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The New York Jets blew it late against the Seattle Seahawks and lost 26-21 to fall to 3-9 on the season. Jake Asman breaks down the matchup and shares his biggest takeaways. Plus, Jake takes your calls and responds to your SuperChats…

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the Jake asmin show will begin shortly thanks to all these great patreon members who help support the show get your super chats ready Jake will be here in just a moment if you love the New York Jets this is the place to be and now the Jake asmin show well the Jets lose again gee who could have saw that happening Please Subscribe and hit the like button below Super Chat baby cut the line now it’s time to talk All Things New York Jack it’s the Jake show ah here we go Jet fans welcome in everybody death taxes and the Jets losing Jets lose Jets lose Jets lose what else is new the month might have changed it’s a new month but the same result happened that we saw in November and October and September and the New York Jets have now clinched a ninth straight losing season nine years of not finishing with a winning record 14 seasons of not making the playoffs which will remain the longest drought in North American Sports but hey we moved up a spot in the tank ofon standings what a joke Jets now slated to pick fifth in a year we all thought at the bare minimum they’d at least be nine and eight have a winning season they’d sneak into the playoffs at the bare minimum nope this team today allowed Seattle to score 19 unanswered the Jets who at one point in this game were up 21 to7 and driving down the field with a chance to lead 28-7 somehow someway blew this game and really we could break down this game and we could talk about how the coaching staff remain horrible we know this we could talk about how this regime needs to be cleaned out and guess what they’re going to be ownership already gave up on the year they already announced plans on who’s going to be hiring the next general manager and head coach but the one thing we didn’t know for sure I think we had an idea but we didn’t know for sure is Aaron Rogers here next year right that was the one thing that I think was still up in the air felt like it was unlikely he’d be here but with six games left if he played well down the stretch perhaps he would be the quarterback next year because a new regime would come in assess their options and go you know what for one year of Rogers we could have him be our Bridge quarterback and then maybe we drive someone behind him that doesn’t have to play right away but I’m sorry as someone who’s been a big Rogers guy and thinks it was the right move to bring him in it obviously has not worked out you cannot watch this game today and tell me you want Aaron Rogers as the quarterback next year you can’t do it and once again these losses are never just on one player but the biggest moment of this game today was the sequence in the Red Zone with the Jets driving and up 21 to7 when he missed a wide open Garrett Wilson that would have gave the Jets a 287 lead and then on the next play the very next play he th is a pick six that’s returned 92 yards by Leonard Williams Because of course the old Aaron Rogers doesn’t do that but now with him about to turn 41 tomorrow he’s old Aaron Rodgers and that’s what he does the bottom line is well the Jets being three and N is certainly not all on Aaron Rodgers given his age given the fact there’s a new GM and a new coach coming in and the salary cap ramifications being what they are he can’t be the quarterback next year unless he would take a substantial pay cut and even then you could argue it just makes sense to cut your losses and move forward and I think that’s what’s going to end up happening I mean this team is three and nine and you look at the statline Rogers produced today 21 of 39 185 yards two touchdowns one pick Andy d could do that next year as the bridge quarterback jamus Winston could do that next year as the bridge quarterback Tyrod on your team right now could do that next year as the bridge quarterback if that’s the direction this new regime wants to go with it’s sad but it’s true Rogers has now had three games in a row where he didn’t Eclipse 200 passing yards he’s not what he was that we know but it’s not getting better and I held out hope that he’d get healthy over the week and I think in the first half he definitely looked healthier he moved around he extended plays better than he had he even threw a lead block on that trick end round play to Malachi Corley but there were just too many throws where the accuracy is not there and we thought his mind and his arm would always be there even if the mobility coming off this Achilles injury would not be and now with him not on the injury report for the first time since week week four he went out there today and just didn’t play well he started hot and then it was more of what we have seen so I could give you the rant on how bad Jeff o and this coaching staff is how stupid this team can be how poorly coached they are you know all this the one thing we were looking at though is could this quarterback now seemingly healthy his words play well down the stretch and at least make it a real debate what the direction is I don’t think there is a debate I don’t think you could bring him back if Aaron Rogers is here next year the $49 million in dead cap you would owe if you moved on after this year it then becomes 63 million in 2026 and even if you were to spread it out over two years it’s 21 million in 26 42 million in 2027 what new general manager wants to come in and say yep I’ll bring an Aaron Rogers for one more year and then I’ll mess up my salary cap in 2027 for 42 million against it it’s not going to happen it’s just not we have to accept it is what it is the guy’s going to be 41 tomorrow and he looked like a 40y old quarterback today he looked like a 41 year old quarterback today and once again it’s not just Rogers he’s not the only reason why this team is three and N But ultimately what I was looking to see down the stretch was him potentially playing better to make this a real debate I don’t think it’s a debate right now you can’t bring him back you can’t that said if you want to talk about this game he’s not the only reason why they lost today I mean the Jets had 12 penalties in this game eight of them in the fourth quarter I mean it was a joke 12 penalties for 83 yards eight of them in the fourth quarter 89 penalties on the year poor clock management by Jeff oook what are you doing at the end of the first half with three timeouts in your pocket Jeff you three and eight try and get some points before the end of the first half what do you have to lose he is so unqualified to be a head coach I mean this game was just one of those games that just represents why this team is so bad the lack of discipline the brutal penalties poor quarterback play Drops bad clock management all of it I mean once the Jets got the 21 points which by the way where’s this kid on the kickoffs been all year he’s been on their team all year on the practice squad and they wait till December to promote this guy are you kidding me shout out to him whose name I’m not even going to try to pronounce because I’m gonna botch it K and then it’s spelled NWA n guu GW shout out to him 99 yard kickoff return that was awesome where’s this been all year poor coaching another example I mean this game was just a microcosm of what being a fan of this team has been like this year there were a couple drives early where Rogers in this offense they looked like the team we thought they were going to be this year and then the other team they’re playing adjust and they do nothing the defense folds when it matters and this team beats itself with stupid undisciplined penalties that’s the season that’s why instead of still being alive and competing for a wild card spot they’re three and n and we’re talking about a ninth straight losing season Once the Jets got the 21 points today here were their next possessions pick six turnover on Downs punt end the half where o botched it with the timeouts then here were the four drives in the second half punt Bree Hall fumble which was brutal and he’s got to fix it I love you Bree but you got to be better there he should have had two in this game he got lucky Simpson recovered the other one Punt and then the turnover on Downs at the end I mean this is who the Jets are they’re bad teams bad teams find ways to lose see the Chiefs they always find ways to win and the Jets are the Chiefs in Reverse they’re the opposite they always find ways to lose I mean the Jets this year have had the lead four times in the fourth quarter they’ve lost all those games the the Jets have lost four games this season in which they blew fourth quarter leads if that was just half right two more wins right now they’re in the mix if they had a kicker they’re in the mix but you know what they’re bad team a bad team that is poorly coached that’s just a bunch of guys that do have some talent and every once in a while you do see it but you cannot overcome the coaching and the biggest problem is this quarterback can no longer overcome the environment that is around them see great quarterbacks can deal with mistakes around them because they’ll be able to nullify a lot of it I’ve always said that having a franchise quarterback is like having like deodorant like it erases the stench of a lot of other problems you might have you still have problems but a great quarterback could overcome it and Rogers is not that guy and in fact a lot of games he’s not even average there’s been times where he has been average but then the kicking fails him or the defense fails him so at times it’s been Everything But ultimately this team needs a total restart a reboot they need a new head coach that we know they obviously need a new general manager and the only thing that truly matters now is who those people are gonna be because it’s not going to be Jeff oick or Phil Savage who have those jobs on an interm basis right now and now you’re just talking about playing out the string five games to go you know the Jets are going to win at least one of them because it’d be too easy for them to lose out and we’ll see where they end up picking I mean that’s that that’s where we’re at as sad as it is that is where we’re at I’m not gonna scream and yell and let this game affect my mood the entire week I thought the Jets would lose today and you know what I started to think maybe they’re actually going to win this game when they were driving up 217 but then the pick six happens and the Jets remind you who they are and when someone reminds you who they are believe them and the Jets have done it all year they are a bad football team that’s what they are it’s not just because of Aaron Rogers it’s not just because of the lack of kicking it’s not just because of the defense it’s not just because of Woody Johnson the collection of everything put together is how you’re three and nine and that’s where we’re at right now this is a bad football team really bad and it’s a shame because while they are a bad football team I still honestly do believe there are some really good football players that are on this bad football team and I think you saw some of that today s Gardner I thought played a great game today he did an awesome job in coverage against one of the tougher assignments in the league in DK medf the one big completion he gave up for 28 yards he was with them step for step and give credit to Gino he made a great throw there sa played really well today that was encouraging quinc Williams was great today quinnon was great today there are still pieces on this team I don’t know about you guys but Olu fashion who played his ass off at left tackle Michael nanut said that he had 42 pass blocking snaps he didn’t allow a single pressure he’s gonna be good John Simpson’s a good guard titman is a solid Center avt is a solid Right Guard you have four fits of your o line in place for this next regime you have a legit star and Garrett Wilson who they need to get the ball two more and and that’s on Aaron he missed him on the the bomb to start this game today a better throw he has Garett in stride and he should have had a touchdown a walk-in touchdown on a nasty double move that would have put him up 287 you have him I I know Bree has had his issues but Bree still is a game-changing type of player there’s pieces here but they’re not coached and they need to get better coaching and they could be competitive next year I mean this team’s still Has Talent on it which is why on one hand it is infuriating that they’re three and on but on the other it’s why this job I don’t think is as bad as maybe some make it out to be but you need to bring in the right people to fix this it’s the only way it gets better the only way but it is very frustrating to lose today but I’m not giving you the screaming and the yelling because you know what at the end of the day this team has shown you time and time Time After Time who they are believe them they’re not good and you know if they lose out it is what it is they win some games here or there it is what it is there’s a new regime coming in and the decisions they make to reshape this franchise that’s the only thing that matters because there’s really nothing to look forward to with this season remaining that’s it they’re three and N just brutal I I mean how ridiculous were some of these penalties this team took today it’s just if you don’t laugh you’ll cry it’s just it’s sad it’s sad I still care way too much and this game means nothing nothing this team’s bad if they won today it wouldn’t mean anything oh they’re four they’re four and eight it’s just it is sad that we are here but ultimately we know what this team is they have shown you who they are all year believe them they’re a bad football team but you look at what was on the line today Aaron Rogers future I still felt was up in the air if he played well down the stretch they don’t have a GM they don’t have a coach let them decide but we got to sit here and acknowledge what we’re seeing we’re watching a 41 year old quarterback who looks every bit his age 21 of 39 today 185 yards couldn’t break 200 yards passing for the third game in a row he moved a little better today but now the accuracy is not there you can’t justify with his cap ramifications bringing him back that’s the takeaway from today if there is any big picture takeaway it’s that Rogers we thank him for coming here he tried to do the right thing he took the pay cut tried to lead this team last year when he got hurt he’s just not what he was and this team was not the team you were supposed to have but now that’s in the past that is it is what it is you can’t change that you know we don’t have to act like the Jets can’t find some who could put up Rogers statline today they can and once again while not all on him one possession game in the fourth quarter Aaron Rogers had the ball this is now the fifth time that’s happened with a chance to go win the game and they haven’t won any of the games you know the Denver game we could say zerine missed the kick which is true but it’s not like Rogers played great in that game before then he was getting his you know what kicked in it was a 50- yard kick sirine missed he didn’t get it done in London I was unfortunately there he didn’t get it done against the bills on Monday night had the ball laid against Indie didn’t get it done I mean at some point you got to come through it’s not because he’s not trying it’s because he’s 40 now G to be 41 tomorrow and that’s unfortunately where we’re at so the Jets lose 26-21 Seattle scores 19 unanswered Jets who haven’t scored 30 all year had 21 points at halftime and then they don’t they don’t score again it’s just it is truly remarkable but then you remember it’s the Jets we’re talking about expected comments questions super chats they cut the line we’re presented today by Joe deiso reality sell ajo.com Jet fans if you’re thinking about selling your home if if you really have any question involving your home Joe and his team are the best at what they do the number to call Joe is up there on the screen 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button if you’re tuned in right now we got over 1,200 in here thanks to everyone who heard me on ESPN New York uh for a quick 90minut show from 4 to 5:30 so let’s get to some super chats nyj starts us off here he says great great loss for the great cause time to focus on the new GM coach and arm them with a high draft pick then comes the quarterback and winning culture hopefully look if you want to talk about losing to get a better pick it is what it is how you root has no imp on things I wanted to see this team win today you know I I don’t want these young players to get used to losing but it is what it is there’s a new regime coming in what you don’t want is this team quitting and that’s the one thing you could say they didn’t quit today but you know what happens next week on the road in Miami you you look at the schedule there’s five games to go in Miami next week in Jacksonville Rams at Buffalo home Miami I believe that is the schedule I know those are the opponents I think I got the order right I might be off with what I said I mean other than Jacksonville the Jets are not going to be a favorite against any of these teams they play if I had to pick a game for them to win I’d love to stick it to Miami next week I would but who knows Joe the jet writes and I’m sick of our players overperforming on other teams I mean is what it is Joe I get it Leonard Williams though I mean he he it’s not like he went from the Jets to the Seahawks he went to the Giants in between and Gino I mean Gino’s played on how many teams before he finally got to Seattle am I missing anyone else I guess Jason Myers had a huge kick today but you know that was a Mike mcag mistake years ago Robert writes in watch us ruin our draft pick when we beat the Jags yeah I mean look expect the Jets to probably win another game or two I mean I know I am Joe says we need to draft a quarterback they do but you don’t want to force a quarterback you don’t just take a quarterback for the sake of taking a quarterback you need a new regime to come in and actually believe in the guy they’re picking Alfredo says Herbert equals Tua equals zero playoff wins I’ll tell you what either one of them right now is better than what we have though especially Herbert big fella when did Rogers start staring down receivers and foring forcing throws to Devonte old Rogers would never do that I mean the problem is old Rogers would never do that but now he’s just old Rogers he’s 41 big fow thanks for calling the radio show tonight too Tyler writes and I pray for a season next year isn’t our vocab yeah I mean it’s depressing on December 1 to talk about the draft and to talk about the coach and GM this year has hurt more than any other year any other year I mean they have beating me man I I was numb watching this in the second half today the old Jake asmin talking about the old Aaron Rogers the old Jake asmin would be flipping and you know what they beaten Anatomy I can’t scream and yell right now if I do that I’d show more passion than some members of this team have shown this year Trey says coaching matters get someone like Rexx or Rael I mean Mike Vel remains my number one choice this team needs a disciplinarian a culture Setter someone to come in that’s No Nonsense that could hold guys accountable this this this organization needs a total reset this is the closest the Jets have been to where they were in ’96 and then obviously it changed quickly when they hired Bill Parcels that’s where we’re at right now you know you look at the 96 Jets they won a single game and then they went nine and seven the next year why coaching a lot of those players were still on the team a year later and that’s why I think when they when they eventually hire a new GM and coach this is not a full-on rebuild you tear it all down yeah you need the figure out quarterback there’s no doubt but we’ve seen that with good coaching you could be competitive every year no matter who your quarterback is and not every opening has a number one receiver in place and a really good running back in place and four fits of your offensive line in place and an all pro corner and a elite nickel corner and you know a a really good Edge rusher and Will McDonald and Germaine’s gonna be back next year and quinnon is still obviously you know one of the better defensive tackles in the league Quincy’s unreal like there’s some really good players still on this team but I it’s it’s a rudderless operation right now shout out to Nikki James who became a channel member Nikki thank you just a reminder for those who are into you know Black Friday Cyber Monday if you join the patreon right now we’re offering 25% off all merch items through Cyber Monday tomorrow so midnight tomorrow jasmin.com get your merch it’s 25% off if you want to join the patreon in fact if you join by the end of today you’ll name your name could still be added uh to the countdown ticker for the month of December I have not sent Gator the list of new names just yet Felix with a super chat we need to just continue to move forward and try to get the best GM and coach in here we have talent we just need proper coaching yeah they they don’t have a quarterback but they do have talent but you know you you can’t tell me that this team can’t be competitive next year with the right coaching not saying it’s going to be easy but you know in the past you look at the Jets and it feels like they’re really really far away from having like a good roster they have a good roster I believe in a lot of key areas they just don’t have any coaching I’ve never seen a team that’s coached this bad ever and I watched every snap of the 2020 season with Adam gase Robert says I’d rather see Geor Travis start rest of the season Robert Jordan Travis is not healthy fiori says the gm/ head coaching hire are going to be massive you could feel this fan base ready to implode Rabel or Gruden are the Clear Choices at head coach look John Gruden is an interesting name John guden though is not my number one choice he hasn’t coached in several years it’s not like with the Raiders he was having tremendous success either Mike Rabel I think is so far head of John Geren Peter Castro Redline win out excuses yeah I mean Rogers won’t be here next year Peter he hasn’t played well enough he’s not the only reason why they’re three and nine but a new GM’s going to come in assess the salary cap ramifications and they’re not going to keep Aaron Rogers they’re just not I mean let’s let’s be real Tony writes in Carter Warren and Vera Tucker were awful well I mean Carter Warren is only playing because Morgan Moses got hurt I’d have to watch the film on avt to see how he played Mr Meo writes in Quinn yours I mean maybe I don’t think Quinn is necessarily a guy I would take in the first round but if he’s there on day two and they want to take someone I’m all right I I like Jaylen milro if they’re gonna take a quarterback maybe not in the top 10 but end of the first round if they could trade him he’s got all the physical traits of someone that could be good if he doesn’t play right away he was awesome yesterday against all watching that game but I don’t think I would take him in the top 10 I’m picking the best player available in the top 10 if it happens to be a quarterback then all right we’ll have the conversation but I’m not I’m not there just yet hit the like button if you’re just tuning in more importantly if you’re one of the 12200 people watching the show thank you for the support you guys make this channel what it is we hit over 40,000 subscribers last month which is a huge number trying to get to 50K hopefully we get it get there at some point in the off season we’re at 4,434 so if you can subscribe to the channel if you haven’t already I will certainly appreciate that I’m going to post the gustbuster hotline Link in the chat for those of you to call in and be a part of the show but ladies and gentlemen I can’t believe my eyes right here 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would be immediate upgrades Mike Rael Brian Flores Pete Carol I think the Jets need to strongly consider I know Carol is older but I’m sorry I don’t care if he’s 73 the guy runs around the sideline like he’s in his 50s he’d change the culture overnight if he’d be interested hire a good staff get this franchise back on track I I I don’t think it’d be the worst idea Flor is I like Brooklyn guy two winning seasons in Miami should not have been fired I think he’s learned from his relationship with Tua at the end there right he had a year with Tomlin he’s had two years as a DC now in Minnesota I think he deserves another chance and then Rael is my number one I don’t know if he take this job but you got to talk to him Nick with a super chat how would you feel about taking a flyer on Justin Fields next year yeah if you tell me it Fields is the bridge okay fine I don’t hate it hey William spra is in the house thanks again to all the Jet fans who helped my wife in her fight with a devastating disease already have spent almost 150k out of pock is there’s no cure thanks again and see you all soon hey William let’s do this right now we’ve been sharing the link to the GoFundMe on the show and in the Discord William’s a longtime viewer of this uh YouTube show great guy always givs a ton of memberships he’s going through a tough time of course with his wife I just posted the GoFundMe Link in the live comments so if you have the means to donate please contribute and support William and his wife who are going through a very tough time nyj says have a left tackle while going into the quarterback hunt yeah I mean I I know you know Brock bers has been awesome this year let’s remember what the debate was can the Jets justify taking a tight end in the top 10 when they have a glaring need at left tackle and you could say well they had Tyron Smith Jake well Tyron Smith wasn’t any good and now he’s done for the year I think Olo is gonna be really good so if you hit on Olu fashu at left tackle I think it was still the right pick even if Bowers ends up being you know a pro bowl tight end I think the Jets record would br BR Bowers would be three and on the Raiders stink with Brock Bowers you know I think a couple things could be true it was the right move to take Olu and Brock Bowers is a really good player I didn’t think it was I don’t I didn’t think the Jets could justify that risk I like Olu FAS you know I think he’s good I think he played really well today it’s encouraging Tyler says fans viewing Rex through beer goggles he ruined us after 09 and 10 giv over the roster ran to the ground this quarterback class is dog water I mean I like Rex I think we need to know who the coaching staff around Rex would be I asked Mike tanum about this when I hosted the Michael K show with Ty Butler on Friday check out that interview on my channel I posted it if you missed it Rex is going to get an interview but one of the questions you have to ask Rex is what have you learned since you hav’t coached what’s going to be different this time around and what’s your plan for the offensive staff his son is a receivers coach on the Lions can he bring someone with him from Ben Johnson’s coaching staff in Detroit bo writes in it’s impressive that we have coaches watching the same game as us and still get it wrong in historical fashion let excuse me let it end already huh I mean how perfect was the end of that first half Jeff Alber keeping four timeouts in or three timeouts in his pocket when the team’s three and eight I’m I mean how perfect was that Allison says I would like the new coach to be Rex I get it Rex has a lot of supporters PBM writes in when you think we can’t be a bigger embarrassment I mean like it was a bad loss but like embarrassment like Seattle’s a better team than the Jets embarrassing was losing to jacobe brassette in Foxboro and embarassing has been like everything leading up to this team being three and eight in the first place I’m almost numb to a game like today I really am comments questions super chats cut the line hit the like button if you’re just tuning in we’ll get to your calls momentarily here on the gustbuster hotline once again for those tuning in late Jets did move up a spot in the tank ofon standings this is before the conclusion of the late window games jets are three and nine they’re picking five right now due to a weaker strength of schedule they’re in front of the Titans despite the fact they have a head-to-head win over the Titans isn’t that stupid by the way how the NFL does that if I’m a Titans fan I’m saying wait a second they beat us why are they picking in front of us but we’ll take it Felix Super Chat cuts the line we need to bring back Moses and draft a right tackle because Warren isn’t the long-term answer I’d look to bring back Morgan Moses depending on what he wants they definitely need to find a long-term answer right tackle though I mean Morgan’s a warrior playing through injuries all year let’s say hello to James B he starts us off on the gustbuster hotline James what do you got for us if you can James ah if we aim at the same James thanks for wasting all of our time playing video games on the air tremendous the hamburger is up next hey hamburger he hey what’s up Jake how you doing I’m hanging in hamburger how are you hanging in there got a little Christmas Christmas uh ornaments done this weekend watch a little football today listen we went to this game with our Focus mainly on watching Aaron roders really when he came down to it and to see what Aaron Rogers was going to do and how he’s going to perform he came out first first half he was okay he showed some signs of Mobility um getting out of the pocket made a few plays but you know that missing throw to to Wilson in The End Zone was a killer man and then throwing that pick sticks oh was that ball was deflected right sure I think it he didn’t see Leonard Williams there though like he clearly didn’t see him and he it’s just like Aaron Aaron Rogers of old doesn’t make that throw old Aaron Rogers which is what he is now at 41 tomorrow he makes those throws he’s not the same guy it’s it’s sad but it’s it’s it’s true I’m not making any excuses for him tonight I don’t care about the wind I what I saw tonight was an old quarter back really I saw an old quarterback um it didn’t change didn’t change my mind about him coming back next year I’m still on defense there’s still five games left but what I seen tonight didn’t didn’t make me want to keep him next year that’s for sure um and coaching you know coaching is the coaching what we’ve been dealing with all year not calling those timeouts when you have you know more than a minute on the clock left and your defense is stopping them you don’t call the timeouts you end up getting the ball back with six seconds I mean it’s just inexperience at coaching it’s what we all thought I didn’t go into this game thinking we were going to win I want to win I want to win I’m rooting for it but listen it is what it is we just look at what we have and and try to you know you got to see stiggers tonight for the first time a little more of Corley little more some of the guys that we’ve never seen so maybe there’s a couple gems inside of the the guys that we can rotate in and out to see what we got next year for coaches coming in and putting some things on tape but other than that man it is what it is take every week and and just focus on certain players and see where we can go we’re not you know like I said I I said it after Steelers four and 13 and I I’m I’m sticking to that if we get another win man I just I don’t know it’s it’s tough I feel bad for any Jet fan that thought we were GNA go and win it out the rest of the way it’s not going to happen just take it as it is and you know don’t get too pissy let’s see what this franchise can do and get a GM in here and a coaching here and see where we go next year man just week by week only five games left take five that’s it I mean look somehow there’s five weeks left hamburger amen it’s just it’s tough it really is it’s just the amount of things that have happened this year and then it’s like wow there’s still five weeks to go and now at nine losses it’s like you’re already clinched a losing season so like for those of you holding out hope hey nine and eight is still possible and now it’s like now what the the one thing to watch is now that they’re mathematically eliminated I guess not technically but let’s be real they’re three and nine do they sit Rogers down do they play Tyrod I mean I don’t know I wouldn’t play Tyrod I don’t see the point Ty Rod’s got an injury history what if he gets hurt if you’re playing as Bridge quarterback Tyrod why play him out why put him in a game where he can get hurt again I don’t know doesn’t really matter I rather just Rogers just play out the string it is what it is sad but that’s where we’re at Matias wants to know if the Jets were a band what would they be called this might be more interesting than uh talking about this game oh the pain the New York Jets like the video if you’re just tuning in Jets lose 26-21 at one point they were up 21-7 with the ball driving Aaron roders wide open Garrett Wilson incomplete next play Pick six game completely flipped brutal Jets football baby experience pain and of course it’s Leonard Williams it’s funny because Leonard Williams on the previous drive committed a huge face mask penalty on third down where the Jets would have had to punt Rogers took a sack that knocked him out of field goal range but then they got a new set of downs they ended up scoring a touchdown and then Leonard made up for it because he blocked the Pat and then he had the pick six go figure Tyrone is up next on the gustbuster hotline hey Tyrone what up Jake my [ __ ] hey this hilarious man only a j t fan could understand what’s going on you know I I was backstage for a minute um you know I had to come out the Family Dollar get some toilet paper because the J and [ __ ] it all over me this year just like they do every year man I’ve been a Jet fan since n 198 [ __ ] three man the pain and the anguish we need some young coaches and [ __ ] like you we need a general manager like you man you know what I’m saying somebody [ __ ] know how to every year wait a minute every year we know what to expect Jake every year we know all we all we are is a quarterback away every year we know oh we got to get better in the middle and [ __ ] we go draft Dwayne Roberts and and people like that oh you know [ __ ] we got a problem solv we got pass rushers like Calvin pace and John Abraham and it still managed to [ __ ] up man but you know stability is a strong word in the NFL you know I talk about creativity and all the coaching paths and [ __ ] but stability is a strong word you look at a coach like Mike Tomlin you know what he ain’t going nowhere he might seem like he on the hot seat we fire our coach in the middle what it wasn’t Tyrone we were losing there you’re losing you there uh I appreciate it I I’m not qualified to be a GM or coach but I’ll tell you what I am qualified to do recognize when a team is poorly coached and recognize when a team mishandles their roster and we have seen that all our concerns about how Douglas handled the defensive line this off season we were right to have those concerns our concerns about this coaching staff turned out to be true and obviously it was expedited with the decision of fire Salah five games in I mean what I am qualified to do is see the obvious this team needs someone to come in and completely change the culture and it’s not easy to do it’s why I think you need to hire someone with experience someone who’s not learning on the job because I have said this if you’re the GM of the Seattle Seahawks if you’re the GM of the Houston Texans if you’re the GM of ‘s another random team in the NFL the Tennessee Titans you’re the coach of those teams there’s pressure there’s scrutiny it’s not to what you experience when you’re dealing with the New York media Market when you’re dealing with this fan base the history that this organization has it’s a different level of pressure when things go bad it it’s noisy here it gets loud real loud it’s not just the guys on the beat the Jets are become a national punching line too so you need someone that has done it before that’s not learning on the job it’s why I really value experience when it comes to these roles I don’t want a firsttime coach who’s never done it before unless you’re telling me it’s Ben Johnson where you’re finally gonna get like the top offensive minded candidate like Aaron Glenn loved him as a jet think he’s really qualified to be a head coach I can’t hire a guy with a defensive background who’s never been a coach before head coach I can’t do it I gotta pick from someone that’s done the job before whether it’s Rabel Flores Rex Gruden Pete Carroll if stefansky somehow is fired he’d be my number one guy I I cannot bring in someone who’s learning on the job again I I just I don’t think you could bring in someone to this situation that’s learning on the Fly I don’t think you could do it super chat from Bo nobody on the staff’s qualified Jake for head coach h I’ll tell you what if I was the head coach we would have used our timeouts at the end of the first half that I promise you would have been different today I couldn’t believe ook was just going to be satisfied going into the half and not at three and eight trying to get the ball back to your offense which up until that point it actually moved the ball for a lot of the game they stopped moving the ball after the pick six that was it right they didn’t score again but until that point the Jets had moved the football like they looked like a functioning offense for most of that half and we’re just going to save three times timeouts why you’re not going to keep them when you go to your new job as a linebacker coach of the Cardinals next year Jeff o like brutal Andrew Yale writes in Jake honest question how quickly could we turn around with the right GM and Coach we have talent give me hope I mean you see year-to-year turnarounds in the NFL so I mean it can be turned around next year I know people are gon to be like what but it’s true look at Washington look at Houston look at Denver Detroit turned it around in two years but at the end of year one you felt like they were headed in the right direction when they finished 89 after I I think they were one and five to start that year or two and six like we have been conditioned as Jet fans oh these rebuilds they take years they really don’t if you have the right people making the decisions that’s why it’s astonishing that Joe Douglas was in his sixth year five if you count drafts and free agency right like fifth full year and he lost two-thirds of his games like this had to be the year they win and a how could they fire are you kidding me has anyone paid attention like the record’s got a matter Robert Salah 20 and 36 like coaching matters man look at what you’re seeing in Denver Houston look at what you’re you’re seeing in Washington even Seattle right like Seattle is doesn’t have like the greatest of rosters Gino’s a nice quarterback he’s serviceable he’s a good starter and they’re in the mix the Cardinal like it it doesn’t need to take forever if you have the right infrastructure so you want hope the hope is that you can be one of those teams if you get it right but you know no one has any faith in Woody getting it right you shouldn’t but even a blind squirrel does find a nut you know the Knicks were a bigger mess than the Jets now the Knicks finally have the right people in charge more of your calls right now let’s say hello to Peter Castro Jr what’s up Peter what’s going on Jake how you doing today I’m good your dad called me on the radio but they cut him off too early I was up against it with a break ah Another Sunday we were actually kind of happy in a certain way that Seattle won I hate to say it but at this point what am I what am I rooting for I might as well the way I’m looking at it is the higher we can get in the draft maybe the new regime will uh find the quarterback that they’re looking for that’s what I’m hoping for and you know we’ll see how that goes but I mean look look at today you actually saw them come out with a little creativity right I saw Malachi Corley on a on a reverse I saw a play where they put Bree in motion and you know went the other way they kind of did some things you came out and saw a 14 nothing wow you might actually this could be a runaway game and then like you said you have that play that kind of is a 14-point swing and you almost knew right then and there that this is going to go down that same path and I was actually pretty good with it because at this point what are we winning for I mean I’m indifferent you know they won I’m not going to be upset like great you know it’s better than losing I guess but if they lose like you know it is what it is you know they they’re they’re picking fifth right now can they get a little higher with some losses here and maybe be in range for a quarterback as you said it’s possible you know like it is it it is what it is like I I was holding out hope that Rogers was going to play well down the stretch because he’s healthy but what I saw today was more of the same I saw a guy who did move a little bit but then he was inaccurate when it mattered and at the end of the day like I I don’t think a new regime’s coming in saying we want Rogers at age 41 as our quarterback no way yeah no I mean you know he he not only missed gar Garrett wide open but he he missed a lot of passes today if you really looked he did and uh you know I mean a lot of my friends who from Green Bay said you know we knew this a couple of years ago we didn’t watch him every single day but in that last season in Green Bay if you go look he threw pick to end the they had a chance to make the playoffs at the end of the game and and they lost to Minnesota you know he was uh he he wasn’t great then and it’s starting to show you know last year was like a a lost year so maybe we would have found this out a year earlier possibly but I think now it’s like who are we beating maybe Jacksonville Maybe maybe I don’t think that we’re beating the Rams I don’t think we’re beating Miami and I don’t know if if Buffalo is going to need that game or not but I I see one more win possibly that’s it what do you think yeah I think probably one more win but knowing the Jets Peter would it shock you if they won a game they’re not supposed to like I would expect it people will be mad but that’s what this franchise does they could have won today you know that like that’s the thing outside of the Arizona game they have not really been blown out of late you know Indie came down to the last possession it did you know Houston they won New England came down to the last possession today came down to the last possession you know they play Miami Jacksonville the Rams Buffalo then Miami again I think they’re definitely winning at least one more game I’d be surprised if they lost out I’m not saying that’d be bad if they did like it is what it is I’ve accepted this season for what it is it’s the biggest disappointing season in the history of this franchise in my opinion but I I expect the Jets to win another game this is this is what they do ladies and gentlemen the L man has gifted a five spot of Channel membership [Music] all right if you hear your name called you thank ly for paying it forward Mike Dem Salvatore Trice G aen and Chris K all receiving Channel memberships in fact I’m seeing this right here the L man is actually on hold so let’s say hello to luppy who’s up next on the gustbuster high doing I laugh my ass off every single time you play that I I can’t I cannot stop laughing every time I see Bobby with say say that’s classic I appreciate it I just got to say wow wow another way to lose Jesus I mean they just know how to just take your heart out and just rip it out every time I mean 40 50 something years I’ve been doing I can’t even count anymore I’m just so upset but they find a new way they like maybe they oh my God we’re getting the breaks and then all of a sudden penalty penalty penalty and the coaching oh my God the coaching was so horrible today it was just it was cringing worthy and then at least you can see Seattle changing and then running the ball and you didn’t think they’re running the ball and running for eight nine yards running up the gut and then they finally stop one it’s like we were watching waiting for them to do something and then reacting to it all the time the coaching was horrible I mean we can turn it around with the right coach we can I know we can uh and listen Aaron Rogers for the first time looked like you know pretty good he did except for that freaking pick six that nobody wanted to tackle the guy I mean it just was crazy uh I’m just a little bit up in arms in that and uh you know and the coaching is both sides of the ball too it’s everywhere and we got a couple of breaks we got breaks that we never get and we still lose the game it’s like crazy I mean I know I’ve seen some bad jet teams this team’s bad because of its coaching more than any other team I’ve seen like the 2020 team gase was a bad coach but that roster was putrid this team actually has some really good players on it and it’s evident by the fact they continue to be favorites in these games it’s evident by the fact they continue to have leads in the fourth quarter of these games they fall apart because they’re the worst coach team in football I know Woody screwed us so bad but I mean Sol was a bad coach but not a horrible coach and you pull out a coaching staff that’s held together by a house of cards yeah what the hell you think is gonna happen I what do you listen to the fans though let’s not forget every call I took from people for a year was fire solid he’s the worst he’s terrible so I mean what he listened and Gary’s and Allen in your head sometimes though too so I mean it made and look I I wasn’t necessarily against firing Salah in season I just didn’t think it would happen Shake give him a fair Shake give him a couple more I mean that was I thought that’s what I thought was gonna happen but they made their decision at backfire but they weren’t going to go anywhere with this head coach anyway if he even stayed so like the bottom line is this this season unfortunately was doomed from the beginning because this coach was not good enough to overcome you know some of the issues that did actually end up existing like no one could have predicted zerline being what he was or Tyrant Smith being shot and just a bunch of things that you never could have anticipated going into the year you know what I did anticipate I said I’m gonna sit down I’m gonna watch this game and my heart’s gonna be ripped out then I start watching like no we might win and then bang here it is you know what I’m saying it’s like ah I believe I believe I believe every game you know Jet fan bleed bleed green I get it look it’s uh it’s it’s it’s tough fluffy but you thanks for the therapy five games left man and thanks for uh thanks for buying some merch over the weekend man I appr always I’m buying the merch I can’t wait I’m got to get the white hat I didn’t see it for some reason I don’t know you gave me the link thank you for that now I’m gonna have a white polo the white I’m gonna be golfing on the course and hopefully the Jets I love it ly you’re the b appreciate your support dude ly checking in uh hit the like button if you’re just tuning in get to more of your calls here first a super chat from Sexy Rexy Rex Ryan who says we should hire a ref as our head coach embarrassing how many stupid penalties we had today yeah look NFL refs are terrible we know that but I’m just I’m not giving the Jets a pass like they’re undisciplined bad football team you don’t get the benefit of calls from the officials when that happens but the refs are bad but this this has been a problem all year they have 89 penalties this year they had 12 today and eight of them we in the fourth quarter and as I have in my notes four of them on the Seattle game-winning drive it’s just you can’t make it up Allan Hernandez writes in hopefully not related to Aaron it’s been said time and time again coaching is letting the team down by not keeping our guys in the moment lack of discipline lack of adjustments yeah the coaching is brutal brutal I mean the the the coaching is like a wet Charles Gorman fart excuse me that’s where we’re at with the coaching all right let’s call for what it is more of your calls right now ladies and gentlemen the great gator mclusky is on the line hello Gator hey what are you doing you know Gator I ask myself that often when I do these shows after losses what am I doing well I’m happy to see that you’re uh you’re not flipping out over this one I had a feeling I think most of us saw that this one was going to have you sort of at an even Keel um I I had uh I had a thought that I wanted to share and of course I’m not breaking any new ground but we’re always blaming this loss on the kicker and this loss on well if this happened or that happened we’d have three or three more wins or four more wins I honestly think that if we had decent coaching that every one of our losses could be explained because no matter how you look at it every player whether it’s Bree Hall fumbling or the way the defense gives up points or you can blame Aaron roders in the way that he played or this player or that player it just so much of it points at to coaching to me that that they’re the ones to blame you know I think if we had a last year we were saying if we had a top five quarterback a top 10 quarterback top 15 quarterback we compete right we’re in the playoffs I I think if we had a top 15 coaching staff were in the playoffs I really do this coaching staff is absolutely embarrassing embarrassed to wear this hat I mean let’s let’s like insert a coaching staff to this team and guess what the record would be like I If you get if you put like we’ll start with the best of the best you put the Steelers coaching staff on the Jets which their record right now it’s probably flipped right with this version of Rogers it’s still it’s flipped or maybe they have a win or two less like Shanahan McVey probably the same thing even if you put like sha mcder I think is a good coach he he deserves enough credit he doesn’t get enough credit for the job he’s done there stabilizing things after they were a joke for 20s something years before he got there like it just it just it feels like the the biggest issue with this team and there there are many it starts with the coaching staff from top to bottom and and Woody obviously escalated it and made it worse with the decision to get rid of solid just five games into the season yeah and everybody that’s hating on Rogers I get it he didn’t play well I I still believe that if he ends up on another team next year if he decides I think there’s a very good chance he retires that he hopefully looks at himself in the mirror and says you know what maybe I’m done but if he doesn’t okay and if he makes a run here maybe you know shows something in in the last five games and then some team takes a flyer on them I mean let’s say Miami for example God forbid decides you know what to a he’s too he’s too uh concussed or whatever let’s bring Rogers in for a year we’re ready to win now we’ve got these great receivers we’ve got a plan in place huh I don’t want to face Rogers on Miami next year because you know what’s going to happen I mean I we’re like conditioned to assume if he goes anywhere else he’ll be great which maybe does happen but I just don’t think the Jets themselves can worry about that you know like the cap ramifications are what they are they tried it it didn’t work I don’t hate the guy I will wish the guy well I he’s just he’s 41 years old now and he looks like it and if he gets better elsewhere like God Bless but you know with Favre going elsewhere Favre showed you when he was healthy he was a lot better than Rogers was this year like he was and then he got he played through the injury which affected his performance Rogers had some moments but the only complete game where I thought he was excellent throughout was the home opener against New England and that was really it like there’s been moments gave you a great half against Houston when you and I sat next to each other at the stadium he gave you you know some great moments against the bills at metti he gave you you know some really good throws even against the Colts a couple weeks ago but he’s just no longer consistently capable of putting together a full game and he’s going to need to do that to overcome how bad the coaching is around him and he can’t do it but what quarterback could you have plugged into our scheme with our coaches that it would have made that much of a difference I I think someone like Allen or momes or Lamar guys who can move Herbert like they it’d be a lot better you know if you tell me that I don’t think Tyrod Taylor would have made that much of a difference though I really don’t no all right now one last thing I’ll leave you with is uh game is over I’m I’m my usual miserable self and my wife says to me y all right and I’m like I’m just tired of this team losing she’s like what’s the difference between this year and every year don’t they always lose and I said you know honestly and I hadn’t think about it till that moment I said this year hurts more than any and you’ve said this as well because this is the most talented team I feel like we’ve had in really long time I said so this one actually hurts more than any of the other ones I don’t know if you can understand that as like an someone that’s like my wife that’s not a football fan but it’s like wow what a wasted potential year we just H just sat through a total waste it’s brle it just this year hurts the most because we waited so long for it too you know because of the injury last year and then we finally get to this year and we never got to really enjoy it outside of a two in one start two-way years horrible hor a better days my friend Gator keep up the great work now I do have one request so in the intro it says season on the brink you G have to change that too season over as we play the after loss intro for potentially five more games I’ll try to get the motivation to do something H Gator mcluskey everyone give him a round of applause one of the alltime greats hit the like button if you’re spamming the chat with fake news about Juan stto you’re gone I I I don’t need people being duped into thinking he signed somewhere when he hasn’t uh let’s see C with a super chat with the right leaders this is a winning team and it’s so evident watching them key building blocks already in place can turn it around quicker than most think Garrett Wilson extension day one of the offseason I agree and I’ll say this too see I’ve talked about Garrett a lot on the show I’m not trading s Gardner not not a chance am I trading s Gardner when his value is is lower by the way sa had a great game today that was nice to see you know he hasn’t had a good season for his standards overall the tackling is an issue till it’s not but I thought sa had a good game today really there there were so many players who played well today and they still just find ways to lose we already heard from one Castro we got to hear from the OG Peter Castro ladies and gentlemen get ready because joining us right now on the gustbuster hotline is the biggest mistake they made is not firing this whole crew of [ __ ] before the season started the coaches can’t make decisions they don’t correct anything I mean this is a joke Jake Peter how are you I’m good you you know what the season’s over it’s done and over but I’m I’m thinking of next year I’m really and I really think I I really think they need to get somebody like Brian Flores and get Justin Fields if you want to have an interesting season next year because Brian Flores will keep that team playing properly the way they should play and he’ll hold people accountable and that team this team needs to be held accountable these guys are way out of control way out I mean all the penalties stupid penalties it’s ridiculous it’s really you know it’s it’s too much any fan can’t take this I mean I knew they were gonna lose today it was only a matter of time I mean Rogers had uh what’s his name wide open in the end zone uh Garrett Wilson wide open he overthrew it he had him on a fly pattern that’s the other thing he’s fast as health why don’t they send him on fly patterns more often he had a Beat by five yards if he throws the ball out a little further that’s a touchdown I don’t know if you saw that or not because you were on the radio yeah it just it just everything that could go wrong basically has gone wrong Peter it’s just it’s hard to Fathom I was looking at a uh tweet from Gino Smith where he basically just posted a meme making fun of the Jets let me say this for Gino Smith congrats on being a competent quarterback 10 years after you left the Jets like really you you get to take shots at the Jets you ruined your own future Gino by getting punched in the mouth by a teammate over $600 so please I don’t need to hear from goo Smith feeling like he’s somehow wronged by the Jets give me a let me tell you something Gino Smith is slow as molasses he’s as slow getting rid of the ball as Rogers is he was just lucky a few times today he’s not good they’re not going nowhere with Tino Smith you know that and I know that they’re not going nowhere with him you know he’s been around for a while he’ll have a couple of games where he’s halfway decent but he stinks he stunk when he was here and he still stinks they’re not going to win with him and I got news for you this coaching staff should have been fired before the season started and they wouldn’t have had all these problems but they listened to Mr Rogers he wanted Salah he wanted everybody back he wanted every all these and now that and now that uh Devonte and him were campaigning for o are you kidding me I mean they’re gone I mean they’re just trying to be nice to O So maybe he can get a DC job somewhere else he’s gone yeah he’s got he’s he’s horrible he’s he’s a terrible coach they should let you coach the last five games I think think you would get this team fired up you’d hold them accountable I’ll tell you what they wouldn’t get away with half of what they’re doing and these penalties not acceptable to me I mean the ridiculous penalties that they get the I mean some of them weren’t even penalties that horse Coller was horseshit you know that wasn’t that wasn’t a penalty a that’s only a penalty when you’re tackling the guy but he had let it go and then he tackled him on his legs so that’s not really a penalty that was don’t put yourself in that spot though you know well you know what they’re just a horribly coached team Jay they are we we got the worst coaching staff in college and in the pros they’re worse than than a college football team they’re they’re terrible but anyway uh onward to next year hopefully they get the right GM hopefully we either get uh I really hope we get either uh uh grael or uh or what’s his name Flores the rest of them I don’t see any any the guy from Cleveland’s not going to leave they’re going to keep them uh I’d like to see I’d like to really see Brian Flores and and Gable as the offensive coordinate uh not not Gable uh what’s his name the guy in the Giants he’s gonna get fired Brian da yeah he’s gonna get fired you tell me he’s with Flores I I like it yeah you know what they keep tanking they they’re gonna get both of them going to get fired him and the GM I think I think the Giants are cleaning house too I would agree I think so too anyway have a good night Jake and I don’t really care whether they win or lose anymore I think they’ll lose probably the next four out of the next five they’re not gonna beat Miami the only team that they could possibly beat is maybe Jacksonville and that that all depends on who’s playing quarterback because this team is just so bad they can’t they beat themselves the other team doesn’t even beat them they’ll find a way to beat themselves that’s how bad how badly coached they are Terri they are you know there’s one more name you forgot though how about the OC down in Houston once we get you brick out of here my coaching choices of bab bril first then I want a Queensberry gotta look at Monkey from Baltimore and maybe slow dick in Houston can’t forget about slow dick in Houston ladies and gentlemen are you kidding me kf11 just paid for tonight’s dinner bang bang a $50 super Super Chat hey now I mean you know times are tough right now with the Jets being three and nine but at least dinner’s on the house let’s go KF it’s j e k s Jet Jet Jets I love fireman Ed too as long as Woody is the owner we will swim in the waters of fertility I get it I’m not going to try and sit here and tell you you’re wrong I will tell you though that the New York Knicks right now are blowing out the Pelicans at home 4423 their owner is considered a lot worse than the Jets owner no one’s talking about James dlan right now you know even a blind squirrel can find a nut and you gotta hope that Woody Johnson can hire two people that can get the team back on track just like the Knicks hired Leon Rose and Tom thibo that’s the only way this changes the only thing I’ll say about Woody is that you know he did own this team in 2000 and from 2000 to 2016 they never had back-to-back losing years which is why it’s insane that they now have had nine years in a row of losing football and they did go to the playoffs six times he was the owner when that happened you know he’s a bad owner I’m not telling you he’s somehow good but and you can’t fire the owner unfortunately you can more of your calls right now Kevin’s next Hey Kevin Hey Jake yeah you know on the owner thing you know Woody Johnson like you said jets made the playoffs a bunch of times in the first back half of the 2000s and you know I don’t understand what people think you replace one billionaire with another billionaire and people think there’s going to be like instant change so he hires another consulting firm and all a sudden they’re going to find it’s about coaching it’s about getting the right coaches in the program it’s about getting right general managers that can actually you know have change understand what they’re doing we’ve just gotten the wrong people you know tanam bound was our last good GM that we’ve had Rex had his up and down years but he had a lot of up um and you know but enough with the revisionist history by the way with about Robert Salah I hear this I see it all the time like oh the Jets fire Rober Salah wasn’t a good coach all right he was four and 13 seven- 10 seven- 10 and then in this season with every all the chips on the pushed in going into week six we under 500 so like this this idea that we would have just if we kept Robert Salah or if J Woody Johnson again was meddling even though every Jet fan and you I was on your Show everybody’s on your show 90% of your fans were fire Salah fire Salah and then they’re saying but or Brook was worse well guess guess who brought in who brought in or Brook who brought who built this coaching staff it was Robert Salah Robert Salah built his entire coaching staff Joe Douglas gave him full reain over who he would hire and who would he bring into the building and that’s who is the blame so enough with the revisionist history about Robert Salah I don’t think this team would be any different position right now maybe they have I don’t know one more win who cares so I mean I’m F even if they had a couple more wins like in the grand scheme of things they were not going to win with him as the coach unfortunately exactly Jake and that’s what I’m talking about like so what like you’re G to be still under 500 team we’re trying to not only make the playoffs we’re trying to win a championship that was the original goal so like this revisionist history I’m hearing from the media you know Conor y loves to tweet this stuff out every week he’s like the Jets are this under you know old Bri not on solah and I’m just I’m seeing it it’s such an annoying thing they’ve got going on I don’t know if they do it for for clicks or just to trigger people but it’s just like or that the hackers are four in one because Robert Sal what is he a consultant you think Robert Sal has any influence in the Green Bay building about their winning or or losing I mean it just he developed Jordan love to the player he is today exactly it’s just a complete observed narrative but me this game today was this was a new level absurdity watching this game where you know I was sitting on the couch watching it and just going as soon as they got that pick of six and of course it had to be big cat that made the pick six I said we’re losing the game I mean you and you said many times in the show Once one thing goes wrong yeah once there’s one bad thing that happens the team just folds it’s just you just you feel it you feel it every time when you watch like every Jeet fan knows exactly what you’re describing you’re right I’ve said it on the show before they’re soft like they’re they’re made of glass like they get punched in the mouth and that’s it and like that was the play like yeah obviously Rogers cannot miss Garrett and then throw the pick six that’s bad he can’t do that he should be criticized for that and we criticized him on the show but every time there’s something bad that happens that shouldn’t be the end for your chances of still winning that day like that’s crazy that every time they deal with any sort of adversity they B immediately yep and you’re still up eight points they miss the extra point you’re still in your own building you get the ball to start the second half it’s just and they just couldn’t they just don’t know how to just finish it off it’s it’s it’s incredible to me but yeah this this game was just such a 2024 Jets game that’s the only way I know how to describe it because I know it’s unbelievable Jake and I can’t believe we got five more games to get through it’s it’s hard it’s very hard to watch it’s just it’s it’s it’s tough to stomach man Kevin I appreciate it still five weeks to go like five more of these post games baby you the one smart thing I did was a couple weeks ago I gave away my ticket to Jet Dolphins next week in Miami so I’m glad I don’t have to go to that I I just I can’t do it if any as Maniac is is down there I know there’s a ton of who live down there I hope for your guys sake you see a win but like I I just I can’t do it and I said it on the radio show earlier when I was on ESPN like God bless anyone who’s at this game today all the season ticket holders you know was freezing you’re tailgating you’re bringing the energy and this team gives you nothing again C rights and coaching sucks but Downing called an awesome game yeah I mean Downing I thought did some good things today but it’s just it’s It’s never enough It’s never enough with this team they just beat themselves and also I think Rogers then you know he goes back to his old ways where he tries to force the ball to Devonte or he’s changing out of stuff like Bree Hall was averaging five yards a carry he only had what 16 total carries today he hasn’t had a single game this year where he’s had over 20 carries and and I get it he’s playing through an injury or Brie only had 12 carries today so why why is bran Allen only getting five carries Isaiah Davis only one carry like why why does Aaron Rogers need to throw 39 times today poorly coached team that’s why story Lynn why r mid Titans coach X patch Rex our only hope we have to run it back with Rogers no rebuild thank God we lost today didn’t watch okay so you didn’t watch today story Lynn now you’re gonna call Mike Rabel mid when he’s had uh six seasons as a coach he won nine or more games in four of them including an AFC Championship Game appearance Ryan tanah Hill as his quarterback and went into Foxboro and beat Tom Brady and Bill bich in their last ever game together why Rael you’re gonna call him mid and you’re gonna say Rex who I love by the way but hasn’t coached in the NFL since 2016 is the only hope and you have to run it back with 41-year-old Aaron Rogers who has not played well today he’s played like a bottom third in the league quarterback this year and you’re going to tell us you didn’t watch thank you for the support but this meets the criteria of going to the hole so we will see you in 24 hours now look what you’ve done no more protection from the as Mania had to pull you out of the chat and cast you down with the sodomites some time in here we’ll feel like you’ve been run over by the lane train you understand me you catch my drift give them another 24 hours to think about it Rex is not their only hope he’s an option Rex is not their only hope Mike Rabel is going to get interviewed by basically probably every team with an opening the only opening Rex is going to interview for a head coaching opening for is the Chets and I like Rex I’m not trying to belittle Rex I actually think Rex should interview I want to hear who his staff would be I want to hear what he’ have to say but come on man big fell wres in a ride average 4.8 yards per attempt today pathetic I I mean at least he tried to throw the ball downfield a little bit more but they couldn’t complete anything he missed Garrett Wilson Early in this game he looked good though he was mobile was out of the pocket but then the accuracy just not there now and it’s just like come on JJ’s up next hey JJ hello my friends um so as I Wasing JJ can you call back your internet is horrendous I got you give me one minute I’ll call right back all right we’ll go right back to you ladies and gentlemen while we wait for JJ let’s say hello to the great David too who has a brand new emoji that we added on the show yesterday what’s up David hi Jake um I didn’t see the game I I tuned in to Conor long can you hear me I hear you David I just said it was ironic that you didn’t see the game yeah we well we don’t get it we don’t I can’t get it down here so uh I I’m just kind of keeping tabs on the score with my phone and everything but anyway Connor long did a a bang up job explaining everything and boy it it you know what a difference a day makes uh you know discipline and halftime adjustments and um you know as far as as the coaching I’ve really kind of changed not Chang my mind because they were top candidates but I was thinking monin you know but uh I’m I’m on board with you I think brael which I don’t know that we’re going to get him and then Flor is uh you know a disciplinary and tough cracker you know I I think that’s that’s that’s what they need um and as far as uh Aaron Rogers I’m throwing in the white towel buddy you know I’m going to the game next week but uh I just feel I feel as time is coming to an end and and I don’t want to just go to the game just to see Aaron Rogers and all that kind of stuff the only thing is Conor long said uh you know put Tyrod Taylor in and and I think you had mentioned it I I don’t see the point if Travis Jordan you know was healthy you know then they could have a young buck come in and try to get the experience you know so uh you know that that’s the way I feel about that but I I it’s funny cuz you know you know I’m I’m an Oldtimer and uh I think about uh back to Joe Amoth and uh you know the last year he had he had played for the Rams and it was a Monday night football game I guess it was Howard coell and it was just I mean I I guess the word is sad to see him play because he was just a broken down old football player he’s not what he was unfortunately and there’s just no way to justify bringing him back with what his cap hit would be for the future for just bringing him back for one more year as the bridge I mean this team’s three and9 they can find someone else who could put up similar numbers yes sir I totally agree with you and and you know and but the scary thing is like you said I mean they have so much talent on a team but if you don’t have a quarterback you don’t have a team I mean that that if you don’t have a coach you don’t have a team you know you could you could get away with winning without an elite quarterback he probably can’t win a championship without a damn good quarterback but you could be competitive next year with competent quarterback playing really good coaching yes yes sir coaching is yeah um oh my God so uh yeah uh I don’t know here we here we go again same old jets are you ready to be an eyewitness in person when you see the Jets next week yes sir I’ll tell you what uh my eyes feeling better all the time and uh I uh I’m no matter what I’m I am pumped up you know for the experience I love my Jets and and and Jake I will be rooting for them to win I I just you know I just that that’s just me I mean no matter what Nick shine wrote in that it feels like you’re looking into his soul I feel like you’re connecting with his fan base you’re really seeing in there that’s funny my my optometrist had said that he said you know he he’s a character and he had said when I look into the people’s eyes I I can I can look into their soul I see it well Nick shine is a terrific person you know all your people they’re they’re like family you know David you’re the man all right I’m sure I’ll talk to you this week but I I I I hope the Jets could win next Sunday with you in the building uh thank you sir ladies and gentlemen the great David T checking in uh for those who missed it on the show the other day we added the David themed Emoji shout out to Patrick Star Dan the Jet fan checks in can’t wait to go to Miami next week fun fact the Jets are 0 and 11 in our last 11 games in Florida last time we won his final game as a head coach for us Gino was the quarterback I think that stat is Right Dan I think we looked this up last year when you said it that’s pathetic they have back-to-back games coming up in Florida Miami and Jacksonville Blake says loved your question about head coaching experience the tanom on ESPN New York Thank You Blake for those who missed it Mike tanom came on with me and Ty Butler when we filled in for the Michael show on Friday so I posted the interview we didn’t get a lot from tabom but we got just enough where I think if you’re a Jet fan it’s worth your time checking that out on my channel hit the like button if you’re just tuning in if you’re one of the 800 people still watching live God bless you for caring about a 39 football team it’s only the die hards that are locked in 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did on Friday I will be in for Rick D petro and Dave Rothenberg on ESPN New York the last week of December and the first week of January so I’m doing two weeks in morning drive at the end of this month I’m also going to be on ESPN New York as I have been every Sunday this year through the remainder of the the season I’m on 4 to8 this upcoming week so Jets Dolphins Sunday game will end at four or 4: I’ll be on 4 to8 the postgame show is gonna start at 88 PM next week on YouTube but my immediate thoughts on the game will be right after on the radio uh hit the like button subscribe all that luppy writes in with a super chat Jake you’re the man thanks for getting us through another disappointing year ly I appreciate the support For Better or Worse I’ll be talking about this team every day twice a day year round that’s the decision I made I thought it’d be a good one this year because we’d have a winning team but we don’t but we do have the best fans in sports I’ve never been more convinced of that ladies and gentlemen more of your calls we’ll see if we can get JJ’s internet to function ladies and Gentlemen The Moment of Truth hello JJ you know it’s funny you just went to me and I don’t even know how because I wasn’t even logged in and I like just logged in and I saw that you like had me on the screen I was like how’s that so that was a phantom JJ um so I I just got home like maybe like 30 minutes ago from this game I was out there sitting in the freezing cold and while I was sitting there I thought was there traffic why did you just get home now uh because I didn’t want to drive because I refused to pay for the parking pass this late in the season uh so yeah so I took a public transportation and then it took forever for my New Jersey Transit bus to get here get me here but anyways um while I’m sitting there in in the stadium right watching Aaron Rogers uh potentially lead us to a game willing Drive which he hasn’t done all season I thought to myself how many times has Aaron Rogers had the ball in his hands with the game on the line to end the game and he does absolutely nothing for us and it’s the decision making that’s the problem I mean I think it was the third the third down before the fourth down he had Devonte wide open all he had to do was just throw it to him he takes a sack the play before that on second down he throws it to Isaiah Davis you have Devonte Adams on the field you have Garrett Wilson on the field and you throw it to Isaiah Davis and the fact that Isaiah Davis was on the field on that second down in the red zone to end the game that made no sense to me any either but I said this a couple weeks ago and I’m glad that you guys are all starting to see it Aaron Rogers is washed and I’m gonna double down on this point Aaron roders ruined the team this year because if it wasn’t for Aaron Rogers we wouldn’t have kept Salah we could have went out there and got Dan Quinn uh Mike V we could have gotten uh um one of the the hard ball what’s which one is that Jim or is that John that’s when you say he ruined the team you’re acting as if it was intentional unfortunately he got old but they built the team around him coming in and being the guy it was too late to pull the plug after you only got four plays of it last year so what did you want them to do when I the reason I say he ruined the team is because from and I could be wrong on this right but from the the speculations and the things and the Rumblings was he didn’t get along with laflor right he he wasn’t he wasn’t happy with laflor and prior to that now you told me that you heard otherwise but prior to that it seemed like he didn’t vouch for uh McCarthy to keep his job um he was glad that McCarthy left because he wanted a new new head coach and then the new head coach that they got he didn’t like him laflor is flourishing after Rogers has gone and Mike McCarthy say what you want but he’s done a pretty good job in Dallas after after Rogers after departing from Rogers Rogers is just let’s be honest with you he he’s too much of a a pradon Diva and and I I thought this before and I still think it now I mean there’s so many moves that this team made to cater to him and it’s like he he gets his way time after time everyone always oh well get get him Devonte and he’ll win some more games it didn’t work Alan lazard’s on the team that didn’t work Tim Bo last year Nate being on the team of course of course nothing’s worked but that’s because he’s old if you had the Aaron Rogers of old and not old Aaron Rodgers things would be different but he’s no longer capable to overcome the issues that exist on this team and also he he didn’t have a bad relationship with lefl I think Aaron’s big thing is he just thinks he’s just as smart as he’s head coaches which he’s not well I mean he was when he was winning back-to-back MVPs like he’s not that guy he won the backto back MVPs under lafl in laf flor’s offense an offense that he didn’t even want to run yeah but they they still ran a lot of concepts with the West Coast offense like Hackett was still the OC there it was it was it it was it was definitely more it was definitely more the Flur than the hacket offense whatever you want to call this West Coast offense but it was like a it was like a mix it was the two of them together and it worked they had success but he was a lot better then and he because he wasn’t you know 40 coming off in Achilles and I think we’ll never know but I truly do think him getting hurt last year I think it it it it caused a lot of issues we’re seeing now like I don’t know if he’d be this bad if he had never gotten hurt last year I think the Achilles injury did a lot to what he was is a player and he looks like a 41y old now and it is what it is he’s not they tried it they went all in they were bad before he got here they very easily could be bad without him I don’t know if he ruined the jet we weren’t this we weren’t this bad before he got here we were not this bad what do you mean they were seven and 10 exactly and now what are we right now we’re three and nine we weren’t this bad last year I’m sorry but we weren’t this bad with incompetent quarterback play we weren’t as bad and let me tell you something so are you GNA try and tell me that Aaron Rogers has played better than what Zach Wilson and Tim Bole were last year last year’s defense was a lot better last year’s kicker didn’t miss it’s not the same team when it’s counted the Most Aaron Rogers has had the ball in his hand to end pretty much all of these games and get us a win in pretty much all of these games and he just hasn’t done it I agree but he’s been better than the quarterbacks last year but the team this year is not as good as last year you can’t tell me this defense is anywhere close to what they were last year same thing with the kicking game okay La uh in the beginning of the Season me and you had an argument you probably you probably will remember this where I kept saying we’re putting our faith in a 40-year-old quarterback coming off of two back-to-back injury Seasons right and and everybody on this channel was all like oh but it’s Aaron Rogers he he the last time we seen him on the field he was an MVP and and his last season even when he was hurt when he played would be better than anything the Jets has blah blah blah all this stuff all that ended up doing was making us keep Nathaniel Hackett who’s trash making us keep Robert Salah who is trash and it ruined the team for this year because if we would have did what we were supposed to do and fire our head coach before the season started and brought in a competent head coach with a competent head coach you don’t see the [ __ ] that you you would be seeing I agree JJ if you’re if if you want to sit here and say you were right they should have fired Sal at the end of last year you’re 100% right about that obviously if s was only gonna get five games this year he shouldn’t have been the head coach this year what I’m trying to say to you is the idea that you’re saying Rogers ruined the team they had no choice what ruined the team was dra Zack Wilson second overall and missing on him and still having a good enough roster to win seven games in 2022 so what was the alternative unfortunately he got hurt he got hurt four plays in last year and that injury guaranteed jobs for people that quite frankly turned out didn’t deserve to have jobs and it all blew up this year all right let me ask you a question right serious serious question would you agree or disagree that Eli Manning and Ben rothberger both have better careers or or or more desirable careers than Aaron Rogers career no if if you’re a football player with and if and theyve talk CJ St talked about this if you’re a football player what would you rather have would you rather rather be Aaron Rogers would you rather have two Super Bowls and be beloved by your city by all your teammates but like by one this has nothing to do with the Jets and two I would rather be Aaron Rogers over Eli Manning any day the week it does have something to do with the Jets because you know why it has something to do with the Jets the Jets handed Aaron Rogers to keys to the franchise and he’s old JJ if they were getting 39-year-old Aaron Rogers in Green Bay when he was winning back his second of back-to-back MVPs no one would care that they brought in Allen Lazard and Devonte Adams for him in the playoffs in the playoffs Aaron you always go too far JJ you have a point saying they should have fired Robert Sal last year you had a point and then you always take it way too far now you’re bringing up Big Ben and Eli which has nothing to do with the 2024 state of the New York Jets it does not he is he is old he is played well but he’s not the only reason why they’re three and N is my point if they had this version of Aaron Rogers on last year’s team they would have made the playoffs unfortunately this year’s team is not last year’s team they got worse on defense they got worse on special teams and this offense which we thought was going to be led by a great running game it just has not materialized the way we thought it would all I’m saying is in those two MVP Seasons that Aaron Rogers had when he got into the playoffs and he played San Francisco he choked he choked and he always chokes in the playoffs right Ching the playoffs that’s why he only has one Super Bowl ring that’s so not fair you know you know how many points per game the Packers defense allowed at NFC championship games with Aaron roggers tell me please let me pull it up because I had all these stats when we were talking about this going into the year 35 points per game Aaron Rogers career playoff numbers 45 touchdowns 13 interceptions career pass rating over a 100 um like come on man and Al why if you only have one Super Bowl then I can’t answer that you’d have to talk you could you’d have to talk to Packers fans about the blunders they had on defense or special teams and sure there’s been games he hasn’t played well either but JJ I’m tired of of I don’t need to have this argument with you Aaron Rogers won’t be a jet after five more games he’s gonna go into the Hall of Fame but there’s some people in this fan base who want Aaron Rogers here next year I’m not saying he’s not I think that was before today I I know my stance was could we see how the next six look could we see if he got healthy over the B we just stop I I just don’t like the fact that we acted like uh Aaron Rogers coming to here was the equivalent of Tom Brady going to why why why couldn’t it be Tom Brady had six rings when he was going and everyone universally says Tom Brady’s the reason they have all those Rings Aaron Rogers only had one ring okay so he’s not the greatest quarterback of all time he’s still in the conversation of being one of the five best ever you don’t hand him the keys to the franchise what did you want them to do JJ they had I wanted them to fire hack it that’s what I wanted them to do okay okay but you’re talking about like it was a mistake to Bringing Rogers in the first place what was the alternative the mistake wasn’t to bring in Rogers the mistake was to hand him the keys and make him basically the GM of the team and we get him every single thing that he needs and it’s still not good enough for us to win I get it JJ but I don’t think it would have made a difference because he’s he’s he’s unfortunately old he’s not the same guy if you had Matt lefur calling the plays right now I don’t know if Aaron Rogers would have been that much better than what we’ve seen he’s missing throws to guys who are open that’s not on the play calling it’s it’s not even that he’s missing uh throws it’s that he doesn’t even want to run the plays that they’re giving him that’s why we keep getting all these stupid JJ if he hits Garrett Wilson today they’re up 287 and they win the game what do you mean it’s not that he’s missing throws he is missing I’m saying on top of him missing throws he doesn’t even want to go with the plays that they’re called he keeps trying to check into the right play first of all why didn’t we call timeout on the fourth down before the game ended why didn’t we call timeout we had two timeouts why didn’t we do that because this team is poorly coached I don’t know the answer everything the reason it’s poorly coach is because Aaron Rogers forced us to keep Robert Salah he didn’t force them he gave them a vote of confidence because I think he probably felt bad as a human being that this team went seven and 10 after they went all in to bring him here and he played four games left snaps last year he probably said look I came here for these guys I don’t think it’s right that they should be fired and Woody listened when in hindsight yeah you were right they should have fired Robert Sal in the staff last year but it’s too late it is what it is and we should probably play can we play Tyrod or Jordan well we can’t play Jordan Travis Jordan Travis is not healthy no he’s not healthy can we play Tyrod because I’m tired of seeing Aaron Rogers with the ball in his hand what does that do okay you want to play Tyrod fine play Tyrod it doesn’t matter because you know what it does because now we can see if we can keep Tyrod as a bridge quarterback for next year or if we should move on and get a different what you don’t want to keep Tyrod for next year no I’m not going to sit here and evaluate Tyrod Taylor on five games down the stretch that mean nothing and we know what Tyrod Taylor is what you do next year what would you like to do at quarterback I I will let a new GM decide what they should do I think they should look into bringing in a different Bridge quarterback I would have Jordan Travis and I would consider drafting someone in the first round if not in the first round on day two of the draft no we got to draft somebody he’s under contract next year you don’t need to do anything we have to draft we have to draft somebody next year yes and we are going to keep Jordan Travis yes but in terms of who’s going to be our our week one starter next year so so you think if Tyrod Taylor plays and plays in five games here he’s gonna show you enough where you’re gonna say yep he’s the guy for next year you know what Tyrod Taylor is yeah Tyrod Taylor is a journeyman quarterback who can play five games this year and I can see what he can give me for next year and then we can start the season and then move as the season progresses move on to whoever our rookie is call it just you talk yourself from a good call to a bad call how bad you had it how is Tyrod you had you had a good call at the beginning how is Ty want to debate Eli vers Rogers Rogers career saying he has bad playoff numbers when he doesn’t and now you want to talk about playing look if you want to play Tyrod Taylor JJ go for it man I’m happy for you I hope he I hope he I hope he shouts you out after a big win on Sunday it doesn’t doesn’t matter last thing about the Eli and Ben rensberger thing Aaron Rogers is not beloved by Green Bay they kicked him out of the they kicked him out and they’re happy that he’s gone they are laughing at us they got two first they got a first round pick for him and they are so we look like idiots where’s bmac bmac call in and gloat because your team your Green Bay Packers they he loves Rogers it’s not all them and by the way they didn’t like bar either when he left and now they love the guy because time heels when Aaron Rogers goes into the Hall of Fame as a packer he’s going to get standing Elation when they retire as number who got the better end of the the Rogers to the Jets straight us or the Packers I JJ obviously the Green Bay Packers did it hasn’t worked but that doesn’t mean it was the wrong idea to bring them in I mean like like JJ if you were running the Jets the team would be in the same exact spot who would you have signed after 2022 Derek Carr let me tell you what I would have done if I was the GM of the Jets let us know your master plan my master plan is I would have f fired Joe Douglas and fired Robert Salah two years ago after 2022 after Joe Douglas is coming off a draft where he drafted the offensive and defensive rookie of the year hit on Bree Hall and hit on Jermaine Johnson and won seven games you would have fired that guy after that draft after a seven to 10 season that makes sense yes I would have because what did he do the year before that and what did he do after that absolutely nothing ah ladies and gentlemen the king of hindsight JJ Bravo incredible yep let’s fire the executive after he drafts the offensive and defensive rookie of the year see a couple things can be true the Aaron Rogers move has not worked obviously but it doesn’t mean it was the wrong move it was the right move it didn’t work the biggest issue was drafting Zack Wilson and missing on Zack Wilson that put them in the spot where they had to be all in and desperate to get Aaron roggers to come here they had no alternative so JJ would have fired Douglas and Salah after salah’s second year great then who’s the head coach at GM what would they have done at quarterback I mean people are just ridiculous man hindsight is 2020 I mean that JJ you you you always just talk yourself into losing phone calls you had it you had it he made no points you would not take Eli’s career over Aaron Rodgers you rather be a four-time MVP and a Super Bowl MVP and considered one of the five greatest quarterbacks of all time than Eli who there’s a debate even after winning two Super Bowls is he even a Hall of Famer sorry you would and also not that money is everything go look at career earnings for Aaron roggers no players made more in NFL history than Aaron Rogers and then look at Eli Manning’s career earnings good God I mean what are you talking about man C bull writes in Jake can you put yourself in the shadow realm I cannot but I can put you there cuz you’re a [ __ ] into the shadow realm you go did you say Zach Wilson is special I think he had a special night but I don’t think he’s special you got to look at this dude and oh he is garbage I can’t man Joe the jet says JJ is the most punchable person on this channel I like JJ he’s a great guy he’s just out of his mind with his takes Nick shine writes and unless JJ is a time machine these P takes being rehashed make zero sense and aren’t a fun watch yeah way to way to tell us you would have fired Joe dougas and Robert Salah after 2022 because that that really was what we were talking about then I mean give me a break dude Blake writes in what a high we were all on at 1 am after that Patriots W appreciate all the work you do brother we can’t draft a quarterback with a brand new GM next year I mean you can draft a quarterback with a brand new GM though that’s the only thing bake if that GM likes the guy you don’t force it though well see where they pick picking right now there might be a quarterback that’s available I mean we just it’s unreal man more calls right now the Big Fella’s next hey big fell Hey Jake um couple things with JJ I haven’t heard anybody any teammates of his of Rogers really like say that he was a bad guy or anything no they all like him he just it’s he’s just not what he was like he’s 41 like it happens we all we we thought he’d be better we also thought the team around him would be better it didn’t work you know it was the right it was the right move it just the result hasn’t been what we wanted that’s it there was no like I I challenge anyone just like I just did the JJ and he came up with a nonsensical answer that everyone in the chat is laughing him at for oh i’ fir Douglas and solah then what like yeah in 20122 like come on man like I get it we’re all pissed off but like the the logic behind bringing in was correct unfortunately he got hurt four plays in we’ll never know how that impacted his you know his timeline up still potentially being a competent quarterback yeah unfortunately he left MVP Rogers in that Darkness cave you know but uh getting back to that trade also that we had for Rogers um I would rather have Will McDonald than Lucas vaness you know I mean will McDonald’s tur into a damn good player double digit sacks I mean he’s probably gonna be the Pro Bowl this year yeah and uh did Rogers really blame like the wind today I I heard something about him blaming the wind I mean he had he he I mean they asked him about the mow to Garrett he referenced the wi and is like it doesn’t matter I gotta hit that I mean he bro he played in Green Bay yeah like come on he’s not he’s not the same guy we all see it like yeah you know it’s crazy it’s crazy like I’m not gonna get mad about it like it didn’t work like unfortunately he’s not going to be here next year neither is the GM who’s already been fired or the coach who’s already been fired it’s going to be a brand new regime coming in and you pray they get it right or Nothing Else Matters and so and there’s one guy who hasn’t been who hasn’t been getting like a lot of uh lot of criticism who should be is Brent Boer Jesus Christ his special teams has been awful this year yep I mean for God sake IR Charles is a penalty machine he should have actually um he I don’t know why he let the ball go in the end zone today how many extra points are we and kicks are we gonna have blocked this year I mean it’s crazy and the coverage is terrible did it take to use this guy in kick returns till today like why it take till December to finally bringing this guy in and give him an opportunity I mean it’s it’s ridiculous I mean he came in with a good reputation of like you know he was a special teams Guru he’s been ass he’s been like it’s been bad and uh you know that’s just one thing but like I told you on the radio show we do have a lot of talent here that’s young we do need guidance with the players though I don’t know who that’s going to be but disciplinarian is what we need you know to really you know set the ship straight you know sort of like sort of like Parcels now getting back to like being a disappointing season this season’s disappointing and the only one that’s comparable to me is the one where Vinnie went down because we were all ready yeah you know we were all ready to you know go for it and then I mean it wasn’t as like I don’t know Vinnie going down as like Rogers going down last year but this year is just I don’t know it’s just one thing after another they just keep finding ways to lose and uh hasn’t been good but well maybe they can find five more ways to lose and they’re in the top two and they could either trade out and get a hall or they could take a quarterback I’m telling you man I I like Jackson Dart I really do my son’s watching right now he’s in Tennessee he knows I jacks he’s second round second round hopefully you know I want nothing to do with milro man nothing I like mil I wouldn’t play him right away though but like if it developed I think he’s got a very high ceiling he reminds me of my favorite quarterback from Tennesse he’s better than Milton ah dude dude he’s a little bit better he’s a little bit better he’s not that much better bro he’s way better he’s not come on now he’s really not I’m telling you man he uh he can run God bless he can run and he’s powerful and everything but he we call him overthrow milro man he is not he’s not he’s raw but I I I I I like his intangibles too he could have left when everyone else left when Sav was gone he stayed he’s he’s a good leader that’s true that’s true but he does have the best wide receiver in the country so you know but uh you know like I like I said on the show uh our our situation is not like some you know it’s not as bad as what everybody thinks it is you know we have talent there and a new coach coming in to mold these players you know would be enticing for the right guy and you know we got to look forward to that unfortunately we have to look forward to the draft now so uh you know it’s another wait and see year but whatever man tomorrow’s Rogers birthday tomorrow’s tomorrow’s my birthday are you turning 41 as well I’m turning 52 man um look good and uh um Addison’s birthday’s today so happy birthday Addie yeah happy birthday Addison so lot of stuff going on my man but anyway have a good night I’ll I’ll continue listening and uh go Jets man go Jets the big fella checking in more calls Marco is next hey Marco hey what’s going on Jake what’s up Marco how are you I’m good so this my first time on here so I’ve been a Jets fan all my life I’m from Memphis Tennessee like born and raised just been a huge Jets fan unlucky you pick the Jets I was young and and I seen I seen Vin Testa vered play and they was uh playing a game on TV and I was like oh they cool and my favorite color was green I was like look I’m gonna go with the jist and I just been a fan ever since then so but this season but this season here like we started with solid everything just came to an N5 solid so it’s just like if you go go with him if you go go with if you didn’t know you didn’t like him the last season you you gotta stay with what you had you gotta stay you gotta stand on business and I think all of this is honestly on Woody Johnson this what I feel like because I mean you had solid yeah we were two I think was two and three but it’s just still you can’t sit up here and change what everybody has been in good moral standing with Salah as the head coach and then just all of a sudden you just gonna take the guy who been through all they done been all preseason with all these three years with and then all of a sudden you just cut them and expect oh oh everybody’s gonna be cool with that yeah that’s a smart move and bring in alrick who has never coached and you got him really gota carry two job because he was the defensive coordinator you just think he going to switch he never did a head coach before and then in your mind you going to think hey oh this would be a good Spar that’s fire the guy we’ve been all pre-season workouts with and everything to make to make a whole switch in the in the beginning of the Season like you can’t you can’t sit up here this not like a this is not like a a game of of this not a game it’s just really like I mean Che take that back it is a game but you can’t sit up here and do that because like when you do that and you see what it did with the defense the defense has not been been the same since Salah has left this team it has been it has been disgraceful and so you get that and you get that and you get with Aaron Aaron Rogers being there and him not doing the preseason workouts preseason workouts with the team so it’s like yeah the team respect Rogers that had nothing to do with it he missed two days of mini camp in June without pads that the re the reality is that had no impact on anything the defense being as bad as they’ve been post solah there’s definitely something to that though for sure I don’t know if it would have mattered big picture because this team ultimately was not going to win with him as the head coach I mean they were two and three when they fired him coming off brutal back-to-back losses against Denver at home and then a no- show in the first half against the Vikings down 17 zip right but do you think I mean as much as we were starting off bad do you think we would have been this bad if we would have kept Salah I don’t think we would I don’t I don’t think so but I do think though Marco had they lost to Buffalo he might have been fired anyway like like I they they would have had they were two and four I think he probably would have fired solah then so it Happ you gotta let the season you have to let the season go because Ste two and four you still got a chance like if you saying if you saying that right now I mean he should go ahead and fire rck I mean really I mean you’re not fire the the inter term it’s over 3 put position he doing worse than solid so it’s like it’s like you can’t sit up and [ __ ] it’s like stand on business Let the Season go let it go and be like okay they didn’t do a good job because you kept them on the season so you got to put your 100% Faith up in them and if it didn’t work out hey you gave them a 100% full chance to make this work but now it’s just worse it’s worser than Zack than Zach Wilson like I felt like even when we got Rogers them couple of years ago I felt like Zack Wilson should have been gone or third string I feel like we should have kept Mike White because I think Aaron roders and mik I think Mike White would have did a better job than Zack Wilson because at that time we had an offensive line so when Aaron Rogers would have got hurt and we would have had Mike White oh he would have did a way better job we probably would have made a playoffs with Mike White because when we didn’t have an offensive line and Mike White was taking all them hits we didn’t have a line so imagine what Mike White could have did especially when he was groomed to be a quarterback he knew the system he knew the players the players had a good morale with him it would have been it would have been way much better than Zack Wiz but that’s the past that is what happened but right now he should have kept Salah I think uh until the end of the season seeing what we could have did but I think we will still be in actual playoff talks honestly and we have I I appreciate the call I don’t think so Sol was 20 and 36 as a coach the revision is history about the GU is astonishing to me he hired this staff that’s in over their head right now the defense wouldn’t be this bad I agree but you think they were going to win anything with Salah like Aaron Rogers would still be 41 years old and looking like a 41 year old Greg zerlin still would have missed a lot of kicks the defensive line still would have been a problem it’d be better I agree but come on also bringing up Mike White Mike White unfortunately couldn’t stay healthy either I mean people don’t want to hear it but the season was doomed before it began JJ writes in Jake do a poll did Rogers ruin this team no because people are gonna I I I don’t I don’t want to I don’t want to do a poll did Rogers ruin this team I don’t know JJ they were seven- 10 before he got here they were seven- 10 last year and they’re gonna be worse this year which honestly might end up being a good thing because you got everyone fired in a top three pick we’ll see did he ruined this team no I don’t think he ruined this team I think unfortunately he was the best option at the time they brought him in and then he got hurt four plays in Last year which is no one’s fault and he’s not the same guy he was but what were the Alternatives GM JJ says he would have fired Joe Douglas and Robert Salah after 2022 because that makes a lot of sense the Jets wouldn’t be clowned for that you fire the guy who just drafted the offensive and defensive rookie of the year four games in Year One for Salah they won seven without a quarterback in year two so they did exactly what the Bucks did with Brady they won seven games were a quarterback away the difference is Tampa had a real Coach and Bruce arens and also Rogers got hurt four plays in like that that had a lot to do with where we are I I I still believe this if he played most of the games last year and they underachieved Mike Rael might be the coach right now and you could have maybe salvaged this year uh this season maybe Jim Harbaugh would consider this job if you gave him full control if you blew it up after last year we’ll never know nyj wres in I’m with Jake when it comes to the Rogers era what if he never went down that first game with that defense special teams on the way Garrett and Bree who are playing that year what if we’ll never know but you can’t tell me this version of Rogers who now has what 19 touchdowns and eight interceptions you put them on last year’s jet team they’re not 10 wins and making the playoffs they won seven last year with the 32nd ranked offense in the league last year Greg’s zline didn’t miss a kick last year the Jets defensively allowed less than 20 points per game I mean this year the Jets allowed jacobe brassette to stick it to them with the game on the line they allowed Anthony Richardson to stick it to them with the game on the line they let Gino go down the field and beat him today like last year’s defense doesn’t allow that to happen but no one cares no one outside of us Jet fans cares it’s not same old Jets but the idea that Aaron ruined the team have you been paying attention to what happened before Aaron this team has not made the playoffs since 2010 it’s not like they were you know the Kanas City Chiefs and then they brought in Rogers and now they’re bad me come on more of your calls right now and then we’re going to start to wind down this show we’re two hours in I already did 9 minutes of radio I’m losing my mind Beyond Broadway is up next hello Beyond Broadway Hey Jake how are you what’s up Bob Bob is the author of uh the book is actually called Beyond Broadway right about the 6 Broadway Joe there you go you know you said something the other day I was I was listening in on the afternoon and uh I was half asleep and half awake but you said something that was very true once you see the Jets win the Super Bowl the rest of your life will be fine and I saw them win the Super Bowl in 1969 so nothing that I see now shocks me didn’t see the first half today I was at a party checked in a couple of times for people who were watching and I saw it was 14 to nothing and they went oh no come on you gotta lose this game we we don’t want to win this game you’re roting for losses I can’t roote against them I it you know what I I just hope Beyond hope every year that they’ll have somebody who knows what they’re doing is are drafting players because the organizations that are out there the Pittsburghs uh and and philadelphias and the like seem to have the touch they seem to be able to identify the guys who they also have coaching too though like you like that that’s part like the the Jets have drafted some pretty good players the last couple years they missed they have they have they have obviously he had belas had that one fantastic year that except for maybe 65 uh was the greatest draft the Jets have ever had because in 65 they got namoth Verlin bigs uh Jim Hudson George sour Jr and they and buffalo drafted Al Atkinson who was a star linebacker with the Jets later they had nowhere to play him so they put him on waivers in the Jets I don’t know if you can count name it though he was a signing no but he had to be drafted they had to make a trade to get him the jet had the second pick in the draft that year Houston had the first and um as I point out in my book because I talk to people about it different then because they they they they had to convince him to play in the AFL over the that too that too first they had to get his rights and then they had to convince him um and and so houon really wanted to sign him in fact uh Houston’s coach Sammy B who had been the Titans coach before was telling uh the owner of the of uh of the uh of the Houston the own Bud Adams this guy’s going to be great but nth talked to Adams and said I want to play in New York Chicago or La I’m really not interested in playing anywhere else and then came the money and uh namoth as he has told the story many many times uh it got offered $100,000 or something by the Cardinals who had drafted him and nameth agent came back and said well we’re thinking more like 200,000 as a as a multi-year contract and he wants a fancy sports car and he wants his his brother and and uncle whatever to get jobs with the franchise and the Cardinals went oh my God oh my God and at that point a lot of people don’t know it but uh the Cardinals talked to the New York Giants and the giant said okay you negotiate for us and if you can make the deal we’ll sign nameth after he get he agrees to sign with you so it actually ended up being the Jets and the Giants who are competing for him namoth found out about it before he signed with the Jets and that was one of the last reasons why he did decide to sign with the Jets because he thought that he wasn’t dealing straight up with people they could find the next Joe neth in this year’s draft how about that no and I I did I disagree with you about milro whenever I see milro I see a guy’s got a great arm who scatter on armed and and and I’ve also read you read about all these guys so who really knows that he’s not a great decision maker doesn’t read defenses that well ah what they said about Lamar Jackson interesting Yeah well yeah exactly and you know I have a friend who went to Louisville who watches all the Louisville games and he was telling me the year that Lamar Jackson got drafted he’s gonna go way down in the draft but that kid can really play and obviously he doesn’t have a great arm but he has great leadership skills and he knows what he’s doing I had a couple of notes Here I wanted to throw you away first of all about the special teams coach Boer uh it seems to me year to year and I think you you understand this well your special teams are only as good as the guys that you have on your squad and it’s a rotation because every year rookies come in and they have to show that they can play really good special teams uh in order to uh you know make the team now obviously the kicking is B abysmal I mean that’s just they they’ve they haven’t been this bad again since since it was the Titans the Titans had a defensive lineman kicking field goals because they had nobody else but but but I think the coverage on the downfield hasn’t been that great either on the punts and that’s because a lot of the rookies you know that are there who may not be that Adept at that the other thing you keep talking about vyel and I have a friend who’s a huge uh Tennessee Titan fan I’m going to talk to him about Vel but you know Keith Carter was his offensive line coach for multiple years yeah yeah he got fired when Vel after Vel got fired and Keith Carter’s reputation in Tennessee was just terrible no I think he got fired the year before Vel got fired because Salah hired you you might well he’s been with the Jets what for two years he Vel hasn’t coach since the 2023 season so right years he’s been so he going jets for two years and when did Vel get fired from Tennessee around that same time no last year so that’s what I’m saying oh last year okay okay well Keith Carter is I I’ve been surprised at how decent the offensive line has been this year I guess Talent will win out in the end because his coaching is not supposed to be anything special um you were talking to tanon Bam and I listened to that earlier this afternoon is the concept which is the normal concept that you’re going to hire a GM first and then the GM is going to select the coach but in this case it’s going to be team 33 plus the GM that they recommend who will hire the coach is that how you would understand it well I I think they get a GM in place and then the coach will come in or g g they’ll get a GM in place who obviously will have a major say but I think the 33rd te will have a recommendation on candidat they’ll potentially speak to I think it’s unclear I don’t think we know when I asked tabon that question basically was open-ended let’s say they really want Mike Rael he’s their guy they they want to go after there’s no scenario where they talk with Mike Vel and they say hey who are some GM candidates you think you’d work well with and they interview those guys I don’t think we know but that like until they get it right none of this changes let’s say hello to rob the Jet fan hello Rob Hey Jake um disgusting disgusting loss again of course as usual what else is new Rob what else is new buddy it’s what we do baby it’s what we do but I mean um yeah I think you’re right like you know if um ton bomb and Spielman were good with Vel there might be an exception that they would hire or possibly hire Vel first and then they would go to Vel and say hey you know what give me three or four GMS here that you’re interested in or your top two you know he’s that good of a coach that you have to laugh at that exception a a a a head coach like that that commands respect and has been very successful in the league you make those exceptions and you don’t have to hire the necessarily the GM first I think this is the one time or maybe you know obviously another really good head coach that you would make the exception so I I agree with you there but as far as Peter Castro I love you buddy but please buddy stop please stop stop with the I I know you’re not gonna agree with me with this Jake but I don’t want Flores I I really don’t he had too much trouble and issues with people I don’t think he’s a bad coach it’s not that I think he’s a bad coach but I think he had a lot of issues with people in the locker room especially obviously the quarterback he was really nasty to him and stuff I I’m not a fan of his and worse than that Jake worse than that is please I don’t want Justin Fields I don’t want to sit there for a year Bridge quarterback and it’s Justin field because you know what let’s be honest Pittsburgh okay he was four and two when he left Pittsburgh and Russell Wilson came in okay not a bad record but we know that Tomlin finds ways to win he makes you look good now you got Russell Wilson they are 5- one since Russell Wilson took over they beat Cincinnati 44-38 which on his best day would probably two games combined let’s be honest Justin Fields would have never put up numbers like 29 38 76% 414 yards three touchdowns one interception is what Russell everyone thought a Russell Williams was 100% done cooked right everyone thought this and look at the way he’s playing with Tomlin I mean I’m like it’s remarkable how Tomlin coaching matters yeah coaching matters but I disagree with you on Flores I mean the guy the guy’s last two years in Miami he he had a winning season nine and eight 10 and six and what has Tua done since he puts up great stats and then they play any good team regular season numbers yeah regular season numbers so like I I mean like okay he was he was hard on Tua maybe he’s learned from that too the way he also had a year under Mike Tomlin he’s been one of the best defensive coordinators in the league the last two years plus his experience his experience okay I don’t mind that so if you can’t get Mike Rael who I know is your number one guy and you don’t want Brian Flores who would who else would be a coach that You’ actually want them I told you I want Vel I told you this already right but you say you can’t get Mike outside of Vel who would I want um I would take a chance on monin I think I would take a chance on him Jake uh GR bruden I’m kind of 50-50 with I’m a little scared that he’s been out of the league for a little while um when he came back the second time around he didn’t look great like you know like everyone was saying like you know he looked a little suspect so I’m a little scared with Gruden I I will be honest and I definitely don’t want Sexy Rexy please um so now as far as like Bridge quarterbacks I’d be I’d be more inclined for someone like Andy Dalton someone like that you know I really don’t want to see jamus Winston because he throws too many picks and I don’t want like I said I don’t want Justin Fields um another thing um it’s figures because you know what if we if we finish in the top four Jake we’re gonna have a chance to get one of these top quarterbacks I I tell you I’m not excited about this this quarterback cre not cam Ward or or Dion Sun I I I don’t like these guys at all I I I I agree with the big men the big fell excuse me um I would take I would throw a dart on Jackson Dart from Old Miss he’s a gunslinger 26 touchdowns five interceptions I mean I would take a shot at him and and you could probably get him in the second round you probably would not have to waste a first round pick on him take this guy in the second round or high up in the late end of the first and then you know what get a a d lineman um there’s a lot of good D lineman coming out you know the way uh well who was that guy you was speaking to it doesn’t seem like the draft is too uh too thick with players this year it looks like it’s going to be like you know a couple of heavy on each uh line it doesn’t look like it’s a great um draft this year so I would definitely definitely probably go for Jackson Dart in the second round go for D linman and obviously add another wide receiver because I don’t think Devonte is gonna be around let’s be honest we got a lot of time we got a lot of time till then I don’t know about the draft yet I don’t know where they’re picking I don’t know who the top quarterbacks are nor do I really want to talk about it right now I got I got to be honest December 1st I’m I I I can’t do draft strategy right now there’s a quarterback a new GM likes I’m always on board with taking one because you got to hit on one and your best chance to do it is still in the first round despite all the people who say take one or take two or three go through the top quarterbacks in the league right now I would say 80 we’ll probably do this at some point in the offseason I would say at least 80% of the best quarterbacks in the league were taken in the first round off the top of my head momes Allen burrow Lamar all first round quarterbacks Herbert first round quarterback you know you have some exceptions Jaylen Herz was a a second rounder Dak Prescott was a fourth rounder Kur Kurt Cousins was a fourth rounder I’m just thinking of starters now but most of the top quarterbacks were first round picks Kyler Murray was the first overall pick Jaden Daniels Caleb Williams first round picks like that’s that’s typically how it goes so you don’t force it if there’s someone you don’t like but I think another option for the Jets could be all right maybe they don’t love someone in the top 10 can they do what the Ravens did when they took Lamar and trade back into round one so you get the fifth year option on a guy we’ll see luppy writes in Jake all I know about the drafts I’ll be watching your show and calling in again it’s your it’s your tradition drunk luppy during the draft stream there’s nothing like it folks God jet it out Gruden’s career was made off the Tony duny made roster I think you got to give guden a little more credit for that but he hasn’t been a successful head coach in a long time long time ly says chances tabom recommends himself he’s already said he doesn’t want the job but that’d be funny going full Dick Cheney on the Jets more of your calls ladies and gentlemen Neil is up next hey Neil Neil why can’t I hear you you hear me now hold on let’s adjust your mic all right go ahead hear me yes you hear me now yes are you going all David on us get a little closer there we go um very disappointed pointed were you there today I I sold my tickets for over a $100 a piece really yeah I put them on Ticket Master I got a $100 a piece you know don’t forget my seats are great seats but I’m sure a uh devoted Seattle fan pic paid $400 for my seats I took my grand kids to see Santa and I got back before the game started because you know I will never miss snap that’s my Kudo and uh couple of comments you know Aaron roders we tried you know like you said there were no options and he’s on the back end of his career I mean you know I mean I’m sure if he asked Devonte Adams what his thoughts are on Aaron Rogers in secret he’d probably say you know he’s not the same quarterback as he was when he played with me repay I mean it’s pretty safe to say even and you know we got a true look at him today I thought with the movement he clearly had movement he clearly was healthy and he moved around the pocket well even ran a little bit you know but when it came down to it he just didn’t have the confidence in in the in the staying you know to let things develop you know when he overthrew Garrett in the end zone you know he rushed he always seems a little bit rushed he doesn’t seem confident and his ability to you know do that but this looked like the Keystone cops out there today I mean the defense the penalties the you know the way they lose games it’s like you know my heart can’t take it much more I gotta tell you something I was like I was in disbelief I’m not that I don’t expect it but even when you see it with the breaks we got early in the game and everything happening and it’s just it’s just disheartening it really really is but I have a thought you know what our quarterback room should look like you know I really don’t want to pick a draft a quarterback in this draft I just don’t you know I don’t see it sounds like there’s really nobody out there that’s really you know a readymade guy but you know if you get let’s think about this a second we got Adrien Gonzalez on practice squad who look really good in preseason runz he’s not playing he’s not playing hang on let me let me let me just say he runs and throws the ball and he did look very good in preseason and you got Tyrod Taylor who also could run who basically has a run pass option type of scenario you know looking at what we need to do in the quarterback position and I’d rather take a guy like Justin Fields who could run with the the ball throws short passes I know his long ball hey look he was two and one when Pittsburgh took him out right what was his the record when they he actually better than that he was four and two if you told me Justin Fields Jordan Travis and a rookies the quarterback room next year yeah I’m open I’m open to it I I I I honestly I would I I would try and think a little bigger than that but we’ll see you know I just think that you know we have to we have to customize a quarterback room that is going to be able to come into the game and be seamless into what our game plan is so if we have one running quarterback and he goes down you have to put another running quarterback in to keep the offensive scheme the similar way that it is how do we know there be a running offense next year though we don’t know who the heck coaches I get it but what we have to do is keep a consistency is what I’m saying if we have an offensive G uh coordinator that puts a scheme together it has to be a consistent quarterback that comes in and backs up and we have Tyrod in house so maybe to get somebody that is more of a a running quarterback I mean look at Drake may but tyron’s a pocket passer he’s not a runner he’s athletic he can move a little bit but he’s he’s a guy who’s gonna stand in the pocket and throw down field no I look at this is what I hope you know I look at Denver and I look at what a good head coach does and what he does and how he manages Drake May who you know started out out n you know dinking and dunking and they’re really a defensive team and that’s how they they geared themselves to win ball games and they’re actually doing it and they’re in the mix I don’t say they’re going to win a Super Bowl but they’re certainly doing whatever they need to do they’re sound fundamentally and their players look ready to play every week one of the main things that I think is a problem for us is our guys are not in shape I mean when you have player multiple players go down in a game with cramps that means they’re not physically fit enough to withstand an entire game of playing I mean and then when you don’t run down a 300 pound lineman for a 99 yard run and I didn’t see anybody in the picture except for allar R Vera Tucker running him down who can’t catch him did you see anybody in that play within 20 yards of the of of Leonard Williams trying to tackle him I didn’t no I mean look it to be fair though it’s kind of a weird play right where like the entire offense was shaded the other way and then you know that that that happens like the only the the only time we saw someone like on a similar play chased down the defender was Devonte against Pittsburgh in his first game right but now I’ll give you an example you know Quinton Williams made a couple plays in the beginning of the game and then he came out of the game because he was like out of breath like he had to come back to the sideline and or they rotate him which makes no sense you know Max Crosby by the way play 100% of the snaps for the Raiders on Black Friday 100% 100% why are our best players not on the field more makes no like I understood the rotation when they had a bunch of guys that had made sense to do it and it was working you couldn’t argue with the results they were a top three defense two years in a row this year why why why isn’t reick McDonald quinnon why aren’t they out there almost every play at this point I don’t need to watch Solomon Thomas or Javon kinlaw or Michael Clemens or any of these guys who won’t be here next year right not to mention the fact that you know we’re still doing the same foran Rush four light guys rushing giving Gino time to diagnose the field and not having any fear or getting hit and we that happened in a lot of plays today and that gave him that extra time to you know because you can’t cover good receivers for more than three seconds or four seconds regardless of how good you are and I didn’t see anything you know where they blitzed there was no blitzing there was no Corner Blitz there was no creativity on the defensive side of the ball as well and that I think had a lot to do with the I mean we couldn’t make any big plays any Splash plays and that’s part of the reasoning behind the defense and again this is another game where we don’t force any turnovers we just don’t get turnovers we don’t Smack the ball out we did it on special teams and that’s a player who hasn’t even played that smack the ball out of the guy’s arm on the kickoff every player should be trying to knock the ball out when they make a tackle you know the I think of Quincy Williams they asked him what’s your uh best play and he talked running over the quarterback last week well you know that was a great play with Kyle Murray but the ball was on the ground and he’s running by the guy celebrating and doing a dance and the meantime the ball was on the ground and they’re not rallying to the ball or trying to you know create a turnover these are some of the things that just makes no sense to me from the standpoint of you know their their ability to create and rally they did rally around the ball today more than I saw in a lot of previous games they rallied around the ball Will McDonald great game two sacks he played the run a little bit better um but you know again they’re they’re it’s just a Comon of of of mistakes and it’s all coaching I mean let’s face it I mean penalties eight of them in the fourth quarter four on the game-winning drive by Seattle like it’s like good well coached teams don’t fall apart the Jets have had leads in the fourth quarter and and four of their losses this year like I I I had a stat I bookmarked to say earlier and I forgot I bookmarked it uh the Jets in their losses this year they have six onore losses this season by an average of three .17 points with better coaching they do definitely have a couple more wins right now there’s no doubt like and that’s with below average Quarterback play for most of this year a defense that certainly has not been close to what we thought they were going to be they’ve been bad since Sal has been fired let’s call for what it is obviously the kicking game alone has cost him at least one to two games so it’s just it’s so frustrating but it’s why I do think it can be turned around and they could be competitive next year with the right coaching staff I don’t know who that coach is but that guy’s out there you gotta find them look we have the roster is still a good roster it just needs to be better Coach I’ll give you an example of today with all with Y brick the quote my friend Peter uh there’s a minute left in the half and we have all three of our timeouts and Seattle’s faced with a third and six and we let the clock run out come on man that’s not that that shows that you have no confidence in your defense you know you you have a chance there to get some momentum back to end the end the half and instead we let them dictate the way the half ended and we had three timeouts in our pocket you should never have three timeouts in your pocket when you stop a team back at the I think they were at the 24 yard line or something Jake they would have had the ball at like their own 45 yard line and they didn’t use any of the timeouts they took all three timeouts into the locker room yeah but that but before that is is what I’m saying they ate a minute up just waiting for that third down play where we could have called the timeout and had a minute and 46 not that’s what I’m saying right we could have had over a minute with two timeouts and we had the ball when we got it on the 40 yard line or 45 whatever there’s a chance at least to pick up a field goal have a little momentum going into the half and who the hell knows maybe get three points maybe throw a deep ball and get a penalty something but to go in with that kind of attitude you know it just was there’s no there’s confidence with him last week then he’s not confident this week I mean he just you when you don’t have confidence in your team and your defense in particular you really put yourself at a huge disadvantage and that was one of the biggest coaching blunders there and then you add all the penalties and everything else on top of it it was like something that it just was a new way to lose here I mean Seattle did everything possible possible to allow us to run up the score in that game and again one more touchdown the Garett catch the non you know pick six for 90 yards and you know we get up three scores on them and this te soft NE I mean they like the Rogers Mis Q with Garrett and then the pick was the turning point but that shouldn’t be the reason you collapse and like they didn’t score again after that they they should have been up 287 we all watched it but that doesn’t justify an entire half of football where you don’t score any points that’s insane and I want to give JJ a lot of credit look guy’s trash on JJ but you know you gotta understand something the guy went to the game today yeah no I love JJ I just think he always goes too far with the revisionist history holder he’s not a you know armchair quarterback here the guy goes to the game going to a game in the freezing ass cold today you know here’s a here’s something I got texted to me you know you know who that guy is look look oh the the Jet Plane guy yes look at him get up look this poor bastard he’s been going to games longer than me he shakes his head has to get up get into the car and fight traffic to get all the way home on a holiday weekend you know Jesus Christ we really deserve so much better than what we get here it’s not even funny and like nine nine straight losing Seasons they can’t even they can’t even have a winning season let alone make the playoffs and Gator you know Gator like you know Gator was a true is a Rogers guy look we were all Rogers guys I mean this guy got chance when he walked out in practice and just watching him you know was exciting for us so it was an exciting chapter um again you know I don’t know what options we’ll even have at this point um but oh another thing that really was puzzling there were at least three throws that Rogers made where there were two receiv receivers in the same area Right One play he was trying to throw to Devonte Adams and and Bree Hall ran inside and try and missed the ball he was right in the same line of sight as Devonte Adams on a touchdown throw I mean these are and then the other one with uh you know Gibson tackling Garrett Wilson on the sideline when he this is just like those are things that never ever ever should happen especially in the 12th game of the season you’re having blunders on where guys should be so one thing you gotta one thing we have to think about here is Rogers expects guys to be in certain positions and expects guys to be where they’re supposed to be how many of the bad throws and incompletions does Rogers have not as a result of his poor throwing but as a result of guys not being where they’re supposed to be well you know that is a question that we really you know what I’m it’s too late it’s too late you know he he had he had the opportunity they tried it you got to move on it’s too late we’ll see what happens like I said you know I’m always here I’m never going to be you know you’ll never catch me pessimistic we onward and upward and that’s it you know we’re we’re we’re the we’re the you know we’re the uh you know we’re the team that’s got to take the mountain with a few people We’re not gonna we’re not we don’t have an army here like Pittsburgh and all these other teams we have a little club and that little Club we’re like The Little Engine That Could we have to get there eventually but we’re not going to do it with a with a completed staff and coaching and general manager right now we don’t have that can we get it yeah I have fate and you know everybody at track is Woody Johnson let’s be real here the guy wants to win you know if I was the owner of the team and I’m I’m sure other guys would agree with me two and three you follow fire solah right Chef Saturday came in inter him I would have put I would have put Rex in there let Al State D DC put Rex in to create a spark now that would have at least created a spark in the team Jake don’t you agree oh yeah you know what time it is you tried to throw him away look this man’s coming back sometimes he’s fat or thin that waistband makes him slim he’s got the fix you need they call him Sexy Rexy I’m here to crack and skulls I’ll turn these Boys to Men this team is stacked with Pros hire me won’t break your purse I’m here to break the curse they call me Sexy Rexy [ __ ] all you naysayers oh sexy oh he SE sexy he sex sexy [Music] Neil thank you a record 700 points were made got a couple people left two and a half hours a post game we got a fun one for you right now ladies and gentlemen joining us live on their way back up to Vermont is hi everybody this is Bob from Vermont I am Bob of course hi Jake how you doing Bobby how you guys doing out there Bobby how’s the game oh uh we have fun all our friends have fun the jet suck hey can I do it can I do something for my friend Addison today yeah happy birthday Addy I bet Addison yesterday all day I I oh I got excited when I met him tell you it was awesome yesterday all can I happy birthday sing it yeah oh yeah we goob first ever inperson happy birthday performance Bobby Bobby happy birthday to you happy birthday to you happy birthday toison happy birthday to you and I hope you had a great day I sure did Bobby how’s that Jake tremendous Bob well done thank you I love it guess what guess what Jak they got me the gar cart and wheelchair again oh yeah oh at least the jet did something right today no no Nate and Nick and other people help me uh we met Hank G too you know Hank G I know Hank G sure yeah we met him live did you have a time at the tailgate what did you have a good time at the tailgate oh well we ate at we we did we had Bagels B we had Bagel a mine got cold because too much and we had some IA and some two screw drivers and we have fun and Nate’s driving great I tell you if you ever want to go to a trip call Nate he’ll wow the guy the guy who 11 Bobby Midnight Express will arrive 11:45 Bobby midnight back in Vermont all right yeah we got to get the car back by 2 am so I’m literally shoving him out the door and then we’re out so Race Against Time Jake well Addis happy birthday Nate safe driving and Bobby I’m glad you had a phenomenal time unfortunately the Jets couldn’t get a win but that’s okay because experience it all 20 things next time okay okay I love Neil though you I love NE have a great day [Music] guys now that looks like a car ride unlike any other let me say I want everyone to know Nate parentheses Nate rented a car that he picked up at 1:00 in the morning today 1: am today drove it up to Vermont this morning got to Bobby’s place at 5 in the morning picked up Bobby drove him to MetLife and is now driving him back up to Vermont that’s how incredible of a human being Nate and Addison are for doing that drive after a brutal loss too Sarah writes in imagine being in that car I know Bobby’s imagining you in that car Sarah that’s for sure that is for sure shout out to Nate though what a great guy giving Bobby an awesome experience ladies and gentlemen before we wrap we’ll take more of your calls we have a very special guest who’s on the line right now originally I thought he would be making the trip up to Vermont with the two people who just joined us but he actually had some car problems this morning so we couldn’t join him welcome my friends it’s a shine time shine time it’s time to talk about the Jets don’t you know it’s Shine Time shine time it’s shine time time to be with my friends hey have you seen my toe hello Nick I I I texted you and you tell me you got two callers left and you didn’t tell me it was Neil who was taking every possible Jets point that could be made and then we get a mobile birthday song by Bobby how respectfully my friend how the [ __ ] do you expect me to follow that like I’m handcuffed well tell tell tell us about the uh about the game day experience today what was it like tremendous uh J Graves came up we uh we traveled up we picked up Rob V and Jay Quest and then we picked up Hank g at the hotel we got over to Gotham tailgate early and then you know Addison Clancy Bobby Nate um weed rolled up Tom a showed up uh funny story so bobb’s never seen Tom A’s face right it’s something that you and I both know he’s like Tom I want to see your face I’ve never seen your face we come up with last night on the Discord at like 3 in the morning talking to uh Clancy Nate and Addison as they’re driving up to Vermont I was like we gotta do this we gotta pretend Tom is somebody else and then it ends up Tom walks up and like introduces himself to me and says Nick oh I I know your show I watch your show and uh I don’t know if you know me like oh who are you he goes oh I’m South End Auto Detailing and anyone who knows how much Bobby hates South oh southest don’t get out of here you you know he’s not allowed here get rid of him Bobby’s going nuts we’re all dying and and finally he just goes Bob Bobby it’s it’s Tom Ace oh I like you you’re a good guy you could say Bobby we propped him up in the chair and just like last time I had a table there he’s holding Court he’s in the chair uh breaking news the orange chair is in Orange what color Bobby’s camera at home is so bad it’s a salmon colored chair it’s not Orange it’s not even close to Orange wow that this we were all stunned we’re like what what is this this is not the chair they’re like no that is Bobby color blind he could have corrected us at any point of the last year but we’ve all seen it it looks orange with with the camera I guess the camera and the computer it just it did not or we’re all color blind but it it’s not an orange chair it’s a salmon color chair I’ll I’ll send you the picture we we were our minds were blown by it but down he’s got a drink in his hand and a blunt in his mouth within 30 seconds of being in the chair and then the Ia they just stuck off I believe it it ventured over to him at some point uh but there there was a lot of that going around and uh the day was great the people are better and uh you know you can’t put a price tag on on all the as you know all the friendships relationships and and connections that that you make in this community and I say it all the time if this team was ever as good as this fan base we would never lose a game you know the fact that they drove up to Vermont and left at one in the morning and they’re bringing him back up today to help him get down here to be a part of Addison’s birthday H H how do you quantify that in in life you know what I mean how do you put a price tag on on the decent human beings and the love that we have for one another in this community I you can’t it’s the best fan base in sports I’ve said it and I’ve never been more sure of it because you know two hours and 45 minutes into a postgame show talking about a three and9 football team and there’s still you know a thousand people tuned in it’s insane you know what it was cool that for those Hank G Addison you know Bobby coming down that we had those three touchdowns we had that excitement with the Crow and then it just went away and at least they got that enjoyment right even though we get to enjoy the last two and a half quarters they got that enjoyment of of seeing some quality football for just a little moment in time yeah I mean it is what it is right like the the losses don’t sting as much as they normally do this time of year because you’ve already accepted what this season is it’s a failed season and in the long run maybe get this loss will lead to a great player that they get that they wouldn’t have been able to get if they didn’t if they won today you never know yeah uh I owe you a membership because as you know I support you with with uh both of my uh YouTube accounts oh here it is right here shine everybody yesterday so I I ow you one David Sadowski just Reed the gifted I congratulations David welcome Welcome to The Greatest Show on Earth um yeah it’s uh it’s wild it’s wild like three and N with Aaron Rogers starting every game we would have all died laughing you would have sent people to the shadow realm time and time again if anyone came on here and said three and nine Rogers is playing every game you would have banned them from the channel we all would haveed that person and said you are the worst takes you are the worst football person we’ve ever heard of of our entire life and here we are I just insane like once again if I would have told a Jet fan before the year hey Rogers would not miss a single snap did the injury this year he would have 19 touchdowns eight interceptions and the Jets would have at this point they would have played 12 games would you say the record is closer to nine and three or three and nine and I think everyone even if you hate the Jets probably said well obviously nine and three they’re not GNA be three and nine with this talent and somehow they’re three and N it’s it’s it’s a nightmare and when when you get a chance to watch the whole 22 anybody please pay attention to this on the Leonard Williams interception I gave more effort and Bobby gave more effort on trying to go track him down than Garrett Wilson did Garrett Wilson when he scored was still at the 15 yard line just walking to the sideline now it was the other side of the field I get it but you watch game other teams give that effort you watch DK Mecha Chase somebody down a couple years ago when there was no chance right he he divide the odds and did it because because he cared watching Garrett walk off the field that’s disheartening to see uh Rogers quality of play missing guys wide open he had Concklin and Garrett open to the left never looked there threw it right to Williams he’s he’s done he’s done and and we keep saying you know you and I and others keep saying well if he plays well the next couple weeks it’s not happening no and really it wasn’t even the it was really this game today right because it’s like if he’s not going to be healthy in this game today and look good against a mediocre defense off a bu at home facing a team that’s coming cross country like I’m not putting any stock into like a great game against the Jaguars now like who you know what I mean like you really needed the seat today and he moved a little better right he was mobile he was throwing a block on the Corley trick play but it didn’t matter he still the accuracy wasn’t there and that’s the last thing I thought he would ever not have yeah they rolled him out a couple times they had him on the Move looked good it looked refreshing right like okay finally what they’re saying we’re see see it match not we had a good week of practice but no every time he’s in the pocket you feel like oh crap he’s going to get leveled they got to move the pocket to get him confident to throw the ball uh they did do a couple things I’ve been asking for they did air it out downfield several times so they did open it up a little bit uh but I don’t know man it’s it’s tough to watch as somebody who’s been such a huge fan of Rogers for so long it’s really really tough to watch this you know and there was a tweet during the game the first two drives we had two touchdowns 107 yards or the first two scoring drives we had 107 yards we had 108 yards like up until that final drive after that like there was nothing they they figured out what we were doing and they stopped it the penalties self-inflicted wounds lining up in the neutral zone uh Adams and Wilson moving at the same time like before it’s not like it’s so sloppy it’s so disgusting on so many levels and it’s not one guy to blame Will McDonald 10 sacks great good job for you how many times you gonna line up in the neutral zone right it’s it’s insane you’re looking in at the ball why can’t you see it I I I don’t get it man but like how does that even happen this late in the year like how is there not like a a a culture that doesn’t allow that to happen like guys guys are held accountable for their mistakes and they correct it they don’t just keep making the same mistakes again and again and again yeah uh did you touch on what I texted you about earlier uh I I have not hit on the fireman anded stuff because I’m waiting to talk to Ed and get a little more info but they didn’t show him on the Jumbotron at all correct they didn’t he uh he was there at his perch ready to go getting the crowd up looks up at the board doesn’t see himself sees the other two steep down something had to have happened man they didn’t shown the entire game once not once and I wonder I I look I’m not uh saying this you because it’s like my show or anything but you know Ed Ed comes on with me once a week he’s been very critical of the Jets he was very critical two weeks ago about Woody I wonder if that had something to do with it I do wonder that I I I’ll say something if you are as much of a dieh hard fan as you say you are it should be about cheering on the team and not stepping down because the camera is not on you now that’s me that’s my opinion if you care that much you shouldn’t have to look at the board not see yourself and say okay I’m not doing this at all you should do it for the fans you should do it for the team you should do it for the love of cheering on the team that’s my take not yours I’m not putting that out there with you but it was disheartening to see like he wasn’t chanting defense with his helmet on third down no attempts to get the crowd up until late in the game like the first three quarters him though I get it but like you want him to be energetic and cheering and all that it’s like the defensive chance he does that’s like to get the in Unice in the crowd to do defense I I get it but as somebody who cheers his head off when the camera is nowhere near me and doesn’t know I exist it’s disheartening to see someone who’s supposed to be leading the crowd only care about the camera and not show up when it’s off of them well but he’s not leading the he’s not leading the crowd they’re not showing him there’s still a lot of people that keep their eyes on him everyone in that Stadium knows where he is everyone in that Stadium knows where that helmet is and everyone knows what he does everyone does he did it for years at the old stadium with no video boards everyone knows I’m gonna give the guy a break he’s probably shell shock that you know for 35 years he’s leading the champ then they they give him no notice and then just cut him out and I see that side of it too but I just I I I don’t know I guess when when sometimes you expect you put people on such a perch that it’s a little disheartening when when they don’t live up to that you know what I mean that that’s someone who’s been our lead fan right yeah well the jet the Jets knifed him in the back if they just didn’t give him any notice and didn’t put him on I mean Ed will come on with us this week we’ll get his we’ll get his perspective on it yeah and and I feel bad like we live in a world now where everyone gets to go share their opinions we do it here right and to have him be blackballed because he gave his opinion about the team if that is what it is which it probably is right like if Woody Johnson is going say Tony Adams you can’t play he’s probably saying oh you said something I don’t like because we know he’s got his social media minions out there following every little thing that that’s what you do to to Fan like I’m not uh praising or saying Woody’s right with this he’s wrong come on man like let your fans be fans if you’re three and nine with a best roster you’ve ever had expect some people to be pissed off about it we have the right as fans to be hurt to be angry to be frustrated to want better with the amount of money people pay for the seats that Ed’s at he has a right to say this isn’t right things need to improve things need to get better what do you expect all of your little Johnson and Johnson minions to to bow down and say oh whaty things are going good it’s everyone else’s fault you’re the best it’s not how the world works man it’s a results driven business your results have been pissed poor you should be able to hear those words and not strike down Vengeance at everybody who says that yeah I mean if the reason why fireman Ed is not shown at all today is because he was critical of the owner or the team give me a break Ed pays for his tickets like every other fan he has every right to be critical just like you do on your channel me or any Jet fan out there who talking about the team with their friends 100% And it’s it’s it’s just it’s bad man it’s bad because you know what it’s another week where now this will become a major headline and as always it’s the Jets nonsense and drama off the field being spoken about it’s the will there be a quarterback change uh what’s Roger’s comment now about uh I’m only one of 11 out there there’s there’s so much Division and it’s only G to get worse the more you lose and and the more you see the end of the road coming it’s just it’s going to get disgusting these next couple weeks it’s going to be five games left so yeah I mean look you you wonder is it going to be a game where they completely quit has happened yet like they came out they played today they wer they didn’t play smart but they played hard today and no one could question the effort but I mean five five games to go there’s still a lot that could happen that will be embarrassing to talk about but they lose they lose it is what it is five games to go let’s see where they they end up but Bobby’s awesome to hang out with Bobby midnight that never thought would have on my bucket list that after the game and the whole entire Upper Deck emptied out I would be pushing a wheelchair into the bathroom to help Bobby get into the handicap stall so no matter what happened today Jake we we got that moment in time where where does that rank on the list of things you’ve accomplished in your life I mean Bobby got in the stall and out better than I expected I didn’t have to go into the stall to help him at all so that that’s a big win for me today but uh it’s just when you hang out with Bobby you experience a moment in time and you experience an outer body experience at times like you just like you’re looking at the situation like this is just incredible this is wild like where’s this guy been my whole life he’s so much fun he he even when he’s mad he brings a smile to everyone’s face even when he gets pissed off he brightens up everyone around talking to and we had him on the aisle and he had trouble getting up and down so we’re like we’re lifting him under his arms like we’re picking up his jacket from behind to stand him up so people can get in and out of the row and he’s holding Court like trying you know when someone goes into his chat and it’s a new name and he like stops the show to talk to that one person that’s what he’s doing with everybody who walked up the section by him or walked into his row b Bobby let them go man we’re we’re holding you up here like a crane can you let them get to their goddamn seat so we can put you back down oh yeah I just wanted to say hello we know Bob we know fast food reviews it was a combination that’s Chef Kevin Chef Kevin you gotta change your YouTube name everyone got to know you’re Chef Kevin but I love it uh it was the combination how to uh yeah it was both it was a long day he needed he needed to uh go it’s a long car ride back so you gota you got to clear all the tracks before ride back to Vermont makes sense makes sense Nick great call to Rapid I appreciate you man love you buddy have a good one ladies and gentlemen Nick shine check out his Channel Proud NJ fan Nick’s going live I think at 900 pm tonight so you can watch his show from where Jets talk Barney Super Chat Bree it was my fault Aaron it was Wendy there’s 11 other players that’s Zack Wilson level bleep I’m done with Rogers luppy gifted a channel membership earlier luppy your membership went to KT thank you Lippy appreciate you Mr meoo says go miners I believe you mean ners but yes I mean we got a Snow Game to watch at least right now that’s interesting I could really care less the bills are going to win the division whether they do it tonight or they do it next week or whenever brutal brutal wild show thank you to all who 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