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As Trade Rumors continue to heat up, Jake Fischer has revealed the coveted big man targets for all teams, including the New York Knicks, who have prolonged interest in Robert Williams of the Portland Trail Blazers, Daniel Theis of the Pelicans, and Atlanta’s Larry Nance Jr, as Jericho Sims hits the trade block. Chris Gallagher, Matt Long, and Dariel Concha discuss this and everything else in Knicks Digest Happy Hour ep. 12!
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[Music] perfect [Music] perfect [Music] y [Music] New York Knicks rumors are heating up as Jericho Sims continues to be mentioned in the trademarket This Time by none other than NBA Insider Jake fiser and along with that we have seen Bleacher Report highlight multiple trade candidates that fit for the Knick’s tough financial situation for them to acquire to add some insurance behind Mitchell Robinson and we’re going to break that down we’re going to break down what the comments are saying to us and much much more so guys what’s up welcome back to Nick’s digest it’s Chris mat and Darielle here and we’re going to jump right into this as we always do I hope you guys did see us go out there or see me go out there and drop my latest video it’s doing well right now got to plug my own YouTube channel while I start this but what’s up everybody let’s do this thing all right so Jake fiser has revealed that well the New York Knicks want to trade Jericho Sims he’s fallen out of favor with Tom Tibido and when a player falls out of favor with Tom Tibido after being in tibo’s favor it marks the end of their time with the New York Knicks this happened with Quinton Grimes this happened with Evan fornier this happened with kemell Walker this has happened in the past and there’s a pretty common denominator between those three guys they were not playing up to the standards the Knicks required of them so tibs got upset benched them and then from there they are no Moss for the New York Knicks we’re going to see Jericho Sims most likely get get moved in some sort of trade so the Knicks can free up $2 million and go out and use it on another player somewhere else potentially a Moses Brown potentially just to have more trade flexibility we’re going to see what the Knicks do here I’m very excited to see how we doing guys what up chilling chilling living thriving and ready to get into it Maddie what’s good boy what’s good dariio what’s up Chris Chris why how could Jericho Sims ever fall out out of favor with tips he played so well facts the goat uh the goat no longer will R be on the New York Knicks he will get traded this season I could see precious sucha going with him I actually mentioned a away for the Knicks to trade prous sucha in a devious plan to get the Nicks to have Dante D venz overturned but if you guys want to see that you’re gonna have to just go watch the video but look let’s break down some New York Nick stuff guys because Jericho Sims obviously he’s not enticing trade candidate there’s not a lot you can get for him the Knicks also cannot acquire more money taking in than they could send out in a trade so they have to trade for someone less than2 million which is why I believe it’ll be the ever exciting trade of Jericho Sims for a protected second round pick but on top of that we’re seeing guys if you saw if you guys who are watching this saw the thumbnail because I know Matt and darel didn’t look at it um no I saw it it was I saw it I saw it to and somebody in Atlanta hul Jersey forgot who definit definitely Sims in the in the Atlanta Hawks jersey in the Jericho Jersey no Larry Nance was in a a Knicks jersey Nick Jersey that’s how trades work one guy goes to the other team and then the other guy comes to the Knicks Jericho Sims for MVP facts Nick funny guy over there all right Chris what kind of team would be interested in trading for Jericho Sims um your mom’s uh no it it would be a team like the Memphis Grizzlies is just a team that needs more Rim protection and a more Veteran Center though I don’t think they would go for Jericho Sims I’ll be honest I think the team that’s going to trade for Jericho Sims is just going to be surprising and I don’t have a follow-up team after saying that I just think it’s going to be like wow I did not expect Jericho Sims to end up there like the Milwaukee Bucks or something are going to trade for Jericho Sims it’s going to be something that no one really saw coming because Jericho is an interesting Feller so so Jericho Jericho hasn’t been good enough to play on the Knicks for Meaningful minutes you think he’s going to be traded with the intention for that team to play him meaningful minutes well Matthew so here’s the deal the Knicks are very good so there’s worse teams that might take a chance on a super athlete yeah the team the team that’s um 12 and four in their in their last uh 16 they’re not they’re they’re just good no they’re very good they’re getting better the defense has entered the top 10 in recent weeks on top of that they have a top three offense in basketball the team is just flourishing on every level and Jericho Sims doesn’t really have a part with this team anymore especially with the emergence of hucky getting better and better it’s just pointless to have Jericho still on the squad guys let’s see some comments how we doing wait before we get into the comments um can we talk about last night’s game cuz you and Chris you you and me we weren’t able to do a post game uh can we just talk about the highlights CAD going coming back going back to Minnesota looking like an allar um I’m not moved at all uh the the Timberwolves there in disarray that whole Julius ran stuff is I don’t know what’s going to happen with them um there reports that Julius Rand he just left right after the game he didn’t want to talk to anybody so and Bron tried to find him right he tried to find him I saw that clip online um Julius Rand seems like he it’s it’s really affecting him and he really wanted to make a statement last night he just couldn’t um CAD last night had 32 he had 20 rebounds a strong double double six assists 10 of 12 from the field five of five from three-point line seven of nine yo the that yo the trade is still like the Minnesota oves they were so much closer to being a contender prior to making that trade so it had to be a financial it was incentive it it had like it had to be no question like it had to be Financial to let him go but I just I’m I’m just not moved by it yeah they blew him out but the Minnesota timbl they’re still figuring stuff out and I’m just not moved by it so I don’t know how you guys feel about the game Dariel I agree with you I think last night’s last night’s win was more of a feel-good win instead of an actually substantial win the Timberwolves are they’re solid they’re they’re not bad by any means that whole like middling group in the west they all have decent records that the the western conference is better than the East they all have decent con uh Records they’re decent teams so blowing out a team like that is always going to be at least like a pretty solid win but I I do agree with you they they definitely got worse with the Dante dant chenzo and Julius Randall coming in because the team doesn’t flow as well anymore last year everyone had their roles and this year it feels like for the Timberwolves those roles got a little bit muddled up so I would say hopefully they figure it out but I don’t care if they figure it out let’s go next no 100% uh to your point man the Minnesota timber they’re 14 and 12 right now they’re in the eth seed they’re and any everybody from the fourth seed no everybody from well Dallas Mavericks are 17 and 10 fourth seed going all the way down to Minnesota 14 and 12 so yeah I don’t know man it’s just uh that game against the Minnesota Timberwolves like it just didn’t move me bro the next 17- 10 7 and3 in the last 10 like Chris said but we also got to take into account like the the opponents that we we’ve been facing so so what what would you needed to have seen last night for it to be a more meaningful win honestly I wouldn’t it it’s not even if they won by 50 I still would have been like okay cool like yeah you got guys are getting a little better little by little Mel Bridges is still doing his uh his uh his uh shooting woes he has a good game Bridges is averaging 23 points per game and his three-point shooting is climbed he’s also the highest Corner three-point shooter in uh the NBA yeah no I mean he’s playing better he’s definitely playing better um he looks like an Allstar this month I’m just gonna say it this month but we still it really depends on the whole season so I’m not mad I I I don’t I’m not mad that Mel Bridges is like he’s not consistent he’s going to take time I’m not I’m not one of these fans that’s going crazy I think he’s got it I think he figured it out personally I I think he did it think you think you think last night yeah he he had a really good game last night is from now from here moving forward you think Mel bridg is going to be consistent I think from December 1 moving forwards he’s been really good bro like he’s been nice like straight up balled out the entire month aing 22 2.3 points per game this month I am going to do a full video breaking down M Cel Bridges so guys stay tuned for that probably sometime tomorrow morning I spilled whiteclaw my new sweatshirt that’s great um but look people have been asking us to talk about Mel Bridges which is why I jumped in there um but look I do think that male Bridges was the perfect trade for the Knicks I think it was an amazing idea I think it fits everything the Knicks need I think they’re learning how male Bridges impacts the floor defensively which is not being a point of attack Defender it’s being a help Defender and clearly when that’s happened that’s been great also we saw Mel Bridges look absolutely phenomenal on Anthony Edwards last night I think it was a matter of M Bridges having his role switch so Swit yeah so male Bridges he started off poorly but he I really think he’s finding his role I think the problem was that he didn’t know like how he fit to the team so now that he’s that he’s finding that role like no one can tell him what his role is going to be everyone’s just got to play together and they got to see if it works out so I’m I feel I feel good about where he is I was a little bit worried I know some people were really worried in the offseason about his shooting form like way way way too worried about his shooting form but I think it’s it’s coming a lot it’s coming Chris is so mad right now and he can’t even say anything back to me because his mic’s not working no it’s it’s good long de that that was uh that video I was told to make that video I I know Chris Chris are there any comments do you want to address um yeah I mean just speaking on the male stuff though yeah as you said you can’t really tell male what his role is no one that’s no one’s job’s job but tibs is job and the Knicks play a freelance style it’s someone goes off every night and usually it’s towns and then also Brunson but between OG and male like you’ve seen them play well together you’ve seen one play well and the other one not like the Knicks are figuring it out this is a team where there’s a lot of cooks in the kitchen and they all can play off ball and are all happy to play both on or off the ball it’s what makes the team work so well is the only thing Brunson does better than score off the dribble is Catch and shoot a three-pointer like the man’s catch and shoot is absurd male Bridges has been awesome OG has been having one of if not the best season of his career Carl Anthony town is having the best season of his career Josh Hart is having the best season of his career this is a unit that’s figured out how to work well and so far the Celtics have been the team that’s just Far and Away the best team in basketball and the Knicks are the only other team with a true five out lineup and we’re seeing why they’re all clicking why everyone’s playing their best basketball five out is clearly the way to go and now CP the franchise mentioned this um over the summer when the Knicks were interested in towns the reasoning was because the Knicks wanted to five out that would match Boston because they thought that was the way to succeed and they’ve been absolutely right it’s now just a matter of figuring out the defense a little bit more even though the defense has been good it’s just getting a bit more Rim protection in there at times and we’ve seen presses come in there in the next defensive rating has gone up since the Cha’s come back and on top of that we’ve just seen Michaela play better on ball defense and just defense in general we’ve seen Town’s defense get better so I think it’s just everything’s falling into place for the team also I’m not going to the Christmas game and I don’t believe Matt is and I I would guess the darel’s not flying in for the Christmas game you never know baby I might make a last minute decision to fly out to New York and go see wiay yama and get pummeled by the Knicks no absolutely I’m not going listen man cats yeah I’m much respect the cat the way he’s playing turning around his The Narrative around his name um I’m happy that he’s getting more people to respect his game um you know me just it just matters when it counts baby I’m just gonna I’m going to be dissecting his game in April like crazy so that’s all I got to say who towns yeah I can understand that towns yeah no but again man like Allstar no question MVP talks I the MVP ladder the NBA comes out with I think he was like fifth or sixth and I think this is the first time he’s ever been in that conversation so I’m just I’m happy for him man I just I I really hope that he could pick it up I mean I hope that he could stay consistent um and just long wait until the playoffs but we’ll see what happens we also haven’t seen towns in the center role very often in the playoffs which makes it interesting to think about like he’s going to be dragging centers out of the paint which hurts teams in the playoffs when that happens we saw that be one of the big reasons why the Knicks struggle to guard the 76ers I mean Maxi’s attacking was great and they were dragging Mitch and hartenstein out of the paint by putting Joel embiid at the high post or putting him on the top of the key so it’s worked well so I’m curious see how it’s going to go I imagine towns is just playing better because he’s found his rhythm with the Knicks in a way that the Timberwolves didn’t fit him as well towns fits better on a Knicks team than the Timberwolves I mean look at the Timberwolves last year yeah they had everything you needed they had good shooting they had great defense between McDaniels Edwards and obviously Rudy goar but at the same time towns likes to work inside as well and when you have Anthony Edwards Jaden McDaniels and Rudy goar on the floor with you at the same time it’s kind of tough to work inside especially when you’re the greatest shooting big man of all time you’re going to get relegated to that three-point line and now towns doesn’t have that happen as much yeah sometimes he walks to the court and just cashes a three from 40 feet out but like it’s it feels like his game is more on all three levels this season especially at the hoop and behind the arc that it’s been over the last few years with him sharing the floor with R go Bear yeah I mean we also got to take a look at the it’s the easn conference too the level of play he has to face how many great players that he’s going to be guarding I mean Yannis he’s going to be spacing embiid is never healthy uh bam uh bam is having a crappy year I feel bad for him but I mean the easn conference is also so much more is less competitive so C’s going to be thriving and as he should as he should I have no problem with the Eastern Conference being less competitive if it benefits theck we’ve had enough hardships Smith Jonas Val junis gets kma and Mitch Washington gets precious Jeff Green Sten Adams in the Washington what is this trade you are talking about I’m reading a trade yeah you see that in the chat Dario shout out Chris Katana uh he’s been a long time uh follower of the um of of Nick’s digest but Chris I will say there’s no way that they that the Rockets would give up actually maybe theyd give up Jabari Smith for kosman and Mitch they don’t want to pay Jabari Smith it’s still a stretch I think to imagine that Houston would give a bunch of Ari Smith just two a half years in because he’s shown signs that he might be someone solid but the trade looks better the more I look at I don’t think the Knicks would want to pay jabaru Smith either though it becomes the problem and that is it’s certainly going to weaken the defense I don’t hate the idea I just think there’s better moves to make but buing Matt long the Knicks are better than a lot of the Western Conference teams o full name like I don’t I’m not a fan of teams in the Western Conference so like I I brought up a stat two weeks ago or maybe it was like three weeks ago where it was every single team in the Western Conference was over 500 versus the Eastern Conference but the Knicks are better than most teams in the league so like he his his com the second half of the comments right yeah no absolutely but Chris I saw I saw another comment uh referring to your guy over the summer Nick Richards is he still a a possible trade Target for the Knicks he absolutely is still a trade Target for the Knicks because he’s been brought up multiple different times and when a Nick gets brought up multiple different times what it means is the front office really likes them because if something gets leaked to the media it means the Knicks are doing it the Knicks are too good at keeping stuff in house I mean no like the OG stuff came out at significant times and it felt like it wasn’t going to happen because the lawsuit between the two teams but it did anyway we’d heard about male for so long and then it happens usually when a player returns to rumors with the Knicks you see that player come to the Knicks during the Leon Rose era we’ve seen it with Derrick Rose we’ve seen it with Alec Burks when he left and then there was a ton of rumors about him getting traded to the Knicks the entire time we’ve seen it now with male Bridges we saw it with Carl Anthony towns for four years I mean like I do think the Nick could be interested in Nick Richards I think trading precious for makes a ton of sense as new Lord just put in the comments atua will get traded the Knicks don’t have the money to extend him more which he’s absolutely right the Knicks don’t plan on extending precious second they signed him they knew they’d trade him they actually gave him more money giving him a $6 million contract in agreeance that he would wave his no trade clause so the Knicks could move him wherever he wants so precious is totally going to get moved off the Knicks um I would imagine Jericho Sims might also just for money for money had a no trade CLA it’s uh it’s a resigning thing from like cuz he was in year four so um it’s like the um the qualifying offer so if you get resigned to a one-year deal by your team you’re given a no trade clause but um you have the right to wave it and the Knicks basically said we’ll throw an extra Mill or two at you if you just wave that no trade clause for us and precious took the money which he should also because the Knicks are not an ideal situation for precious he’s better off on a bad team where he can inflate his money yeah take first of all take your money precious like cuz you know get that get that bag but like it just makes more sense for precious to be on a bad team the Knicks don’t throw lobs precious could be a real lob threat I like Precious on the horn it’s I think a Nick Richards for precious aoua trade makes so much sense for everyone involved I talked about this in a video a couple minutes ago so I don’t want to really go farther into that but look essentially I do think that Nick Richards is going to be a consistent Target for the Knicks the Knicks like the way he plays he’s from New York it just screams it makes sense on every level and Nick Richard can catch a ball so that definitely helps yo did y’all watch the did yall watch the championship game OKC and uh bucks you saw our boy hardenstein out there that was Tuesday Tuesday yeah I was actually winning my recck league championship game that day so guys are actually looking how much did you drop how much did you drop what are the stats I put up 21 points seven rebounds and one assist I was shooting that thing I took like 19 shots dude cuz our leading score was out so I I was like sorry it’s me now but I got my metal got metal got my metal I got my shirt somewhere I don’t know where my shirt’s at lit yeah no but hardenstein I was watching him play I was just like is that is that the jersey for the season or is that the championship this is my Championship shirt we have like actual basketball jerseys it’s uh nice is this like sitting next to every single thing related to this this Championship I’m s I’m sitting next to my bedroom drawer where I keep my clothes actually okay that makes a lot more sense l y listen man put on the Jersey after yeah hardenstein sorry no it’s all good no I was just watching hartstein play and he didn’t have a monster game but I’m just watching him play and I’m like God damn it man yo we dude if he had hardenstein bro It’ll be such a problem he’s such a perfect fit on this team too it’s so infuriating it’s so Matt what were you gonna say I you gonna say no I was goingon to say he I was GNA say exactly what you just said he is exactly what this team needs and it sucks it sucks bro that we are contractually not allowed to pay him as much as they were allowed to offer him we should damn threeyear deal that’s what the world comes down to man it’s money money the world go around but look uh one of one of my favorite uh Nick digest fans Joseph Patterson is in the chat Joe what up man i’ keep precious at the four he plays well when he’s out there the narratives about him are unfounded look I think precious is far better power fow than he is a center I mean the numbers back it up when he played power for as a starter for the Knicks he averaged 12 and a half points n and a half rebounds and two blocks per game I think especially on a team that has Mitchell Robinson pre stua makes a ton of sense given he was getting baked by Julius Randall in the first quarter last night but um but that’s a uh it’s Julius Randle he’s an All-Star Chris Chris read the comments dude I yo I think I just read the comment that refer to I think I just read that comment that you’re referring to hilarious you you you know exactly what comment I’m referring to everyone knows the comment I’m by m yeah yeah yeah yeah hilarious I mean I’m not gonna say that we’re better than Nick’s fan TV they’re the best at this everyone notic that not that common not that common imagine if Chris rolled away like his living room was just drunk full of white Dash i w I’m not gonna pin that but I want to pin that so bad that would have been imagine roll away it’s a massive swasa Matt is that the one you’re referring to of course oh okay there no those he at first I was like the shabzi one’s Fair like he’s right like no he added he added a comment uh prior to that about me and my mustache he pumped for the unveilling of the Jeff Horn statues dude I feel like that must lure my kid that is awful dude we just hop on this stream and start getting roasted this guy’s going off dude it’s like that scene of SpongeBob where dud all three of us have already been roasted chill out bro chill out M well no someone someone was someone was just telling me I was pissed that the Western Conference was good apparently and apparently I’m mad that the Knicks are good even though I’m a Knicks fan Matt how dare you be mad only you got to roast Matt if you’re roasting be don’t do that don’t do that what is this BS I can take it MB pause who yeah my goodness but uh okay okay well we have Chris give us another trade Target give us another trade Target Chris Chris’s favorite players are Kevin Knox Frank NE Lin nland noell dude never first of all more to see you back first of all never disrespect The Goat in nland no well but also Frank forever what’s up Matt what what what do you want me to say because yeah let’s get back I want you to give us another trade Target because I know you have a lot of them trade Target um someone mentioned was well we could talk about the guy in the thumbnail and Larry Nance like that’s someone who the Knicks have had some connection to for a bit now there’s been some rumors about it Bleacher Report posting that Larry n could be a fit I feel like he’s just it just feels like it’s equivalent to Precious atua you have a guy who’s a tweener between the four and the five position who can’t shoot well enough to be a four I guess makes some sense on a Carl Anthony towns center team but it’s not his defense is worse than preciouses it that feels it feels like a weak weird move to go out and make a move for Larry Nance same thing with Valen junis it’s like there’s no defense there first of all that Valen junis and cat can’t really can’t play together but like those are two guys that disgusting work are interesting are very interesting Duos um yeah what we’re looking for is that that Center to protect the rim while cat roams as the four and can just you know go five out and and uh just rain threes but we got to protect the rim as well because he doesn’t protect protect the wh the rim well enough so no that that’s what that’s just what we need in any trade what we gotta get back so Larry n he’s just like precious he doesn’t make the Knicks team better so I’m I’m with Chris I don’t really un I don’t really understand Chris is he on like a cheap contract or something I’m not I’m unfamiliar with his contract details really dude he’s on a contract where the Knicks would I think you’d have to move Mitch to get him which makes even less sense do you have any idea why his name has been brought up so much I think because the Knicks vaguely showed interest in him over the summer like they explored all options and the Knicks and the Hawks have made trades before for instance the Cameron reddish deal so that Leon knows uh Landry fields and the Knicks front and the Hawks front office so because of that they are going also shout out lry Fields but um with um also shout out cam reddish Fair um can’t believe he’s still in the Lakers like I always forget I just I just watched sh in a fool and he had like two two instances where he like air boled sorry remember when we honestly I think I think those those were probably edited Clips those are probably edited don’t believe everything you see on TV Dario yo I like cam reddish man but it’s just I don’t think it’s gonna happen for him bro no I am pretty positive it’s not going to happen for him I’m pretty positive the official playback said that he would move Sims and he would move Sims and also did he mention Sims I I’m with you there I like Jericho Sims he seems like a cool dude he can make an exciting get Jericho out of here bro I’m the one advocating for him and I’m the one saying yo it’s time to go bro it’s time to go back to the g- league it’s time to go back to develop your game get an actual get some confidence in yourself cut your hair dunk on everybody come back to the league with new new found confidence make sure coach tips is not your coach because you’re not crying every time you miss a defensive assignment uh let him put uh let him put up Kenny Wooten numbers in the G League dude if I if Jer if I had Jericho Sims athletic ability what every time I touch the ball I am attacking the rim like Giannis bro the fact that he doesn’t God he’s so frustrating but yeah it’s over for Jericho Sims Larry n Jr not a big fan I’m looking at his stats right now uh three-pointers he’s what is it 60% from the field but that’s only on three three-point attempts so the volume isn’t really there I’m just Larry n SL like Chris like you said he’s kind of like the same thing with precious like he doesn’t really do I’m not really moved by it so move the needle it’s just as a replacement for precious and that doesn’t I was literally going to say that I was literally going to say it’s like it’s not a needle mover but I took a step back and I’m like if we’re looking for someone just to help cat alleviate some of the pressure and the minutes does that person need to be a needle mover well I’d rather just be Mitch if if you’re going to trade Mitch for someone like Nance because that’s the only contract that really absolutely yeah that’s it just that actually is a needle mover it moves the Knicks farther away from the goal facts but well when Mitch comes back he’s starting he’s not coming off the bench moreful Nets fan the Nets did not just trade for Michael Porter Jr why are you that I’m double I’m looking that up right now they didn’t cam Thomas or the Denver Nugget maybe I don’t I think he’s still on that rookie deal it would have to be uh have to be Darian and like draft picks I guess I don’t like needles I don’t like needles either uh but we have it we have the best com that’s pressure I like I like needles when our players move them that’s the only time troll alert wait Matt say that again I said I like needles when our players move them right yo I do want to I do want to ask when Mitch comes back healthy uh I’m under the assumption that he’s going to be in starting five and Josh har is the one coming off the bench are we all in agreeance I think for a while I think it’s matchup based I think for a while Mitch will come off the bench while he like gets back into shape like sh once he gets back into the shape once he gets you know all that back the feeling back and all that stuff I think he’s going to be a starting five and Josh Hart would be coming off the bench I think the that’s the best move I honestly just think it depends on matchups like if you’re guarding a good offensive big then yeah probably throw Mitch in there someone who attacks the rim well then you put Mitch in there I could also see it being Mitch comes off the bench but if it’s not working like three minutes in tips throws him in I think they’re going to be very careful with Mitch because they know how important he is to the Knicks went playoffs come around that they’re going to be very careful with them have we has there ever been like a report or a story talking about maybe like rumors of Mitch coming off the bench and him not being happy with it because I can’t think of any right now because no he never cared about coming when he came off the bench for the Knicks as the best player on the team like he he said he was fine with it because it it made him feel more comfortable when fdale would bring him off the bench because they each said like fdale and Mitch both said it’s like for some reason he gets better if he just watches the flow of the game for a few minutes so then we put him in after which was actually like I’m not a big advocate for David fizdale I mean the guy was a terrible head coach but who was on that agreed with him Damen datson what about Damen Johnson no he said who was on the fizdale team who was on that team starting lineup on the fizdale team for game one was point guard was Trey Burke shooting guard was Tim Hardway J alono Trier on that team yeah Alonzo Trier was on that team coming off the bench Frankie Lina played small for for a bit um Frankie Dukes they had um they had a few different big men they had Mitch they had Taj Gibson uh that was the second year Fizz that when he got fired halfway through that was with the Julius and RJ team also because Julius and RJ were there for t for fizz’s second year but uh fizz’s first year with the Knicks um it was when was that season where MIT okay coming off the bench was it the first um his uh his rookie year when like they started him for a bit because it became very evident like 20 games in that Mitchell Robinson was the best player on the team but he was so raw and then the second that DeAndre Jordan got to the team he just like fixed Mitchell Robinson and then Mitch just became the Mitch we all know and love like literally that’s what happed DeAndre Jordan showed up and mentored Mitch for five minutes and then Mitch just figured it out well if I was Mitch on that team I would be okay coming off the bench because the talent on that team is trash so now that we’re now we’re in a contender now that we’re a contender and he and the coach is like yo the best thing for our team is for you to come off the bench and if Mitch is giving us problems like rumors of him being happy with that Mitch by all Mitch is very easygoing like from what I don’t know much about the Nicks locker room like what I do know is apparently it’s shockingly not clicky despite the fact of all these villain NOA guys and like male being friends with uh Cameron Payne and all that like yeah know is definitely there what’s up The Vibes is definitely there you could tell yeah like they have good vibes they’re all very that every single one of them went to Jericho sims’s High School Jersey retirement the other day like they’re verys tibs was there Rick Brunson was there like the Knicks do have a lot of togetherness um they’re a very close team with each other the and I know that Mitch is really like he’s not like difficult to deal with he is a quiet person like Mitch is not like someone like he posts on social media a lot but it’s not like posts that say anything about his life like I mean he never posts about his girlf he posts photos of his daughter and all that but like outside of that like the only stuff he posts on the only time he ever posted anything regarding his family on Instagram was when he bought his mom a car a few years ago and like Mitch has an interesting relationship with his family like he was raised by his grandparents not his mother because his mom I I don’t want to say something that’s incorrect online but I believe his mom was like very very young when she had Mitch like I don’t know the age but like she she was not like an adult when when uh Mitch was born and like he calls her mom by her first name and all that like Mitch is a very nice person by all means but he’s like also very quiet like Harin the one who knew him well apparently I’m just saying that like we haven’t seen Mitch we haven’t seen Mitch in the in the spot where it’s like yo we need you to sacrifice and if he’s put if he’s put if he’s given that option will he sacrifice will will he make a will he make a big deal out about it that’s all I’m saying we haven’t seen his his personality has hasn’t given us any reason to be worried about him not accepting that role like what we’ve seen from him whatever role the coaches want to give him no matter no matter how good or bad that coach is he’s taken that role and he’s just done his best with it whether he’s been like he’s been injured a lot obviously but he gives effort like and he just he plays his part he’s not it’s not a problem on or off the court so I have to I have to feel like he’s not going to make that a problem hopefully and uh Mitch get off social media bro no more workout picks no more workout picks we don’t need that I’m part I’m I’m the millennial I’m the older one I’m the older Statesman in this group you don’t need to show everybody you’re working hard just work hard in the dark and then let the light spread work hard in the dark Mitch only work out turn go in the gym and turn the lights off exactly turn the lights off that way you can’t take a mirror selfie that’s no I I I do understand uh that I care less but I it might just be the age thing I don’t know because Dariel you’re obviously an elderly man um but easy easy no in all serious in all seriousness I I could see where you where you’re absolutely coming from with that and I I don’t disagree I’m more like I don’t mind but I completely see the argument I don’t disagree with the argument at all but uh yeah so MB is mentioning a few different people that were on these fizdale teams some of them are correct like KY o Quinn kylo Quinn was so funny bro KY o Quinn what a legend dude yeah I had I saw that name and I didn’t know if you were going to bring it up but like someone had to so here he is kylo Quinn was just the absolute man what year did fizdale get fired he got fired Julius and RJ’s first year with the team because the second fizdale got fired julius’s points ballooned up um and Mike Mill 201920 that’s what I was gonna say 2019 yeah either late 2019 or early 2012 I remember I was in our dorm like Matt like I was walking through the hallway and saw Fizz got fired and I was like let’s go hug take that for dat take that take that for data legendary that a great line I use that that was the hardest thing of all time though you got I think fdale is probably actually like a very good assistant coach because he just rides for his players like he’s very Rick Brunson is of like an assistant coach like just a players coach has their back but also like and just actually wants them to be their best selves but like also like hard no David fizo is a thousand times better Coach than Rick Brun I’m not going to say Rick Bron’s a better Coach had opportunity to be no because you just said you was just like David fdel he said he said he he’s that type of assistant coach he didn’t say he was better or worse he just said they’re both player coaches I was about to say I was like yo David fiso was was the head coach of a Memphis gy playoff team like what are we doing yeah and and he was saying and like as assistant coaches uh as a head coach we we don’t know what Rick Brunson is should he ever be given a head coaching role we don’t know what what that would even look like um but we do know he’d probably Force the team to trade for Jaylen Brunson facts probably um nepotism at its best baby we we did everything we could to get Jaylen Bronson including heavy tampering and it worked suck it Mavericks what are you gonna do um I guess they they’ll trade for Kyrie irvy and go to the NBA finals so good for them uh good for Marcel Martin but uh we need to get the they had no chance they had no realistic chance to actually win that finals they were so outclass the entire time Jeff Hornes sec’s daughter was so hot I give him a pass for being a terrible coach Yik I feel the comments have started to understand what Nick’s happy hour is it is us talking about the Knicks but we do Veer off into the most random stuff whoever commented that like chill chill the horny out bro he’s also right chill the horny hor a sec what are you pointing at me for yo wrong hand what’s up can we talk a little can we just talk a little uh NBA in general not Nick specific just talking about yeah but I might pipe in with comments if people have questions no 100% I just wanted to talk about just like I don’t know man like I’m looking at Denver I’m looking at OKC Boston and Cleveland are obviously the best teams in the East but like the Lakers are an absolute mess LeBron oh and also the ratings the ratings of the NBA that’s been a really big thing lately talking about how bad the NFL is kicking our ass yeah do you guys watch uh to the comments not you guys but I also do want to know from you guys but commenters do you guys still like do you guys watch other NBA teams or just the Knicks we have a shot at Nick Richards and charot we absolutely do I just did a video explaining a lot of that but uh yeah o wow no definitely great question but yo dude the it’s easy the problem with the NBA is everybody looks the same we need to stop with with this three-point stuff and somebody somebody came out with an article the other day he came out with a I think 432 system something like that where oh my God the NBA is just doing way too much bro just keep it simple this All-Star format like what are they doing these guys are out of their minds I like what they did with the inseason tournament I like what they did with the um the the last what’s that called the playing tournament at the end of the season I like that they’re adjusting but there are some things that you just don’t touch like don’t add a four-point line don’t do any of that stupid that would be horrendous that would be horrendous that would that would start the uh the NBA’s downward spiral into just a car Carnival basketball yeah literally it’ll look like what’s up next you spin around three times and hit a shot and it it just it’s just a gamewinner it’s just every game is the skills contest every game is an All-Star Game and none of them actually count and you just pull the playoff games out of a hat I’m not really sure how Adam Silver fixes this like you can’t like force a team to not shoot threes and then I’ve heard that like you you make a limit like every NBA game every team they could only take 15 threes maybe I heard that is the worst idea ever heard in my life I don’t know but what do you guys think like do you guys think I think I think you go out you draft a point guard who can shoot threes really well you pair him with a shooting guard who can shoot threes really well then you draft a small forward who can defend really well but not shoot threes then you go to the finals lose in the finals or actually you uh go to the finals win the finals then you bring in a power forward who can uh small forward you can also shoot really really well and then you can have a dynasty all predicated on the three-point line are you going to say going sign javil McGee and Andrew bogot or trade for and obviously I’m talking about the Golden State Warriors darel the three-pointer is not going anywhere the Le runs pointer sorry Dariel I know I know you’re old school and you want to everyone just like back to the basket backing people down post play like room protection just like beating people down I know I know that’s how you like basketball to work but it’s just not how the league is trending right now no bro I don’t want uh Nicks in the90s type of NBA offense that is horrible I I would so that’s my bad because I would have thought that you would be all about that like you know just someone push you the wrong way punch him in the face maybe no I definitely want the physicality to come back up like 100% if I was the NBA commissioner my number one thing I would have get a meeting with all the refs and I’m being like we’re not calling technical fouls if someone dunks on somebody we’re not calling technical fouls if somebody talking trash if you hang on the rim like I’m eliminating I’m eliminating all of that like we’re going to get we’re going to get into the rawness of the game if someone dunks on somebody they have every right to point at them to curse at them to talk trash we’re going to get we’re going to get back into that but as far as like the way I want the the NBA to look as the way offens is I want a mixture I want a nice healthy diet bro I don’t want the Mavericks and the Golden State Warriors combining for 1003s or whatever it was and I don’t want the Bulls and the Charlotte Hornets on the other end of that Spectrum like they didn’t hit hit any of the three-pointers like we got to have a healthy diet and that’s why I think implementing a rule of like you can only take a certain amount of Threes in a game I think that might help I just I don’t like what I’m seeing bro like every time every time I’m watching a game it’s literally the same bro I see players underneath the basket grab a rebound automatically look towards behind the three-point line they’re not even looking at The Rim what is this that is horrible to me bro every time you get the ball just go back up I don’t care if it’s a two-pointer or a three-pointer you go back up whenever you get the rebound underneath the glass I think there’s a fix to the problem I think you I mean Dar Hill you said it before I did it’s it’s the lack of physicality you have the ref stop calling fouls the the same way there has to be less fouls in the game because that makes defense easier once defense gets easier it becomes easier to defend threes once threes become harder to defend teams will attack the rim more and there will be more of a mix it’s literally the fouls someone said this in the comments also it’s not the player’s fault it’s the ref’s fault it is the ref’s Fault there’s everything so Ticky tack oh he made contact with me I can go whine to another grown man and he’ll call a foul no The Whining will stop if the foul if the level of fouls being called goes lower and there can be more contact hand checking has to come back it just has to be a thing in basketball again it makes it too hard to not get backed down how are you supposed to stop someone from backing you down in the paint if you can’t put your hand on them what I just got to lean my torso into you like we’re doing some dance at the club like it’s it’s the strangest thing in the world to me that hand checking got banned it does not make sense I think allowing hand checking and just taking away fouls where if you jump and your arms are up and there’s contact it’s not even a thought that it’s a foul and the only time technicals really will happen are if people get into a fight or if someone I think if someone argues with the ref they should just instantly get teed up it’s like nope you argued by call absolutely not get back on defense stop being an ass about it I think it’s that Chris I really like the like you argue at the ref you get a tech I would love that to be inputed but you were saying how you don’t know why hand checking isn’t allowed and why they can’t play defense the NBA wants more scoring because more scoring is more entertaining for casuals to watch and then more people are going to watch the ratings are down with the scores with the scores being up right now Matt no but they think they think I I should have said this they think that more scoring is going to equal more fun it’s across all sports it’s happening football we’re seeing the same thing they’re they just want to see more scorings all they want to see is more scoring so they think that people are going to like watching the games more if there’s more scoring but darel do you think that more points being scored has a direct impact on the ratings going down it it the reason why I’m going to say yes is because the way it’s happening the reason why the scores are up is because it’s just so easy it’s just so easy to score you can’t like Chris said you can’t really play defense the way it once was and on top of that one thing I completely agree with you in basketball if you you can always be good enough at offense to where the defense doesn’t matter at all and that’s a problem yeah and then I was going to say it’s just like everybody just shooting threes so if you can’t play defense and you can’t really contest a shot because it’s going to be automatically uh foul called you’re going to be shooting threes and you’re going to have a better you’re going to have a better chance of hitting them so I don’t necessarily think the scores being up is going to help the NBA but the reason why I brought this up man is just like I’m actually kind of worried because dude the NFL they took over Thanksgiving the NBA that was Thanksgiving way back in the day you guys are probably like 5 years old whatever the NFL they’re starting to take over Christmas Christmas is undoubtedly the NBA’s day and now they have be now they have Beyonce working the halftime show now they have Mariah Cary opening up the the Christmas Day game on Netflix I believe like the NFL they’re smelling blood in the water bro and I’m not a NFL guy I don’t like football I think that sport is that’s a story for another day I’m like a really seriously Matt you don’t like NFL no no NFL is my favorite sport by he’s kidding oh yeah I forgot handwave to the NFL I don’t like American football but dude like I’m just like I don’t like seeing this for the sport bro basketball is my favorite sport and the way that I’m just seeing people talk about it is like what is happening bro so I’m just I’m a little worried that the NBA they really need to they really need to step in to solve this three-point whatever craze that’s going on because it is horrible to watch yeah I think it’s hand checking I think it’s hand shacking if you argue with the refs technical you never see um the emotion in the the emotion of the game is what was what needs to be brought back if they get rid of that technical fouls bro so they people want to see like emotion out of people want see you can’t take it out on the refs CU then if you argue with the ref you get teed instantly I think that’s what it should be you argue with the ref for too long like for a few seconds it’s like technical stop arguing with me you got a problem go take it out in the court we want this it’s a contact sport grow up you’re a grown man whining to another grown man like you you you’re on camera you’re on National Television looking so silly right now knock it off I don’t know that’s my that’s how I think it would get better personally it’s getting Chris you know the way I play basketball I love the threes I love chucking threes I love watching people make sick threes but I do agree you you need there has to be more defense you have to be allowed to play defense there’s nothing right now there are there’s just too many guys the the human race is always evolving so people are getting bigger faster stronger just better at everything athletically in general so when you can get so good at offense that the defense just doesn’t matter why would you play defense now you just got to focus your team on just getting the best offense possible and hope no one can stop you Chris give me a give me an NBA comp for Matt and Matt give me an NBA comp for Chris oh I know Chris’s NBA comps easy I think this guy is a Hall of Famer really good player a lot of people like to hate on him but Chris is going to understand why I give him this comp and Chris’s comp is Draymond Green because because he is like he just sets he calls the play for everyone he sets up everyone on offense and and he’s a beast on defense too and his shooting is suspect all right okay dude I’m getting better at shooting because like he Chris do you hate that comp do you find that comp disrespectful not at all I I I compare myself more to a Lamar odm personally but um I I I think it’s a very the way that we would play at uh at the the rec center or the gym at um at school I I absolutely did that all I would do I I would literally like just give me the ball let me bring the ball up I’m going to find either one of you or our other homie Lou except you wouldn’t shoot it You’ be like you go there you go there you go there and no one thinks the B go right there you’ll be open because the shift on it and I just like wait Matt so since you’re saying Chris doesn’t shoot the ball are you saying that his comp might be Ben Simmons definitely not he can’t handle like Ben Sim I can’t handle like Ben Simmons and I’m not that athletic dude y okay so Chris Chris Chris is a playmaker absolutely I mean the thing about Chris is his IQ is a thousand times higher than everyone else he’s good too but his IQ is the thing that sets him apart from everyone else because you know people are just there trying to have fun and Chris is there thinking he’s a a coach of an NBA team has to dra play I know I’m doing more than everyone that that’ be my whole can’t beat someone athletically but yeah Chris what’s Matt Cop NBA comp uh all right we’re back my mic cut out for a second um all right so Matt I mean he’s not a small fella he’s not a like massive but he like when we’d be playing like Matt’s six feet tall like he’s got some size to it and like if you leave him open he’s going to make it like if you guard him he’s likely going to make it I know how to guard Matt cuz I know the way his jump shot works like I know ex I know the hitch in your jump shot I know when it’s coming but like if with the hitch it’s no cuz it’s like all of a sudden like like you’re good at off balance catch and shoot threes also like you’ll catch the ball and not set your feet but like The Movement Like You Square your shoulders while moving and hit the shot like that sounds kind of Kish it’s well Matt’s not blowing by everyone he’s more by like it’s it’s less with Matt if he’s going to drive and score on you it’s less finesse and it’s more like like I I’m bigger than Matt I don’t want to have Matt run into me like it still hurts no cuz Chris the way like I’m not going to blow by you we like pull moves so I pretty much have to power dribble you from like the three-point line but it works it does work it works you put your shoulder in the right spot you move the ball well so it’s hard to poke out like [ __ ] you’re Chris give me a name bro I’m trying to think about it like it it’s tough like someone who I appreciate this because you’re trying to give give us like a really really specific comp here I mean all right it’s definitely some sort of forward um oh you give me like a mixture of a couple players you don’t have to there’s definitely uh there’s definitely a little spice of some Carl Anthony towns in there um with the way he shoots and um there’s definitely some Klay Thompson to the game there’s a lot of Klay Thompson because the defense is good and it’s based off his strength um it’s hard to get past him it’s hard to get through R him um so you have to like well if you’re me I’m just taller than him so that that helps but like it’s um yeah Matt genetics but um I’d say it I think somewhat of a fair comparison is Klay Thompson but Matt will catch off the dribble a little bit more there’s a lot there’s a lot of clay in there um dude we got we got to play with darel Chris dude Dariel saying we have an NBA group chat um like if you’re like in for the digest NBA like we have a group chat and everyone was saying like oh like me and whoever my co-host is like we’d easily wash you guys and watch anyone in like um a two on two tournament and I’m like and like I just texted I’m like you guys won’t even know why but I guarantee you Darielle and I would win and I’m not going to do anything I’m just going to stand there and throw mentry passes and just watch no my uh my NBA comp I’ve been told this is not me but I’ve been told growing up uh I’m part of the old school so I was part of the generation where like you’re the tallest kids so you’re going to be the center which kind of sucked that I hated that also yeah it sucked but I I had more of a postup game than anything else I had to develop my handles later in life which sucked again but uh Tim Duncan fundamentally sound I’m good at I’m I’m good at I mean timing is great at everything I know you’re a very good high post scorer I i’ I’ve heard that um I’ve seen your scouting reports out there what dude you’re a professional athlete I’m gonna be able to find your Scouting Report I mean I guess yeah I darel’s like yo oh he got me he knows I’m actually 6 feet tall he knows I’m actually 67 I’m actually 62 not 67 n my mid-range my mid-range is a little better Tim lincol the only mid-range shot he had with that off the bank he hit a through every once in a while but yeah I got foot work I’ve been I’ve been told by my college coach that I had the best footwork in my Prime that he’s ever seen okay let’s get back to some comments because this I love our are so much more fun but like this has been this has living in the past baby I’m Liv talk about stuff that no one in the chat can relate to for 15 straight minutes yeah they’re like what the hell is wrong with these guys but I only people here are people who just watch the channel no I do I do appreciate the people who stayed in for that and the people who are commenting just like yeah let’s get they’re not learning anything about the Knicks right now they’re learning nothing we don’t need to limit threes that’s silly uh mad is Quinton Grimes Quinton Grimes is not the worst comparison either but you’re bigger I’m hey Quin GM is having a decent season for the Mavs shout out Quin Grimes yeah Quinn gmes looks good he looks good on the Mavericks I mean the Pistons were just such a terrible ran team and Grimes I felt like the number one thing with the Knicks his confidence dude like it fell Quinton GRS just lost confidence in his in his game whatsoever it needs to be precious for could that be related to coach tubs I I think what happened is um it’s all love over here what up Iris the guy um we like turtles dude turt like turtles I’m dead turtles are pretty sick I won’t lie they’re tight um but um yeah like the Pistons were just a terrible team so I felt like it was a bad mix for Quinton Grimes and then they make a terrible trade trading Quinton Grimes for Tim Hardway Jr for some God for Aken reason that was a stupid move but um but you said qu Grimes confidence was taken away during the Knicks and then I obviously equated that to co tibs and we always talk about Co tibs and Jericho Sims confidence is there we saw Grimes who was in the same draft class went from shooting 8 nine threes a game to two like he was afraid to shoot threes almost it was the craziest thing like he had been so good for the Knicks and felt like they’re starting shooting guard of the future and like a Danny Green for the Knicks for so long I mean I’d still love a Quinton GR here given M Bridges is far better but like it’s like damn like the common denominator Grimes the common denominator coach tibs Jericho Sim’s confidence is shot Quinton Grimes confidence was shot I’m just saying I think part of it I will say is just the sheer fact of like all right you look at these players there’s some guys who just don’t Thrive under tibs and other guys who do I mean everyone starting on the New York Knicks lineup right now is having outside of is having the best season of their NBA career and outside of Bronson who had it last year but still had it under tibs like we’re seeing that some guys work under tibs it’s about who works with tibs and who doesn’t you have to find those guys who can handle the old school coaching I believe in old school coaching of no like I’m not I’m not your best friend yeah I’ll be friendly with you and we’ve seen tibs be friendly with the players he went on the roommates podcast with Brunson and Har the entire time they’re just joking around having a ton of fun Josh Hart won’t stop making on of um of T head won’t doing that but you see that the way tibs talks to them he clearly cares a lot about them tibs it’s like he’s an uncle or something like the way that he talk like he’s like yeah like if I lock in like I’m gonna be serious in game I’m going to be serious but when we talk we can still talk like normal people like they asked tibs randomly who would play you in a movie and tibs is like well probably someone like a George Clooney or a Brad Pit and and John start making a face like what are you talking about you’re ugly as hell like they do have fun together um you can tell the guys like playing for tibs it’s a it’s a matter of some people like playing for tibs and some don’t like there’s a story from when Josh our first got traded to the team um they were doing a walk through that in the hotel Ballroom the Nicks do a walk walk through it’s called the ballroom walkthr and um like they’re all sticking their arms out doing the defensive shuffles uh darel’s favorite drill of all time the defensive Shuffle and uho Nightmares just pointing dude it was hell I I I stopped playing basketball after aou when I was young but like it it was hell that drill sucked um it just felt like why am I doing this um but like they’re doing it and Josh Hart was like really mailing it in like not trying at all and then what happens is tibs yells at him and Josh’s like don’t matter you’re gonna see how I do it in game and and it’ll be all good and they’re like um no dude that’s not how it works here in Josh Hart and tibs got to like a back and forth about it but like it all worked out and now Josh Hart seems like he’s tips’ favorite player like if you look outside of Brun s because tibs and Brunson have known each other for a very very long time it feels like Josh Hart is tips’ favorite Nick just by the minutes and all this yeah Chris what you said about the coach not being your coach not your friend is the most important part of this because he is there to coach you guys or not you guys he’s there to coach the Knicks so the like South Carolina is Don Staley the head coach which is South Carolina Women’s Basketball correct so there was something she got like a really high Leal recruit but they didn’t really get along and there was a quote from her she said I don’t care if you hate me you’re going to be the first overall pick in the WNBA draft and I just thought that was like such a great quote because it’s easier like Don saley she could have been friends with that girl and not done right by her and not turned her into the best possible version of herself but she didn’t do that she she prioritized making the best possible player and just said if she hates me she hates me and that person went first overall so that’s like T he’s not he’s not there to make friends he’s there to coach as well as he can he’s there to get the maximum out of every single player on the Knicks roster that he possibly can and that’s why I think he’s that’s why when he’s like yelling at people on the court I’m I’m behind it like I I I like that he does that the we run Jets digest too and the Jets coaches don’t do that Tom Tibido no matter how much they’re up by in the fourth quarter he’s never satisfied and I love that about him the New York Jets coaches they’re always smiling like every every time the Knicks the Jets come out and win like one game they feel like they’ve actually accomplished something real Tom Tibido he knows what it’s about he knows it’s about winning the playoffs and he’s always focused on being just the best version that he could possibly be and the best version that every single player on the team can be and he’s going to make sure that everyone can live up to the exact maximum that they can so and he’s going to he’s going to make sure they get there Matt and Chris look look at look at how I’m going to combine the Two Worlds I’m going to combine J digest I’m going to combine Nicks MBA digest give me an NBA comp for Aaron Rogers because all I’m seeing on ESPN is how the New York Jets Kevin Durant Matt would you agree on that yeah I wanted Cur to explain it though okay when it comes especially in the prime and Kevin Durant arguably still I mean maybe not the prime prime but still at the end of his Prim in their Prime Rogers is probably a better Roger is a higher alltime quarterback than ktie is alltime player so yeah I also think Kevin Durant’s a top 20 player of all time without question arguably top 15 We call we call him what thir 12 13 12 wait so Matt sot Aaron Rogers Prime Aaron Aaron Rogers Prime where would you put him somewhere around five of all time quack quarter quarterback yeah in his prime top five okay so Kevin dur not not top five uh anywhere between five and eight cuz there’s a tier right there there’s the top four and then there’s a tier right there that I I don’t know if you want to play like him Drew Brees who are think I have Dan Marino over just so Dan Marino um obviously obviously uh momes Brady yeah Montana yeah fair and then uh I put I believe I put Dan Marino fourth actually and then fifth could be Aaron Rogers Drew Brees it could be uh oh I’m sorry I’m sorry four four is pton Manning four is pton Manning yeah it is then uh then you get that tier of like Aaron Rogers whoever you want uh Jim Kelly from the bills never won a Super Bowl but he was really good too he’s D Marino was part of that Dan Marino was part of that cluster cluster part the Aaron Rogers cluster yeah the the not he’s not top four because those top four are really really really tough CRA okay so Aaron Rogers in his prime he’s a top five to top eight quarterback so Kevin Durant in his prime he’s what a top 10 to 15 player of all time I’d say he’s somewh around 15 okay okay I’ve gone through the rankings with you and I believe you put him at 13 yeah I’m just trying to go through the context okay okay so okay so Chris or Matt uh explain to me why Kevin Durant is the NBA comp for Aaron Rogers um so since I said it I’ll I’ll jump into this real quick um I think peak of their power the talent level is undeniable it’s just sheer talent and for some reason despite all the talent that they have and having some solid Talent around them they were never winning championships now the difference is that Kevin Durant went to the Warriors and I mean Rogers stayed with the Packers throughout his entire Prime so KD goes to the Warriors and wins and all but like with the Thunder it sort of as similar to the Packers like you should have the power like to win it’s just they never got over the hump and at points it felt like it was on the Packers never got the Packers won a Super Bowl I know I know but like that was very early in uh rogers’s career like yes he won and I think rogers’s 2009 ring means more than both of Kevin Durant’s rings but like ask that I was going to ask that I don’t want to say Rogers was at his p r he has one in 2009 the Packers won the Super Bowl Rogers who’ they beat the Saints but Chris is saying it means more than Durant because Rogers was was a wasn’t on super Team B he was the best player on his team he was the best I get I get what you’re saying I get what you’re saying they that’s just the year they won the Super Bowl but he’s been better okay like at their at the best they were they never won but there was always an argument like this is the most talented player in the league like yes Rogers won one the same way that Kevin Durant not exactly his Peak made the NBA finals and had a great showing just lost to a stacked up Heat team I’m completely blanking mad who who’ the Packers beat the Steelers yeah the Steelers what year what year was that in Aaron Rogers career d uh oh boy I don’t know what I don’t know what year he was drafted that was 200 or 10 so like second or third season winning the Super Bowl I want to say his third it Wasa he sat on the bench to start his career right behind Favre okay yes so let’s say let’s say it’s his third season and he won the Super Bowl we don’t have the exact number but yeah I get it he just he wasn’t the player that he W that he is now with his powers and his skills and he he was like developing skills but he got the Super Bowl okay okay I’m just trying to like I’m just trying to flush it out to get to give context yeah also yeah he he’s won four MVPs so like but he when he was winning those MVPs they weren’t even making it to the Super Bowl right right right right interesting okay yeah and a lot of a lot of players have Aaron Rogers not top five but number one those people are wrong but people smarter than us have have him number one I just brought it up man because every time I put ESPN there’s always a bottom line of Aaron Rogers just like completely destroying the Jets organization and how much yeah there was a an article that came out I think fiveish o’clock today Aaron Rogers from Dan Graziano ESPN one of like their top ESPN NFL guys Aaron Rogers is a con artist he is a narcissist he is self absorbed to the absolute maximum and if he has you fooled again that’s on you yeah I saw that too I saw that scathing damn KD KD KD is one of my favorite players bro but his KD is one of my favorite players yeah just the narrative around his name is like it’s fair it’s like you’re you’re the best player on every team you’ve been on including the Warriors I don’t care what y’all say that’s why I pause that’s why I paused when I said Aaron Rogers was the best player on his team unlik which differentiates him from Kevin Durant yeah exactly so all right just wanted to I just wanted to combine the Two Worlds yeah no that was a good question Aaron Rogers he said uh we got uh the official playback saying that Aaron Rogers is similar to kawh Leonard the prime lasted longer I mean I would say he’s not because kawh Leonard like was completely derailed by injury so is there a quarterback who played really well but injuries is like the the prime reason why he didn’t win because when kawhai was healthy like he’s a completely different player and just cares team yeah he carries teams to championships um a quarterback who didn’t win because of injuries I’m out on Kawai I am so out on Kawai I’ve never been a fan Kawai never never been a fan is crazy 20 his 2019 when he took down the Warriors yeah he he come on man he took down the Warriors because KD and Clay were done stop oh oh I know I understand thatone WIS injuries the shot like oh there’s no as everyone knows the context of that Championship but there’s no asterisk on that Championship because if Raptor Championship yes there’s no asterisk it’s the asterisk is not as big as the Lakers got Hur against the warri asterisk to that Raptor champ you could put an asterisk on whatever Championship you want to put an asterisk on true that makes sense every every Championship has context but not every single Championship has an asterisk it’s on this is this could sound kind of bad to say it’s on the Warriors to stay healthy just like it’s on kawi Leonard to stay healthy when he lost to the Warriors early on the Spurs wait how is it on the Warriors with with KD like how are you going to prevent that his Achilles Like how how are you going to prevent that you can don’t get hurt well I mean injuries just happen though that every team is benefited man that sounds crazy broed off injuries yeah no like so you you got to stay healthy to to win championships like what do you want me to what do what do you what you have prevented that Warriors could not have prevented KD messing up his uh ailles tendon okay let let’s just go back in history for a second the boss Dario kcho the number one draft pick in the 2025 NBA draft let’s go baby should be absolutely but like like 100% uh like Cooper flag absolutely not um but uh FL flag sucks um but no like I mean the the Celtics like you saw Donovan be hurt and miss some time you saw Halbert and be hurting Miss some time and yeah the subel were better than both those teams but they still benefited off injuries like basically every team that’s won you go back basically every year and just say well this team benefited off another team dealing with injuries like it basically has always happened like throughout the course of NBA history like part of winning a championship every single Championship is luck based it’s not all luck based and some are more than others majority of it yeah a lot yeah Stroke of Luck in the process like look at the Knicks dude they lost half their team like who knows maybe this year other teams will get injured and the Knicks stay healthy all of a sudden the Knicks are in the NBA Finals like oh well well Jason Tatum twisted his ankle and missed those three games at the Eastern Conference Finals that’s not Carl Anthony towns or Jaylen Brunson or anyone on the knicks’ fault if an injury happens that’s why I’m saying it’s on the team themselves to stay healthy like if it happens it happens I understand it’s unlucky but you like you got to stay healthy finesse full J commented something I can’t understand hear me out Caruso for Divo I already think the Thunder would say no but um okay um fact yeah just off Rip but uh a perfit that’s a text message that’s a text message and nobody’s responding to that text uh then precious plus Sims Plus Deuce for dvo and Jaylen Williams well I definitely don’t think all right kind two team traes not the good Jaylen Williams the I guess they’re both good th if Bry Ain sees that he’s gonna he’s GNA find my apartment um but um yeah Jay not jdub the other Jaylen Williams Jay right the big guy I got say yeah yeah yeah I I just don’t think the the Thunder would ever want to do that deal at all I just don’t think protect Deuce at all costs baby also I don’t want to see dece go I don’t think you have to give up dece to get Dante D venzo I think it’s Mitch because the money the finances work too well like it’s Mitch I mean does D.A want to come back to the Knicks didn’t he didn’t he want out that turned out to be a fake story and either way he’s on the bench now with the uh with the uh timber wolves so it’s like so how do we know how do we know that that was a fake story Ian Begley kind of started to refute it after he reported it actually I don’t know if iy recorded it so I want to I want to be quick about that and not uh put something ony he’s an awesome guy um but no Begley reported that that’s not true and that D or that at the very least he guaranteed that D venzo was very excited for the next season after coming off that and even playing a sixthman role like yeah you’re going to get less minutes but he’s going to get a bigger role in the same time like he’ll get to do more on offense he’s not just a catch and shoot guy that had to excite him like I mean you know D venzo no matter what like he’s such a competitor he’s definitely thinking like he’s like I love that I’m playing with the Knicks and I love my role but at the same time I know I can be more than just a catch and shoot if they need me to be and then he showed it in game seven against the Pacers when he put up a nice seven 70 points a nice 40 points you know what up 70 points oh my God what a night what a night what a night he’s lost anyway D chenzo he’s gain my respect bro because when he came into the league I think Milwaukee was his first team yes once he came into the league I was like yo this guy doesn’t really do anything for me and then you saw his progression and then the the season before he came to the Knicks he was with the Warriors I was super respect for d chenzo for really adding stuff to his game hate to see him leave obviously if he comes back we welcome him with open arms but we’ll see what happens also D venzo just to the official playback who’s been here the entire time shout out to the official playback for honestly giving really funny comments and also staying with us through all this uh really appreciate that Charlie Nick isn’t here and I kind of want to make him a moderator but I can’t do that to I can’t do that to Charlie he’s the goat um can you not have multiple moderators I’m not sure I don’t want to I don’t want Charlie to come back in and think he job has been stolen you don’t want to UNM moderate Charlie Nicks that would be I don’t want to accidentally UNM moderate our I wait repeat that I said that would be awkward if you accidentally Charlie’s my guy like I can’t make him not the moderator um but like as the official playback said Dante D venzo of course of course the official playback you’re literally our our big commenter right now cuz we took off on random tangents about football our NBA compe so so the official uh payback did have a a a random football comment as well he said Aaron roders best comparison is Rondo he he said a few names and and they kept getting a little more uh comedic is my guess but he did say ddv doesn’t play defense as in Don to D venzo and D venzo in the fourth quarter his um his opponent field goal percentage has been very low this year so he actually is playing very good defense with the timber wolves is the one thing that’s held up like yes his def honestly his defense has been better on the Timberwolves against the Nick or on the Knicks sometimes it was a little suspect for sure though he’s a good Defender for sure I think D van chenzo in a smaller role on the Knicks also where he’s not having to do more on offense than last season or not even have to be last year’s offensive player I think his defense would step up I think D Venza would be a I mean the best six-man in the league if the Nicks are able to get him back and there is a lot of thought the Knicks can absolutely get back on D venzo Stephan Bondi did say he expects D venzo to be in a Knicks jersey before this contract is over I made an entire video on that you guys should definitely check it out it’s a fun one and I’m not just talking to uh Matt and dar I’m talking to the 60 viewers there if you guys like it the Nick digest World Chris is talking to the Nick D Nick Nick digest World Dario he got it out third time charm facts tongue twister kind of Matt are we playing Call of Duty later what’s the word I mean yes cuz there is a uh He Who Shall Not Be Named a small Italian gentleman fully grown fully grown but he’s short wants to play with us so but it’s got to be after there’s a college football playoff game starting 8:00 so that’s going to like 10:30 and then I got to be in bed by like probably 12 or 11:45 because I got to wake up at 5:00 a.m. tomorrow dude just don’t sleep CU your mom is gonna punish you if you don’t go to sleep at 11:45 or 12 no I am going to uh Penn State Playoff game tomorrow so I got to drive 4 and a half hours at like 6:00 a.m. tomorrow bro where is Penn State Pennsylvania it is in Pennsylvania okay Penn State dude where you might be able to guess by the name I don’t know man sometimes these colleges like I’m trying to think of one right now but I can’t but whatever next question yeah all all these colleges there’s like the whole one of them in Penn State I imagine all these colleges I I can’t think of one right now I can’t think of one col college no Dariel you were saying you couldn’t think of a college there’s there are some colleges their name is not where they are that’s what I meant that’s what I meant it’s like the Kansas City Chiefs are in Missouri Kansas city is in Missouri it’s not the chief’s fault I mean I blame the Chiefs Chiefs are bad at everything so they are they they just sucks so bad um D after they after week one uh the guy Isaiah likeley the guy whose foot was out of bounds he told the Chiefs good luck in the playoffs and people were saying bro telling the backtack Super Bowl champions good luck the playoffs is insane uh wait what’s up sorry I’m looking for a college just let you guys know look college you want me to name a is that your is that your PS5 Kon yeah Craton university is in Nebraska would you guys have ever thought of that yeah I would have never I never would have guess Nebraska CR Ryan C brener yo guys don’t know who that is gu where the University of Nebraska what do you guys think the Arkansas Razer play uh Nevada fville fville Arkansas oh all I know all I know is that douge mcder is the best creting player of all time he is he absolutely until Ryan cul brener who is that where do you think upen is 6 foot 10 right now 6′ 10 what freshman no he he’s a junior or senior uh Center 6 foot 10 Junior Center all right I’ll hop on you best player on the team right now yeah definitely tap in all right you March Madness Chris Chris what was the question where do you think youen is Pennsylvania that’s different that’s you penen pen State I should have got yes Penn State I should have Penn State I got I get it I definitely should have got that but I’m just I’m just saying there’s some colleges out there with their name I’m just like I wouldn’t still doesn’t mean that they’re going to be and obvious Marquette would you ever no wait Mar Marquette is in Wisconsin exactly milwauke Wisconsin my best friends on the planet went to Marquette would you think that Marquette is in Wisconsin no well I just said it I just said it was before you said it Matt before before I said something that I knew did I know that yes God Manhattan College is I guess Manhattan College is an Upstate New York the official playback is right that’s the one Manhattan College it’s just a four-way conversation right now between us and and Miss playback or official play back is it Manhattan University is that the green one in the city no it’s Manhattan College there’s uh there’s a few different two campuses col there’s a Fashion Institute of Technology that I live right nearby probably shouldn’t say that online um Yik too late now um Barnard is in the city oh no I’m thinking about Pace I’m sorry I’m sorry I’m sorry Columbia Pace University would you think that was in New York yeah yeah okay but you guys are from New York so it’s different give us yo Dariel know where Baylor is uh oh that’s a good one I is it it’s in Texas right somewhere it is in Texas it is in Texas dude I was so like no yeah I know yeah I mean it’s a little hard though because like upen and Penn State the name how about do you guys know the name in the name of the college I know man I’m trying to get a good equivalent but I’m just striking out right here anyway do you guys know where Sacred Heart University is Mars Upstate yeah nah it’s it’s it’s in Connecticut dude I went there I went there uh to Sacred Heart University dude I had the uh the strangest roommate of all time like like he act like like Dario like like I mean this guy was just downright absurd like like wasn’t it Matt yeah it was Matt oh okay I was just like this guy’s so weird dude he’s like literally on the screen I was like wait didn’t you guys go to college together yeah no he’s just making a joke yeah I I did have an interesting roommate in freshman year though that was not mat you guys you guys are roommates for three years uh yeah sophomore through the senior year cute that’s adorable yeah we we would hold hands and everything now we just do we got we got any comments here oh it’s just official payback official playback it’s it’s a four it’s a fourman show right now with the it’s not the official playback it’s payback Chris there’s no l in his name I have dyslexia apparently Chris is angsty tank your PS5 name yeah dude that’s me uh war zone or Black Ops 6 yeah we’re playing multiplayer Black Ops 6 yeah only only join our lobby only join our lobby if your KD is really low cuz we’re trying to I went the other day I don’t know what you’re talking about we’re trying to get some uh some really really we want to lower the the uh the overall like the skill-based matchmaking matches you up with players who are as good as you are so we want bad players used to model clothes at a club around the corner payback what club we’re about to end this thing also but now I need I was gonna say also payback I I want to see payback I want to see your uh your NBA IQ give me your uh top three top five NBA players I want to see where your heads at top five NBA players yeah currently once payback gives us that we’re gonna turn this thing off because I’ve drank in three white Claws and well I really need to pee take one for the team baby Darielle where’s St John piss my pants for the team the Johnny yeah OT Queens gets the money baby let’s go Queens love you shout out Chris are you gonna add him on Playstation absolutely where’s Yukon why not Yukon it’s a joke relax okay all I mean hey after the pen State debacle like I can’t trust anything that was just a bad moment bro that was just a bad moment it happens it happens it does happen to the best of us dude M remember that time when when we just like walked around Yale’s campus and I yes yes I do and yell nope I I I I did not do that FBI watching my computer I did not do that not did I that was completely alleged allegedly I completely alleged something that he brought up himself yeah no it’s it’s allegedly because I was obviously joking that didn’t happen but uh yeah this has been fun but we are going to top five all right he got it Jaylen Johson obviously first and of course cat and Anthony edts and LCA he’s correct that counts so is is that isn’t that four though yeah that’s four four the other one’s obviously Pome dude he’s the best no no no right no no all jokes aside it’s Jericho Sims uh swits City definitely just jumped in here and asked who are the Knicks getting I mean I think it’s going to be Nick Richards in all fairness I really do think Nick Richards is going to end up as a Nick let’s let’s close this out by actually talking about the thing that we talk about or we’re supposed to talk about um um and one more Steph Curry you know what I’ll give it to him but um payback I’m disappointed bro I just like payback like that’s the homie so like I’m disappointed I I would imagine if the Knicks make a trade this season which I fully expect them to I think it actually will be precious toua for Nick Richards like I fully expect that to be the trade the Knicks make the Knicks want to move precious because they’re not going to resign him in the off season so it makes more sense just trade him and get something back for him the Knicks want Mitchell Robinson Insurance in case he doesn’t come back at 100% And just doesn’t look like the same player or if he comes back and gets injured again the Knicks want another true Center who they know is Battle tested so they’re going to go for a guy like a Nick Richards who they know can handle himself they do that that would make a ton of sense for the New York Knicks to go out there acquire a guy like Nick Richards great on offense rolls off screens well excellent shot blocker can clearly has another level to his defense that he can reach because his great athleticism offensive rebounds are really really good he’s a great knack for finding the ball I think Nick Richards is the perfect guy to join the Knicks also does not hurt that he’s a New Yorker grew up a Knicks fan you know he’ll give his all to the team I think that’s their guy personally yeah I know that’ll be dope I like Nick Richards I like his game well Matt and I or Matt and Dariel just uh gave very energized responses to that so no no because I I was trying to I was I was gonna I was going to counter with something completely ridiculous I was going to say something like oh I think we’re going to trade for Zion but that’s actually a little bit too realistic right now so I’m not going to say that realistic what what do you mean realistic well because Zion’s apparently on the trade block now well he is but like that’s I understand the Knicks have zero interest in him but that literally sounds like a Clippers move L it does sound like a Clippers move you’re right um Larry and NS does play with passion as payback said and look I I’d be more interested in the Larry and ANS dealing if it wasn’t gonna have to include Mitch to make the finances work that’s the real problem there cuz yeah you could probably make it work if you throw a few players together but the Knicks only have so much money to go into to sign and get a 15 man rotation they only have 14 right now and they don’t have any money left over they’re going to have to wave Matt Ryan who’s not on a guaranteed contract to sign Landry sham oh no we’re gonna have to wave Matt Ryan I know to go backs right get him out of here bro come on man New York sounding get him out of here ever I was going to say we need to Dariel needs to be hired by the Knicks to just tell people that they’ve been cut by the team traded Dar Money Ball when Jonah Hill learns how to tell people how to how that they’ve been traded or something it’s like it’s like that’s what Darielle just shows up for he just tells you like yeah you’ve been traded to the Clippers really why I thought my production was good Jericho your production was terrible and we think you keep Gage precious we trade to the Hornets cuz I cannot see you catch a ball it’s terrible that would be fun show up for that by the way Dari ‘s wordss not mine listen I’m just I keep it real they need they need some of that New York energy and I’m going keep it real Keep It Funky walk into the walk into the meetings and until Coach tibs you need to the you need to be able to give your players confidence not take it away I actually I mean yeah but I think some people gain confidence through tips I think it just shows who’s made to be coached by a hard knows guy like that and who isn’t and problem I would tell him I would tell coach to stop playing players 48 minutes in December that’ll be the first thing I’ll everyone everyone agrees with you what is it to get the balloons the PE signs right because we’re on Zoom right now I’m trying to get some balloons up in here I think it’s a thumbs up oh actually no the thumbs up is gonna give me a thumbs up yeah yeah I think it is a sign this is my favorite app there it is leave some likes Down Below guys if you guys have enjoyed this absolutely on topic stream as always um we always stay on topic but look I will say I think Nick Richards brings the perfect energy to the team to closes out and actually talk with the Knicks a little bit more first of all if you’re watching this after the stream ended like if you went back and watched this and stuck through it you are the best but look to end it out and talk about the Knicks for a few seconds um I think Nick Richards brings everything the Nicks need I I think I think he solves basically every problem outside of what someone commented earlier that the Knicks could use a forward who would score the ball they could use that it’s going to be tough to find they could stagger their rotation in order to kind of solve that problem I think I imagine that’s what they’ll do but Nick Richards solves the bulk of their problems I appreciate it Iris you know you’re one of my favorite one of my favorite viewers on the channel we’ll out every Friday except for probably next Friday because it’s going to be two days after Christmas so I do not know well maybe what if one of you wants to do it but I’m probably not going to be here next Friday I have some holiday stuff to get up to but we’ll definitely uh we’ll definitely be back the following one every Friday come crack open a drink or three like I did or don’t just come and hang out and talk about sports with us it’s always fun we love hearing the comments that’s that’s what I feel like happy hours should be it should be like yeah obviously we focus on the Nicks to be to begin but then I also feel like we should talk about the league as a as a whole because obviously we just focus on the Knicks but there’s a lot of stuff going on around the around around the league talk about like contenders and teams that are just like failing I imagine I’ve told you this obviously you weren’t on the first like four I think episod of happy hour but like when Matt and I started doing this it’s essentially like the way that I’ve described it is it’s bar talk it’s like you’re sitting with someone in a bar talking about the Knicks you’re sitting in a someone with a bar talking about basketball it’s that like it’s just that like casual Vibe of like we’re talking about sports we all know what we’re talking about it’s a fun time like that was really the that was really the goal when we came into this bet bro if yall do a Nick’s happy hour it it would be litty we look hope you go you guys go live on Christmas Day I do not think I’ll be in my apartment on Christmas Day I usually am not I’m usually with family if I’m around I know I can go live watch party Christmas watch party can you imagine how like that would be sick but my my my family would be mad at me that would be sick would not be thrilled I sick though 12:00 p.m. on Christmas morning run that my family is a party on uh Christmas Eve so I’ll I’ll wake up sick invite thanks Chris thought we’re boys oh this is an interesting uh cultural question come to my grandma’s this is an interesting cultural question when do you guys celebrate Christmas Christmas Eve or Christmas both both oh both wait Chris and Matt you guys said both said both look that yeah interesting yeah Latinos we celebrate on Christmas Eve really yeah shout out to my family if you guys uh if you guys are watching this but yeah Latinos we celebrate Christmas Eve I can’t see in the camera I’m watching the zoom I’m not watching The Stream So I uh I’m I’m I’m struggling right your best then look guys trying to get everybody put out yeah we’ll try to run run um I celebrate it at tax time that that’s a good one especially since your name is payback but yeah we’re going to check out because it’s 7:30 happy hour well every Friday come on come out let’s have some fun let’s talk about sports let’s make fun of apparently me and darel’s appearances also Matt he did say something about you he said you’re check in your phone it it was kind of weak though it was kind of weak yeah it wasn’t as good dude it felt kind of it felt forced it also doesn’t make any sense cuz I’m 23 so it didn’t make any sense yeah but uh no M mine was great imagine I just pulled the green screen away it’s just that would that oh my just white nationalist propaganda that was phenomenal darel I thought darel’s was a little bit mean like I thought that one was too far it’s all right man you don’t really hate coms Stones baby they they get to me more than they get to you like like hey once in a while I’ll see a hate comment on on like next side just like damn got it that’s a good that’s a great topic we could dive into another day the internet great topic Bro internet is not real bro just this how you Cy turn your computer and Nick’s digest and I’m just going to scroll through the the blocked out comments and just and just we’re just going to respond to hate online because you said live yeah that would be sick I think that that’s what we’re doing next happy hour so you guys might want to grab a drink for that one Dariel screw the haters facts who gives a [ __ ] um yeah I I don’t have white nationalist propaganda behind me um obviously Chris so tomorrow tomorrow at Pence day is the white out and me and my brother are wearing this over here oh my God oh my God it’s James it’s going to be amazing I I did not expect to see James at all especially in that outfit looking like Walter White bro dude yeah that’s what it is that’s pretty much what it is there well guys hope you enjoyed um yeah they just saw they just saw James step in that’s pretty great did you text him and come tell him to do that no he just so I I’m in like my living room the doors are closed so it’s it’s quieter for me in here you know stop the sounds he walks past the door just stands out front wearing that that’s like emotion INE I’m like this will be so funny very just stand in front of the camera but yeah um look guys thank you so much for tuning in like subscribe turn on post notifications as usual just realize I brought the comments up while we’re still streaming my bad guys as always see you in the next one have a great
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