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SNY MLB Insider Andy Martino and former Mets GM Jim Duquette react to Juan Soto agreeing to a 15-year, $765 million deal with …
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we knew this was going to be the biggest Story down at the winter meetings and that is where our Andy Martino and Jim duette are down in Dallas so uh Andy let’s start with you uh what are you hearing about the last 24 hours maybe even 12 hours as to how uh Steve Cohen and the Mets got this deal done with Juan stto I’ll tell you that story in a moment amen but first I want to zoom all the way back out just to describe this I think for what it is and just taking a breath and reminding everyone that this is a semi moment in the history of New York baseball this is I mean there’ve been New York baseball teams for like 150 years or so Jim yeah and this is one of those few moments granted something that’s happened off the field it’s not a championship or anything like that but will be remembered forever last night the Mets were a joke on satday Night Live they were joking oh the sort will go to the Mets to help out a charitable cause well this is no joke this is Steve Cohen fulfilling the promise to Mets fans and New York Baseball fans that came with him when he bought this team in 2020 so just want to note what a big deal this is and and to answer your question aan uh the Mets were dead in the water on this at about 300 p.m. today this was going nowhere uh momentum was with the Yankees and uh it picked up late and it picked up quick I think if you’d asked anybody in the know uh Jim we had a little dinner at the bar about what 6 o’ or so something like that about two and a half three hours when we sat down the Yankees were winning this thing when we got up the Mets were so that that’s how quickly this came together Jim let me ask you because you obviously know Scott Boris very well from dealing with him and now you’ve gotten an idea of how Steve Cohen operates as an owner uh what motivation for Steve Cohen was there in the last three hours to get this done as far as maybe you know as Andy said he had put himself out there and he had reached a point of no return He was going to get wan stto to Queens yeah I I think that that’s the thing that stands out the most when you’re negotiating with Scott Boris you have this type of player I mean there’s an ebb and flow to this and this has been going on now for a couple days I mean Andy and I have talked about this a lot and’s been reporting this and you know knowing Scott and the his overall style he is the master negotiator and he’ll make you feel the a days where you have no chance or you think you’re out of this and I’m sure there are several times there that the Mets didn’t think they had a chance and I think really industrywide most people thought he was going to be Yankee even if it was close and you look at the final numbers here and you know these numbers are very close the only real difference is in the average annual value the total dollar amounts within $5 million but they were able not only to give the most money but also to convince Juan stto to leave the team that he was with this past year and and really get him to buy into a vision long term that the Mets are going to be competitive year in and year out let me follow up with you there because obviously the Yankees were all in this was not a case of them bowing out early we heard the reports of the 700 $60 million for 16 years do you think it just reached the point where they knew that no matter what their next offer was Steve Cohen was going to match it I mean it’s hard to know for sure you know I think with this one I I think that you know the prevailing thought even you know leaving the World Series was the me the Yankees didn’t have to be the highest bidder in this that if it was close because of the relationship and because of having Aaron judge and being a part of that organization and all the people that are there behind the scenes that he had built up a relationship with that he wasn’t going to go anywhere you know and so you know I think that this was one of those that we’re going to find out more details later on what was it that convinced him about the Mets offer this certainly isn’t you know taking the highest dollar I mean it is it’s $5 million more but there had to be more than that yeah to convince him to come to the New York Mets and I think that is the sales pitch and the kind of the staying with it philosophy that Steve Cohen and Dave Sterns had to do in this to convince him to come over there I really felt like they were a clear Underdog in this even with more money they were never the favorite I don’t care what you read I don’t care what was said the Yankees were always the favorite in this the Mets came from behind like I said in a in the space of a few hours and I can speak a little bit to to what Jim was talking about too in terms of what convinced Soto because I can tell you through sources what what sto’s concerns were it was not just that he was comfortable with the Yankees was not just that that was a great experience for him going to the World Series playing with judge playing for Aaron Boone hell Stein rener all positives for stto uh he was concerned about the current construction of the Met lineup he didn’t know fairly or unfairly if there’d be enough protection for him in that lineup I mean he would be leaving Aaron judge now he is of course leaving Aaron judge and you’re telling him well Mark ventos is coming along as a star Pete Alonzo might come back well you look over at the Bronx and you have Aaron judge so all these things were reasons why it was an uphill climb for the Mets but one thing uh that Soto articulated to David Sterns and Steve Cohen through this process was that he he did believe in Cohen he did believe that Cohen was going to be a good owner uh is already a good owner was building something good so uh that was something uh that’s not a knock on hell steinbrener that’s just something where I think Steve Cohen the salesman and not just Steve Cohen the checkbook really helped close this deal here late yeah certainly had 765 million reasons to believe in Steve Cohen as well but obviously that’s the commitment that Steve Cohen has shown in building this met franchise but uh Andy what’s been the reaction around baseball this report you know on Saturday that the Yankees and Mets were willing to go 710 730 million now it ends up at 765 million for 15 years what what’s the reaction been in the Baseball World the last 24 36 hours at what this price tag eventually and ultimately became for Juan stto well look the price tag I I don’t think there’s any uh and Jim is a former GM and probably speak to this even more directly than I can I don’t think there’s anybody that would uh value any player at that level uh and what that does to your rock roster flexibility going forward and things like that and potentially plugging up your DH spot uh for a decade or so down the line I mean these are things you’re asking me for the reaction around baseball that’s the reaction around baseball probably it’s the kind of situation where if you’re if you’re if you’re in one of those jobs like Jim has been you’re probably thinking gez I don’t know I love this player but but that causes some Financial uh flexibility issues for me too so probably the reaction to the numbers aim in was along those lines like gez but this is about more than that and this is about more than pure rationality sort of I was talking about at the beginning this is about the Mets uh paying a premium to make a statement here I I think just like when they lost yoshinobu Yamamoto last year I think there’s a piece of the Yankee organization breathing a little bit of a sigh of relief that they have more money to spread around now in different ways uh but for the Mets it’s a statement that goes beyond uh what people would react to the money in baseball circles well Jim let me follow you follow up with what Andy mentioned obviously this is $765 million over 15 years for one player allbe it a future Hall of Famer and an unbelievable player coming off a great year now is I’m going to make you David Sterns here how much pressure is there now to fortify the rest of the roster to make sure that it’s worth it and that you build a World Series caliber team well you’re you’re not um you’re not buying a a big shiny expensive car like this if you can’t afford the oil change and the tire rotations and everything else there you know I hate to I don’t want to make that light of you know the next guys that are coming because those are going to be significant ads but you know the bottom line is is you have a guy that is in the middle of the lineup and you need to surround him with good talent they need there’s obvious need there at first base uh we know that it could be you know and also we see in The Outfield but they also need pitching starting pitching and Bullpen help and you know I think if you look at that from David Stern’s perspective I mean that’s where he does his best all you’ve spent all this money and you thank Steve Cohen for the the money and the big expenditure and you want to make sure that there’s enough left to to finish this team off and I think that you know he did his best work this past year with the starting rotation I think you you started to see some of that with the Holmes and Montas signing there’s another starter out there I start to wonder about Sean manay and Nathan naldi and guys like that but also going to need some Bullpen pieces too along with the first baseman and I don’t think there’s any hesitation at this point that the Mets are going to be pursuing that here in the in the real let’s say near future Jim I want to go back to you with something and Andy started about right from the talked about right from the start here because you’ve been a part of this franchise you know what it’s like
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