’s gone wrong I’d rather the reality be [ __ ] at the start and get better which is why we should have kept ranik Del’s passion but he’s just not good enough says Jonas I honestly wanted to accept Anana but he just proved he’s not quality I mean it’s one game Reagan it’s disappointing but it is one game we looked more threatening with Bruno the subs didn’t pay off says Constantine a lot of these players are simply uncoachable says Daz players out only agarte kept his head up says Kia anyone blaming Amin is a top pratts uh open heart surgery says EXO that was from alandi what a disgrace what can Amarin do when you have unforgivable mistakes says Tom if it was me I would end all their contracts says Jackie boy you can you can take it Mark rashford isn’t using it anymore this TBH um you know what it’s rashford celebration and he I’m not I don’t even need to talk about rashford tonight it’s irrelevant but that for me now represents low IQ every time I see it no not from rashford the whole [ __ ] team this game exposed all our players the more that we have the mindset that players like the low rashford Bruno Martinez and an Maguire Mount or not good enough says slavin Rome wasn’t built in a day says Nasha right I’m going to do player ratings because they’re waiting to go in Manchester in the fan forum and it is a Saturday night and we’ve just been beaten so they’ve got a lot to say right uh player ratings I mean look I’m not going to spend too long on this um but I’m going to say a four for Anana I mean 2.5 is a bit of a joke um I hope for a bit of realism in this I’d say a four um distribution wasn’t good and two of the three goals are on him and I think at 1 we probably win that game might not have been Scrappy but you can’t you can’t give momentum up like that at this level and and look for that one goal alone I know what he’s done he thinks it’s going in the bottom corner but as a goalkeeper it can’t go where you stood you can’t anticipate something and then leave where it goes shocking uh Lenny yoro I thought honestly uh a six I mean look people are always going to Mark people down when we lose I never understand it you can play you can have players that play well in a game we’ve conceded goal because of other people’s mistakes that doesn’t make everybody else [ __ ] I thought yo for a first game average six um delit for me 6.5 uh you know 5.3 I’m getting a bit frustrated with the player ratings to be honest I might just stop them because we’re battling against people who don’t understand football like they don’t understand that you can have players that do okay or well in a game where you lose because it’s not their fault and I don’t I thought for me delit again had another good performance I think he got took off too early but I thought he had a good performance 5.3 based on what what what mistakes did theit make I just I just don’t understand it anyway look I I shouldn’t you know it’s my player rating 6.5 uh Martinez five for me um yeah obviously the First goal’s on him the third goals on him that’s two mistakes you can’t afford it at this level uh Ahmad uh um yeah I think it was one of ahmad’s worst games but still he got an assist still is the danger man so I’d give him a six uh agarte for me was a seven uh six your player ratings are [ __ ] I can’t wait to change what we’re going to change with the player ratings because we’ll get better ones um this is just petulant it’s silly he’s man of the match six so agarte let me get this right agarte was average um yeah seven for me good performance from aarte obviously got as The Equalizer and was very tenacious uh very good at winning the ball back and one of the few players that that kept going I just think that um it was a shame he had to come off uh Mayu was a six for me um I thought he had a you know an average game still coming back from injury adjusting to a new manager but you know for his age I think the confidence on the ball is is is is good and it’s a player I want to build with so yeah definitely give him me six it’s not being a dictator Nash it’s the fact that everybody’s getting a bad score like you’d think we’d lost 90 like nobody from the player ratings from UL lot has had a six yet mad uh Delo was a five yeah defin I mean 3.6 [ __ ] hell a five below average for me from doow yet again and the shooting he shouldn’t start next game I mean he probably won’t anyway but he he shouldn’t start um uh br Bruno five yeah good goal good moments but too many misplaced passes we were better with him on the pitch but that’s only because it was worse without him um a five uh gacho it’s got to be a five um yeah I mean I don’t think he was any worse than Mount or rashford or xery but again it just didn’t work with the final product um so it’s got to be below average um Rasmus I don’t I struggle with Rasmus because I think goal really good in the first half really involved in the first half was tracking back in our own box good holdup play so I’d probably give him a seven for the first half but second half literally nothing there’s nothing going on like literally could have been sat on the bench so I think I would give him a six um which is in between the two uh mazwi six Maguire I thought was the best of the subs six um Mason Mount five just nothing I don’t know I don’t remember how long he was on to be fair but if that’s somebody who’s coming off the bench in a man united shirt on 250k a week and that’s what we’re going to get it’s just not worth it and I will be critical of this because if you start the game and you don’t take your opportunity you’re going to get called out for it but if you coming off the bench and you didn’t start you’ve got a point to prove whenever I used to get benched I [ __ ] hated it and when I came on I was I almost wanted the team or the player in my position to not have a good game so that I could come on and have a good game that was going to be why I wouldn’t be on the bench next weekend and I’m sure many of you share this so it happened to me a few times um where I’d been injured or what or wherever I’d lost my place let’s be honest and I’d be watching the game and I’d want the person in my position or positions to not play well and then i’ come on and I’d [ __ ] bust the gut to make sure I didn’t get benched again did he do it no was he Terrible No but did he bust a gut no so I’m going to call it out just [ __ ] lost same again did he come on I thought he was going to start today did he come on bust a gut make a difference no there was a couple of good balls to Delow the volley from the edge of the Box might have deflected in but come on for what we pay did he come off the bench bust a gut and show why he should be starting the next game absolutely not uh same with z see uh amarim today six for me um I don’t really know what he can do honestly I don’t really know what he can do um individual mistakes probably should have started mazwi shouldn’t be taking off the lit and agarte I understood the Bruno one I’d imagine mazwi was rotated I’d imagine delit and agarte it was because he was told they could only play so many minutes Bruno would have took off but you’ve learned that you don’t do that so he’s still learning isn’t he um but I’m not putting any blame on the manager and if people want to start that this early that’s up to you I was stubborn on ten hog I will I will double down on it with amarim I’m back in the manager I’m not giving him low scores when players are making fuckups like that it’s not on amarim when people are shooting from 40 yards it’s not on amarim when people are misplacing 5 yard passes and it’s not on amarim when people are letting [ __ ] goals in that you know a 9-year-old would save yeah did he we would have had a draw if Anana had Stood Still we would have won if Anana and Martinez had have done their job so that’s the fine margins that you’re giving someone a five out of 10 for we would have won the game if it wasn’t for two fuckups at the back so yeah um thanks everyone for watching uh we are over on the in Manchester now very different opinions to mine um somebody said uh who is going to be on the fan forum that um gacho will be sold to Genoa not Real Madrid so you might get different opinions that you agree with on there but it’s all about your opinions as we will always read out and get involved in absolute Legends today not a legendary result uh make sure you smash a like on the video and subscribe we are on the road to 2 million remember and we’re 10 away from uh 98 8 3 I’m told 83,000 so please do subscribe bottom right hand corner thanks everyone for watching get over onto the fan forum see what they’ve got to say let’s get in there with Deadwood out not Ed woodw out Deadwood out dead wood out oh man of the match yeah smash the like for agarte Head and Shoulders he should be sponsored by them he’s got hair head and shoulders above everybody else definitely man of the match surprised it wasn’t a little bit bigger actually um actually in second place was um Rasmus with uh 19% and then various others uh delit 15% so quite a spread with everybody else but I would have thought agarte would have got a lot more um well done thanks everyone get yourself over to the fan forum I’ll speak to you all in a bit
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