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Donnie and doly the team is supported by able auctions.con help good job ran all right it is Tuesday we’re just waiting on Elliot Freedman it is Monday actually I’ve done that twice today where I’ve called today Tuesday it’s actually Monday all of our guests today including Elliot hopefully standing by shortly are sponsored by bassant Motors bassant has taken Santa’s job and are bringing the gifts get rates from 4.99% uh gifts with vehicle purchase and much more learn more at bassant Motors that’s bent motors.com have we got Elliot outstanding joining us now from Hockey Night in Canada 32 thoughts podcast during the Hornets Nest around Vancouver Elliot Freeman Elliot thanks for doing this sir my guys how you guys doing very well uh very well I don’t know where to begin here but let’s let’s start with the the Buffalo Sabers and Dylan cousins all sorts of rumors surrounding him Bowen Byam as well how how serious is that talk and are the coocks involved look I think like I think you’d be naive to think that uh look I I don’t know as much about Byrum to be honest okay um but I have reported cousins and I do think think there are a lot of teams calling the Buffalo savers about Dylan cousins um I really uh uh I’ve been open about it I and I nobody has disputed that to me Don and I think you’d have to be insane to believe that the Buffalo Sabers or if the Buffalo Sabers ever were to move him that the Vancouver canox wouldn’t be among 31 other teams calling and saying okay 23y old right shot Center um uh scored 30 goals a couple years ago uh and as I was reminded by my podcast partner Kyle boscus played in the bchl a few years ago so he’s a you know he’s a Western Canadian kid of course the Canucks would be at least calling to see what the possibilities were and and everybody is like I think the amount of teams that have called on cousins has been very high but obviously to this point the Sabers have not done anything with it 29th overall uh Buffalo Sabers I know that’s nothing new but there’s so many players so many young talented players did you expect more from that franchise this time around 100% 100% you know I mean look you take a look the Atlantic division it’s been pretty boring the last few years it’s some combination of Toronto Boston Florida Tampa Bay they always make the playoffs they always finish one two three four in that order and you’ve got Ottawa can’t get in Buffalo can’t get in Detroit can’t get in and now Montreal was going through their rebuild so I mean I think we’ve all thought better about Detroit at times I know we’ve all thought better about Buffalo and Ottawa at times like honestly Don people say to me what do you think’s wrong with Buffalo I mean you know they changed the owner and he’s done everything to try to win they paid players younger and older they’ve gone with quote unquote hockey people as the managers they’ve gone with uh Kevin Adams who’s a bit of a different background as the manager even though he played in the NHL they’ve changed coaches they’ve brought in veterans they’ve taken out veterans like Don like I don’t have good answers here anymore all I know is that’s one of the best fan bases in the NHL and they deserve a lot better Elliot you saw Jim Rutherford on hockey night Canada postgame conu Bruins what were your thoughts and and and like are you like some people and think that he’s just waiting and itching to pull off a big deal Elliot well last time he was on he was spitting a lot more fire Rick like that he was uh um you know when I saw the result of the game you know they play very poorly on Saturday night everybody knows that I think we were all kind of wondering to see what kind of mood he’d be in and I think he just decided this time he wasn’t going to do that again no matter what happened uh but the thing is like the thing about Rutherford is and we’re very lucky in media that he’s around he gives us Clues right like he doesn’t say nothing he gives us Clues and I think Rick like the the toughest thing and Rick you know this because like I honestly think you’re the mo I I I hate to blow smoke uh on you while I’m on the show but I I think you’re the most plugged in guy there in the market and you know how challenging it can be because on one hand I think he they just got Demco back they just got Miller back they want to see how this goes but on the other hand he’s got a wish list he’s like Santa I’ve got my list I’m checking it twice I’m gonna find out it’s gonna be naughty and nice and if he can do that he will do it so I like I just think he’s been and also the other thing about Rutherford you have to remember m is that he likes to go early he does not like to wait he likes to go early he sees what he wants and he goes and gets it so I think that’s the challenge with Vancouver is you know one I think he wants to see what his team looks like with Demco and Miller but on the other he’s the kind of guy and alven I think is very much cut from the same clo they will strike at any time what about besser his comments about the contract what do you uh gleam from that and uh they’re obviously not close but besser and his future in Vancouver I thought those comments were benign I just think that for Rutherford I I think that that’s just we’ll take care of it as we take care of it I don’t I don’t think there’s much to read into those um you know I I I still think there’s interest from the team I still think there’s interest from the player there’s always a risk you take when you’re the team and you say let’s see how it goes this year but I think the Vancouver cans know if they want to keep Brock fer they’re going to have to pay him and uh if it gets to that point I think they will I got to go back I I got to go back Elliot to to to to cousins and Byam you set the the city on fire this morning no no one else does it like you but was that you spitballing or you hearing like Pon uh for cousins and Byam like what what what was it this morning when you on your great podcast announced that you know that that was that was spitballing um you know like I I like I think this look like do I think the cans have talked to Buffalo yeah I do do I think the Sabers have talked to the kaks yes I do do I think that that’s the exact combination that they’ve talked about no I don’t know that but I mean look like I think the two teams have talked to each other I think the the Sabers have players that kanaks like um I mean you’ve talked about their interest that they like that Byrum’s the kind of guy that they would like before Rick um and I think that like like I think the kanaks have players like the Sabers it sounds crazy to say because they’ve lost 10 in a row but they don’t want to make their team worse like they look at their team on paper and they think their team should be better than it is so if you’re going to make a deal with them and you’re going to take a good player off their roster like what’s the match and so I think like that’s what I’m doing there I I do think that the two teams have talked I do think they’ve talked about players like to me that that’s just me putting an idea together but I can’t say that that’s something that’s been on the table for both those sides but I could say this I could see Vancouver being interested in those players and I could see Buffalo being interested in Pon like if all those players would be available there would be like again like with cousins there’d be a lineup of teams who’ want those guys Y and it’s very obvious and you know what it’s very obvious guys like all you have to do is listen to toet and to Rutherford yep they don’t there’s something about their mixx right now that they don’t like bingo bingo uh Elliot JT Miller returns to the kxs last week and I believe you said I’m paraphrasing here and I apologize for that but you said something to the effect of I think he has to bend and other guys ha have to bend when it comes to JT Miller and the whole group how would you describe from what you know the situation in the KX dressing room well I think that uh Miller is kind of a unique personality in that room he’s very demanding of himself and others and uh like the thing and like you’ve got like sometimes I think like like to me it’s like I always used to compare like Messier and sundine like Messier was the fiery guy everybody knew what he felt all the time and I know it didn’t go well in Vancouver with Messier but generally he’s considered a very good leader okay and sandine was always quiet he was always Placid he never sto said stuff publicly but one thing I learned about him privately is that he burned to win burned to win and I think that sometimes we look at people and we say oh well they don’t show emotion outwardly so they don’t really care about winning and I have learned that that kind of thinking is stupid it is 100% stupid so I don’t think like guys like Hughes especially just because Hughes doesn’t come out breathing fire like Miller does sometimes it doesn’t mean he doesn’t want to win like he car obviously by the way he plays and the way he trains he cares a lot about winning but Miller is a unique personality um in the Canucks room is that he’ll really push and he’ll really Press buttons however the thing about that is you can do it up to a point and then you know people say okay there’s a limit and I think that what the conu are all working on together is okay jtu can be demanding but there’s got to be a limit and some other players have to be more accepting of his demanding nature you don’t you there’s a line and you don’t let him go past it but you have to understand that he is trying to make us all better and I think that’s what this is all working on like where is the line how do we establish the line of what is acceptable to demand of other players and what other players have to accept of in terms of being what’s demanded of them and the thing is like the thing with the thing I thought was really interesting was he’s obviously I saw scrum last week and you know what like like I know some of the Vancouver reporters took some heat because they didn’t press him on it I think that’s BS I would like to stand up for the Vancouver reporters there first time a guy comes back he wants to establish some ground rules I don’t think there’s anything wrong with the reporters there saying okay like you know we’ll I think that’s all right um but like in the game when Hughes got crosschecked at the end of the second period like Miller was Miller he was the first guy who went to his Aid and I thought that was a really good sign you can be calm but on the ice you can go into your other personality just so you know things didn’t go all that well for Matt sine in Vancouver either Elliot you know I gotta tell you it’s such a shame because you know I I took me too long to appreciate his greatness in Toronto and since he’s been gone I’ve even realized even more what an incredible personality he was and what one Mor reality if you don’t mind how how serious I don’t mind at all how serious are the thank you for that how serious are the conects about moving on from uh Vincent de har yeah I just think it just you know it just hasn’t worked unfortunately so they’re they’re they’re trying to see what the options are out there and they’re willing to consider a few things you know I I think one of the things too is with the group of players that keeps going up and down I think the Canucks well some of it’s obviously for cap reasons Don but I think they’re also trying to be eventually you get to a point where you want want to be a bit more consistent with who’s in and who’s out right like you reach a point where you like players want to know and I think even the coaches want to know and the team wants to know what is you need to have dep but what’s our more consistent lineup and I think they would like to get to that Elliot above and beyond all the best this season uh best of the season to ellot we appreciate it oh my pleasure guys Merry Christmas and happy holidays to all the great hockey fans of conu nation I will be coming out again this year oh ni ton they they invited me back so I always say this the conu nation as much as we poke fun at each other in incredibly generous people incredibly generous people and I’m always appreciative some people wondering if you have a robe on Elliot no you know what it is it’s it’s one of those like uh like jackets that look like the sheep skin like it’s like the fax she she skin are you kidding me like I I gotta tell you something I would never come on this show in a robe because what if we had the malfunction it would just be it not do that oh please do one of these days okay not the malfunction part the Rob part just the Rob part okay no problem we’ll do it sometime thanks for this Elliot appreciate it take care
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