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Jeff Gross helped uncover a rare baseball card at a yard sale in Danvers, MA that is estimated to be worth millions of dollars.
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now if you’re listening to this show chances are there was at least a time in your life that you if you’re not currently doing it that you collected baseball cards as uh John knows very well I Haven an during Co I lost my mind with my son and started buying all these baseball thousands and thousands of B wild comes to mind you were investing yeah they’re paying off yeah if you want that Duke Snyder card that’s up on E box break every other day in the toucher household absolutely and uh but we’ve all when when we were kids like it was it’s odd because you would be looking for that Ken Griffey junor rookie you would be looking for that Tony Gwyn rookie you would be looking for that famous Cal Ripken rookie and oddly enough the Cal Ripken rookie and the uh certainly the Ken griffy Jr rookies are almost of no value so that’s good to know because that was the junk wax era certainly not the Cal Ripken Jr for some reason I have a cal Ren Jr graded and is not even the upper deck the upper deck griffy is now worthless I I think that you I mean they’re not worthless I have that in a frame you’re telling me it’s not worth anything yeah you have like all his ones in the frame right I think the way the reason they’re presented that way is their lack of value I think that there was a huge value to it but the anyway the point is this I’ve gone through my parents addict as an addict at their old place as an at the new place as an adult searching for baseball cards and I found some and there was like an AI Smith rookie and I lost my mind that’s why uh I think that we all believe that this is an interesting story it’s been on the news guy’s name is Jeff gross uh Jeff thank you for joining us sir hey good morning I can tell I’m I’m talking to collectors here yes we are all nerds um all right so here’s the deal uh just you tell us what happened uh recently you tell us I won’t tell the story you do sure so um yeah you mentioned a gold ticket uh I think on your promo that’s kind of what I find myself in so there are a lot of us nerdy collectors out there and we were selling my wife’s childhood home and had a yard sale and of course nothing sells at yard sales but a a gentleman rides by in his bicycle and just starts striking up a conversation with my wife and I hear baseball cards so of course I’m bored by the yard sale I lean in to hear more and he said yeah I inherited this collection from my dad and they’re pretty old and he mentions young Tai cob and I’m like okay this is this is big boy stuff right and so um we make arrangements to get together and uh about a month later so he sends me a spreadsheet with all the cards and and I know more about cards than I should probably like you guys but um I recognize them all except for one spreadsheet and I I don’t know these and it’s it says a sunlight Bakery Morehouse baking and I don’t know what these are so I reach out to my expert someone who knows the hobby even more than I do and again I know way more than I need to and my expert he says I don’t know what these are either I’m like okay what could they be so he reaches out to his expert and one of the names on the list is Joe Jackson and this is 1916 so I’m like all right this is shess Joe before he got bounced from baseball so I’m like okay this is a big deal because Joe Jackson cards are pretty hard to find from that era so the experts expert sends me a text and he said if this card is proven to be real your friend has a card that was only rumored to exist and I’m like okay this a big deal yeah wow so I the the last part of the story is is as if it hadn’t already blown my mind gets even better because now I’m super excited I’m clearly not going to be able to afford to buy the buy the collection and I’m thinking oh maybe I can you know help him sell it or find the right way strategy to sell it so a couple of days before I’m already pretty jazzed up to go and see his collection at his home and uh so I said hey you still good for Sunday he’s like yeah yeah by the way I found a few more cards and I went you did um what are they are they in the same warhouse collection she goes yeah yeah they are uh and then he mentioned something and I asked my wife to read this text they said am I reading this right and he said something about the better of the two Babe Ruth cards and I went oh boy oh boy so yeah turns out that these cards have never been bought and sold in the hobby uh at least publicly they’ve never been graded sounds like you understand the grading process but I do want to get into that I I do want to get into I do want to get into that so you so first of all this guy has got these cards if you wanted to of do you think that you could have gone to the guy and gone I’ll buy your collection for $1,000 he’s a very smart guy okay so uh no but I will I will tell you and it’s it’s not great most of the people in the hobby as collectors and dealers are are good people but there’s a sketchy factor out there and and i’ I’ve bought and sold pretty expensive cards before um not at this level the Ruth card is is in the Rea auction starting tomorrow at noon and the minimum bids 150,000 yeah I want to get into that but but I want to I want to talk about like yeah go keep going with the the honesty part go the honesty thing yeah so I I I reached out to a couple of guys that I know probably on the same Facebook vintage pages that you all know or there’s also a message board called net 54 where these crazy Advanced collectors all kind of you know share knowledge and I talked to a couple of people that do buy big Collections and they gave me advice on how to approach the purchas of this collection and and this is really that’s really lousy I mean they they could have taken advantage of him um but again I don’t think you could have walked and offered $1,000 but if someone walked in and said and looked at the and said you know I I have $50,000 cash in my uh wallet here um would you sold I don’t know but it’s been a super fun process because we we pretty much partnered on this um but yeah yeah I mean when people find these things and go search your attic today um especially if you’re in Lawrence Massachusetts where the morous Baking Company used to be um my advice is don’t go to a card show to sell it no uh yeah no cuz their job is to under that yeah yeah you guys know that if you go to a card show people walk around with these wonderful cards and they say to dealers hey you buying and the dealer like if I can turn it around fast of course I can and here’s 60 60% of the retail value it just blows my mind why people do that okay so you get these cards you see these cards now you have they’re not graded they’re loose cards uh and so now you’re dealing with like a fragile lottery ticket you know any mishandling of this can lower the grade um any like finger smudging dust like anything can can do this so what’s the process so now you have let’s say I mean you might have a million dollars worth of cards here so like you go all right uh what’s the next step so you now you you guys have the cards and you’re working with the cards what do you do at this point so so the the nerd collectors here will appreciate this so the national sports card convention is held every year and this year it was in Cleveland and it it fortunately happened to be two weeks after I met with him so I booked a ticket and flew out to Cleveland with one purpose which is to go interview um the major auction houses and I knew this was a substantial uh find so no offense to the moderate Siz ones I just went to the big guys I went to Heritage I went to Golden and I went to Rea and it was pretty clear to me uh I brought one or two of the raw cards not the Ruth of course I’m not traveling with that but one or two of the common cards just so they could look at it to verify they were real and photos of the rest and all three of those companies were pretty excited about this um and and I my day job is I do business deals in healthcare and The Collector and I sat down in my nerdy baseball room I sent you some photos by the way it’s very impressive it’s very impressive that’s a that’s a CO project there um I can relate huh I can relate yeah Co yeah right we can share St and and we just went through and and and decided that ARA was the was the best company and and we have certainly not regretted that decision and now they get those graded through because I see they’re graded through PSA did they get those like do you hand The Collection over and then they handle it they handle the grad a fun part of the story too when we when we reached out to ARA the the president and owner of Rea uh Brian DWI great guy uh young guy he owns a company um he actually uh when we told him on Friday I’m losing track of my dates we told him on a Friday that we’ve decided to move forward with him he booked a flight and flew into Logan on Monday and came here in this little baseball room of mine with the owner myself and Brian signed contracts handed over the cards uh and then we drove to Lawrence and and took pictures of the Ruth and Jackson in front of the for uh former morous Baking Company building which is still there so that was kind of cool okay and so I saw you sent Adam like a the catalog so this is all being auctioned off there’s this huge you know like legit looking catalog how how much uh how much are they guessing because I know what there’re you guys are asking and it’s going to go for more what how much do you estimate approximately what this collection will go for at auction well with all my conversations with folks I think the speculation is that the there’s two routs only one is available in this particular auction the speculation is that’s going to be somewhere in the range of a half million dollars um and then the rest of the cards that are in there Joe Jackson Jim Thorp The Olympian there’s one in there um when he’s with the New York Giants bunch of Hall of Famers and there’s some thought that the rest of those combined might be another 50 to 100K okay so just real quick why why is the Babe Ruth card because they that mantle sold at auction for you know what was it like 2 and a half million what did what did the mantle sell for yeah it’s over 2 million yeah why is the Babe Ruth because it’s in decent Condition it’s a 35 why is the Babe Ruth uh like estimated to 500,000 and just at 500,000 I would like to ask the really wealthy guys that same question uh I’m not entirely sure I don’t spin around at that at that level I read the same stories probably that most collectors do I I suppose you know that that image that you see on that Babe Ruth cart was a a commonly used image um by used by the sporting new initially and then they subbed it out to companies like the morous Baking Company where they put it in loaves of 10-cent bread to incentivize kids to buy bread so I maybe it’s because there are other what they call advertising backs than this one um you know supply and demand I mean this is truly I was going to say one of one I guess in this case it’s two of two right two of two known cards well it’s cool so how much do you think I I I stopped you before he said so Babe Ruth going to go over 500,000 the Joe Jackson you said is in six figures too how much do you think this whole thing goes for at the end of the day you know I think the Morehouse cards themselves which is everything that’s in the Rea auction is pro is probably between six and6 and 700,000 total um but there’s another Ruth card that they’re auctioning off in the next auction sometime in the spring I think I don’t know the dates and and also and I’m literally staring at them right now he has another 800 cards most of them are pre-war what they call t25s which and t6s so these are cards that were tucked in packs of tobacco of cigarettes back in 1910 because what better way to incentivize kids to smoke than to put their favorite baseball player in there right they should still do yeah so I’m I’m I’ve been uh helping sell those cards privately like I said I buy and sell but for something of this Rarity that needed to go Au to auction but I’ve been having a ball selling his other uh tobacco cards online I bought you myself do you sign where do you sell them at what what site um yeah my I’m jent well I have a I have a website myself but I don’t sell there um that’s to to help people sell um so they don’t get taken at card shows but uh no I use there are several Facebook pages that are dedicated to Vintage cards and and there are four or five that are really good uh low on the scammer rate so um if anybody has cards and they want to learn how to sell on Facebook they can reach out to me I’ll tell you the three or four sites that I trust the most but there’s a there’s a really good Community out there and uh and you you can avoid you can avoid the Knuckleheads yeah that’s good well listen you show you showed Adam that you have a rookie George Brett a card that I have as well right how much is that worth uh more in our hearts than in our wallet I’m afraid to say I don’t know a couple hundred bucks 300 bucks even the the mini one even the the cuz I got the little one it’s not the it’s not the big one 20 yeah I can tell from your question back in the day the mini used to be valued more and there’s not much of a premium anymore on the mini over the normal one but I don’t care for that you know when people come to me all the time and since the story broke I’ve had a lot of people say hey can you help me sell my cards I’m like I’d love to tell me what you have well I got a bunch of cards from the mid 80s to the early 90s and I have to break the news to them which is there’s really no Financial value they’re fun cards you know Bo Jackson the Billy Ripken era card all that stuff they’re fun cards they’re just not terribly valuable no but I’m trying to help them learn how to sell themselves because you can sell them you just have to have you know reasonable expectations it’s the crazy old stuff where the where the big money and the you know insane collectors are or the one of one new stuff like I mean you Luca donic at auction just went for a million bucks so I mean there are there are new cards but you’re right yeah that yeah yeah I don’t know much about that I don’t I’m not into that it’s not as fun but I believe yeah my most expensive cards that I have are new so yeah that that’s for sure all right well you’re all you’re all invited to to visit my my baseball cave and that’s an it’s an honest offer and anyone who comes to visit and puts up with my boring tour and walkthrough of all the Stories Behind These players because there’s some wacky wacky guys to talk rub wadell and others you get to open a free pack of 1987 tops baseball cards and if you’re brave enough you can chew The 40-Year-Old gum yeah nice A little rectangle I like it and that an 87 that’s that’s a 25 cent investment for you Mr that’s how much I care about my guests though that’s right Jeff Gro wait wait maybe you’ll be more impressed with this I I I kind of I’m selling myself short you have three choices I’m looking at the boxes now the 87 tops pack which is kind of popular with my friends and guests because they like to say they chewed 40-year old baseball gum uh 1990 upper deck which is not valuable but they’re cool looking cards seconde griffy the one that I think if you come to visit you want is I have have a box of 89 Fleer and I specifically bought this box from an unopened guy who was able to assure me that it had the right serial number that it does have the error card for Billy Ripken and any of your collectors that know anything and someone pulled someone actually pulled an uh an FF card for Billy Ripken from this box if you don’t know there was a run of cards where Billy Ripken had on the butt of his Bat F face and um and they they found it too late and so there’s a impr printing of cards that have that on it very valuable and well I guess not but the but the yeah so the breett card is not worth that much I didn’t think it was worth like a ton but I mean look it enough to buy us lunch nice show lunch was missou those cards from the 70s I don’t know I mean when I got into vintage heavy about six or eight years ago I kind of made a note to myself like I’m not doing this to make money uh I don’t want to lose money which I haven’t you know they’ve appreciated but you know it’s it’s it’s hard to make money in this in this hobby you can um but you know it’s speculators it’s tough if you’re a collector and you love the cards and you love the stories of the players and so on you can enjoy it and make some money but I’ve never been a big fan of saying okay and you can it’s a huge pain in the ass you got I mean really if you want to make money at it it’s a huge pain in the ass and and you’re and it’s like and then you’re playing the lottery at a certain point it’s I understand what you’re saying you got to you got to like them because if you don’t value them then what’s the point know all right Jeff gross listen uh it’s very exciting uh how do people get in touch with you if they want do you have your own website what is it I do it’s nice of me to ask Jeff gross vintage baseball cards very very creative name I hope people know what I do well that’s not what you want out of it you want you want you want it to be uncreated you want get cute know where they can find you w w last with with a last name like gross it’s hard to it’s hard to forget that name and it’s vintage baseball card so def a pre 1970 vintage baseball cards yeah John Wallock in radio and his fing social media tag is Ken griffy rules catchy griffy does rule thank youy very much Jeff that’s terrible marer his his marketing does not rule all right Jeff gross thank you so much for the time it’s everyone’s fanty all right guys great talking to you and don’t forget come by so you can uh dig into one of these packs absolutely no problem by the way that Mickey Mantle card we were talking about Mantle rookie $12 million yeah I don’t know why the 1952 mantle 12 million I suppose it’s it’s just I I don’t know it’s like you said it’s all speculative who knows
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