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dailyfaceoff.com and our Insider Frank selly hello Frankie boy how’s your birthday uh pretty quiet I had a daughter and a wife that were out of town I had a an oldest son who was out of town so yeah I was uh just kind of went and had a steak Yeah on on Friday night had a steak and then that is what the geriatrics do these days yeah it is yeah yeah steak and some spinach and what a night yeah then swung by the old Canadian Tire to grab some things on the way home and then in bed by 7:45 go to Bingo but I was tired yeah something like that something like that thanks for your contributions on Friday Frank yes thank you Frank very nice the guden one was so good so so good I got this thing makes me feel a nicey this is all up there in Calgary Canada on the sports in there Calgary Canada the you soup and buns buts I’m hearing butts that doesn’t make me feel very nicey I’ve been talking to Pinder here yeah me and P smile pal binder uh if you weren’t paying attention over the course of the weekend the St L Blues fired a coach and hired a coach uh and what we’ve learned is the Boston Bruins they they have things that are coveted by other teams as this is the I believe the third coach now who was fired by the Bruins and then hired less than two weeks later by some other team who may or may not have had a coach at the time they just decided H he’s pretty good coach uh what do you what do you again since we’ve talked the firing has happened it’s Joe sacko on an interim basis and now the St Louis Blues have Montgomery behind their bench thoughts on both well for one look there’s obviously a huge amount of trust that existed between Doug Armstrong and Jim Montgomery from his time just a few years ago as an associate coach so last week uh mentioned on our pod that you know if you were to list off a bunch of places that might be willing to consider firing their coach to hire Jim Montgomery St Louis was definitely on that list it was St Louis Anaheim Detroit um all teams that that have lots of ways to go in terms of where they’re heading and I think that relationship kind of puts it over the top you don’t have to guess it’s not like hey what would this be like if we brought in this guy he was on our bench and worked in our organization I talked to a couple players there that played for Montgomery you know a few years ago as an assistant or associate and they said everyone loved him so I think that part stands out um the commitment also that St Louis was willing to make uh fiveyear deal is rather extraordinary in these times given that uh you know a guy just a couple years into his tenure now will stretch you into the top 10 and longest tenard coaches um like look Drew Bannister he got 22 games fulltime as a non- interim head coach in the NHL these guys are it’s the not here for long league and beyond that um when you look at Montgomery his track record I think the only thing I’m left with is asking it’s great that you made the decision to hire him and bring him in but what are your honest and realistic expectations for this team in this current competitive cycle do you think that this is a playoff team that has underachieved or do you think that this is a team that has just had some poor coaching contribute to where they are right now or is it just one of those moves you make regardless if if you know that this is a Ser this is an upgrade whatever you think of you know top five coach in the league I gotta go get him barui I guess wore out his that that happens and then they move to banister and they’re not feeling and I think it was was it Bush navic or somebody who’s kind of sniping not St but I mean it was kind of veiled coach our breakout was bad and we changed our breakout and we played better basically is exactly what he said yeah so I I but I I wonder when you look around and you you aren’t sold on your coach whether you’re a cup Contender this year or the year after like you say it’s a fiveyear deal so I mean that’s clearly what what they wanted the guy it’s what they were prepared to do or maybe Montgomery had leverage probably like a lot Frank five years so the other thing I really liked about it was that Doug Armstrong didn’t pull any punches it was not like well you know he just said we had a better Coach available to us and we decided to do it like no offense Drew banister but please sir step aside yeah the real guys here yeah honesty which probably is tough for banister to hear but it’s I think it is the case for sure I mean think about the way that he’s built this team though like this summer you see two guys that are rfas being jammed up by their team trying to get wedged into the salary cap whatever remaining dollars the Edmonton Oilers have left and Doug Armstrong says yeah I’ll offer sheet two guys from the same team at the same exact time if you want loyalty get a dog I mean that’s that’s really the thought process Drew banister is awesome having you here but sorry we got something better he always the ruthless way that he’s done it is the way I think so many more teams in the NHL should that’s how they should operate what what are we playing nice in the sandbox for yeah agreed banister is still going to get his money so and he wasn’t highly paid to begin with and the fact that after being an inter room he only got a two-year deal in the at the offset of this in the summer told you that he wasn’t really that convinced that this was the guy anyway yeah it felt like a a placeholder and any he has been sorry Ryan any idea what the uh the salary is for Montgomery there five times it’s probably expensive that four to six range seem reasonable for probably of his ilk yeah y that’s a big gap it’s two million bucks but it’s a lot of money yeah seems to R my guess is banister was in the one point something yeah yeah the uh the Flames are in Ottawa tonight to open up a four- game road trip we were just kind of looking at some some numbers the Ottawa Senators are the Ottawa Senators the senators of old are the senators of today uh they don’t start great they don’t rebound they don’t make the playoffs they get they got young Talent they draft high they make maybe some question moves fire a coach bring in a coach fire a coach it’s I just I would think for the fans they got to be sick to death of it I wonder about the new owner and what his appetite is there what’s your I guess just kind of a blanket kind of commentary on this the state of the Senators it’s tough to watch because I think they are a different but in a lot of ways worse off scenario than the Buffalo Sabers for instance at least with the Sabers you can point to it and say Well they’re the youngest team in the league statistically right when you look at some of these guys on the sends not only are they a little bit older a touch older they also have like Mega long-term deals attached to almost all of them so you know one of the names that popped up in conversation around the league over the weekend was hey the sends are are potentially willing to explore making some changes and Josh Norris’s name has popped up in conversation okay five years left at 7.95 with a massive injury history having missed a 100 plus games with the same shoulder injury I get the idea of wanting to move a core piece but it almost feels like if that truly is all that the S are willing to consider at this exact moment in time which I don’t know that to be fact but that seemed to be the sense from some teams that I believe have been in dialogue with them is that an authentic shake up is there real value in Josh naris are people clamoring to get their hands on it they’re GNA ask you to eat some of that money probably right like it’s going to be one of those things where it’s like okay you can make the deal you’re probably not better for it so are you just moving the chairs around it feels like it I so look um I think the SS had been in evaluation mode for a while and Steve stos came in with new owner Michael ANL they had a ton of success together in the o but now it kind of feels like not all that different than some of the other teams that they’re stuck in the same rut with how do we break out of this to continue to do the same thing year after year and smash your head against the cinder block wall trying to break through it doesn’t it doesn’t feel like it’s working you’re not winning with these guys what’s what’s the need to hold them so tight as a security blanket and it’s interesting because I just wonder as a head coach if you’re a coach that’s out of work or just in the league when I look at you know Josh Norris and and pinto and all of that but I still feel like between some some young talented on the back end they’re obviously trying to do what they can in net I don’t know that that is working for them I think there’d be a lot of coach that would be like I’m up I I’d love to work with that it’s young still even though they’re they the guys that are younger now 25 26 they they they’re aging every year they’re a year older I don’t know if you know how that works but I feel like a coach would look at that and say I would love to have that kind of potential skill ability on my team to try and craft but no one’s been able to do it we were kind of going at the coach what did you make of the coaching higher in Ottawa I don’t think the coach is is the problem when you have the same results with the same core through multiple different regimes now to me it’s on the core it’s it’s no longer on the coach and and you can say what you want about Travis Green I I went to Ottawa for training camp um he mentioned that not only did he share some of that same excitement that you’re talking about but one of the first things that he learned about that group when he went there was just how willing they were to learn and do it differently that they took ownership and responsibility for some of the issues that they had in the past and were willing to try and do it differently I I’m not seeing anything different I’m seeing the same similar mistakes being made by the same players time after time and now what’s really tough to figure figure out is look at lenaar like to me I thought we’d have a tremendous study this year in one of the true things that I think analytics has really struggled to Define which is what is the impact of Team structure on an individual goalie and their metrics yeah and then you look at this year and you say Okay lenus olar 247 games played the NHL with a 917 save percentage for his career he goes to Ottawa plays 13 games and he’s 881 okay so you might think okay bitty team structure in front of him isn’t that what we’re seeing now that’s contributing to lenus omark’s numbers and then you actually dive in and again some things under dispute or not but you look at the metrics and it says that the Ottawa Senators are fourth in the league in expected goals against meaning they’re actually supposedly defending pretty well and now it’s actually on the guy that’s supposed to be making saves that just isn’t 17 goals against in his last four games and some really ugly ones so are the Senators actually different and are just getting bad goal tending or is this more of the same well forsberg’s got better numbers behind the same team Swan also is off to a rough start um so I I just don’t know what it’s changed right so in Boston I knew my defenseman was going to take this side here and like I don’t want to make excuse for these guys but I don’t know like I don’t think they’re that good defensively I I don’t either I I don’t I just don’t think they’re that good in general I just don’t think they’re deep enough boy and you hear you just think I think about you retro it’s the things that you can control effort block some shots let’s give a crap there’s there’s got to be there’s enough skill there on the back end that there’s guys in that back end that you’d move your franchise for I mean it’s it should be or are we overestimating because I’m guessing none of us are sitting down and watching regular basis right well it’s the same thing probably with Buffalo though like are these guys really do we fall honestly I Buffalo might have turned the corner here they would just went three in a row in California without Tage Thompson no yeah no so what I’m but that’s not the point I was making it’s not is Buffalo in or out my point is do teams fall in love and just overvalue the pieces that they have maybe they’re just not that good I would think that that happened a fair bit from right now just sitting and thoughts on it they’ve overpaid these kids too soon without having them earned results right like Jeff Sanderson is a good friend of mine played with him Buffalo like his kid got paid what is he getting almost eight a year he got more than eight and he hadn’t played a 100 games in the league yeah you got 60 some million dollars and I get it because it’s and they don’t want these guys to walk and it’s like they did the same thing with kachuck they did it with sta like it’s kind of this Edmonton thing we saw for decades so worried about guys leaving they pay him too soon and then it’s like well where’s the hunger right well I think that’s a fair question asked but then at the same time if you’re actually in the chair and building a team not only are you worried about them walking but you’ve also just guaranteed a really great cap number for your team sure moving forward like where’s the balance there I think on on paper it’s 100% the smart business play Yeah from both a team team building perspective and also a cap perspective but I I don’t know the proper balance what about Buffalo has anyone paid attention I was just as you were talking looked at the standings and was shocked to see in in a playoff spot that’s tough division they’re third yeah but the way that division works you could go from third to eth in one week no no for sure but I listen we know Buffalo Boston just made a change we’ll see what they look like under a new coach there’s clearly you know a want to be better Tampa has been pretty mediocre after a hot start it like for Buffalo to get in that division would be a significant achievement I understand it’s tight but they’re there they’ve done what Montreal hasn’t what Detroit hasn’t what Ottawa hasn’t in the sense that they’re hanging at the quarter pole I picked the Sabers to make the playoffs this year one team I didn’t pick to make the playoffs this year that I’m I’m I’m getting real closer a declaration is the Calgary Flames you liking what you see Frankie boy I I am I totally different vibe around this team just just speaking to people that are in and around there on a daily basis they said on a night to night just being around the locker room and hearing those guys talk and and how excited they are after games it’s it’s night and day different from the last couple years and beyond that they seem to have been linked up on this us against everyone else mentality that look I think is really powerful you can say what you want but there’s plenty of examples around the league in recent years of teams that have overachieved based on a belief that they have in themselves and and the rest of the group I I know I’ve seen all the numbers I I realize it’s been like 17 games without scoring more than three in regulation geez some might look at that and say hey this is a team that is achieving unsustainable results I would actually look at the inverse in that and say it’s probably just really unlucky that they’ve gone that long without scoring more than three and that that will change in relatively short order it also tells you they’re getting goal tending and good team defense right Frank that’s an area that I think we we had a lot of questions about we all hoped Dustin wolf could be a future star for this team but what you’ve seen from him and vladar and the decor in front of them been much more structured than what we’re used to see and and look we’re at the point in the season now where you begin to like the first couple weeks are a fluke right and you know any team can go 50 and one to start and the real question is what happens when you get punched in the face and I know we’ve heard that a lot over the last few weeks with Mike Tyson but the Flames they got punched in the face and had a a reckoning in relatively short order of how quickly that rebound and they became a 500 team the response since then has been the most impressive part and you have you know game like Minnesota over the weekend one of the best teams in the west to this point in the year they don’t blink they find a way to continue to scratch and Claw and that scrappiness I think is going to really serve them well I really do I love that we don’t have to hear how close they are they don’t have to come out and tell us that they’re a real good group we really like each other like I yawn every time I hear that if if you have to tell people it’s probably not true the real just like the same couple that continues to post on Instagram how much they love each other yeah yeah yeah it’s I mean because we do it every day and you feel like if if you jump in on it it’s November you guys oh you guys you’re all but like you say that it feels like there’s some things and the power play has not been good it’s gotten a little bit better so you wonder well if the go goes down a little bit well what if the scoring goes up just a little bit and if maybe you know the defensive play goes down what if the Special Teams improves just a little bit because there’s room for both of those to improve but it does have the feel like you say R we we’re all these guys they they care for each other it’s a great room they got a great room it feels like for the first time in a long time I’m I’m I would buy it when if guys are saying yeah guys we have a great time we hang out it’s great room yeah years ago you feel like that’s legit right like we watched this group under Daryl with with he wouldn’t name a captain and it felt like there were factions and guys did not want to go to the rink it was storm clouds the moment they got out of their car in the parking lot two years later it’s night and day is that Huska is it Connie is it the leadership group where what do you tri that attribute that to Frank I think it’s a little bit of everything I think the biggest thing is they cleaned out the room of players that don’t want to be here you I I think it’s another reason why look at a team like Columbus this summer and the changes that Don woodell made if you don’t want to be a Blue Jacket we’ll do whatever we need to to get rid of you doesn’t matter hey Patrick l we we will we will get nothing back for you quite literally nothing and we will pay a second round pick to move on from you because we want players who want to be here that’s what the Flames I mean look how many guys are gone that that could have stayed could have signed long term guys that they offered to yeah there was constant drama constant noise and now it’s like hey it’s all good if Calgary is not your your flavor of the week we’ll find we’ll find guys that want to be here I had I had it some something dawned on me last week and uh wow alert the media oh trust me I made a big deal of it on the show when is Conroy gonna go and just completely change lanes and go after guys now now he’s adding to this team we’ve got so much confidence in the group we’re going to bring we got a score we need a one more score and we are home ICE through the playoffs I I don’t think he’s thinking that way at all but he is what he is trying to add he is uh look the the right shot Center is no surprise I think I talked about that week two of the season um they’re looking but they want to find someone that fits their age scheme and is part of this next iteration somewhere in between 22 and 2 5 years old that that can be here for a long time so that’s what they’re looking for they’re looking for more scoring punch um I can tell you they’re actively engaging in conversation to try and find these guys and whether or not that materializes like they’ve got the assets the Picks and Prospects to be able to make something happen should something like that surface the problem is those are exactly the type of guys that most teams are trying to keep yeah so and that’s why I want to bring a name up here I mean what’s going on with Trevor zigis where’s the market at will Pat verbi make a trade that he doesn’t like or will he just sit on an asset until it turns to dust like he’s kind of done with John Gibson here like what’s happening with the Ducks where are they at with zigras the Ducks are a mess and I don’t know what’s happening there um I I I tend to think that the way that Trevor Zeus’s stock has plummeted around the league I mean watch his play watch his body language uh look at his production It’s been a it’s been a grind and not just for him it’s been a grind for a lot of their young guys that have been in similar spots so when will that alarm Bell go off when will changes be made I I think before anything you’d probably have to start with the coach because you know I’ve been on record for six weeks even going back to late last season talking about how difficult the environment has been with Greg Cronin there on these players um look I think that’s the easiest place to start make a coaching change see if you can get everyone to rebound instead of trading guys where their stock is at the absolute lowest that it’s been you’re you’re better off hanging on to the asset because history would show that you know it should and could or will get better uh but look at how this has worked with John Gibson this is going back two regimes now Bob Murray you know there was some talk hey John Gibson could be moving on then they said well we want significant value we’re not eating any part of his contract and we want big pieces in return then this continues to drag on and on now suddenly Lucas doal has grabbed the net it’s been three four years now since this last popped up in conversation and yet here he is at a point where not only will the ducks have to eat salary in order to make something happen but they’re also unlikely to get much because his play has devolved to the point where the question is and we just had Carter Hutton on our daily Faceoff live a half hour ago is John Gibson a starter in today’s NHL his answer is no yeah I don’t think so five years has been brutal he was a very good player before that he’d be your Team USA starter five years ago not anymore on that team going back to exactly what we just talked about with the Flames John Gibson has shown that he does not want to be there anymore right I don’t care what you need to do to move on from John Gibson again I don’t care if we’re not getting anything and we’re paying something we’ve got a ton of Picks and Prospects what’s one more pick move on you mention the body language on zis there was a goal and I saw it on social media I meant to grab it not that we were going to necessarily talk to him but I just wanted to keep it he scores a goal and I don’t know if it was necessarily that pretty or not but he just kind of goes to the corner and stops and couple of the guys come in there is no Elation there’s no joy it was just kind of May it was kind of like maybe that gets he’s got two right it’s boy this a guy who was a mid 60s point player as a 19 and 20y old and then not only that the creativity everywhere you got to have some passion for the game a little bit if it’s gone how like well when it gets sucked out of you from your GM who demands that you go to Florida to train in the off season and to the point where the team gets fine 50,000 bucks for it did you hear about that no a CP couple years ago uh maybe 18 months ago they were fined 50,000 bucks by the league they forced their young players to go to Florida for a set number of not days weeks to train under the pat verbi approved person in Florida then then your coach your your GM hires a coach who basically has has made it his point to berate every individual on that team I where where do you find the joy where like how where does that come from it’s it’s starting at the very top and it’s filtering its way through every facet of your operation and that’s just it once I don’t know I don’t know the GM well enough to to give an opinion but if the fund’s out of it it doesn’t matter if you’re in sunny California making millions of dollars and your coach is making life miserable at the rink you’re you’re not going to perform do I love how Trevor zis plays a game of hockey I’ve not watched him enough I like the talent but he the the rumors have always been well he’s very talented but he doesn’t play hockey to help the team win he’s he’s just but there’s a but when you tell me let me let me I’m gonna answer you I know what you’re gonna say but I’m gonna say that’s what I’m getting to in the right circumstance that creativity is is supported and encourage encouraged when and the group understands it that’s what he brings yeah that’s what he brings to the I sell it all the time David stru a good friend of mine and I hate to take a shot at him he was coaching Bard and Regina and I called him I said struy what’s this kid like like is is it worth the hype he’s like he he’s unbelievable unbelievable retro but I got to get him to play both ends of the ice like yeah but the one end he’s other world you know just is a little story but but zis to me would be the same thing it’s like you’re not putting him out there down up a goal with a minute left it’s not his spot when are we gonna harness what these guys do really well as opposed to worrying what they about what they don’t do well if they don’t do that well get someone else on your team that can do that for them yes why is like why is Matt V meof and maybe a bad example but you’re your team is in like 23rd Place in the league why is and he’s the guy that first off people are paying to see and he’s got jam and he’s super creative a really good player why is he sitting out for two games as a healthy scratch because you don’t like the way that he plays defensively at even strength what is your message to send and why can’t you send it without sitting at that guy your team’s not good enough that you can go I’m going to bring you out because we’re in here we’re winning games I’m going to send a message so you can watch how we need you to play it’s you bring it up and I’ve not spent time breaking down Anaheim but if what you’re tell saying is is right and the coach is a dick and the GM’s trying to be a hard ass too much their te their team slogan should just be we’re not happy until you’re unhappy yeah I mean that’s really the way it’s been stop when moreal andu we need Boomer is what the Yeah lunch today has been cancelled due to a lack of puzzle so and here’s the thing there’s a lot of shine coming off the Stevie y um era in Detroit his legacy is a GM you see Julian Breeze doing great work after he leaves in Tampa verbi was an understudy he he is an absolute Eiserman uh disciple like are where are we at on these two because it sounds like they’re not really interested in other people’s opinions and they’re they’re they’re they make life miserable for people underneath them you could buy into your persona too much I think and feel like where you just start believing all your own [ __ ] exactly I’m a hard ass that’s what I’m regarded as you know what again hate Daryl Suter would play up to the I’m an [ __ ] Mantra to the point of failure for you know what I mean like and it’s it you can overplay that hand guys don’t want to go to the rink and not have fun yeah it just don’t and you can’t change that look at the power of it look at so look at the power of like not not for nothing but to bring this conversation full circle does anyone think that the Flames are the in the top 16 in terms of talent and depth no not one person even like objectively their own front office would tell you the same yet when you look at the enjoyment factor that that team has and the way that they’ve bounced back you can’t tell me that doesn’t mean something and that they’re not going to out kick their coverage based on the way that they enjoy coming to the rink versus if if you actually put it on paper you could make the argument that Anaheim has more pieces and definitely more young pieces up front that are way more intriguing yeah and I wouldn’t even put those two teams in the same conversation with where they’re at right now this season you just wonder being preemptively sour and miserable for fear that the players are going to take a free ride as opposed to maybe be fair and have some good time and then if it then reel them in then give them [ __ ] if they deserve it or if they need it but keep keep the mood relatively Pleasant if possible it just doesn’t seem like it’s that crazy and that doesn’t let players off the hook for for coasting you know what I mean like you can walk and chew gum and probably and probably dribble a basketball like you could do more than one thing at a time it’s interesting though cuz hadn’t really thought about the other part of this which is so if if that is really what your game plan is is to just pump things up and make everyone feel good like where like why why aren’t other teams doing that well they kind of are like John Cooper is that guy isn’t he he’s he’s the guy you’d pick over I don’t I think it’s it’s not a pump guys up it’s a accountability I always go back to Brian scrin he was my captain in Florida did anyone work harder than Brian scrin he was the least talented player I maybe ever played with he couldn’t skate he didn’t have a shot and he was the captain of most teams he played on why because he worked his ass off but he didn’t refer to work as punishment I’m gonna work my ass off and we’re gonna enjoy it and see what happens and so it’s not I think in Ottawa they’ve given away the farm and they don’t have enough accountability in in in Anaheim they’re too hard on these guys and they don’t enjoy playing for going to the rink they find the balance have a little honesty have a little effort have a little Integrity do what you’re supposed to do demand the effort and hold you know as a coach and GM you hold them accountable you don’t just it’s not a it’s not a handout I don’t think anyone looks at Ryan huskin and says oh there you go there’s a soft coach just lets everyone get away with everything this is how we do things if you’re not going to do it well then you don’t play Zary sad to uh the guys have been benched right like manov like times but but the next day you don’t come in and parate them in front of the group you didn’t play good yesterday you sat today’s a new day let’s go let go to work come on yeah and there’s probably been some some coaches who were very fair and try and promote a you know friendly environment who just don’t have good hockey teams and or or bad goal tending and then get let go because I I’m thinking about you know prior to Daryl you needed to make a coaching change oh because he was too nice or whatever I wasn’t hard enough in the player you need to go you need a a red ass you need a guy that’s hard in the players or they just needed better goal tending needed to play better weren’t good enough I don’t know there’s and and there’s accountability to the player too if and I’ll just use zis because we’ve talked about if he’s a putts and a bad teammate that changes things too right like like if he’s a bad teammate there there’s teams that have I don’t know that lindol and zadorov and all the guys that were wanted out of Calgary were bad teammates but like we just said if you have guys that don’t want to be there or they are a bad teammate it’s a cancer in the room you got to get rid of it but that’s and going back to the flame that’s why I thought it was so critically important that as soon as that crappy leaked zadorov trade request came out when they were in Toronto last year the Frac Craig Conroy acted quickly and was like yeah you’re out of here they probably got more but it wasn’t worth the room right it wasn’t worth to to make that third round or two years sooner wasn’t worth letting that poison stay in the well for another two months perfect yeah and I don’t know that he gets enough credit for that because guess what he was getting hammered in your market for a while saying look at look at these individual trade returns not great I don’t know I look at the totality and I stressed it then I look at the totality of it I go looks pretty good to me how’s uh saquan Barkley working out for the birds oh boy pretty pretty pretty pretty good if you like MVPs if that if that’s an award you can buy into how about the Giants though what do you think they feel like smug Frank someone said last night as he ran for that final 70 yard touchdown that put him over 250 yards on the game I’d love to be a fly on the wall in the Giants management office tomorrow yeah 112 million doll guaranteed to Daniel Jones who has a tearful press conference and then walks in the next morning and says you know what I’d like to be released yeah we’re g to play oh sure hey we’ll make that happen for you no problem like what we just gave you $92 million just this past summer shut up and sit down like I mean they didn’t want him around either no they’re playing him on Scout team safety they weren’t playing him at quarterback he was going to rot and be embarrassed the rest of way that doesn’t do any good for anyone out of spite you keep them around Frank come on I don’t know it’s okay just look like the most soft organization ever yeah we’ll just hand you a pile of money and you oh you said you wanted to release that no problem good I know that sounds totally counterintuitive based on the conversation we just had that’s right yeah yeah but I’m sorry like you can’t be making decisions like that and then not have consequences as a front office particularly in letting saquon Barkley go but how did these things hen I still laugh NFL stuff is funny to me because it’s such a cash cow and the biggest thing in the world well at least North America as far as Sports concern and they just [ __ ] the bed over and over make stupid stupid and it’s like how are how are you fooling people with yeah how is your key fob still letting you in the building you know what’s amazing about the NFL though is just how quickly you can turn it around yeah you can quite literally go from God awful team to knocking on the door of the playoffs in one offseason new coaches new draft picks but isn’t that because that sorry I was talking about a guy this you probably got to go now we’re talking about fun stuff it has to be part of it because you’re drafting guys that are stepping in next year right like the the fact that the na L draft is a you can make some good picks but it is a coin flip if you put that draft two years later right do you do you Rett so let me ask you this as an NHL draft pick what percentage of NHL draft picks actually end up playing one game in the NHL overall 5% it’s it’s higher than that 19 81% of guys that drafted never play a game jez and I wonder if you take the first round out yeah take the well and if you get drafted they’re trying to give you a game right they oh 100% they’re doing everything they can to get you a game so let’s let’s spin this a different way of the top like let’s call them the core players on each team so top six forwards top four defenseman and starting goalie what percentage of those guys do you think are drafted by the team their own team that that has their rights yeah 30 12 oh my God no 12% just that’s why rebuilds take eight years so what you’re saying is bosski Reinhardt Bennett those guy for they kachuck they they were all drafted elsewhere and yet we’re gonna turn around to the point we just had about Buffalo Ottawa Detroit Anaheim all these teams that drafted their guys and are like oh my God we’re going to keep them forever maybe you shouldn’t have a great week Frank appreciate you as always Paul by bye Frank see you guys there you go Frank selli joining us on The Insider hotline of presentation of Crystal Waters Plumbing and heating hey guys thanks for watching be sure to check out more of our content right here on the Flames Nation YouTube page we had a bunch of great long form interviews you can check out some videos we’ve done as well outside of the studio and of course if you want more writing or merchandise stuff flamesnation doca or Nation gear.com

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