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The latest toronto blue jays news is starting to get wild folks! Multiple MLB Insiders now confirm the Blue Jays have made an massive offer to Juan Soto, and are about to do something “big and stupid”. Could Juan Soto actually be coming to the toronto blue jays? In other news, a former Toronto Blue Jay has now left the board, and what other players could the Blue Jays be looking to add? Let’s talk about it all right here on Blue Jays Today!
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[Music] hello everybody and welcome in to Blue Jays today folks where the plane is officially in the air my gosh have we seen a lot of plain jokes recently but you know what I get it everybody it’s effectively plain watching season in the next 48 hours Juan SoDo will have made his decision he is going to be signing a contract and we are going to know where he’s going to be playing baseball for potentially the rest of his career and good news for us ronal Blue Jays fans is that we are absolutely one of those top finalists one of those top suitors so we got some big time updates about wota we were actually live earlier today like 12 hours ago less than 12 hours ago and there’s been so much stuff between then and now that has come out about this situation that we’re going to talk about also some news surroundings some former Toronto Blue Jays happy and also kind of sad which we’re going to break into and of course we’re going to be taking your questions as they come we’ll be also answering some stuff from the mailbag should be a very good Friday night to kick off what I’m going to be Loosely referring to as the Juan SoDo weekend it’s SoDo weekend guys absolutely happy SoDo weekend everybody and as you can see we got our Juan SoDo bottle over here and our Corbin Burns bottle over there you know just some of the biggest free agents that the Blue Jays have been rumored in and if they do sign then we’re going to pop them right here on the live stream and there’s going to be multiple live streams we’re going to be going live Saturday maybe Sunday depending on how everything goes down and then of course like all throughout the next week and all the winter meetings so I’m very excited so thank You’ all for tuning in tonight on this lovely evening 186 of you right here in the beginning and also when Nick’s talking about that mailbag take a moment right now guys if you have a burning question go in that description down below click that link it takes to a Google form fill it out just ask your question there we’ll get it and I can put it up here on the screen so if you have a burning question yeah go ask it away yeah yeah absolutely we got people in here saying skywalking I feel like he might sign tonight it’s not Unthinkable everybody like it’s really not impossible we are in the end game now before we hit up some of the recent updates if you haven’t already done so please hit that like button and subscribe to Blue Jays today we’re like 20 subscribers away from getting the 27,000 which would be really cool if we could in fact hit that tonight so if you haven’t already done so and you’ve been watching this content regularly or just found us hit that button it would help out the boys a lot yeah like we’ve been chasing at 27k man it would be super super dope you guys know if you guys are OG’s here 30k has always been the like the ultimate goal since day one like literally when we first hit 1K subscribers 30 was like that icon like we just got to do it 30 more times yeah 30 more times let’s go guys so guys hit that subscribe but bit longer than expected but uh but we’re slowly getting there grind is real everybody so let let’s get into it yeah let’s flash over to to the biggest update of the day everybody John Haymon he was on I think it was MLB Network and he was talking about just everything SoDo everything free agency and he dropped what I would refer to as being a pretty big Hyman bomb here he was saying that every team that is in the mix right now other than the LA Dodgers so that’s the Mets that’s the Blue Jays that’s the New York Yankees and that is the Red Sox sh didn’t think you the person that just subscribed every one of those teams right now has an offer on the table for $700 million or more yeah know I mean it’s fair to to chuckle at that because it is actually [ __ ] insane when you think about you know woto being one guy on the field of you know in a lineup of nine guys and then you know you also got your pitchers and your Bullpen and everything $700 million or potentially more than that committed to one one player and there are four teams that are willing to do that right now that is just ludicrous guys like when we were talking about the $700 million mark it was just more of like a oh that will be the number that kind of puts him over the edge but there’s been reports out there I think it was Jeff passen talking about with Buster only they were discussing well we could easily see this number get up to 750 and literally I made a skit joking about that 750 Mark and I was like nah like I’m put it in here just cuz of how ridiculous it is n like if the BL like for Blue Jays for example if they want to win the sweep Stakes it has to be 750 now it feels like and I don’t even know if that’s enough at this point well right because you know you’re getting to that point of ridiculousness where you know before if you had maybe only one other team that was like in the mix here at at 700 or more million dollars then maybe 750 would be okay maybe maybe you could do that but with four other suitors are you telling me that one of those guys isn’t going to be willing to come and match you you know like maybe maybe you cut out like the Red Sox maybe you cut out the Yankees but you know Steve Cohen like he sees the Finish Line just as much as we see the finish line here we’re 48 hours away from this guy deciding where he’s going to want to go you know are is he going to let 20 more million dollar stop him from getting a generational Hall of Fame player like it feels like because we’re in the end game because you know there is all four squads right now like no one’s going to want to bow out yeah I was hoping at this point for the Blue Jay’s sake my little hope that I do have I was hoping that it be like one other team I hope it be it would be us in the Mets over 700 okay we might actually be able to winance here the Yankees are still in the Red Sox are still in it and they have uh you know I’ve heard some like a couple tweets here and there coming from MLB insiders just saying like those guys the Red Sox in the in the and the Yankees feel like they’re lesser of a likely odds that they’re going to sign but they are still they’re kind of in their like final offer stages right right well actually we have a tweet I thought or not a tweet trade I want to get to that in a second but before we do that like I hear what they’re saying you know and I get it but that whole conversation of oh well the Yankees like you know they’re scared of spending money and getting over that $300 million luxury tax and all that [ __ ] I mean that’s bull right because they’re already here at $700 million like they’re they’re in that conversation so I think anybody saying it’s like yeah like they’re they’re not really in the race they just went to a World Series with this guy and they’re offering him $700 million so like I’m not I’m not discounting the Yankees or even the Red Sox for that matter at this point no not at all right and again like kind of circling back um you know Red Sox are hoping for an additional meeting with SoDo this came out uh yesterday the last night that it came it kind of got swept under the rug because there was so much other stuff and we have a couple other kind of news later on in this podcast other than woto guys that we’re going to bring up about the Toronto Blue Jays because it all is getting swept into the rug right now it’s just stto everywhere but this one got swept under the rug and it’s interesting because they basically to sum it up here they told wot to look whatever offer you get that’s big and you think you want to take it come to us one more time and let us know your price tag and we will and we’ll see if we can match it so it feels like it’s at that point right now like teams like the Red Sox and even the Yankees were hurt as well that they’re having one last kind of final offer now I think that Yankee one was actually discredited I think someone actually came out whether it be John hymon and said that never happened but either way it does feel like that’s we’re at that point right now where a couple teams are going to have one last fin final chance to offer to try and beat and if they can’t then they’re out well and I listen I get it right like this is a you know I do this [ __ ] all the time and when we’re playing fantasy fantasy sports you know like I I’ll tell like guy if I’m ever interested in trading for a player I’m like come to me last you know like or like come to me and I’ll match it I’ll match that offer I’ll I’ll do whatever right and obviously you get a big Advantage if you’re the last person to talk to set individual because you know well the number is you know 730 million and if I bump it up to 50 then he’ll sign right here and right now and of course if that’s on the table I’m going to do that right so of course the Red Sox are going to ask for that I would anticipate that a lot of teams are asking woto for that final meeting because you do get a competitive Advantage knowing where all the other squads are at however they were also discussing in that article that from a Scott Boris and a Wan stto standpoint it might be more beneficial to them to keep some of these teams in the dark and to keep them to keep them anxious a little bit you know like playing on their emotions right now but you know you have the timer ticking down to to Sunday night they know when the deadline is and they’re all obviously hearing all these rumors and they’re probably even more connected than than what we are connected right now they’re hearing like even you know more about what other teams were offering I’m sure the anxiety in those buildings right now like it is very high yeah I heard on MLB Network the the theory or not the theory but like the speculation right now is that Juan soda when he does make a decision like he’s not going to like like we’ve been coming to assume that he’s going to like knock off a team and say like you’re now gone and now it’s you guys cuz he still wants to keep the bidding war yeah exactly cuz that doesn’t like from his standpoint that actually doesn’t make any sense right like why would you why would you ever knock out another Squad even if they were offering let’s say the Yankees were offering $500 million right and they’re they’re not really competitively in the race at all well Boston doesn’t need to know that you know so like Boston Boston doesn’t need to know that their offer is you know $200 million less than what they are they just need to you know be thinking in their brain well maybe H Stein Brer is going to beat us out again and I don’t want to have that happen well even think right now like that report that just came out I’ll flashback it for those who are coming in and just missed it the big news like this report right here of being like there’re a lot more teams than just me offering $700 milon like [ __ ] am I going to have to go even higher like that’s the you know okay so that actually begs the question then do you think that this is accurate um or do you think that this is Scott Boris and Juan soda maybe exaggerating just actually now I’m think it’s got to be accurate because well because if you’re the Boston Red Sox or if you’re like you know the tronto bleach or something and you you know you’re off for $650 million you’re like wait a second it’s [ __ ] it’s all [ __ ] so it actually it needs to be accurate because then you know if you’re a team that hasn’t done that then you’re going to be like what the hell are you talking about we we haven’t done that at all you know so yeah actually I do think that this is accurate and all four teams are that’s crazy man this is insane this is a wild time that we live in I know it is man man to think that last year when we heard that $700 million or that dollar amount go to sh Otani we were both Blown Away by absolutely that number cuz we were thinking 600 maybe 650 700 was crazy we’re at 700 and he’s like 48 hours or if not more away from signing that number literally could be 800 we weren’t thinking 700 it could be 800 no I know man and when this offseason first start even when the first conversations of stto hitting free agency started the word on the street like at that time it was like oh maybe he could get 450 or maybe he could even push 500 oh man and like so I mean [ __ ] on Scott Boris all you want and I get it like the GU you know he’s kind of slimy you know kind of kind of a bit of a snake and don’t love him either but his method works because you know a year ago no one would have even like if if he would have come to the table and said we want $750 million they would have laughed him out the room and now that feels like the going rate maybe even bare minimum yeah no it’s insane it’s insane so we got to we got to Hope man that uh now transition to the Blue Jays we had a hope that uh they they they still stay in it they still stay competitive but man like if we’re waiting and waiting waiting like I feel like we got to be starting to get on some other guys right now we haven’t heard any updates about like other kind of like bigger guys that the Blue Jays have been in on like Corbin burn since yesterday we got to hope that the Blue Jays are still sticking with it cuz I don’t want to get super distracted right now but I do appreciate that he is signing before the winter meeting so that we can actually get some other moves kind of done no I think yeah exactly like I like what’s happening here and it it is is funny that um Monday is December 9th that is when we did the you know the whole sh Otani debacle came about in regards to the um the plane track and everything like that so it really is like a full circle moment where you know it all the stars are aligning however the the benefit this time is that we are going to be entering into the winter meetings hopefully before he signs and I believe last year that was not the case it was like a few days after yes yeah exactly so like you’ll still have time to Pivot and they are looking at a lot of pivot options we brought up Corbin Burns earlier but I mean you know a couple weeks back like we’ve forgotten about all of the other guys that were being talked about here like they’re still in on Max freed um you know we we heard that they were looking at santon dere and that they were they badly covet santon dere that’s something that you know we haven’t talked about in a really long time I mean tar Hernandez other than the LA Dodgers you know the spot that everyone talks about is the Toronto Blue Jays right so they are going to get somebody big we keep saying that and I know some people want to bury their heads in the sand and you know don’t want to get hurt again and whatever but they are going to get somebody big even if it’s not stto however that being said I still like I think our chances for Wan sto are the best that best that they’ve been yet oh yeah so let’s revisit that actually I wanted to bring this up cuz on our Tuesday stream we had a couple of you guys actually three of you guys ask what is our percentage for juano I think I said 5% I you said 10 I was um you 10% I think I was at no I think I went to 20 you went to 20% okay no you said 10% I said 10% and we met in the middle at 15 okay okay so where are you at right now also while you’re thinking about that quick shout out to Scott bar with the 9.99 Super Chat donation saying okay Adam and Nick I followed you through 162 last year thank you through glizzies and beers through clown noses you have to be able to see the same patterns happening again I know Ross siiz CH listen listen Scott and thank you for being a Advent follower man you’re absolutely awesome but we know I mean like I I’m not going to sit here and pretend like oh like yeah we’re going to get them like let’s go you know like we’re going to do it we’re going to do it like no like I’m fully aware I mean that’s why we’re we’re putting out our percentages right now I’m fully aware he’s going to probably be in New York Met more times than not right so I totally get it but I’m I’m trying to distance my emotions to it so I don’t get hurt you know what I mean like I’m watching it I’m observing it we got we got to talk about it if we didn’t talk about Wan SoDo and all these stuff going on with the Jays I think we’d be like the worst Blue Jays podcast out there like how could you not talk about what could be the biggest thing in our history of course right I mean like they’re seriously in the mix actually speaking of I saw somebody in the chat talking about how Shai deidi came out earlier today with a report on this uh and I did read this article he’s you know referring to it again just everything like we’re still in the mix saying that yeah the murky line between legit Contender and useful stalker horse has provided ample reason for for skepticism around the Toronto Blue Jays however all that being said they remain on the short list of teams buying for the franchise altering Slugger Services according to an Industry Source so we are right there and Shai deidi he has been notably not pushing back against this but very skeptical that the Toronto Blue Jays are going to be in on this like he’s always been saying it’s a long shot so when you have you know that guy coming out and Reporting like no they’re still very much in this thing on the short list like this is a real possibility don’t buy the jersey yet or anything like that you know like don’t track the plan you’ll be setting yourself up for failure if you do that however don’t be shocked either if Juan stto does you know end up being a Toronto Blue Jay in 48 hours from now to answer your question about the percentages um I think I broke it down last time saying it’s like oh New York Mets were at like what 40% said 40 yeah um you know which I think is still accurate I’ll still say that they’re at 40% maybe right now I have the ton blue J’s at like 25 I don’t know if we’re that close to the Mets though I I think I think we’re still at 20% I think one in five times he’s going to be it’s Ronald bluej I would say I would creep it up a little bit cuz I said 10 right hey shout out to Dave popes eight Monon member let’s go we’ll read your comment just one second my man um I think I’d throw us up to 15 you know I think I’m kind of getting closer to you because I still the end of the day really think it’s like sh thing Mets all day every day I get it I do get it yeah like they are ultimately they’re the favorite for the reason yeah like I I see us it kind of very actually so I’ll do 16. 66667 because I literally said it’s like it’s like rolling a die and hitting six you know that that’s what I think the odds are only a die hitting a six sure right so you’re at one and six I’m at one and five like it it kind of feels like that’s where they’re at right now and that’s enough of a shot right like there’s five teams left one in five six I think that makes sense we got a fair chance we right there in the mix I do think you know you can kind of rule the LA Dodgers out at this point like they haven’t officially been taken out and maybe La fans won’t won’t like it that I’m saying that but you know if there’s four teams that are offing $700 million and you are not one of those teams um it feels like you’re not in the race right now unless of course they’re offering him like a threeyear $300 million deal and they’re just like let’s go win three back to back to back world serieses together and then you can get paid again that’d be actually it’s like okay well maybe he’ll go there all deferred money you know although I I did hear that like he doesn’t want to defer his contract like he wants he wants to get all paid no right I mean like it is actually it’s just beneficial to get the money now like it’s worth less and 10 years or 20 years or whatever sh is a great guy oh yeah for sure also Dave popes uh going back to that thank you for being a member for eight months guys if you want to be a member go check it out I think it’s in like the Super Chat area we appreciate all of our YouTube members on this channel uh Dave saying I’m looking forward to this being over so we can pivot quickly bro I feel that man I get it dude I do get it it’s like it it’s now getting to that that point of of SoDo fatigue I saw some people talk about this where they are now getting exhausted about talking about W sto and I understand like we as well are at that place what’s keeping me in it right now is is the hope it’s the excitement it’s the it’s the numbers that we’re seeing and it’s like also there’s another tweet I want to bring up in a little bit but it’s like the the the stupidity going on with the J’s and what did we say right when we when this first when the off seon first came about and when we were talking about what it’s going to take for them to get woto yeah there was a couple different terms that we were using one of them was we got to give them [ __ ] it money right now it’s it’s looking like that is is happening it’s happened we were also saying that in general the Toronto Blue Jays need to come out and just say [ __ ] it and go balls to the wall here if you’re going to outbid Steve Cohen if you’re going to outbid Hal Stein BR if you’re going to deal with all that stuff and bring one of the best generational players to Toronto you got to get a little stupid and that’s what’s happening right now according to Robert Murray very reputable individual he was saying that one of his sources had them saying they’re poised to do something big and stupid you know what’s funny I brought this up to Nick R before this podcast if it was let’s say the Dodgers or the Yankees and they were and the word on the street was they’re about to go and add a lot of people like hell Steve Cohen a few years ago when he was adding a lot of people did anyone refer to him as doing something big and stupid or did they call it wow this is like the best time in Mets history like this is exciting this is like really great for baseball bring it back to New York Mets no it’s probably more that but because it’s the Blue Jays and we’re a 74- win team it’s like no it’s something stupid why are you spending money cuz I’m trying to win games I you know what I hear you and I do certainly think that there’s a lot of anti-canadian bias out there among these MLB insiders and reporters and all that [ __ ] um that being said though I tend to look at this this stupid as a good thing I we’re doing something big and stupid if being stupid is throwing out $800 million greatest players that we’ve seen the last two decades I’m an idiot you know big big idiot literally man you know like I am ready to get dumb with so dumb you maybe that’s our thing okay Fantasy Land here everybody Fantasy Land we go we get soda $800 million everyone all the reports are like why would the Blue Jays do this they don’t have a bullpen they don’t have this they don’t have that you know what our new slogan is big and stupid big and stupid stupid all over the was hash Next Level a couple years ago then you had hashtag to the core now it’s hashtag big and stupid [ __ ] like last year we had a hashtag bad for baseball which actually turned into its own baseball Channel now our hashtag will be big and stupid big and stupid the uh spin-off spin-off channel of of blue jays today you know listen if that is the mentality right if that’s actually the mentality in the room with Edward Rogers and with Ross Atkins and Mar chyro then I think we have a chance seriously because that is what it’s going to take I do believe that Steve Cohen is willing to get big and stupid it’s sounding like the Red Soxs their ownership group they’re ready to get big and stupid yeah I don’t know if the Yankees are ready to get you know totally big and totally stupid but they’re getting pretty dumb you know so we we got to at least level or match that level of stupidity among these other owners thank you shout out to Jose for joining the community W’s in the chat for Jose everybody welcome our new Community member but yeah guys if you haven’t already done so please hit that subscribe button just like Jose we’re actually like we said very close to 27,000 subscribers we would love it if we could hit that milstone this evening it’s been a work in progress and if we can get this thing up to 100 likes massive shout out to whoever number 100 is everybody let’s pivot and talk a little bit about something else before we continue these wo we’re goinging and I imagine while we are live tonight which probably be for you know maybe 2 hours we don’t know all depends on you know the the stove and everything I wouldn’t be surprised if if something else breaks while we are here so kick your feet up get yourself a bigin and stay tuned let’s discuss Danny Jansen a little bit former Toronto Blue Jay there was some hope and optimism after trading him away at the deadline to the Boston Red Sox that well he’s on the last year of his deal Toronto Blue Jays yes they have Alejandra Kirk but you know we still do need a catcher and everybody in that building loves Danny Janson I still remember this very vividly one of the first times meeting uh blue jay’s Insider Keegan mat he went on a long tangent just talking about how when he’s at spring training when he’s in the building no one’s putting in more work nobody’s doing more for the Toronto Blue Jays not even just on the field but off the field as well than Danny Jansen and he was just talking about how valuable he is so there was a lot of Hope among Blue Jay’s fans that well this off season you’re going to bring him back that didn’t happen yeah you’d think that that value he brought was worth at least $8.5 million and look like I think last offseason we started talking about it a lot where we were like well you know there’s simple extensions you got to do as an organization and I we truly thought here that extending Danny Jansen was one of those and it never happened right like we all know he got traded away and then he goes on a one-year deal to the ray that’s per Mark findet it’s been confirmed and Danny Janson will be wearing Tampa Bay Ray colors this season and and I mean excuse me I started to accept it like he wasn’t going to come back once I started to realize like when they were asking Ross Atkins and Mark power not like we can really hold their wordss to any weight like they don’t really have any weight to it but still when they were talking about how they don’t really see a problem with the catching is when I started to actually realize okay you know what maybe they move on from it you still got kirku who played a little bit better at the end of last year and maybe this is one of those things where we just don’t have that Elite catching Duo like we had in the past and it was time to move on that is going to be the case right like a couple years back when you had Moreno and you had Kirk that was coming off of his All-Star season and you had Danny Janson who you know could very rarely stay on the field but when he was on the field you know the slugging was up there with trout and Harper all these like you know it looked like holy [ __ ] like we are stacked at the catching position now after you trade away Moreno which I know we could go on a tangent about that again but after you do that and then Danny Jansen you know he leaves and now Kirk falls off like it is in my opinion an area of need I yes there are other areas that the Toronto Blue Jays need to address first like the bullpen and hopefully getting SoDo and you know everything else but I mean are you comfortable walking into the season with Alejandro Kirk being like the number one like no real backup behind him type of Catcher is is that what we’re doing like I mean if you if you’re thinking about our catchers in the past you’d be like uh yeah not uncomfortable with that but when I look around the league I mean most teams only at one catcher you know one true guy that’s been with the organization for a while Kirk’s been with this team will now be what is fifth or six Fifth Season he’ll be with the team six season in 2020 got called up yeah so he’ll be a six season so it’s like I mean he’s been here for a long long time and defensively speaking he performed a lot better and I don’t need a lot of offense coming out of my I just need enough offense I’m hoping Kirk has a little bit of a bounceback I think he played a little bit better at the end of the year last year look we got to go get the offense elsewhere right I mean whether it be through an outfielder Corner outfielder like a s De Hernandez whether it be like a third baseman or glabar Tores second baseman or h on Kim we got to find that production elsewhere right now and then maybe somewhere down the line we can readdress that issue somewhere right I’m I’m not thrilled about it but I’m not like this is a serious problem because at least we have a guy who’s familiar with the pitching staff and can as we know scen carry the team a little bit yeah you know yeah no I I do agree with you again like it’d be something that I’d love us to address but just a luxury that I guess at this point we don’t have there’s too many other things that need to happen right like if there was uh this year’s version of you know woto but in Catching form on the free agency market I’m sure we’d be in on him absolutely sadly that’s not the case everybody so we’re we’re just going to need to supplement that offense I think elsewhere right Kirk is going to be that defensive first catcher I’m fine with that if he’s and you know I’m I’m a Kirk lover right I love I think you know he he does have potential to get better with the bat but if not then you know I want him batting eighth and I want it not to matter because we’re going to have other guys that are scoring runs remember when Alejandra Kirk was batting like fourth for us that’s what I mean right like that’s just not that’s we can’t be doing that and maybe that’s why I’m thinking it’s like okay well [ __ ] like this is a problem because ultimately yeah you cannot have Alejandro KK batting in the middle of your order if he’s going to performing like he was like if he performs how we did in 2022 okay you know what put him in the middle of the lineup I’m totally happy with that but you know a 677 Ops is not good as your cleanup hitter no no I I don’t know what really happened it it’s funny too guys like Kirk is 26 like he’ll be 26 next year oh he is 26 right now 30 days into his age 20 six year happy bladed there Alejandro but yeah he’s still a young guy like when he had that All-Star season he was 23 years old like we all kind of forget how young this guy is so there’s still hope and optimism that maybe one year he bounces back to that vintage alah HRA Kirk where he works a lot of walks makes a lot of great contact strikes out not a lot and that’ll be good enough for me and the other question is and this might be or maybe even a bigger concern is can you survive a full 162 being the 1A that is that is literally another thing as well it’s just like I don’t I don’t know if he’s got the endurance for that um obviously we could we could spend a long time talking about his conditioning and it does need work like no I’m not I’m not going to sit here and defend him like that’s something that needs to get better right you got to you got to be able to perform at a very high caliber for 162 days and or a game excuse me and especially as a catcher that is extremely taxing and now you don’t have Danny Janson to fall back on yeah obviously we need a we do need a second like but like it’s going to have to be I mean someone was saying in the chat like swerving sucks I’m like it’s going to be a swerving a minor leag pick up doing hman again it’s going to be like a Hinman type we seem to love that guy throwing money over there like just a purely defensive I catch one every five games type of guy and that’s unfortunately what’s got to be but that eventually will catch up to you if Kirk’s catching five days a week right let’s say six games a week he’s catching five of them like that’s going to really start to catch up and those knees aren’t going to last that long you know let’s uh let’s move on and talk a little bit about this thing called Holly Market everybody I wanted to bring this up because this is something that’s going around right now on Twitter earlier we were talking about our percentages and by the way if you guys haven’t put in your percentages as to where you think Wan sto is going to sign let us know in the chat right now everybody I’d love to read some off and just see where you guys are at but polym Market I was just looking it up while we were talking about that it’s this prediction Market site yeah um and it I guess reads off is saying it’s allowing you to stay or allowing you to stay informed and profit from your knowledge by betting on future events across you know everything so it’s it’s effectively just like a a magic eightball you know but they’re marketing it like it’s math and it knows [ __ ] so look it people are looking at Poly market right now and of course because it does a bunch of stuff it’s got the woto stuff and everything like that and right now it has the New York Mets at a 78% chance to sign him and the Toronto Blue Jays are down at like it’s like less than 1% 1% um now it got the presidential election right however there was a lot of people that got the presidential elction flip a coin you know you actually could have flipped a coin and you know there was again like a lot of people thinking that the was going to be the outcome I don’t know if it got all the states right or maybe maybe it got all the swing States right then you can give it something um apparently according to poly Market New York Mets are heavily favored to take this with a grain of salt guys yeah like I I really don’t know who decides these percentages like who decides algorithm of some then then what does the algorithm have what does it include like how does it like it’s I feel like there’s got to be some sort of human element to it right like some something like that some sort of lines I don’t really know if someone else knows this better than us let us know but yeah listen and like the algorithm yeah I’m looking at it right now it’s a wild wild sight the algorithm for politics has got to be different than the algorithm for sports right it’s got and the and the algorithm for sports has got to be different than the algorithm for pop culture right the hell this is an insane sight dude like listen I I this this feels like something of the future but I I just don’t trust it dude what is this thing about you can put money down on this I don’t know man I don’t is but that like picked up steam and like everyone’s been like guys poly Market says Jay’s only have 1% so that they’re not going to sign it’s like what I I don’t know I’m just I’m just going based on what I’m hearing right here does paully Market have a a Bluetooth microphone in Juan sto’s like like office where he’s taking all these meetings like that’s the only way theyd probably know that in in that case then all right you can you can tell us what’s what exactly but I got a feeling that that is not the case everybody 444 people in here guys if you haven’t already done so please hit that like button and subscribe to Blue Jays today if you do subscribe your name will pop up right here and we’ll give you a huge shout out like we said we are on the road to 27,000 subscribers we got to be getting very very close we also did get to 100 likes so thank you very much to everybody that’s liked the stream can we get to 169 massive shout out here to last gaming with the $20 Dono saying hi guys I just want to say happy Friday and go Jays go hoping for a big off season please Ross Atkins sign good players I don’t care if the bluejs don’t get Soo sign better players than last off seon and ultimately that is what we are hoping for too yeah like guys don’t don’t get confused here like I just want a I just want a good team at the end of the day I just want to have a good team I don’t care if it’s with SoDo I don’t care if it’s with Burns I don’t care if it’s with a collection of a bunch of guys that all make up 90 wins I don’t care just give me a good team next year and be stupid so thank you thank you lasto gaming thank you ABBA Edgar for the $20 dollar Dono also speaking of woto I wanted to bring this up cuz I thought it was kind of funny that uh you know the big the big argument against the Blue Jays not getting woda was oh but their team is like their roster is not good and there’s you know not a lot of good um you know they haven’t had a lot of success in the playoffs and this blah blah blah and vlat and Bo are leaving well this came out from John Haymon on his stream talking about the Mets the favorite in this race and giving a reason why their roster Construction thank you the person that just subscribed W’s in the chat for them so Mets B flip is quoting John Heyman here was said on his live stream earlier today he had a big one today answering a bunch of questions and he was saying with the Mets the issue could be the roster around him no one to bat behind him in the lineup they need to up their offer now I don’t know if that’s just if that’s just him spitballing like well trying to think of what could the potential issue here be with a Wan stto signing in New York if that’s the case I mean well they got Francisco Lindor in the lineup they got Mark V and they got it would be wotto in the top three well if you really wanted to make him happy You’ just move woto up and put someone behind him like Mark ventos or Francisco Lindor like you just make it work yeah I I think right now if you were to to look at the New York Mets lineup you’d probably want to have you’d want to have sto batting three for them and be somebody like what nmo yeah nmo maybe Vientos behind him like okay yeah it’s not Aaron judge but no one is there is literally no one that is Aaron judge unless maybe you go in the in the middle of that Dodgers lineup right like there’s nobody that’s going to me you know be that guy for you so I do hear what they’re saying however like he still wants SoDo and like ultimately okay maybe he doesn’t score 126 runs this year but instead has 126 RBI right it’s like you’re still going to get production um I love that this is the narrative that’s happening now because if this if this is true then great you know point out the problems of those guys point out our problem exactly exactly like sure like there’s lots of stuff wrong over there that’s awesome um but I don’t think it to be as big of a roadblock as maybe they’re making it no no like they’ll make it work I mean here Patrick mahomie I love that name Momie hilarious Patrick mom with $2 Super Chat speaking of this exact topic saying Heyman also said of Soo signs Alonzo is back there you go I mean if that if they do do that I mean that that would be wild from Steve that be insane lineup that’s yeah exactly that was again like we we watched the Mets do this a couple years ago but if they do bring Alonzo back and they do bring in Juan sto I don’t know how you don’t look at that team as a as a top five maybe top three World Series Contender yeah no I agree I agree also I just I saw someone in the chat here is just saying those Champagnes are never going to be open believe that Hey listen listen if if it’s not W soda or cor Birds I’m just going to replace the labels that’s the thing look we’re very we’re very flexible we were talking about this earlier on our previous live stream maybe that bottle shifts to the glabar Torres bottle maybe it becomes the Tyler O’Neal bottle and and we’ll drink it a lot differently like I’m picturing drinking this bottle right here like popping it [ __ ] up oh yeah no like we we got to we might need to put [ __ ] on the set because like it’s going to get bad like I I might not actually have any of it cuz I’m just going to be spraying [ __ ] place whereas if it was the glar Torres bottle I’m just going to pour it into a glass and and sip it sadly basic maybe I step it straight from the bottle just like okay well what’s our lineup look like now yeah pretty much so that’s where we’re at right there everybody uh one thing I wanted to bring up um to was was talking a little bit about Roki Sasaki before we get to the the Tre conversations we got some trade updates as well to talk Blue Jays but a couple days back um it was reported that the Toronto Blue Jays are very serious about Roki Sasaki and we didn’t really get an opportunity to discuss this because of all the wota sweep stakes and everything like that where are you at right now with Roki Sasaki and is there a legitimate chance or are we just fodder for the LA Dodgers here well I mean the whole conversation around Roki Sasaki is that we apparently have established a really great relationship with him like very ear like I’m talking four or five years ago before this guy became the Roki sasak that we all we were predators yeah we were we were like you 18-year-old kid like you you’re gonna be elite you know blue J you’re going to be a blue jay in five years bu you better believe it right so anyway so I with that being said like maybe and again like playing in Canada is a bit of an attraction to uh you know a lot of foreign players but so is the idea of playing with one of the greatest Japanese players of all time sh Otani so I mean I wouldn’t hold my breath if it happened like super cool awesome like again that’s one of those things where like everyone’s going to be like who what the hell he went to the Blue Jays changes the game really for us yeah cuz everybody else is thinking LA Dodgers so if he went to the JS it’d be like very shocking so where I’m kind of at I’m honly kind of at at the same where I’m at woto a little bit where I’m just like he’s probably going to go there but there’s hope I so honestly like I love to hear that I’m looking at the tweets right now about him but I love to hear that the Toronto Blue Jays are are serious about this and and genuinely like going after him um because he is such a special talent and to have him on a rookie deal and to have him on you know potentially controllable for 6 years like oh that would be it’s legitimately insane if he becomes even half of what people think he’s going to become holy [ __ ] like wow it just be a crazy steal so that’d be amazing literally franchise altering however all that being said I just don’t know how you don’t go to the Dodgers if you’re RI sasuki the greatest team maybe assembled since I’ve started watching baseball you know in like maybe the greatest team that been assembled in the last like 20 years or something like that that is coming off of a World Series win that has two of you know the best players to come from Japan in again like maybe ever like you know like last decade for certain they want you and they’re going to give you every possible reason to come there they’re going to market the [ __ ] out of you and they’re probably going to win one or multiple World serieses while you are round so I mean listen if you if you can cook Ross Atkins and find a way to convince him that we are better than that M be my guest yeah please make it happen also big shout out to ABS Dan for being a member of this YouTube channel for 4 months saying if even if we miss on stto there are a lot of pivot options it just depends on Ross Atkins will make the deals for those players I want this to end and and hopefully soon guys if if it ends tomorrow you know Sunday Monday whatever the whole w sweep Stakes I think right after you’re going to see pretty quickly some following moves right like we’ve already been in discussions with guys like Corbin Burns and Max freed and other players like santon Deere I think once stto Falls all those players are going to get all the offers from like us the Yankees Mets all the all the big teams Red Sox and it’s going to be it’s hopefully going to be a lot quicker if you had to put money on it right now um who like who is the most likely player you think that the T BL Jays are going to get I was think that a little bit um I honestly dude I feel like we’re going to get a starting pitchure I think that is increasingly likely I get it I mean like the the reports have been extensive talking about freed talking about I haven’t seen us link to flarity yet but I always thought that he would make sense for us like CU he wouldn’t totally break the bag but he would be like a nice kind of refresh to to the rotation yeah you know what it it is really tough I mean all these odds are [ __ ] 10% 15% like it’s because it’s tough it’s tough to imagine seeing the Blue Jays like signing a bunch of guys there’s a lot of teams out there that are gonna they L Max freed that are going to want Corbin Burns yeah I honestly think maybe this is crazy to say but I actually think maybe it’s Corbin Burns because if we don’t spend it on soda we go kind of ballistic and just give burns the B if we go insane mode like if we’re actually going to do something big and stupid then maybe it is really big and stupid to give you know an aging pitcher like $45 million like you imagine if we just go like actually insane mode and just like offer the most ridiculous contract no I I think so right like I mean it could happen right look those of the big guys I’m talking freed I’m talking Burns I’m talking probably the the floor would be like a t Ganda sere terms of like money amount where are you kind of add him in those range of players okay well if in those range of players like the really the really big addition right there I do think that there’s a great chance for the starting pitchers I don’t know if I’m going to go so far to say Corbin Burns um CU I just I feel like I don’t know I feel like he’s going to want to play on a really competitive ball Club maybe we go boss the wall and and do something crazy but I I just think that there’s going to be a lot of competitive teams out there vying for his attention um I don’t know I’ve always thought that sand Deere makes sense and I think that you know again like we’ve heard that they badly covet Anthony sond there uh I think that is going to be a Dodger and going to remain an LA Dodger I think that the Tonto Blue Jays will love the opportunity to steal somebody away from the Baltimore Orioles and especially somebody that has 44 home run type of power so I would say of those big guys it’s going to be sandir I do think though and I saw the name come up in the chat several times that honestly if I had to bet my life on anyone that we’re going to get Tyler O’Neal was like a really good one you know yeah outside the big guys you know outside of the big names like we’re talking somebody who’s going to provide really good value when he’s in the lineup you’re probably going to get at a bit of a discounted rate because he was injured last year um but the ceiling of what he could provide I think is worth the dart throw and correct me if I’m wrong like Canadian boy he’s Canadian exactly there’s just so much stuff that that’s going you know kind of checking all the boxes there so you know everyone’s always like a nobody wants to come to Canada well if you [ __ ] grew up here then maybe you do right yeah no I actually think if we miss out on like a sonon like I would lock in Tyler when he look signing to the Blue Jays I would lock that you still need to do something else like you still need to get another person um but I’m I’m certainly not going to be upset about that signing right like if they went out and they got if they got a big time pitcher let’s say they get Max freed and then you also go get uh you know an O’Neal and maybe you get somebody like a glabar Torres like okay now we’re talking yeah you know I I still think we’re you know I don’t know if we’re World Series caliber or anything like that but like we’re better roll the dice again you could roll the dice for sure I think we got a Super Chat Dono right here my chat kind of like froze Bill bomb coming in the $5 donut saying can you imagine signing Burns trading for aado helsley then lucking out on sasuki dude I mean it’s funny how all of us like to go into the fantasy land you know like I was I was having this thought the other day man like yes I can imagine it do I think it would happen no but uh that would be incredible if you got all those things but Phil I was having this uh Fantasy Land day whereas like they somehow lock in to getting Roki sasuki and then you also end up getting the first overall draft pick which is going to be happening on Tuesday they’re going to do that draft lottery then it’s like you know obviously you’re going to pick the the biggest time hitter right there either laved or or Ethan holiday so it’s effectively you have the number one overall ranked pitching Prospect in baseball being Roki sasuki and then you’ll immediately get the number one ranked offensive you know player you know uh so it’s effective our farm system is like oh amazing and one can pitch right now you know play for us right now it would actually like the rebuild would be like boom we’re back I I love it you know a little different little outlook on the season also this just reminded me right here King Zimmer saying King Zimmer I don’t know if that’s Bradley Zimmer reference but it’s got if it is hell yeah saying we need Romano back and that’s something that we actually didn’t well like I I saw it for a moment but there was so much going on with wotto I was like I I don’t I don’t have time for this right now like there’s so many crazy things going on but the Blue Jays actually came out and talked about being interest Blue Jays mean Ross Atkins came out and talked about them actually being interested in reigning a Jordan Romano now if you guys remember they declined his uh arbitration they non-tendered him for it was 7.5 million 7.75 million he was going to roughly get an arbitration but they said no no no we’re just going to avoid that non arbu you’re going to be a free agent now they’re thinking about me well maybe we bring him back I mean hell he’s already living here in Toronto like he’s from the Toronto region what if you bring him back on a cheaper prove it deal would you would you be interested in that and would Rano be interested in that um I’ve I’ve always thought that that makes a lot of sense you know just again like we need Bullpen arms we know that Romano um at the very least likes it here um I don’t know if he can is still or still going to be capable of pitching at the same level that he did and yes he’s had his issues and yes some of the numbers have been on the decline all of that I recognize but getting him from a lower price sure why not I mean I do think though that there’s probably going to be a little bit of animosity from him I’ve done so much for you I have the third most saves in Blue Jays franchise history and the second that I get hurt you just toss me you toss me away like I’m nothing so honestly like I wouldn’t I I don’t feel any way about him being upset about at the Toronto Blue Jays cuz I get it you know like yeah I would I did so much for you and7 A5 millionar are you serious guys however if he is willing to come back for four or five yes of course like I I think that the ceiling for Romano is still a very high quality Bullpen arm yeah like I I could see it just like I could see Bo bashet he you know both of those players just bouncing back to what their career averages are like they’re back to Career forms no problem cuz they were both hurt last year and they and when they were hurt they played like ass and when they were on the field so yeah I mean let’s go roll the dice why not if it’s four five million why not we literally need uh we need guys in the pen like who’s in our pen right now Chad green like notable guys Chad green Brandon little that’s all I can name you is there anybody else no Chad green Brandon little yeah that’s it I think that’s all Eric Swanson that’s it that’s all I can name you guys that’s all I can name you right uh we need Anthony ghost is he still playing I don’t even know if he’s still playing I know he transitioned to a bullpen guy also we got just a random question in here from Super danab I did see this today that reminded me of your question saying do you think the Jays are done with Alec Manoa Alec Manoa is throwing on grass now everybody’s outside throwing the baseball around yeah actually I’m going to pull it up right now he posted it on his Instagram he was throwing the baseball remember we had a little update where he was throwing it in the facility but now here we go look at this y’all Alec monoa out there on the diamond hell yeah hell yeah man there it is we’re moving we’re we’re moving uh we’re going in the right direction we’re going in the right direction we’re we’re progressing well hopefully Ian he’s not thrown off a mound yet but he’s just getting that arm strength back so are we done with Alo no cuz he’s going to cost you like $2 million for what could potentially the ceiling is S Young we all seen that before but at the worst it’s or worst we all seen that too but at the hopeful average this guy can pitch a you know 30 games in MLB season and uh or maybe I’ll even lower it 20 games and be okay for you at the average so $2 million for that thank you I’ll take that yeah 100% man I was just looking on Twitter and um did you see that clip about uh Ken Rosenthal talking about uh Soo and and how it pertains to vlat and everything like that uh kind of he was on foul territory and let me be very clear guys we were talking about this earlier today but Ken Rosenthal [ __ ] hates the Toronto he hates us man like it’s I don’t know what we did what T like you know did was it that you fell in love with a Canadian girl years ago and she broke your heart Ken is that what it is like seriously tell me the origin story because like this villain Arc from you hating Canada like it’s not cool dude it’s insane however that being said I do think he’s on to something here when he was talking about SoDo and he was saying if you wanted SoDo this was on the foul territory podcast if you wanted SoDo you should have locked up Vlad Jr by now bro we hear you bro we’ve talked a lot about that on this channel a bit but do do you think now that we’re down to the wire here that that’s going to be the difference um I think it definitely plays a factor I still am a firm believer that the money is going to always talk like if we offer an 800 million and then the Mets or the Dodgers or the Red Sox excuse me offer 750 like we’re going to get them that’s just what it’s going to come down too but I agree I mean I do agree with Ken Rosa we were screaming on top of our Longs like first of all you got to sign sign Vlad anyways not just for the reasons of ju SoDo but this is another big reason cuz what what’s he going to do come over here and then play one year with Vlad without any guarantee that he’s going to be back with the Jays like I thought if you really want to convince SoDo you bring Vladimir gr Jr in the room with you and you have him talk to them like you you first of all you need to be on the same page of vlat before you do this being like hey Vlad like let’s like we got that’s thing it’s it’s a it’s a messed up mess where like you actually need to be in almost an agreement with latty and then bring that in the room like hey Soo if you sign your deal we’re on this agreement with latty where if we get this done you’ll both sign at the same time you know or some [ __ ] like that and it’s like amazing like it needs to be that level that’s what they needed to do and they it’s a lot to ask for but it’s going to take a little bit of a hit but that’s why it’s going to cost like an extra like 10 20 million more dollars it’s going to be a lot of money right but you’re I do agree with you too it’s like Money Talks money’s going to talk talk at the end of the day um and I’m sure like from s’s perspective he’ll make it work massive shout out here to Chris for that $1999 Dono and also to the 415 legends that are still watching in the chat everybody don’t go anywhere we’re going to be answering your questions very shortly and covering everything else that hopefully breaks this evening also we’re going to be live again tomorrow and then potentially if this thing’s coming down to the wire it might need to be a uh might need to be a big live stream on Sunday we don’t really want to do that cuz Adam’s got a big time football game however I’ll put it on the side I’m putting it on if one SoDo is you know between the Blue Jays and the Mets do what we got I’m going to do it yeah no don’t and during that stream I’m going to be like oh my God something’s going on here something going I want be like so frantic guys but it’s going to be a good one everybody so stay tuned we got a lot of content on the way so that is why you got to hit that subscribe buttton Chris right here though saying fingers crossed for a top two draft pick on Tuesday big laviolet fan Jay’s need a left-handed power bat in the worst way and there is nothing in the miners at any level couldn’t agree more on all of that dude again that first overall draft piig man really could be a franchise changer we’ve been talking about the farm system for a while just saying that it’s not good enough ever since the Guerrero and the bashet and the Cav bigio came up there hasn’t been that many guys coming from the prospect system that has made a massive impact whereas you see around the league you know how do these teams continue to be good mhm they get rookies who’s L heel Rookie of the Year came up for the Yankees help them make it to the World Series we need guys like that getting the number one overall draft pick would help you well they also need to draft well but they need to develop well too that’s a huge problem in our system like we it’s not like we haven’t drafted talented guys in the past like we’ve done it but we can’t develop anybody and we keep trading them away too and granted like I understand why we traded CU we were going all in but like like we have such crap development and we’ve just started making firings in our system now like I me there’s teams out there like the Astros like they never had the top pick ever in well early on they did cuz they were tanking so much but then to continue their success they never had like a top pick but they kept Drafting and developing well and that’s why they’re so successful so yeah we we got to be better in all all assets of the game I completely agree man another Dono right here you guys have been amazing thank you so much everybody who has donated and liked and subscribed this stream we so appreciate the support very close to 169 likes by the way guys massive shout out to whoever gets that 169 right there Michael Borland saying can used to come on with sports Dan all the time Sports started going with passing and morosi instead since then K has been a hater also that’s the origin story of the of the Canadian uh hate bias right there K man I just I just don’t get it man like again I brought this up on our Blue Jays Today’s Show earlier today I’m like I I I liked Ken I Ken too fun colorful guy you know with the bow ties and then he just started being a hater remember um in the playoffs this year too he was like hating on the padr as well and they were literally like well get the hell out of our Dugout bro like we’re not literally he was calling them like clowns and peacocks and like punks and [ __ ] and and then yeah they were like yeah sorry dude you’re actually not going to report on us anymore which is totally fair like why like yeah dude like okay we get it but you know you don’t need to go that far it’s just it’s too much it’s too much take a chill pill dude it’s all going to be okay let’s talk a little bit now about some Tonto Blue Jay’s trade rumors folks obviously free agency going off the hook but there are more than one way to add to this team and to make it better and that is through the trade market which the Toronto Blue Jays have been reportedly very interested in we’ve heard from Keegan we’ve heard from other guys around the Toronto Blue Jays that this is going to be this is going to be part of the strategy for this winter especially trading away some of those guys in that middle INF field I’m talking about barer talking about Leo Jimenez I’m talking about maybe Horwitz maybe Clement there’s there’s so many different guys that hold some value and just simply are not going to be getting enough at bats on the Toronto Blue Jays and trading them away especially for a bullpen guy could be the move yeah like we don’t have enough money to just fix our entire Bullpen for this off season like you you have to spend like a billion dollars yeah you got to spend a lot spend wanto money to fix that like no seriously you got to spend like 50 $60 million a year like for aing value to fix his Bullpen and that that’s just not going to happen so you got to get a little bit more creative use the assets that you got maybe trade cuz here’s the thing all the guys out there on Fry right now are older veteran guys maybe you got to get a little more creative and trade away some of your younger guys in the middle infield for some younger guys in that in the bullpen and one of those guys and shout out to Thomas Hall right here who has it in here saying yeah little uh pre-winter meetings nugget Blue Jays have had trade discussions with several teams involving uh relief pictures excuse me multiple sources said they also remain active in the free agent Market 2 okay that’s great he brought up Ryan Hesley and Devin Williams are two arms that they’ve expressed interest in now we all know how great those guys are on the Brewers and on the Cardinals however he also says he believes that Camilo Deval is another right-handed or I keep saying right-handed pitcher relief pitcher on Toronto’s radar lots of logs on the fire it appears so they’re looking for someone to go grab now Camila Deval if you’re not familiar he was like coveted as like one of the younger kind of breakout arms in the league and he’s still 27 years old now had a bad year last year with the Giants he had a 488 ER with a whip of 1.5 the apparently the big problem here is the Walks Like The walks were just out of control I think he’s in the first percentile in terms of walks but everything else like the stuff is still there I mean expected bounding average expected ra fast ball velocity is still very good the strike out the Whi it’s all there just walking a bit too much so maybe this could be a nice by low candidate with lots of control that might look good on the blue no I think it’s great dude and the guys in the middle of his career are G to be age 27 starting next year so age not a factor at all and you got to even imagine that some of his best years are ahead of him right we were just talking about the money how it’s going to fix the bullpen I was curious i’ never thought about this before how much money are they actually investing in the bullpen right now um not a lot yeah is that what you’re looking at right there I hold up the contracts right now the payroll for next year there is two guys under an actual contract not an arbitration contract being Chad green and Eric Swanson Chad green gets paid $105 million a year Eric Swanson gets paid $3 million a year that is arbitration three by the way so he’s not even like on a on a contract or anything like that that’s arbitration three then you have one guy in arbitration one who’s Zack pop and then everyone else is in pre-arb that’s nothing everyone else is in Pre what is this dud you could triple your bullpen budget and actually have a decent this goes to show that we are not investing enough in listen I I’m all for value and for getting you know cheap guys doing good stuff uh but we have like 10 guys on pre-arb here no I mean and like the one good value there is Brandon little he’s kind of decent last year for 800,000 that’s great but like we got Tommy Nance down here e Lucas Michael Peterson this is not it no this isn’t it no no no but yeah but look we do need to invest more and maybe it’s via trade and obviously free agencies we should hopefully see a few I’m hoping for at least one or two of those kind of signings before Christmas that would be very nice also quick shout out to Ann beacock with the first Super Chat on a live stream in general not just this one but everywhere so shout out to an beacock for their first ever Super Chat appreciate you guys much appreciated guys we got 400 people still watching right now like we said if you haven’t already done so hit that like smash that subscribe button let’s take a couple of your questions guys we asked and you guys asked and now we’re going to answer in the mailbag we got a great question in here uh coming from I got to pull it up it’s SL it’s computer’s a little slow gets a little slow after some time when uh when we’re streaming and whatnot but uh oh yeah I got to I got to do real fix this here one second give me a give me a couple moments here guys well we got a bunch of different questions from you guys if you haven’t already done so then go submit it the link is in the description to the mailbag folks also two more likes away from 169 there’s 400 people in here I know that we can do that so if you haven’t already done so please hit that like button massive shout out to whoever number 169 is let us know in the chat and you can claim it this question comes in from Fernando thank you very much for submitting it to the mailbag dude he’s saying name the Blue Jays that would fit into each of these School categories I love this question we got a lot more like just generalized like contract talk and baseball question we will but this was a ni and F change of pace that we wanted to throw in here and you guys please play along too and let us know asking who on the Toronto Blue Jays would you fit into these School categories the Class Clown the drama King the best friend the most athletic and the most likely to succeed well I’ll tell you right now and this should be unanimous the most athletic is Addison barer h i mean he’s definitely the most jacked that’s for sure that’s for sure um he definitely has a lot of torque on his body I’m trying I’m going around I’m giving everyone their due diligence you know I would say bo bashet b bash’s very athletic and is I actually I would push back and I would say Bo bashet because he plays tennis he plays that sport as well you know not just baseball whereas bar I don’t know if he plays another sport but he plays tennis and he plays it very well correct he does um I would still stick with barer though I’ve seen that guy run the bases I’ve seen that guy over there at third throwing the body down I know that bed is certainly athletic in his own right but I’m I’m going on the bar train I also think that an argument could be made for Dalton bar what he does out there in the very true actually incredible athleticism that he does very regularly yeah I might go D VAR show now I think I might go because he’s again he’s still got a good build too but like damn like the the quickness of him is just I could respect that argument too I think there’s a couple good ones personally though I would say bar bar looks like an NFL player but Bo is naturally very athletic yeah that’s the thing like listen there’s definitely some athletic we know who isn’t the most ath we don’t need to name names right now I think we all got a couple guys uh but there’s certainly a couple athletic used to play college football I could believe it I could believe it I could believe I could see him out there Corner position or maybe wide maybe not wide receiver actually but maybe a you know actually he’s he’s white so he can’t play Corner no not anymore there’s that one guy yeah can do it so I’ll see that right there most likely to succeed that’s a good one um who the hell is most likely to succeed yeah want almost look at I want to pull up the Blue Jays roster I need to see their faces again uh Class Clown vlat done either either him or it’s it would be uh George but I’m going to go I’m going to go vlat no I think that’s fair yeah Vladimir gr JR could definitely be the class Clan I agree with that uh the drama King uh who on the team is like extremely dramatic all the time you know I don’t like it’s got to be somebody on the bump right is somebody on the bump like I know that Kevin Gosman or not Kevin Gosman but Chris Basset can get real heated sometimes yeah it’s not like really dramtic no he’s not really dramatic like he’s more just like an angry guy I feel like he yeah he’s just upset a lot frustrated like I would say maybe the drama King I feel like Ernie keeps coming up to me right now Ernie’s a bit of a character Bo is like the least monoa but like are we counting him yeah you can count that’s fair I mean Manoa maybe Manoa he’s pretty dramatic say Manoa all right yeah Guero Class Clown monoa drama King uh the most athletic we’re all kind of split there most likely to succeed did we get anyone for that yet most likely to succeed who got any does anyone have any outside Ventures here like who who’s who’s the entrepreneurs there’s got to be some entrepreneurs here most likely to succeed like who’s like really maybe Basset you know he’s got he’s pretty smart he’s got his own like hunting thing Farm thing motivated guy motivated for sure maybe Chris Basset I would say I mean cuz again he’s not like the most talented guy but he got here cuz he’s very smart I’ll go Chris Basset right Chris Basset and then what’s the last one here you got got the best friend and FOC is saying that the bestie is Springer I can see that Springer that’s the one I’m he he could be everyone’s friend I could see that I could definitely see that all right great question in there from Fernando thanks you again man like we love to talk just like you know generalized trades and you know contracts and and all that stuff uh but it is fun to get a change of pace occasionally so thank you very much Fernando also I did think I see somebody say that we got to 27,000 subscribers so if we did shout out and thank you to everybody that has subscribed to the channel guys you guys are awesome the goal is obviously 30 I don’t think we’re going to get there tonight uh but stay tuned it’s going to be one hell of a weekend for Blue Jays today I imagine yes it will be guys we got another question here from Cass this is another kind of fun interesting one to kind of think outside the box say Toronto was not allowed to have a team anymore What place would be best for the Blue Jays has to be a city that the that has never had a team so people would go Montreal that’s where my brain went immediately but a a a city that’s never had a team what about Vancouver well Vancouver would be yeah Vancouver would definitely be a good one you get some good battles between them and the Seattle Mar that would be like quite the Rivalry right there uh I mean there’s also like you know Ottawa that’s the capital of Canada definitely it’s smaller than but like I mean still could you get 50,000 people in that every game that’s the thing like you you need to have like a population that get 50,000 or try to get 50,000 people you you know yes and no though I mean think about some of the American cities out there that like oto’s got a bigger population than you know a lot like Colorado and like you got a bigger population than a lot of those places so I mean honestly there’s a lot of cities in Canada that would work Buffalo put one in Buffalo moving to Buffalo that’s true yeah it would be Canadian anymore but you know we we kind of make it our own Cal Edmonton that’s true as well I think that Ottawa has a bigger population than Buffalo yeah pretty sure yeah would need to fact check me on that one but you know it’s American though you know Americans are weird and Wild stream says what a stupid question well hopefully we’re not going to be losing our team anytime soon a fun question hopefully we don’t lose our team I don’t think the tle Blue Jays are going anywhere um can you imagine if if there was reports that came out that ‘re you know they’re moving us some sh I think I’m we’re obviously change career path you know yeah like like I’m I’m done I’m ending it right now you know that’ll be it I’m going to take a moment like kind of look through these questions to your guys you guys have a lot of good ones right now yeah of course you know uh yeah a lot of different people in here saying Calgary would be a good one Calgary could make a lot of sense for sure folks um yeah I mean Calgary definitely and like some of the other big ones over there too like Edmonton uh could make could make sense for sure also uh outside of the Toronto Blue Jays I’m not sure if you guys noticed but uh Shane Bieber decided to to sign with the Cleveland Guardians so that was a little bit of news that went today uh good to see um you know him getting a second shot like he was so good for so long and then just kind of fell off the table a little bit and had had a bit of injuries B of rough performances uh see if the bounce back is in order for him yeah yeah absolutely I’m going to I’m just going to grab one here kind of you know everyone’s kind of on the same like wavelength right now of like SoDo so why don’t we why don’t we bring it back a little bit right now and this actually was brought up this was having a little bit of controversy online about well if the Blue Jays get stto is that like that means it’s over immediately for vlady and Bo bashet and this question is coming from Luke asking that exact question if the J sign stto what do you think is going to happen to bashet and Vladimir Guerrero Jr what do you think is going to happen to Vlad and Bo if they do sign S I think that B’s gone for sure B’s cooked like I just well actually I wonder if Bose got a better shot then of sticking around CU he’d be a lot cheaper um I don’t know I I I just think that b is is gone regardless of anything that happens actually like I just again we got to see what happens this coming year and all that stuff but I don’t buy any of the media talk about like their relationship being good and stuff I I genuinely don’t think that that they’re cool I think that him and the management are like on different pages and they can probably work it out enough to you know have him play baseball for a year but I don’t see him signing a long-term deal with the Toronto Blue Jays regardless of SoDo or Guerrero or anything really where would you put even his value at right now let I have no idea let’s say let’s say he was a free agent this year like don’t know I think I think he’d have to sign like a one year Pro know 15 million 20 20 maybe I don’t know maybe it’s t granz kind of deal it’s like one year 22 mil prove it I I don’t even know if he gets 22 million man like again that was a terrible year last year I think that it would be a one year for sure it’s one know what the value I think someone will give him 22 cuz it’s like he could lead the league of Nets he’s one of those guys he could do that but you know you think about somebody like Cody Bellinger like he’d been coming off of a better year than that I think and he got 27 and a half no yeah he got 27 and a half no less than that I’m talking about when he initially signed with the Chicago Cubs not the contract he’s on now but before that um what was that 20 million or something like that I think it was uh I thought it was a lot more and I think that’s why or maybe it was the first year but a second year right now he 27 and half but he signed another contract with them he did like one year and then he did uh like I think he signed what it was it like three years or something like that oh yeah one year 17.5 wow yeah that’s like not a lot at all thing he didn’t get PA that much he was coming off I think a crappy crappy year was it really I thought he was like okay but not great let’s see he was doing oh yeah he’s kind of around bow but actually he was healthy right he actually a little bit better than Bo but he was healthy so that’s what he did that year and he got paid one one mil one year 17 and a half I could see something like that happen one one year 18 for B bashet yeah I could so that honestly that’s his value um and I’m sure he wouldn’t want to hear that because he’s going to want to have a a long-term deal for sure so it really does boil down to what what he does this season with the Toronto Blue Jays like is this is this a bounceback year for Bo bashet where you know gets right um but regardless Soo or not I don’t see him coming back now Guerrero on the other hand you got a better chance with vlat but the money is just going to be a shitload especially after signing ju SoDo too because he’s going to literally use your own teammate as leverage for him yeah SoDo got 750 I just put up a 950 Ops batting behind him uh and you know hit 35 home runs and did all that stuff well now I need 500 right that’s like if you want to have this pairing I’m going to be 500 he’s going to be 750 and that’s going to be that and I just don’t think that that’s a sustainable strategy for any baseball team really because you know what happens the one year where one of them gets hurt or [ __ ] both of them gets hurt you know like I just don’t see the Toronto Blue Jays ever doing that yeah like you’d have to really reconstruct that that whole roster and I I’ve been coming around to the terms of like okay well for the next two years if you do go over the luxury tax like that will pen Iz you for those two years but then all the contracts leave the books you’re going to have to like find a way to get underneath it again if you had a two monster contracts which is going to take a lot of creativity let’s be honest it’s going to be very tough uh this one comes in from David this actually a fun I like this one can you please like share and sub to Blue Jays today I’ve been a fan for a while and recommend you all to the follow uh to follow these guys best Blue Jays podcast and thank you there from David everybody uh yeah hit those subscribe button sh us on Twitter guys we do appreciate it like we said we are going to be uh be live for pretty much this entire weekend uh we didn’t talked about maybe we’ll have a podcast coming out tomorrow if anything breaks in the morning but certainly in the afternoon uh to evening period we’re going to be live and following along with what we assume to be kind of the final hours of the woto sweep stakes and potentially the beginnings of some other guys sweep Stakes as well like a Corbin burns like a t Oscar Hernandez and and many others so stay stay uh tuned look like some breaking news actually just happened right here outside of the Toronto Blue CHS but still pertinent and important number less New York Mets staying active let me double check right here and make sure that this is in fact the case everybody clay homes going to the New York Mets and they were looking at him to be a starter too oh they were yeah I think that’s right okay well this is from Joel Sherman reliable Guy saying the Mets are in agreement with Clay Holmes pending off IAL okay wow see all these other teams are going out and getting like these outside dudes where are the Jays doing this where are the Jay’s doing this that’s the thing you know like I want us to to get a move on uh you know you don’t need to you don’t need to sacrifice The woto Sweep Stakes to go and get a Kay Holmes now clay Holmes there’s a Klay Holmes is such a weird player man can you pull up his numbers actually there’s I saw a tweet today uh by somebody being like there’s a ridiculous amount of people that think that clay Holmes is just a bad pitcher it’s mostly Yankee fans and there is a ridiculous amount of people that think that I don’t know why anyone thinks that the whip is kind of high for a reliever though 1.3 the Raa is great for I mean not great but good the last year the year before or career is 371 so he must had like yeah he had a good stretch there of 2022 2023 whip was really low then it got kind of shot back up I mean he’s not a horrible one at all like he’s definitely good like I mean like again like if we sign this guy like this guy’s closing games for us yeah you know which is still kind of sad like he got a 0.7 War last year yeah he’s not like terrible he’s not terrible but yeah I he racked up 30 saves last year but I could see how people would be kind of afraid of a 1.3 weip get get a lot of scary ninth Innings I I would assume I get it yeah I mean like the guy definitely does blow the occasional save but at the end of the day a 3.14 erra and 30 saves like can’t complain with that too too much yeah like whereas you look at Romano too like again the whip is a little bit Higher One 1.2 he had the year before I mean obviously last year you can just write that off that was a crappy year because he was injured but like he’s a little bit scarier in terms of the whip of RA Holmes and a Romano so I could see how that would get some hearts beating you know for sure I get it yeah well either way he is now going to the New York Mets is there any update on the contract or what that like just is in in agreement with them that’s all all I saw was the Joel Sherman thing we me keep an eye out here and see if there’s anything else but okay Mets staying active um oh here we go uh this one is coming out from Joel Sherman came out MLB trade deadline news is also quot tweeting this or like taking the information 3 years $38 million contract so n a bit more no how much money is that that’s 10 uh 12 math math 12 12. 6666 something like that yeah okay so about about almost 13 mil a year okay that’s uh damn okay if that’s the going rate for yeah a guy with a career 37 one ER with a whip of 1.3 oh my gosh that could be really dangerous that could be a lot of money for a lot of other guys yeah no I mean I I get it though like you’re talking about somebody that in the in the last three years too uh you know like the Innings pitch he was at like 60 60 plus Innings every single season so he’s been fully fully healthy as the bullpen arm and especially if you’re the New York Mets like planning to maybe transition him to a starter uh you know in the two seasons prior to last year two good I guess if you’re paying him to a starter then it’s kind of a steal again depend dep um but yeah I mean I like it like again the last three years of clay Holmes have been very good been an All-Star twice over 60 Innings 63 Innings literally every single time so I get it I I do think that uh that that that is a solid signing for the New York Mets and they need more starters you got montz you got you’re just getting all the Yankees montz you got Kay Holmes yeah okay I mean they’re starting to build a rotation I guess they’re trying to start to build an argument for Soto to go and sign with them I wonder like I do wonder if if any of this [ __ ] cuz we always speculate on that but like is there anything to that like is it is there literally anything to that I think it’s like a like a okay I guess you know the swing now is 1 million less dollar who really knows I mean I mean if you got to think about from what swan so’s perspective again what’s the most important thing to me money think about you Nick like if you’re if you were woto what is the most thing what’s what’s more important to you right now like oh the fact that they this guy as a starting picture is going to convince me now to come play for you or is it going to be the money that you give me the end of day show to thank you the person that just subscribed to the channel everybody W’s in the chat for for Jericho 941 thank you so much for subscribing and joining the community like you said your name will pop up right here if you hit that subscribe button uh yeah it’s the money yeah it’s the money like obiously if competitiveness is important for me but it’s the money and especially if I’m a guy like wotto who knows that pretty much I go I’m it’s going to be competitive because that’s just you know like that’s the history right ever since he got to the league pretty much every team that he has been on has been a good team been to the World Series twice won at once the guy’s really good so yeah it does boil down to the money largely then then comes the other things yeah they still got a lot more to do man like right now their rotation is Kenta mayada Montas and Kay Holmes that’s uh it’s not instilling me with a lot of confidence Jer saying hey thanks for the welcome guyscome yeah welcome Jero thank you very much for joining the community man we appreciate it uh yeah so Jeff passon did just uh I guess confirm that and saying that yeah they do plan to turn him from a relief pitcher into a starter and this is what I want all of us to start doing from now on whenever anything gets broken or anything like that you look at this guy cuz he is yeah he is the one that is going to confirm or deny any of this [ __ ] also shout out to our buddy Wy NM right there who was already on it he must have had the thumbnail already buil out knowing that it was going to happen yeah cuz I saw something earlier where in Mets land they’re like watch out for Klay Holmes today watch out for Klay Holmes you know also sh thank you the person that just subscribed again and Danielle C for5 Don right there saying uh actually it was Abby who subscribed so thank you very much for joining Nick and Adam are you ready for the soo plane watch stream actually we’re very ready because Adam has a thumbnail all built out bro actually yeah you guys want to see this I will yeah yeah yeah it’s a joke it’s a joke exactly we got to play into the meme here everybody but if there actually is a moment also shout out to D Lin 5150 for subscribing welcome in everybody to the community W’s in the chat for these Legends if there is actually a plane watching stream we are going to be steering into the curve do you know how many times people have commented on our goddamn video saying like oh like the plane is leaving the airport plane is landing well [ __ ] if it’s if it’s leaving then we’re going to track it yeah yeah yeah ad actually already made up a thumbnail it’s just for fun you know what maybe we’ll use it dude if if it like well obviously we I need to see your rep be like soda’s on his way to Toronto or something like that then then I’m doing it for the memes you like we’re tossing it on there man and uh it’s just like it’s too funny to not do it dude like this this is a joke that might live on in you know baseball land for decades it feels like yeah exactly I I was saying to Nick we’re going to lunch this morning um I was saying to Nick I’m like if we sign sto like actually the plane jokes die you can’t make a plane joke anymore has to you know like it has to but if we can you imag if we do it again like if we do it again where it’s like oh like this guy is is coming to Toronto and then we we get this the stream up and all that [ __ ] it might never and he doesn’t come here it might never die oh it will never die right uh also I did see someone say something about oh yeah what would the stream be like if if stto signs is asking bradden bro um I’ve thought about that probably at least 50 plus times since the beginning of this free agency and it involves this bottle [ __ ] it even that bottle right there we might just need to rip it off and you know we’re both drinking it we’re both drinking it’s going to be champagne I’m going to be guzzling it I’m going to be playing music I’m going to be like it’s going to be a dance it’s going to be a party we just got to screw the copyright at that point and like we’re just going to have we’re going to be watching woto highlights I want to watch the at bat again like in that you know where he where he it was that who Cleland Cleveland postseason yeah exactly I just want woto highlights on repeat I want Dominican music in the background like it’s going to be a [ __ ] it’s going to be a movie it’s going to be insane and like you know I’m hoping that we’ll have like thousands of you guys like concurrently in here we’re all just part ing like it’s that’s it it’ll be a big party all night we’re going to get hammered it could be like imagine it’s like a 5 six hour stream just party going to be keep the camera going you know we we head out to the Toronto clubs we’re just still we’re still live dude we could like we could collab cam our phones and we’re just like yo that’d be so funny guys might have to do it guys listen if that’s what the people want that’s what the people are going to get everybody this this is the content that you are going to receive here at Blue Jays today yeah uh what else we got you got want to do a couple more questions let take a couple more questions let’s see look around the rumor mail and see if there’s anything new regarding Juan SoDo or anything anything regarding anybody obviously you got that clay Holmes signing I would love to see somebody like that for the Toronto Blue Jays let me just point out um like again the New York Mets yes they’re in on the woto but they know that they need to go out and they need to get starting pitching so what are they doing they’re making it happen slowly but surely so they don’t get caught flat footed yeah I agree Ross I agree Ross do something big and stupid right also I did see Danielle asked like a very similar question to the B and vady ex want to give Daniela a shout out cu I’m was trying to get her question up here but I missed that sorry Daniela uh but this one comes in from Connor speaking of big and stupid uh Connor is asking I think we have to do something quote big and stupid to get soda to sign here I agree because I really don’t see him signing without someone else by his side or V not really a question but just more of like a a thought you know I don’t really see him signing without someone else by a side or V extension I mean that’s a thing and that is one of the kiles heals that we’ve been talking about is like that’s why you need to spend $50 more million that’s the big and stupid part like you have to go and pay him $800 million to get him here in the first place if you guys if you guys missed it we brought that up earlier apparently an agent according to Robert Murray came out and said yeah the blue JS are going to do something big and stupid whether it be Soto or overpaying for burns I don’t care just give me one of those guys give and like we keep saying too right it’s got to it’s got to be ethet money like it’s got to be F money and I would argue that they are like to the Toronto Blue Jay’s credit I don’t think that anybody can say that they’re not trying if the reports are accurate that they are at $700 million like did did you ever think that they’d be at 700 for Soto I thought that was the ceiling I thought that was going to be the ceiling cuz we had the maybe maybe they could get there but honestly the fact that they are like again hopefully this is true but fully legit you know ready to put pen to paper and give up $700 million which is over $1 billion Canadian like let’s not forget this is $700 million us that’s more than a billion dollar Canadian they’re willing to put pend to paper to do that credit where credit is due right seriously credit where credit is due Edward Rogers like you got to the finish line but we do appreciate the effort nonetheless yeah absolutely this this is a nice question here I I actually really like this one this was kind of reflective this one’s coming in from Mugsy just asking what’s your favorite blue J memory yeah now obviously I think without a doubt my favorite blue jay memory is the the Jose bautist the seventh inning of you know the ALDS but that’s an obvious one I think you could ask most blue jay fans like that’s probably going to be their favorite memory if I really had to go back into the tank and think about my favorite memory actually Vladimir gr Jr’s debut his debut I watched that game in the Bad season of 2019 and I remember thinking for the first time in years we have hope again we have hope again and that for me had to be up there now I know there’s a lot of moments along the way like you know going to the playoffs again playing in those games blah blah blah blah blah I really do think my favorite memory other than other than the uh the bat flip game other than the Edwin walk-off and the wild card is vlat Debut cuz that gave me hope it gave me hope I uh no and and that’s that’s super fair man I mean I got a couple good ones but honestly I would it’s it’s wild to say um but it’s it’s my favorite and also one of my least favorite is the sh Otani watch along stream like seriously right that was that was a massive moment of the high of highs and then the lowest of lows and uh you know I I don’t I that’s one of those ones where I don’t know if I’m ever going to forget that no like ever I don’t know if I’m ever going to forget that time in my life you know I’ll tell I’ll probably if you know if I ever have a kid I’ll tell my kid that you know that guy he was this close to comeing to on when we were right there for you show them the stream actually I I we always get comments nowadays people coming back to that stream being like I always watch this if I want a good laugh and bl totally fair that’s why we make the content if you for moments like that but uh you know I’m going to be looking back at that video years from now that’s the thing man like I was literally out here like you know you know effectively ripping a beer bong on stream scaming that Juan sto or that chotani is a Toronto Blue Jay you just can’t make it was Cinema it was Cinema it it was a movie man and and like also shout out to the nation Network like they that’s the network we’re affiliated with guys they were like they had the our stream just in the in their like office playing the entire day as people even outside of just the baseball world were feeling it polar catch actually that one came to my mind jumping the wall wearing the 42 on Jackie Robinson Day in left field that’s when he like became someone and I was like who is this man and why is he just like the best you know Defender I’ve ever seen in my entire life also uh little bit of an update here not not a major one but Dan Bartles on Twitter uh johnon yeah Dan Bartles on Twitter was just saying that peton so who is somebody that I’m very interested in for the Toronto Blue Jays everybody this is somebody that if you miss out on wotto I want them to go out and get Dan Bartles right there um Pete Alonzo is going to be giving the New York Mets effectively what we were talking about as that final offer opportunity the one that the Boston Red Sox want to have with Juan stto um I can’t find it for whatever reason Dan Bartles yeah for whatever reason that won’t come up for me Dan B oh there now it came up now it came up weird uh okay so who is this guy sorry what was he saying apparently John Haymon was saying that Pete Alonzo will give the Mets the final ability to match offers which isn’t great from a Toronto Blue Jay standpoint um I guess you have to hope though I it’s one of those things right if you lose out on Wan sto then you’re probably losing out to the New York Mets and then they’re again I know that people were talking about how they might go and get ponzo 2 I don’t know if that’s accurate or not um you got to think that you know it’d be difficult for them to match your offer of pet Lonzo if they also got chy or woto yeah I guess it all depends on how crazy uh and doing something big and stupid uh Steve Cohen is going to do correct you know cuz uh that would be a nasty lineup like you are losing pet Alon but you’re gaining a one sto like obviously it’s a plus but your lineup would just be so much better and it would help convince stto a little bit more like hey like you come we’re going to we’re going to get back our guy pet Alonzo to hit right behind you and bat you in and whatnot no like it won’t be an Aaron judge level but it be something so that’s interesting right there that’s an interesting point what else we got going on is that as of right now there’s no other major news uh other than MLB Scoops oh my God man everything we’ve said about woto and the Mets remains true as of right now we have been told that Carlos Mendoza’s son leaking the contract offer has not impacted Soto’s impending free agency decision um yeah we talked about that earlier today guys that’s ridiculous all right Carlos Mendoza is the the the Mets manager um and his son was apparent we don’t again we don’t even know if this is his son’s official Tik Tok account for all we [ __ ] know seriously this is how social media works his son was on Tik Tok watching some baseball related Tik Tok and commented on it saying that woto is going to get $15 million you know from the New York Mets for 700 right that’s what was said and everybody was freaking out because oh apparently you know like the the offer was leaked and this is going to affect stto for one we’re talking about about what’s like an 11-year-old right now literally relax guys like what you you think that the the Met’s manager told his son about this and then his son immediately took to Tik Tok and like revealed that like I don’t know it’s just like it’s so ridiculous stupid guys we can’t be listening we can’t be listening to a kid and taking that to you know dude when I was a kid I thought um you know I was going to be a movie star you know and when I was a kid I thought that Mark you know like I thought the Blue Jays were the best team in the entire world like I I just believe things that weren’t true and I I made it up my mind to make me feel good actually we got another update here Toronto Blue Jays related let’s go to Francis Romero right now on Twitter right now folks this is not something that you’re necessarily going to want to hear and might not excite a lot of people that much uh but the Toronto Blue Jays are seriously interested in yoan Monada I better not be the move look we said that you know we might downgrade the champagne bottles I don’t know if I can ever drink a yoan monato champagne B no dude this actually I was trying to think this year of like who’s the comparison of an ikf granted ikf at the time was the worst free agent I could ever imagine assigning it it been kind of good I think Yan motus this this year is like dumpster diving crap oh that’s just terrible that’s just I’m going to just R can we pull up his numbers again remind ourselves I he’s not like garbage garbage oh he had a decent year last year actually he had a decent year okay like he has a 275 batting average he only had 408 bats what am I talking about he only had 40 at bats in a full oh he’s been barely healthy too injured hasn’t performed well hasn’t been fully healthy since 2021 where he was good yeah I mean this is nothing um I just don’t get it because doesn’t he play infield middle infield as well he’s a third he’s a third baseman third base and second basem so I guess if you want to have him as your third base guy but don’t don’t don’t do this I like this offseason’s going to piss me off to no extent If all we’re hearing is like the Blue Jays are going to do something stupid if this is the if if this is what you’re talking about then yeah this is stupid this is really this really stupid not big not big small and stupid like you need to do something big and stupid this offseason that’s the whole word out there yeah well and that’s you know you look at focal play saying Ernie is better right here guys who do you prefer in the chat Ernie Clement or uh you know bringing in your Ernie I think Ernie I think like I I’ll be honest I don’t see a whole lot of difference at least Ernie played the entire season like at least he played War 3 great defense 3.4 War K hasn’t accumulated 3.4 war in the last 3 years 1.8 he hasn’t been playing he has been playing you know so I guess look if you can sign yoan Mona to like a full nothing Burger deal minor league contract yeah literally like give me like that two-way type of thing you know um like if you can do that for a couple M sure I guess right like if if it’s really nothing at all then okay but this is not somebody that we should be looking seriously interested in no no one no one’s looking at no one should be looking at yoan makot right now this this actually won’t move the needle at all for me did not at all it’s like it it maybe even moves it down a little dude like you’re I look at guys like barer better than you you know just because the prospect is there and yolan Mana he was back in the day an extremely highly touted Prospect right he was he was an extremely highly Ted Prospect I think he was actually involved in was it was it a the sale trade he was involed in a massive trade yeah because he was down Boston and he was like their big big Prospect and everyone was really excited about him and then they traded him to get Chris salea and the white sock were like oh baby and then he had a phenomenal year in 2019 and he was looking good looking like he was getting better and then just fell off the table and has been injured and has never been able to get back to that production and now he’s 29 going to be turning 30 next this is not the type ofer that is going to move the needle and win us more games yeah like this is It’s a dart throw it’s a dart throw but like look if you get a big guy like a good starting pitcher maybe a santon d and then and then you get this guy sure you know you got to have that’s the thing like you got to have the big players but you also need these like other guys complimentary pieces break out all of a sudden like if if Yan monal broke out to back to like at 800 Ops it’s like oh okay that’s something that’s going to push your team to that next level when you a few more ball games down the road but damn it just it’s just upsetting when we’re you know calling this the wano update and and we’re all watching wo heing about Yan monata do shout out to doas much appreciated dude saying monata is a disciplined hitter and has a high Sweet Spot rating other than that though his Advanced metrics are so so and I mean like does make sense you know like you’re not going to when you have numbers like he does the number or the advanced metrics are not going to support something great regardless yeah like 202 uh oh yeah look at that literally D Sumer is nailing it on the head right there 98% on sweet spot okay so y you gotta you hit the ball on the sweet spot but it doesn’t amount to much it doesn’t amount to much it’s also tough to actually get like a good sample size in you know 40 at bats this was this was MVP 21 year well yeah can you give me this be can you give me this Johan no he can’t like not anymore not really so yeah okay well that’s uh that’s a thing that’s great the Blue Jays are going to going to be dumpster di again I’m going to be so depressed if they if this is it I’m be so it can’t it just can’t be that way simply no it cannot be that way 364 people in here right now if you haven’t already done so please hit that like button and smash the Subscribe button everybody let me take a look right here we are over 200 likes on the Stream So W in the chat guys can we get to 269 that would be incredible and if you haven’t already done so please hit that subscribe button guys as you been seeing people have been subscribing all stream and their name pops up right there yeah we got uh over 40 new subscribers in this stream alone let’s in the chat for everybody who joined the community you guys are the freaking best and yes it does feel like I didn’t even need to put a uh uh um a or a a poll in this um but everybody is saying Ernie Clement is the guy that they would prefer D 100% man at one point it’s like the kind of player that Yan monata is that like the kind of like role he’d play is like be a good glove and and you know have a high batting average you know I’m not expecting a whole lot shout out to Daniel okell for subscribing um where he doesn’t play good defense and he doesn’t have a decent bat I don’t know it just feels like a long shot right now I’m also kind of looking at Twitter trying to find something right now trying to find an update but it may not be coming I mean we’ll be definitely going live tomorrow guys we’re going to keep this rolling just a little bit longer again submit the questions in but whenever there’s something that is immediate you know like oh the Jays are about to do this boom even if it’s not one if it’s [ __ ] if it’s you on Manata we’re going to go live you know we’ll we’ll do it it would suck but uh we’re going to do you guys think you will hit 100,000 subscribers uh I don’t know if we’re ever going to be hitting 100,000 subscribers honestly maybe if the Jays go on some magical like you know um historic generational run where they go to the World Series like three or four years in a row maybe uh but it but it seems unlikely everybody maybe if we got shoy Otani that would have happened yeah they need to first they need to sign Juan SoDo then they need to extend vlat and then like you need to like yeah like bring in a lot of these like epic Japanese players and pitchers to build around and then like yeah go on a historic run where you in a crap Little World Series then also I I see uh Jared and here saying Johnny lasagna just posted about Mets on SoDo he did six minutes ago Johnny lasagna uh I he’s a he’s a Yankees fan and uh he did say that a sourc just texted me saying the Mets are now out on wo after signing clay Holmes um if that’s true then W’s in the chat for that however ever I kind of doubt it coming from a Yankees fan such as himself yeah I mean like that’s what he wants to hear you know what I mean and obviously it’s a bit of a troll so um could you imagine though like yeah that 34 mil or 38 mil that can’t do more than that you know that’s literally going to be it man can you imagine if we go through all this [ __ ] and he just goes back to the New York Yankees like that would like I think that would I think that would make like piss me off even more than him going to the Mets I want him to go to well I want him to go to the Mets to get out of the just get out of the division get out of the division get out of here like get out of the division uh we don’t need to deal with you anymore uh obviously like you were great for them and you actually you brought them to a World Series uh happy that they did not win but I don’t need to see that happen anymore you know appar there five teams in on Corbin Burns oh this is five hours ago I don’t know how we missed this what is this where is iton franisco so San Fran Baltimore Toronto that’s John Heyman everybody yes saying that we are very much in on Corbin Burns but San Fran Boston New York and maybe Baltimore and Toronto yeah yeah yeah okay okay well we kind of knew that Corbin come over here too come on Corbin yeah I Corbin is absolutely worthy of a big time bottle oh yeah that’s our Ace that’s our like Ace that’s our Ace Ace that’s like our you know I’m betting on him to win Sai Young next year shout out to everybody but I’m literally going to be betting on him to win sa young next year how much money would you be willing to pay Corbin Burns realistically honestly like you brought it up like 250 I’d give him 250 I think that’s what I do think that’s what he’s going to get paid man I think that anything less than that it you know it it just doesn’t it doesn’t make sense when Snell got 182 you know and then when you look at a Garrick Cole who got you know 334 around the same age like I think 250 is right around the value yeah I mean look at this guy right a career 319 erra whip of 1.06 3 and it’s even better in the last little bit I mean last year to two uh 392 [ __ ] if you go back to 2021 he’s been a four four Allstars in a row he’s had an ER of 294 a whip of 1.02 like that’s just so dominant and the Sai Youngs the S [ __ ] he had MVP votes in in 2021 yeah this is this is like better than any pitcher right now on our current roster in my opinion like so this guy would be our number one think about how Elite this rotation would be assuming Gosman bounces back number one is Burns number two is is gsman then you’ve got BOS 3 like that’s a solid three Basset four and then breakout candidate you know brow and Francis five with yiel in the pen like maybe Alex monoa in the wings like that’s a nasty rotation and that’s going to win you games man that’s he he had 15 to n last year that’s going to win you games yeah of course dud I mean like that that’s the type of like I think you got to play like the Washington Nationals um game how they won the World Series years and years ago you know what I mean it’s you had that crazy rotation where it was sherzer it was strawberg and then it was Patrick Corbin all those guys were really great you know and it was like okay like we we genuinely have three Aces and then you know you had enough hitting with SoDo and enough hitting with uh oh they had Trey Turner too they actually a good team there they were a lot better lot better people gave them credit for it um but that would that would be like our win condition you know yeah yeah yeah absolutely I mean again people PR on the chat like 200 Innings too like this guy pitched this guy always pitches Innings like last year he pitched 194 not not 200 exactly but yeah like 194 193 202 you know and then Yuri won sa young he was actually hurt only pitched 167 but he was just so damn dominant he was just so damn dominant he won it all you you know you got got the sa Young I’m keep looking here are you seeing anything on Twitter I’m most looking at question I’m not seeing anything right now on on Twitter like any new updates right we spoke about how soda is looking to be getting over 700 at this point it’s looking like it’s coming down to the four squads that we all knew looking like it could also be like a 15-year deal I guess that was kind of new as well right not going to be the 12 year but looking to be even more than that and that is probably why he’s going to get paid you know close to $700 million also is that one of the like are we comfortable with that I guess you you just got I guess you got to just you know bite the bullet but that’s going to take him to age 41 yeah yeah I’m okay with it you know like we’ll deal we’ll cross that bridge when we get there you know what I mean and hell at that point like [ __ ] like what’s that average annual value at uh that’d be 50 million right yeah [ __ ] like we could have another guy were 50 million at that point maybe that isn’t even that much maybe it’s not even that much at that point you know like people be like oh like that’s just you know the going rate these days going rate for a third starting pitcher yeah you know man we we could be I could be living in a different country in that 15 years from now so who even cares right you know like [ __ ] like to Jin K with a $2 Dono saying will you drink a champagne for getting bregman absolutely Alex bregman listen there’s stuff to there’s definitely reasons to be concerned about Alex bregman um because he certainly has bust potential however that being said he’s still a very quality player and he in the in his career I mean he’s went to several Allstar games won several World serieses um just been great across the board got an MVP votes great defense want to go glove last year yes there could be bust in the future but I mean I’d still be very happy with that sign yeah like I made a video on this like really breaking it down if you guys haven’t checked it out go check it out like it could be a George Springer but it doesn’t matter right cuz we’re what we’re looking for at Alex bregman is to help us win in this two-year window kind of you know I know maybe a one-year window if you’re just considering Vlad and Bo leaving but we have a lot of guys still signed in 2026 so like help us win in this little short period and then we have nobody on the books after that like we have Brios with the player option and then y Rodriguez for like $6 million go we’ll pay him you we can pay for you it’s fine we’ll deal with that later yeah exactly you know and I mean like and Alex bregman now I did hear about this in terms of the contract um so he turned down oh I did hear about that so the AST offered him it was $156 Million I forget how many years I think it was 6 years um if that made sense 5 years it would probably make more sense it years let me try and find it was $156 million from the Astros that he turned down so it was a six-year deal six-year deal yeah sixe deal I’m trying to find the numbers here it6 156 I know for sure it was 156 it was 156 which actually it’s like okay I can see why he turn that down because the average annual value for a six-year deal on $56 million isn’t that great what does that come out to it’ be just over 25 20 26 yeah 26 26 million per year yeah well okay so he’s looking to get he’s looking to get roughly $200 million um which is a lot now I get why he wants it um again you look at that career and that I think that a lot of the career numbers you can say weren’t getting that much money um it scares me a bit because like we said it could be another George Springer but dude give me give me somebody to cheer for okay yeah exactly just give me someone to help us win now that’s the whole focus of this offseason we want to win in 2025 this guy will help you win now yeah you know so if he if he’s wanting the 200 million would you offer him more than 156 uh would you offer him like 175 yeah I think I would too I would to I mean I I think so what would that be let me try to figure out like a respectable like what if he wants if he wanted 30 M for 6 years it’s 180 so yeah like so that 174 29 million per year yeah yeah okay I mean look I don’t love it but it’s it get the job done it’s somebody that is you’re going to Plug and Play at the third base bag every single day it sure as [ __ ] is better than yoan monata it um you know so uh like if it takes us out of the yoan monata sweep Stakes then screw give him 40 a year for all I care hell yeah actually this brought this brings me up another uh topic we’ve barely talked about this but Nolan Nado is looking like he might get traded this off season now I think the contract’s kind of bad for the kind of production he’s had but you know is this a guy that you would want to trade for he’s a free agent in 2028 do you think the best days are behind him obviously he’s still a great defender over there but is this something you’d want to take a shot at uh it depends what they’re asking for uh I I do think I would I I believe in Nolan arado and I think that there was a cancer over there on St Louis last year and there was a lot of good players that just weren’t good at all and I think that there’s something to be said about that you know like it it’s fair especially when you’re a veteran like him to kind of check out and I I would anticipate that something like that happened I think that he is going to perform better offensively speaking next year uh especially with the change of scenery I can’t guarantee that he’s going to be back to the you know 900 Ops that he used to be but I I think he’ll be a lot better and I do think that that you’re G to get some very quality defense from him so obviously depending on what you need to trade to get or or you know to pick him up yes yeah you know what’s funny I mean I I hate to bring it up but uh you look at Colorado when he was the years there obviously he’s y younger but like just the slugging was Unreal and then the moment he gets traded to St Louis granted 30 years old now just blamp just falls off I mean you’re you’re kind of overshadowing that 891 Ops that he had in in St Louis yeah that was obviously a great MVP 3 like that was a phenomenal year too but you know it is uh quite the difference obviously there is age involved here but it is it is something to know that was always a coners it’s always conversation on anybody who leaves uh the Rockies and and there’s no denying you do have more slugging in Rockies yeah of course right there’s going to be an element to that um but you know those career numbers in in St Louis was what 800 Ops that he had you know kind of loosely 271 batting average uh won a gold glove uh several times with them yeah I’ll take that like you know that sounds pretty good to me yeah you know again like I think they’d have to eat the contract or maybe send some prospects because that’s the thing U there was all speculation well if we eat the contract in order to do that they’ll send us prospects that’s kind of a nice little okay we’ll get you for now and then we can have these prospects as part of our pool and maybe someone breaks out who knows dude they’re literally going to pay us prospects to take a future Hall of Famer like okay I’ll take them you know again like it’s you know at the end of the day if they got the money like we know they have the money they’re offering $700 million to wodo for crying out loud so yeah right I I think it’s very fair 360 people in here right now guys we might take a couple more questions and then call it for this evening unless something else breaks but if you haven’t already done so this is a great opportunity for you guys to hit that like and smash the Subscribe button can we finish this stream off at 269 likes if you’ve been holding out on us but you’ve been watching for a little while right now it would mean a lot if you smash that button and then subscribe to the channel for future stuff we got a question here coming in from Lindsay saying hey you guys quick question is Jimmy Garcia up for trade this year or next I don’t remember if they traded him because he was coming up if he is do you think it’s worth pursuing him again thanks and and hope me in my blue jays overall see you at the Dome again this year shout out to linday remember Lindsay um great human being great individual great energy uh what what what are your thoughts of Jimmy Garcia as a whole yeah I mean I’m down for a reunion that’s one of those low grabs that you could probably do like you could probably get him like what we sign him for like s mil we could probably get him for like a little bit less six set five you know maybe seven again like I would absolutely be down for reunion with him I don’t really see any problem with that we know who is more Bullpen guys um are better than less Bullpen guys at this point and we need more Bullpen guys so Jimmy Garcia or Jordan Romano or whoever if you can throw the ball we’ll take you yeah absolutely man absolutely I’m going to grab one more here oh this is a nice little H okay I’ve always assumed this so I’m I’m going to bring this question up it’s about the fifth Ro uh fifth spot in the rotation between yuel and Bowen I’ve always assumed it was always going to be Bowen you know because of how good he was uh but maybe let’s leave up to the chat maybe maybe I’m assuming too much you got this one coming in from Logan they’re asking if the blue jay signed Corbin Burns who do you think will get the fifth spot in the rotation bow Francis or yio Rodriguez love the channel guys thank you Logan it is going to be bow and Francis at least to start um just the way that he finished they would be stupid not to give him an opportunity um I think the yio Rodriguez will get a Lu eventually because you know someone’s going to get hurt some will get hurt and they were going to need somebody to start games and yario Rodriguez it was always reported that when he initially signed his contract he did want to start in the MLB at some point now we got a couple looks last year to varying degrees of results some good starts some bad starts how let’s see it was like I think he finished with like a mid to high four ear when was all said and done um but just in the games that he started too like I remember that there there was a couple in there where it’s like that was a great start and then there was a couple other ones in there where we got shelled for seven runs yeah uh so it really was like you know a flip of the coin with yiel Rodriguez he’s going to get his opportunities but to start the year especially if they sign Corbin Burns it will be uh it’s going to be B Francis yeah like as a starter I mean I wow did he only did he only ever start for the did he I think he only ever started right here there’s no splits for as a reliever so wow no he definitely I thought he for sure are we tripping guys he must have relieved I’m 100% positive he 100% sure why would they not have that then they must have they must have messed up cuz I’m 100% sure he came in first as a reliever and he like piggybacked off someone I’m like 100% sure yeah like it definitely did happen you know um but regardless I mean yeah he he was having a rough year honestly look at the second half numbers 499 yearr in in the second half versus a 367 like we all have that impression of him from that first half but cuz you know we sto paying attention really like that closely to a lot of guys in the second half other than b Francis but like he wasn’t that good and I think he needs to go back into that pen where it’s a little bit more manageable I want to bring up the reliever numbers I thought he was like pretty decent but apparently apparently you don’t have it here we tripping yeah y’s best from the pen that’s what I thought so too Laura Ley like he looked good so for me B and Francis all the way you got you got to see what he has in a full season I mean last year Bowen Francis was heralded from our Channel standpoint as like the breakout guy and that was kind of like our hot take it happened a little bit later but let’s see what happens after a full a full season yeah 100% guys I think that is where we are going to call it for the evening folks we are going to be live tomorrow again potentially for even longer especially more stuff is breaking maybe we’ll have a podcast come out in the morning if there’s some more news that breaks overnight uh but ly anything that happens you can find it on Blue Jays today pretty much right after it does or maybe even before guys so you haven’t already done so like we can say And subscribe to the channel like up the stream and we will see all of 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