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e e e e e welcome in to transfer portal paloa look at these fun guys we have in studio we’ll continue to rotate but I’ll introduce you to them now this is Cooper pagna Brandon Huffman I am Emily proud and we’ll be hanging with you all day long on the 247 Sports X Channel Twitter if you prefer to still call it that also on YouTube we will be reacting to the news that comes in sometimes we’ll be breaking it that’s what we have our news breakers for who will introduce you to in just a a little bit but uh let’s start with just general thoughts guys what are we expecting to see today C well what’s interesting to me you had six five stars last year in the portal and then obviously Nick Sabin stepping down that kind of started a domino effect right now the highest grade we have number one player in the portal princewell uman Mellen has one sack and a half over the last two years so we’ll get into that a little bit later but uh just in terms of where these guys project I I think when you go through the top 10 none of these guys are really unblemished right whether it’s indust uh injuries whether it’s football character concerns uh there is a reason why these guys are back on the market not to say that you can’t tap into it get some really good players uh but it’s going to be interesting to kind of see how the rest of it plays out last year we had Kyle mcord go to the portal before we even started the show and that was kind of the big you know shock wave that we had to to start I don’t think we’re going to see as many big names maybe it’s the expansion of the playoffs but I think you’re going to see a lot more names going today not just from a standpoint of the portals getting happening but it’s the roster pairing down going down to 105 a lot of those Walk-Ons a lot of those guys that are on the back end of the roster they’re going to be putting their name in today after they’ve had their exit interviews over the last week and essentially being told you know what you should start looking at all your options so I think we’re going to see a lot of names but maybe not the earthquake moving type that we saw a year ago yeah and we’ll uh we’ll explain to you how the portal ranking system works but I’ll tell you right now we don’t have any five stars in the portal right now so when you talk about not seeing that Talent quite yet things could Contin continue to trickle out throughout the day but this is just day one of the winter window opening and we have such a treat having Cooper pagna in studio because he is a part of the rankings team with the portal so if we get breaking news when it comes to specific players hopping in he can give us kind of an idea of where that player will Rank and of course we’ll talk to our newsbreakers about where that player could go and for that let’s go ahead and welcome in Matt zenet and Chris Hummer who will be on their phones all day long but they’re taking a pause to talk to us here guys let’s just start off with what we’re tracking right now Matt zenet kick us off probably one of the biggest storylines of the day so far has been uh Eric Singleton receiver from Georgia Tech hitting the portal um that there was a chance of that happening last year that this past off season ultimately Georgia Tech was able to hang on to him uh but was not fortunate enough to do so this go around so Eric goes into the portal today and as I’m sure Chris will agree with that there will be a significant significant market for Eric and immediately becomes one of the the top players available in the portal yeah I agree I think Eric Singleton is somebody that college football Personnel staffers and coaches have wished would go on the portal for about a year now um this is something we were both tracking behind the scenes today but it is a little bit of a surprise to be frank and I think he’s going to be extremely extremely popular um I think Cooper pagna has a ranking uh for him ready to go but I think Eric’s going to be one of the top wide receivers in the portal in terms of demand and certainly very interested to see where he ends up I think a place like Taxas are Old Miss would make a lot of sense and Chris I want to ask this question to you specifically you’ve got a great story out on 247sports.com talking to some power for personnel people just across the country in terms of what they expect what do you expect we’re going to see today well the quote I like to use is it’s a I can’t say the word on there I guess it’s a uh it’s G to be a weird show I guess all around it’s going to be a day um we’ve already had more entrance today in the portal than we did at the first day last year for the entire like day one of the winter window and it’s just 12 Eastern we’re already at 550 plus and I think the condensed Windows is going to make this really hectic but at the same time I don’t know if we’re going to see maybe outside of Eric Singleton that many bombs this year I think rev sharing is playing a part in this uh teams are a little more easy more able to keep their best players in their roster so it’s going to be an interesting cycle I’ll follow up on that real quick so Eric Singleton obviously have on the offensive side of the ball wa one of the other more notable entries so far today on the defensive side of the ball has been Jaylen strowman at Virginia teag so it’s been a standout safety there at Virginia teag entered the season viewed by NFL Scouts as a legitimate possibility to go in the first three rounds of the the 2025 draft and unfortunately for him ended up dealing with injuries this year preventing prevented him from having the type of year that I I’m sure wanted to have and now ultimately he hits the portal and is going to be highly coveted as a free agent safety and just to piggyback off that actually some interesting developments non-portal wise so something that it heard about throughout the course of the morning and just posted about for us is that Florida star defensive lineing Caleb Banks who had put himself in position speaking of the NFL draft to potentially go with some point in the first couple rounds uh was legitimately regarded by NFL person person as an early round draft possibility he informed Florida coaching staff this morning that instead of leaving for the NFL he’s going to be returning to Gainesville for another season which is huge huge news for Billy Napier in Florida and not just huge because Caleb 66 325 it’s huge all around you guys will continue to track all the huge news of the day we do appreciate you we’ll continue to check in throughout the afternoon as things continue to come out let’s go back here in studio and uh remind you a few things that are happening today first off this is day one of the winter window opening it will stay open until December 28th there’s of course a lot of uh stipulations that come with that grad transfers can enter whenever they want there’s of course the teams that are playing in the postseason they will have a five-day window after their final game to enter the portal um but just a reminder too when it comes to this portal this is just for entering we’ll continue to see players commit after that December 28th window closes but this is all about about hopping in the portal then you have time to take visits and figure out where you’re headed next after that also we have a special deal going on you can use the promo code portal on 247sports.com to get an annual VIP membership and the special part of this deal it’s 60% off but you can only use it while we are live and we’ll be live all afternoon so you will have some time to do it but go ahead and take advantage when you get the chance also we would love to hear your questions answer your questions so you can use the hashtag portal paloo on X to submit questions uh if you want to find a specific tweet to respond to we have a pinned one at the top of the page that you can go ahead and get to but let’s explain to you how the portal grading system works we’re going to be throwing out a lot of numbers to you um and I feel like we’ve done a really good job of educating everyone on how things work on Signing Day which was earlier this week on Wednesday people know what a five star is and what a four- star is and how that translates to the NFL draft but when it comes to the portal in particular Cooper I’m going to start with you here can you lay out what these grades exactly mean as it translates to what we’re used to seeing which is the star ranking sure it’s it’s not an exact science you know I was talking with the portal team Derek chain Clint Brewster we’re trying to figure this out and right when you think you have it pinned in terms of weighing production versus projection you go down the line and then there’s some guys that haven’t played much that have flashed a little bit so you kind of have to move things around be flexible with the way that you grade guys but in terms of the rating starting with the grading scale 100 through 98 going to be pretty similar to how we View high school players so those are going to be the five star guys I mentioned that we don’t have anybody there right now last year we had guys like Caleb DS we had Kayton Proctor those type of names the instant impact All-American All Conference type of players would be there 95 rating is going to be what we project as a day2 NFL draft choice uh in 95 to 94 would be round two round three day three would be 93 to 90 so that’s kind of the way that we see these guys and I and I kind of want to Circle back on princewell uman Mellen who is a former top 247 standout a guy that really kind of blossomed late in the recruiting process the brother of princely umami Ellen who’s a starting Edge rusher at Old Miss and a guy that could go day one potentially day two it’s pretty interesting because I mentioned the lack of production but you turn them the tape impacts the game in a lot of different ways so managing the eligibility that they have left uh versus some guys that maybe only have one year left versus guys that maybe have two to three I think that’s kind of where the complexity comes into it and then the way that we balance that is in terms of okay what is the production that they have the projection to the NFL and then you know a part of that is going to be at the level of comp uh and then the timeline of Peak Performance as well so a little bit of uh all of that baked into the cake uh some we weigh more than others um you know but our our guys have done a really good job of kind of baking into uh an algorithm of sorts but subjectively at the end of the day us getting our eyes on all these guys and that’s really going to be the thing at the end of the day how we’re going to decide where these guys are going to be ranked because there’s so many things that you have to weigh when it comes to the college game and I know you do a little bit of this when you’re projecting for college um and of course all those projections are leaning towards the NFL but we have to look at different levels of college football that some of these players are playing we’ll talk about some of um the underrated gems that you will find in the FCS levels or division two but there’s also how much production that they’ve been able to do you mentioned the the number one player with a sack and a half there’s so many things that you have to kind of take into consideration um I’m curious from your perspective Huff because you know you do a lot when it comes to the recruiting process and and these high school prospects how do you view this differently when you’re grading a portal player versus somebody coming out of high school and all we have is what they’ve done in high school sure and that’s the thing like when you’re looking at from a high school vantage point a lot of it is projection much of it is pro projection it’s not so much the production that does help obviously you want them to be gu that are actually making an impact on games on Friday nights but this level you know it’s you could have a guy that’s been a three or foure backup hasn’t done anything you can’t then go back to well when we he was a senior in high school we projected him to be good maybe he’s stuck in a traffic jam maybe there’s a lot of guys at that position ahead of him that were more talented that are playing maybe he just wasn’t talented enough the projection you know we C I talk about this morning there’s been a couple of guys that you did make a projection on maybe they were a little bit on the slider end of things coming out of high school they had the Great Frame that you thought okay get into a college weight program they’re going to put the weight on then they don’t see the field for two three years so now that projection we’re in year three now the projection has not hit are they going to hit a late kind of late College surge they could but you haven’t seen any production so now the projection is essentially off the table the later in process that you transfer later in your college career and that’s why you’re seeing a lot more FCS guys getting those early attention now granted a lot of these guys had an extra week you know the Ivy League schools they got done with their season two three weeks ago so a lot of those ivy league guys that didn’t R have a reg year available they graduate they go into the portal quickly they’re immediately getting offers coming in you’re seeing a lot more FCS guys because they’ve got the film they were producing at the FCS level and so like what coopa saying you know a lot of it is the competition level they will factor that into the ranking but now you’ve got two or three years of production so now it’s not so much a projection when they get to college is can they make that transition from the FCS level for you know for every Jared verse and cam Ward there’s going to be a Dakota prup who made the move from Montana to Oregon never saw the field didn’t hurt that you know didn’t help him that Justin Herbert was also there but for all the FCS success stories you’re going to have guys that that jump was too big so you’ve got to factor that in but now these guys have two or three years of film on that they can now refer to that the coaches can say hey this guy’s really killing it at that level he can play at this level we’re not making a projection in terms of what his body can become in two or three years we’re making the pred prediction that his body can handle that move from FCS to FBS and a word that we hear a lot too around NFL draft time is system too it’s the system that he’s walking into and so when we see these guys um continually transfer and head to different places that’s something that we factor in is he might have been put in a better situation at Team a as opposed to Team B um speaking of potentially making that jump up to the power four level I want to get to this real quick UAB quarterback Jacob Zeno is expected to visit Texas A&M on Monday sources tell 247 Sports uh Chris Hummer and Matt zenet just some stats about him nearly 5,000 passing yards in his career career he started allive last year played at uh he played in just four games this season though due to injury and the agies are expected to pursue an older quarterback with experience to add of their quarterback room that already has Marcel Reed in there we know Connor wigman is um in the transfer portal and he is somebody that is transferring out what do you think about this potential connection with Zeno making that jump to an A&M I like it he’s he’s a talented kid you mentioned only played in four games for UAB this year who struggled on the field but when you watch him you understand why Texas S&M is going to bring him in because right now the name that you mentioned the top quarterback on our board is Conor wigman who we have as a rating as a 91 so essentially late day three uh NFL draft choice was a guy that we had rated as a festar I want to bring that back because Marcel Reed I think when Texas St M looks at the market they would be one of those teams that would want to go in there and maybe try to upgrade that position now have they seen enough from Marcel Reed yes now what does that room look like right you talk about the departure of a Conor wigman they need to go out get an established name I think this is is a depth move if uh Jacob Zeno does end up signing with the agies but a guy that gives you a little bit of experience if the Marcel Reed experiment does not work out I think you got a plan B there but this is a guy that should create a little bit of competition I still expect Marcel Reed to be the guy what do we think about strategy in terms of building your quarterback room I mean it’s very specific that the agies are expected to add in somebody with experience clearly Jacob Zeno is a guy with plenty of experience what do you think huff about the strategy of when you’re trying to put your back room together to not just say okay we want good players but let’s bring in some experience too to pair with maybe a younger QB yeah I mean I think you look at Washington you know Washington this last off season before kayin deor made the move to Alabama they brought will how sorry Will Rogers in with the expectation Michael penx is graduating they had lost a couple of quarterbacks to transfer they had Austin Mack who had reclassified so he had you know he was essentially a senior in high school when he was a freshman so they were going to bring Will Rogers in to essentially become kind of that one-year stop Gap you don’t want to bring a portal guy in that might scare away the next guy if he’s a sophomore or a junior but with a true freshman at the time it’s not as big of a risk so schools do have to weigh that they have to weigh if we bring in this transfer quarterback is he going to scare off the highly touted incoming freshman we have we saw that with Nebraska last year remember when Kyle McCord went into the portal there was a lot of Buzz he was going to go to Nebraska well at that same time they were still working on trying to flip Dylan Rola to Nebraska Kord ends up at Syracuse and I think it worked out well for all parties but that is the one con that you have to wait is this going to hurt our recruitment of this guy and now with the portal being after signing day now you’ve got your quarterback in now you can kind of go back to the portal but unlike last year where you don’t have as many High names maybe that philosophy is changing but that that’s certainly something that you have to and you don’t want to bring in too many quarterbacks in the portal because does that now make your room crowded and those guys are trying to get out of their letters of intent or whatever they’re signing now that financial aid agreements but it’s certainly a calculated risk that these coaches are it seems to be working for Ohio State they can build that room uh Dan Lon got a lot of credit for doing that with Dante Moore and Dylan Gabriel bringing in um I know that this is something that you track constantly Cooper when it comes to roster building what do you think about the strategy behind building your QB room yeah very difficult like you said it’s a it’s a delicate balance of who you’re bringing in I think with Texas S&M the other thing that you have to remember the college football playoff race what happens if Georgia doesn’t win that game they’re a three lost team we don’t know what uh the injury status of Carson Beck is right and I think if you were to go back and you look at the predent that the college football playoff committee set just a year ago before when Jordan Travis went down it was Brock Lynn who had a step up what does that look like right so having a backup that you feel confident in that has experience how that really kind of bakes into the cake of the college football playoff experiment as well I think that’s something to consider and then with Oregon you know that’s a very very different situation uh when you think about Dante Moore who was committed to the Ducks ultimately ended up at UCA had an up and down season with the Bruins in year one under Chip Kelly goes back to Oregon via the portal then they bring in Austin novasat then they bring in jiren kave sangapu lell I mean this is a incredibly talented room that being said I think in a perfect world Oregon all these teams would love to have that type of situation where they can carry four quarterbacks especially with that Elite of talent ultimately at the end of the day those guys are too good uh I would I would say the math doesn’t work out one of those guys probably going to leave so uh but if you’re Oregon why wouldn’t you do that right that’s an embarrassment of riches you know and there’s a fascinating tweet day somebody talked about the Jaden Rashad of Buffalo or butterfly effect and you know had he gone to Miami where he was originally committed do they get Cam Ward A year later does he stick with Florida do they get DJ lague but two of the teams in the playoffs are Georgia and Arizona State he’s at Georgia Carson Beck goes down the other day and gunar Stockton goes in not Jaden rash but the one that’s the most fascinating is Arizona State they bring Sam levit in in the offseason out of the portal Jaden Rashad started the beginning of the year ended up being injured but started down the stretch so you would think with Kenny Dillingham having recruited him at Oregon he brings him rash he’s a true freshman starter from the opening game that he’s going to be the guy and that’s what we talk about like sometimes you have to manage that well they bring Sam levit in out of the portal all of a sudden rashada goes into the portal a few months later and Sam levit has him in the playoffs winning the Big 12 and so even when you’re bringing in a guy in the same class you know Rashad was rated much higher than levit was in the 2023 quarterback class but once Lev gets there now it becomes clear hey you know what we’re not bringing in a fifth year senior that might just be a one-year stop Gap to make sure you’re healthy it’s we’re bringing in a guy who’s in the same class as you that’s going to compete for starting job and you know Rashad doesn’t see the field on Saturday Sam levit that morning is leading Arizona State to a playoff spot in a first round by so it’s fascinating to see how just even that kind of played out and now how Arizona State you know greatly benefited from Sam Lev and the only reason he went into the portal is he was committed to Michigan State Jonathan Smith takes the job Oregon State never recruited Sam levit they recruited Aiden child did make happy not at all I’m not playing for this and he was very clear about it too they didn’t like me in high school why should I like them in college and you know Aiden Charles comes in he is the guy at Michigan State but the Sam levit move essentially changed the entire Fortune of Arizona State football and we’ll talk about more then later about how they built this team from the portal but just the the significant impact in Oregon knows how to manage it with Dante Moore you’re going to come in we got the younger quarterbacks we’ve got Dylan Gabriel coming in but Georgia has Rotan we didn’t even see them on Saturday well that’s what’s so interesting is pulling on all these threads and it’s all kind of somewhat connected and we saw this on on Signing Day when it comes to these quarterback dominoes and and what ended up happen at USC well that somewhat you know propelled Miller Moss to hit the transfer portal um from USC after playing there for for a couple of seasons and it sounds like he is going to visit mizou what do you think about that possible marriage you know I think you look at what Kirby Moore has done the last couple of years when he was the offense coordinator at Fresno State um obviously had great success there you know working with kayin dor and then becoming the offense coordinator under Jeff Tedford H for a year so I I you know I think that that’s a good fit I’ve also heard Louisville is another one that’s been prominently mentioned but I think he goes somewhere where it’s not so much a pressure cooker job you know and I think he’s going to go somewhere where he’s going to have the chance to come in and play we’ve seen what Miller Moss can do yeah was he really the difference in USC being six- six and maybe 8 and4 9 and3 probably not they had other issues but I I think that you know Miller just needs to be in a place where he’s get gets a little bit more of a little more stream to work with and I think he would be a great fit at Missouri and I think Kirby Moore has done a fantastic job with his quarterback development at the previous two stops he’s been so that would be a really good fit but that’s one thing about the portals you see some of these quarterbacks that go in that they leave these programs then they just need to find fit at that point what’s the best fit and like you said the system what’s the best system this is my last chance I need that one-year audition for the NFL this might be it I like the fit at Louisville you know uh Jeff bram’s done a tremendous job you think about the quarterbacks that he’s brought in Tyler shuck was a guy that we recruited at Oregon I don’t want to say left for dead um you know coming from Texas Tech but gets him in that system Louisville has another really productive year the year before that Jack plumber so you’re looking at these kind of like tier one priority free agent types and I think Miller Moss is kind of in that conversation I think best case scenario probably late uh late day three NFL draft choice but I think more than likely kind of like a priority free agent system guy and I think that system kind of sets up for him perfectly what Jeff Brown wants to do it’s a win now approach in the ACC they are very very transfer portal heavy but I love to fit there especially playing for a guy that played the position and what Louisville’s done over the last two years he’s got a little bit of a track record a little bit of a track record I would say yes and uh a very active team when it comes to the transfer portal if you are just now tuning in watching us live again we’ll be here all throughout the afternoon as news breaks we’ll bring it to you we’ll react to it but if you happen to miss anything we’re clipping off a lot of this and putting it on our 247 Sports YouTube page also for the rest of the transfer portal there will continually be things happening um and you can find it all on the 247 Sports YouTube channel a name guys that uh we’ve heard once or twice associated with the transfer portal is Our Friend Bear Alexander well we’re already talking about USC we might as well mention him uh it sounds like according to our own Mike roach she is lining up visits to Oregon and Penn State SMU is trying to bring him in for a visit as they uh prepare for the college football playoff um but roach thinks that Alexander is also interested in Texas Colorado or even a return to Georgia I think I named about 12 teams there so Cooper when I throw all that out at you what what sticks when it comes to a potential fit for him well this would be his third program that’s what sticks out I mean the biggest thing is um your best ability is availability and for be Alexander you know that’s been a little bit of an Achilles heel towards his game but you talk about a guy that can do a lot of different things this is why he was really highly touted coming out but he’s long he’s athletic he’s positioned versatile you can play him off the edge you can play him inside um these big guys they continue to get a chance and right now for these teams you got to look at it this way this is a one-year rental so so this makes a lot of sense um they’re going to get him at a cheaper price than they would have when he entered the market just a couple years ago when he was leaving Georgia and they’re going to say to him bear Alexander you have one chance to get this right because you know the NFL views you as a lens as a early day two kind of NFL draft choice this guy could go in the second or the third he’s got that type of ability but right now he’s day three because of the football character and the character concerns he hasn’t been able to stay on the field the one that makes a lot of sense to me Dan Lanning obviously coming over from Georgia Oregon makes a lot of sense Georgia makes sense and if I was be Alexander I’d be looking to team up back with Kirby Smart because they’ve been missing that guy we’ve talked about it on Signing Day with Elijah Griffin who they signed but there’s no Jaylen Carter there’s no Jordan Davis and they’ve been swimming in rarified air there in terms of the type of talent that they’ve been able to uh to bring back in but you talk about a guy that would then not have to acclimate to another culture he’s already been there so he knows the standard he knows the expectation if I was in be Alexander’s corner would say Hey listen there’s nobody better in the country than developing defensive lineman than Kirby Smart you can look at that over the last couple years this is the place that you should go to rehab not only yourself as a player but as a person uh this is where you got to get right so I think Georgia makes sense I think all those schools you would understand why they’re in it and quite honestly this would be a guy that would probably have a 94 95 grade but with the concerns we’ll slide him down to a 92 it’s like do I want to be attached to a guy that’s on his third School in however many years um but the ability is there there’s no question about the ability he’s got to get right on the field what’s fascinating too is that if you play a premium position we’ll look past all the transfers we’ll look past that because you might just be that one position that we need to be the difference between a playoff team and a championship team and keep in mind too we see this every year with regular recruiting every coach thinks that he’s Picasso and can turn that blank canvas into a masterpiece and yeah we can be the ones that fix them I know he had issues with this school at that school but we’re going to be the ones that are going to fix them sometimes it hits sometimes it doesn’t sometimes they kind of laps into what they’ve been but from a talent standpoint from a premium position standpoint from like C said an availability standpoint that’s why Barry Alexander that’s why you Nam 12 schools that’s why you’re able to list off all those schools that are interested in him because he’s a talented player at a premium position that they can look back look past all the bouncing around and it’s not just with the third school I mean there was a history of that in high school four high schools in four years mean that’s what I was going to say is it it’s hard to look down on a player for transferring multiple times when we see it so frequently um but yeah the the bringing in the baggage and believing that you can fix it sounds a little bit uh like dating you yes I can fix them I know that he’s got all this coming back but um let’s talk about just overall this transfer portal Market this year uh we’ve already mentioned rev share that’s something that’s going to be continually mentioned throughout the show because it is going to affect the way um that you build your roster because as a reminder as part of the house settlement if it goes into effect we’ll go from 85 scholarships to 105 and the roster size will go from 120 or excuse me from yes to 120 um no from 120 to 105 there’s a lot of numbers here and then of course working with that potential $20 million budget when it comes to officially figuring out what that rev share looks like so this will affect the way that you bring in transfers but how is that already affecting the way that they’re doing it this time around because it hasn’t technically gone into effect yet Coupe but are you seeing coaches and staffs already take that into consideration I think teams are are getting smarter I think teams are evolving uh so I think the biggest thing is is just playing roster defense right we talked about it earlier in the day today is is day one of the transfer portal opening and right now the biggest name in there in terms of what we’ve had this morning is Eric Singleton all be a really really good player talented player but you think about last year what this kind of looked like I talk about the six five star so I think teams are ready for a little bit of structure a little bit of organization knowing the pot of money that they have available then nil becomes a little bit of an extra arm right we’re talking about more signing bonuses now right this is becoming more and more of an NFL type model I mean I was talking to some people on the agency side of it had some coaches reach out to them about hey do you know any cap guys right and people people laugh at the idea of Bill bich uh potentially ending up at a place like North Carolina in Chapel Hill but if you’re bellich he’s probably got a little bit more exposure to some of the things that are coming down the pipe in college football than maybe some of these college coaches in the way that it’s going to be structured so I find it fascinating over the next three I by the 2027 2028 we’ll have cap experts in college football and that will just be normal yeah look at Stanford hiring Andrew Luck to come back as their general manager and not just to be like hey we’re going to do big recruiting weekend we’re going to have some official visits it’s like essentially you’re running seeing coaches and staff like yeah he’s running he’s going be telling try Taylor hey we need to make a position change here we need to do that and I think you’re going to see more schools it’s it’s ironic in a sense that Stanford is probably one of the schools that does the nil game the least and does the portal probably the least but does that change their philosophy moving forward with Andrew luck in there and again I think you’re going to see like C said more schools going to that kind of model and I think you’re seeing I mean we with a lot of the verbiage that was being you know kind of explained with signing day last week where hey we’re expecting the house settlement to come to fruition in 2025 but you know we’re protecting ourselves just in case I think that that has completely changed how schools are addressing the portal this year because the demands are higher all right we got to cut in with some breaking news North Texas quarterback Chandler Morris is hitting the portal if you recognize that name it’s because he also used to play at Oklahoma and TCU at one point coupall toss to you what do you expect his Market to look like well I don’t know I got to dive into them you know that’s kind of the the part of the process yeah a little bit reactionary here but you know I think a guy spread offense quick release obviously I got to I got to dive into the tape a little bit more but the quarterback position is super interesting when you look at at it uh just in terms of the arms uh that we have there and I know we’re going to talk about that a little bit later but like Matthew sluka Justin Martin you know some of these guys Anthony kandria guys that have played a lot of ball then you have some young guys like Ricky Collins Marcus Devilla that were highly rated coming out that haven’t played a lot of football so at the top of the show we talked about all right how do we balance projection versus production and those type of things Chandler Morris uh is in the lad of that conversation we’ve seen this guy play some football obviously at North Texas I’m excited to get in the tape and kind of see where he ends up yeah just some stats from the last season 314 .5 passing yards per game that’s fifth in FBS so definitely some production out on the field 31 passing touchdowns he had a 31 to 12 touchdown to interception ratio Huff what’s your take on uh how Chandler Morris will be viewed in the portal well you know it’s fascinating I mean we were we’re not far removed I I guess we are far removed when his transfer from Oklahoma to TCU was a miss a bunch of controversy because Lincoln Riley did not want to allow to be able to play right away and that was an ERA when Lincoln rley was still at Oklahoma trying to recruit Texas now you have the son of a former Texas high school football coach and was this going to hurt Lincoln Riley in recruiting the state of Texas I mean that’s so long ago that he was at Oklahoma but you know again you start looking at quarterbacks that are now and we saw it with JT Daniels a year ago two years ago where he went into the portal after leaving USC and ended up at you know West Virginia then it was West Virginia to Riot and I’m probably missing a school in there uh pit may may have been in there but but it was one of those where like by the time you get to the fourth or fifth transfer in this case it would only be his third you know are you that stop it’s not like a Dyan Gabriel situation when Dylan Gabriel left UCF to go to Oklahoma there was a lot of reason for that you had Jeff leby coming in as the head as the office coordinator it made sense but then him leaving Oklahoma was not necessarily of his own fruition it’s we’ve got this young guy in Jackson we want to turn it over to him Oregon said we’ll gladly take Dylan Gabriel and now than number one team in the country and Oklahoma went six and six Jackson Arnold’s no longer there so sometimes you have guys at third or fourth school they’re there for a talent upgrade at that position the school says this guy’s produced every who’s been then you have others like it just hasn’t hit for you at any of these three schools so maybe it’s starting to become a you thing and maybe you’re just not necessarily worth the guy that we want to bring in we’ll go get somebody a little bit younger do we think um so we saw him at Oklahoma and TCU and then North Texas do you think he’s got enough to jump back into the power four what do you think yeah yeah no I think it’s it’s you know we live in the world especially where it’s like you know we talked about uh Oklahoma to TCU to North Texas to see the path now you got to go prove yourself right uh so now you’re looking at one of these guys just kind of a mercenary at the quarterback position but I think if you’re a a first year head coach in the power four and you’re looking for a little bit of consistency a little bit of steadiness uh and we talked about The Balancing Act of when it comes to quarterbacks I think Chandler Morris is kind of one of those names that kind of um you know what pop into the conversation and saying okay somebody we could ride with at least for a rental for one year all right we’ve got some more breaking news here on transfer Portal paloa Georgia wide receiver Nitro Tuggle is entering the transfer portal that is according to his own social media Coop you just scouted this guy he is a freshman uh he was a top 247 player for us last season what do you expect his Market to look like now that he’s available again yeah we’ll see you know Georgia is a pretty fascinating place if you want to study receivers a lot of their production comes via the transfer portal Kobe young who they brought in uh from Miami big X receiver had some off the field trouble you think about Dominic lit as well London humph they bring in from Vandy Dylan Bell really one of those sole guys that they recruited that’s kind of producing for him so Nitro Tule was going to be one of those guys that they were hoping was going to pan out and the guy that we had as a top 130 uh Prospect coming out we’ll have one of those kind of higher tier PFA grades with the 88 rating as where we’re going to uh put him and you think about the receiver position here I mean we have about 26 guys with what we call like winnable grades okay so guys that have a 85 rating or higher guys that can uh go and help a program out if you need a receiver receiver you know we used to call a Washington Diamond dozen right you can find these guys uh so Nitro Tule one of those guys back on the market just a year ago like I said top 150 Prospect basketball background we like a lot I think we’ll have a strong Market um but people are going to gravitate to production first so we’ll see what happens with him yeah speaking of production he had just three catches this year um but this is again somebody that you saw a lot of potential in coming out of high school and is barely a college player having just played one season so um definitely will be some excitement for him as he enters the portal Nitro Tuggle the Georgia wide receiver after one season has hit the transfer portal hey a reminder that if you have any questions for us uh you can submit them using the hash portal paloa uh we have somebody checking those out and we’ll pass those along to us we’ll answer any and all questions that you might have regarding the transfer portal uh we of course have tons of questions and tons of things to work through which is why we all have a million papers up on this desk Cooper it has about six monitors over there since he’s pulling double duty ranking these players and giving you analysis also we are running a special right now for annual VIP memberships you get 60% off for using the promo code portal and that only works while we are live so go ahead take advantage of that VIP membership you’re going to need it for this time of year it is not just what’s happening in the transfer portal today the window will open for the next three weeks there’s also I don’t know college football playoffs we’ve got coaching Carousel signing day just came and went but uh there’s still more player movement that’s happening and we’re already looking the 2026 class and 2027 class and looking ahead so make sure you take advantage of that uh let’s go ahead and talk about some of the quarterbacks in the portal again we’re not seeing those major flashy names that we saw last year give it time there is still of course plenty of time for this um but I mean we saw tons of of movement half of all starting quarterbacks in FBS last season over half were transfer portal uh players and so let’s go ahead and start with Jackson Arnold he’s somebody that we found out a couple of days ago would plan to enter the transfer portal a former five-star quarterback he’s got a new offensive coordinator coming into Oklahoma so he has headed out and uh looking for that next destination Huff I’ll start with you here on Jackson Arnold how do you evaluate his college career thus far it was an interesting situation this year with him getting benched and coming back in but how do you evaluate it yeah I mean I I think it’s an incomplete in a sense that has it been fair to him with what he’s had to experience you know they fire their offensive Court in the middle of the season they have the scapegoat whether it’s him whether it’s at L trell you know does he have enough data to say that he’s officially not a guy or did he just become a victim of circumstantial evidence it’s starting to Trend towards that way and I think he’s going to be a commodity I think he’s going to be a player that there’s still enough youth there where there’s going to be a school that’ll bring him in with the expectation that he can be a Difference Maker when he gets there uh does he have you know a gigantic Market is he going to be a Dylan Gabriel type A Riley Leonard type where he might be that one missing piece maybe not but could he end up in a Col mord like situation where he needs to go with a young coach or a first year head coach or a relatively new newer head coach and then he might just be the guy that a change of scenery is going to be good for him I tend to think he’s going toci side on that side of it where he’s going to have more of a mordike presence where maybe they don’t go 12-1 or 11-1 go to the playoffs but they go nine and three eight and four nine and three win some games that people didn’t expect them to go to a decent bowl game and kind of get things turned around because there’s still enough meat left on that bone yeah the the Haynes King kind of comes in mind a little bit going from you know a former highly touted recruit from Texas S&M and going to Georgia Tech and getting linked up with Brink key and playing for a program that believed in him you know I think with Jackson Arnold you look at Oklahoma and the situation you say all right what do you need for a Young quarterback to succeed and anybody who watches our show in the 105 we talk about it all the time you got to have protection you have to have the play callers and you have to have The Playmakers Jackson Arnold swinging a whiff right um 0 for three Oklahoma there in terms of setting up a young player first success at that position the Sooners did not do that not all of that is on Bren Venable they had some unfortunate guys leave uh via the port portal Kaden green was one of those guys they didn’t expect Nick Anderson goes down for the season Deon Burks uh was banged up then you look at Arnold you know some of this is on him right just in terms of all the things that we liked about him coming out of Denton guy was the Poise the accuracy and the ball placement all three of those things we have not seen it’s it’s been a little bit of a of a chicken with this head cut off quite honestly he needs to find a spot where he can get his feet back under him the game seems way too fast now the big biggest thing I take away from him Oklahoma started to figure out like okay this guy is a little bit more multi-dimensional of an athlete maybe than we’ve been giving him credit for a rush for over 600 yards turn on the tape against any of these teams LSU Alabama what Jackson Arnold did it starts with his legs so I think whatever program he goes to is going to have to value that attribute of his and then the passing game is going to have to come along I wouldn’t mind him going into a situation where he is going to have to compete for the job and maybe have to sit a little bit quite honestly I mean we’ve seen it with Bryce young he had to sit right uh and and after he started all those games for Carolina now all the sudden over the last 5 weeks he’s starting to look like more of the player that we thought he was going to be I think the same is with a 19-year-old quarterback who’s still trying to figure it out right now the lights seem a little bit too big we have a 90 grade on them um honestly it’s probably a little bit too high based off the tape but we still think that there’s a lot to tap into there I mean every single week when we were updating the injury report it was just all wide receivers knocked out and so yeah a tough situation for a quarterback to thrive in um still of course saw that potential in in high school but for him system and fit will be will be so important Kaden Suter another guy that we want to mention uh the Liberty quarterback we’re starting to get some news on planned visits per our Matt zenet he’s planning on heading to Syracuse Colorado and Florida State do any of those schools jump out at you H that’s you’re like o I like that marriage yeah I think Florida State makes a lot of logical sense I think him and Gus maon could be a pretty perfect match for the NS the Syracuse one doesn’t make a whole lot of sense l k mcord is planning to go to the NFL after the season Colorado I mean it seemingly thinks that it looks like Juju Lewis is going to be given a chance to win the starting job as handed the keys I mean yeah so I mean you you don’t want to go away from that whole thing and then say okay you know we need those keys back we’re going to have somebody else Drive um you know is gu guu willing to sit next year probably not he’s probably going to Colorado with the expectation that he’ll come in and be the guy so maybe Colorado’s not a great bit so the expectation would be that Kaden stelter’s coming in and starting whever said and when guys like that are leaving they’re not going to to be on the bench you know again earlier in the career he coup on it with Jackson arell maybe sitting isn’t a bad thing we see that with Dante Moore this year going to Oregon know that Dylan Gabriel’s coming in but being willing to say I’m going to need this year just kind of get my legs back into me the lights were a little too bright wasn’t necessarily getting great coaching and play calling at UCLA so now he kind of goes and sits and now he gets that year to kind of get his own mental P back and you know get back to being what made him so highly touted coming out of high school with Suter the later you get it’s no I need to go somewhere and get tape I need to get that film and be able to audition my ability to NFL Scouts and so I think Florida state with whatever you want to call their quarterback situation this year does seem like a really good fit new offensive coordinator coming in and a new quarterback that kind of makes for a perfect marriage at least you know from 30,000 feet above banner year for Kaden stter in 20 23 when they went to I believe the Fiesta Bowl against Oregon and um you know you think about all the things that he done I believe he was 2 2400 yards passing another th000 on the ground 32-6 TD to int ratio I think a lot of us thought he was going to end up with auburn and Hugh f as former head coach but I think all three of these make sense and this is kind of why I like the transfer portal for these quarterbacks to find the right fit I like the Gus mes on fit that you mentioned I think Gus Malon coming from UCF he’s looking for quarterback stability so a guy like Kaden stter would give him that and then on the Colorado front you know I think this is pretty telling even with Julian Lewis you know a guy that obviously they have high hopes for Julian Lewis is a a Rec classification and if I was Julian Lewis I I’d be telling him hey who who would you say out of all these young freshmen that have played have been a success story and I’d look at those guys and I’d say Okay Jaden rot he transferred he’s now number three with Georgia Dante Moore battling with Austin novad at Oregon Jackson Arnold play Early in the bowl game now he’s in the portal it’s not exactly something that you want to do even if you’re prepared for and I would understand why he thinks he’s ready to play playing in Carolton High School uh but that being said having the ability to sit is a luxury so what Kaden sulter could give uh Deion Sanders and Colorado I’m into that and then Syracuse is sneaky you know they were super aggressive uh after Kyle McCord last year where everybody was ready to throw him to the Wolves because he lost uh to Ohio State he played well and there are a lot of NFL evaluators that like him and I think FR Brown is one of those guys you got to give a lot of credit to he’s making Syracuse New York a really appealing Place uh for these guys to step into get the keys and the biggest thing with these quarterbacks you want to feel like you’re believed in right in a place like Syracuse I think FR Brown is is okay with saying Kaden sulter you’re our guy we’re riding behind you 110% we’re Florida State Colorado there might be some other options out there I think Syracuse is in a position to push all their chips forward on Kaden stter uh pretty interested to see how this one works out you know the one that we’ll talk about too that it’s fascinating because Matt zenis just broke that there’s the expectation that cam Rising will not be back at Utah for the 2025 season and you look at the Utah quarterback room where it was on Friday to where it is now is anybody left I mean no which almost makes Devin dampier leaving New Mexico a foregone conclusion that he’s going to follow Wilson also Isaac Wilson Sam Huard Brandon Rose cam Rising now after losing Nate Johnson a year ago so that entire quarterback room is gone and so Utah is going to have to find they’re probably going to bring damper with them but then the question becomes is do they need to go after another veteran a guy who’s just willing to be a death guy maybe in a pinch could come in and play now you’re going to go try to get a fourth or fifth year guy maybe not an eighth year guy like cam ryen but a fourth or fifth year guy that is content with you might be a backup you probably will be a backup I’ve got my guy that’s coming with me um but I mean you that and that’s where the portal does help schools like this where your quarterback when you you talked about with USC earlier right now Jaden mayowa is the only scholarship quarterback they have heading into their bowl game against Texas A&M what happens if he gets injured you know who comes in h Long Street can’t play until next year but now Utah not having a bowl they don’t need to have a backup plan but they literally do not have a quarterback in that room right now with graduation and transfer so you know it almost makes it even more obvious that dampier is going to be following Jason backck to University of Utah from New Mexico I have a head coach though Kyle Whittingham is coming back he did make that officially clear but yes Utah will definitely be a big buyer when it comes to uh finding a quarterback I want to go back to what you guys talked about with Colorado because I find this so interesting it reminds me a lot of a conversation that we have in the NFL which is you know bringing in a Young quarterback what that’s going to do to a veteran mess with his psyche that sort of thing you both seem kind of surprised that Colorado is bringing in a veteran quarterback and a guy that is expected to start immediately wherever he’s headed um why are we surprised that that Colorado is interested in bringing in a trans for quarterback well I’m not surprised I think it’s a smart move you know they got Pat Shermer and they can sell this place one of the one of the quarterbacks out there at the top of our board is Conor wigman and I think Conor wigman ceiling is probably you know a day two NFL draft choice uh there are games where you put it on tape Missouri one of those games uh where you say okay it’s starting to come together uh and the biggest thing with him is he’s a proactive passer I think the traits are actually adequate uh in terms of what he provides there but you think about playing an NFL system for college colado plug-and playay type of guy I think that makes sense a lot and I’m a big believer in letting these young quarterbacks sit I think they need to sit you know depending on the situation outside of a guy like ryol or Bryce Underwood um you know when you’re financially invested in those guys those guys got to play Early um so you know Colorado of that situation I understand why they would be interested in a guy like Kaden Suter all right we want to bring in our newsbreaker Matt zenet here to talk more about the news that he broke that cam Rising is not expected to return to Utah uh Matt we briefly broke down the situation at Utah when it comes to their quarterback position but as it pertains to cam rising in particular what are you hearing as far as what’s next for him yes obviously been a lot of turnover in the the Utah quarterback room recently with Sam hu Isaac Wilson did deciding to enter the transfer portal and now based on latest information that that I have on my end is that that the current expectation is that cam Rising who is eligible for one more year of college due to uh Missing most of this season to an injury that the current expectation is that he will not be back at Utah next season it’s unclear at this point whether cam is planning on moving on to the NFL or whether he’s planning on utilizing the medical hardship waiver that he would be eligible for and maybe playing elsewhere that part’s unclear right now but based on the latest information that I have the current expectation is that he will not be back back at Utah next season Matt with you know all signs kind of pointed to dampier following Beck to the University of Utah you know we just talked about there’s nobody in that quarterback room at Utah have you heard some other names though that could end up with Beck as maybe more of a stop Gap from a depth standpoint or guys that will go in there to compete with dampier for that starting job assuming he ends up there he’s a big one did to keep an eye out so had 31 touchdowns this year I under Jason Becket New Mexico contributed to New Mexico being number four in the country this year a in total offense he’s definitely going to be a target for Utah but but at the same time there’s going to be competition for him all right Matt zenet we appreciate you tracking the news for us and bringing us some context I am sure that this is not our second ring to you we’ll have you back on in just a little bit already two times in the first hour we love to have Matt zennis on this show uh let’s continue to to chat about cam Rising because he said it he said it’s unclear what’s going to happen next do we expect cam rising to have more college football left in him I I actually do I I think there’s going to be some interest because when he was healthy now granted that was two years ago keep in mind he won two pack 12 championships at Utah took them to the Rose Bowl I you know a school that we had heard last year was a possibility was UCLA with Ethan garbers not necessarily having a great season with him and Dante Moore kind of jostling there was a lot of talk that Rising could end up at UCLA even though he had missed the entire 2023 season given that two of his injuries that have cost some seasons have happened in the Rose Bowl maybe that’s not the best fit but he is a Southern California grew up just a half hour 45 minutes north of the UCLA campus Ethan garbage has graduated you know could there be some other schools could it be just Martin also the transfer Port the portal right um you know could it be a school like Stanford I mean Cam’s got enough degrees now where he should probably be able to qualify for a graduate program at Stanford but with Stanford losing some guys in the portal I mean there’s going to be some schools that will take again this isn’t a situation where it’s he’s transfering to his third scoore remember he was at Texas but when he was healthy at Utah he was very very good there was a reason why Kyle Whittingham wanted to get him back as soon as he could this year maybe he came back too early and it ended up costing him pretty much the season and essentially you know really hurt Utah’s efforts in the Big 12 but there is Talent there it’s a matter of him staying healthy even when he was playing those first couple of games he looked like he was getting back into shape so the the downside is it will be his eighth year of college football do you want a quarterback that experience while you look in the NFL I mean Tom Brady was winning Super Bowls when he was in his 20th year in the NFL I mean in eighth year is not that old when you’re considering you’re playing against a lot of younger players but it’s just a matter of is he too much of a risk there was a lot of Buzz that he was getting significant nil to stay at Utah we we were Hearing in the seven digits and that’s what kept him there he’s going to need to understand that the market has changed it’s now do you want nil or do you want the opportunity for the NFL do you want the film do you want a year where you’re going to be the guy we’ve got young quarterbacks I think he’s going to have to kind of enter the portal with the expectation that now it’s just about about getting film that can appeal to the NFL he’s in a prime spot he’s played three games over the last two years you know so think about it uh two years ago had the ACL you watch the tape this year it was rough and what I mean by that you talk about a guy that’s just been through it in terms of injuries right so if I was cam Rising I don’t think cam Rising has much of NFL upside at all so if I’m cam rising and you want to look at this from a pure Financial standpoint I think he’s going to be maybe one of the most highly sought out potential backup options for a potential college football playoff team and that’s kind of how I see cam Rising I mean he’s a Teddy Bridgewater a Case Keenum whatever one of those guys a guy that’s played a lot of football now that being said is he going to go hunt snap somewhere does he want to play uh or is this a guy that’s okay maybe bringing some leadership to a team sitting behind being the number two uh and then ready when his name is called so be interesting to watch Devin Brown could he potentially be an option for Utah he could he played his senior year at the uh Corner Canyon High School in japer where interestingly enough he preceded Isaac Wilson as it started and he took over for Jackson Dart you know so telling you this is all connected it’s all connected we’ve heard Isaac Wilson potentially connected to Old Miss but with Devon Brown you know there was Buzz last off season that maybe he was going to return to the State of Arizona where he actually spent the majority of his high school career at Queen Creek High School playing for Joe Germaine who was a former Ohio State quarterback you know does Arizona become an option does know AA go in the portal obviously things didn’t go that great this year at Arizona on but or does he return back to Utah I think as Matt was saying there’s going to be a market for Deon damp here all right there’s going to be some competition that maybe is more appealing than the University of Utah so then do they pivot to Devon Brown that could absolutely be a possibility but I think Devon Brown will have some options maybe back out in the western footprint as well so it’s going to be very fascinating to see how that kind of all plays out does Utah say hey you know what Jason Beck bring your guy or do they say hey you know what let’s go after Devin Brown the talent is there maybe there’s unfamiliarity with your play calling and his ability but we can make this marriage work or do do they pretty much stick to the script and say you’re bringing damper with you and that’s what essentially cleaned our room out is there too many devons in one quarterback room though I think they can make it work um another quarterback that I want to hit on real quick while we’re on the Utah conversation is Isaac Wilson I know his name has been thrown about here and there obviously a very young quarterback only um played one season and was thrust into the starting role when um cam Rising went down but what do we expect the interest in him to be just so early on in his career what have you seen from him I think um you know this is a guy that’s got to find the right fit I think you know I would have loved to seen him stay at Utah obviously uh some things changing the coordinator changed there with Andy lwig out so you know you mentioned Devon dampier the the other thing I’ll say on on Devon Brown real quick those two couldn’t be any more different stylistically right so Dan Pier probably fits more what they want to do uh Devon Brown will see what happens with him but Isaac Wilson there are times when you watch him on tape and you say okay I get it the younger brother of Z Wilson what he can do he’s kind of got a little bit of a a similar play style and another guy that played at at Corner Canyon and uh you know he’s a playmaker at the position but win is too much too much and what I mean by that 12 touchdowns 15 ints doesn’t look like he really grew at times and say okay how do I apply some of the things the mistakes that I’ve made in real time so another one of those guys probably forced in the fire a little bit too early due to injuries there at Utah can you take the good from that learn from that apply that at your next stop uh and the other thing with him how does that really kind of impact his timeline a little bit does he have to play next year or is this a guy that can go sit a year get the confidence back similar way we talked about Jackson Arnold I’m I’m fascinated with these young quarterbacks kind of what’s in their mind and what do they thinks best sitting or playing I think with Isaac Wilson you’re going to have a very similar situation to Dante Moore where he’s going to be fine with sitting next year and it was a very similar situation to him getting thrown into the fire this he was probably fine sitting this year cor and I there was the expectation when he committed to Utah that cam Rising might be back for this 2024 season so he goes there thinking hey maybe I could play as a true freshman but they’ve got a little bit of upper class depth ryzing doesn’t play or he starts but then he gets hurt then Wilson gets thrown in and then in the middle of the year you have a coordinator change and it just seems like a mixture of the receivers never really getting on the same page I mean that was one of the most fasinating things is that guys that have left schools to go to Utah that were productive at their previous school just couldn’t get anything going offensively at Utah I think Isaac Wilson’s going to have plenty of Suits I know some West Coast Schools are already kicking the tires there potentially bring him in he could play as a as a sophomore uh but I think it wouldn’t be out of the realm possibility for him to go somewhere and sit for year and a name that you know has been brought up quite a bit this morning was BYU well Jake roff’s got another year so he would have to go and say and maybe that’s what it takes now he could have gone to BYU out of high school a big reason why he picked Utah where his father played was to avoid following in footsteps and remember he also had two other brothers that were playing at BYU but now maybe it’s more of a business decision instead of a personal decision after the way things went at Utah maybe he’s content to go and sit for a year and then in 2026 becomes the guy but that one will certainly be fascinating to watch because there’s so many layers to it with there’s still a lot of talent he was a true freshman this isn’t transfer number three or four this isn’t a fourth year Guy this is a guy who had the talent and was kind of thrown into the fire before he probably was ready to that’s kind of what we see with these true freshmen too is you go back to their Recruitment and try to follow the other schools that were interested because that wasn’t that long ago and it seems like they said well we made a mistake in this first season so we’ll go somewhere else um but as we hit the top of the hour we have so much more transfer portal to update you on the news is coming Fast and Furious you heard Chris Hummer tell us at the very beginning of the show that over 550 players have already hit the transfer portal this morning and as more guys hop in we will continue to update you there but coming up on the next hour we will welcome in our friend Bud Elliot from the cover three podcast but just a reminder you are watching transfer portal palooza we’ll be right back 247 Sports is your home for college football basketball and recruiting 247 Sports has you covered with industry-leading shows like Josh Pat’s college football show the college football recruiting show live commitments and our mass network of podcast become a VIP and find out what’s really going on with your favorite team with inside information from our experts across the country college football basketball and recruiting find it all on 247sports.com and on YouTube e e welcome back into our transfer portal paloa show we are uh doing some adjustments here a little Chinese fire drill everybody’s switching chairs um but we are going to welcome in our special guest Bud Elliot from the cover three podcast because Bud the whole point of the transfer portal is to make your team better and to hopefully be one of those teams that heard their name called yesterday when it comes to making it in the college football playoffs so bud how can we fix a team that maybe was close to making it not quite let’s start with a South Carolina what do they need in the portal yeah and I think it’s a fascinating one because you have Young quarterback Loris sers obviously had a great year you had a defense defensive line that has a lot of really nice young pieces but also you know lost some important veteran pieces as well to graduation or to the NFL I I think South Carolina needs a true receiver for sellers like somebody who’s not a gadget guy I I I’m intrigued by Nick Harbor I like Simon and what they do with him and how they move him around as a chess piece but but when it’s third and seven South Carolina to me needs a true X who can just get open and be the guy that if sers he’s still young if he’s just going to force the ball to some or just kind of trust in somebody I think they need a true X who can go and get it done so probably some more defensive line depth so they can continue to throw bodies at people like they did this year but on the offensive side I think a real weapon for sellers would help this team a whole lot Bud Florida state has a ton of needs I mean you think about Mike Nordell and Gus maana I see you laughing over there um but I am pretty interested like if you had to put on the general manager cap here where do you even start if you’re Mike norb valant company so it’s interesting for state has a whole lot of money to spend and they have been one of the biggest Spenders for a long time I think first you have to decide what do you do at quarterback you bring in new offensive coordinator Gus Malon he’s a guy who has traditionally kind of floundered with with you know pocket passers and flourished with mobile quarterbacks you have Luke crom hope true freshman this year had some nice games had some really bad games that’s not totally unexpected for a guy who just two years ago was an all state safety in Georgia as he sat behind quarterback Holden Garner who signed with auburn I think croman Hook is mobile enough to run Gus M’s off offense but at the same time if you’re Mike norell and the next season goes poorly you’re probably getting fired so do you have the guts to roll with an unproven quarterback or do you want to go out and get somebody you know on the open market who may be able to run it a little more perfectly and I think that’s an important question to ask for the NOS because if you think about it if you’re able to save some money on QB and go with croman Hoke then you can bolster the offensive line not a not a cheap position in the portal but one that is desperately needed there in Tallahassee they have some nice young pieces who I think probably will see one or two guys emerge into decent to good starters this year but I think it’d be foolish to think that you’re going to have three or four young guys emerge into starters and thus they need to get some proven production in the portal via the offensive line and not bet on that potential so much and that won’t come cheap so as far as budgeting wise they got to figure out quarterback first because QB takes up such a large amount of your kind of you know pseudo salary cap if you will and from that point we’ll see who they can go by on the offensive line definitely need to uh be very strategic about it I have a tough stat nine of the 10 top 10 ranked transfer portal classes this past cycle are B eligible the only one is the Florida state seminal so it’s not just about getting that top ranked class about getting the right guys in the right pieces which is what bud Elliot um just laid out for us here let’s stick in the Sunshine State in Miami you have some suggestions about how they could potentially become a playoff team this next season what can they do yeah but I think the biggest thing that kind of stands out to me is Miami that secondary right we heard a lot about OJ Fred reek and some of these young guys that are playing well uh but at times uh I would say Miami fans would say they left a lot to be desired right so what do Lance gidry what does Mario chrisal do I think if you’re in Miami you got to get that secondary right and you look at the board but this is not a overpopulated board with a lot of talent there still it’s early we’ll see what happens maybe a couple names from some of these college football playoff contenders jump in the portal but if you’re Miami I think priority number one you got to fix that pass defense C completely agree I I I went to bed as this game was ending you know Miami goes out to Cal almost loses they win and I’m running my numbers the next morning I’m like damn Miami was top 10 nationally in defensive success right against Cal like how the heck did they almost lose I’m like oh they gave up six plays of 50 yards plus I I don’t think Miami needs like five studs in the secondary but I think Miami should probably be willing to O overpay for some veteran presence who at least knows what the heck they’re doing won’t blow assignments and just kind of help the defense stay in check that that’s a large part of it Miami is going to be a high pressure defense under Lance gri maybe next year as the young pass rush emerges maybe they’ll have to Blitz a little bit less but I think that’s truly in his DNA so you may not need guys who can cover dudes for 5 seconds but you do need guys who know what the heck they’re doing can actually be assignment sound and much like FSU with the offensive line I don’t have to get studs out of the portal but I probably got to be willing to overpay to acquire some certainty that my defense in the back end can at least play at a certain minimum level because you can’t have you know 6 50 yard plays in a game in which the other 60 plays you’re actually playing really well like that just kind of defeats the the purpose you broke down just what type of player they need but overall looking at this Miami Squad I mean what are they going to be honing in on in the market what are some of the most prioritized team needs for them I I think quarterback is has got to be really up there obviously cam Ward carried that team is there a cam Ward level player this year in the transfer portal I don’t really think so yet but you can find some guys you who maybe are a bit of an approximation I I definitely don’t think that men from tan has anywhere near the arm strength that cam ward has but he is a guy who generally makes good decisions knows where to go with the football and was pretty impressive for a freshman for Tain so he could be interesting a guy who came from very similar offense John mattier at Washington State a little more of a runner than cam Ward is but I think regardless if you’re Miami you can’t Bank on having the same level of offense this year or next year that you did this year because I don’t think there’s another cam Ward out there in the portal although In fairness we didn’t know exactly how cam Ward would play behind a def decent offensive line cuz he got rocked when he was at Washington State behind that swiss cheese that they had there in 2023 so you really have to make sure you beef up the defense like we said with the secondary offensive line should be fine they they’ve kind of struck gold two years in a row I think relative at the center position so we’ll see if they have somebody inhouse there and they do lose a good bit at receiver so that’ll be another opportunity but if you’re able to get the quarterback I think you can probably get the receivers to come with keep asking the question we might as well ask the portal master here is there a cam or in the portal this year no not not as of yet and you know cam Ward’s a special one right I mean we’re talking about a potential top five pick here a guy that will be in New York for the Heisman Ceremony more than likely um so you think about cam Ward what that looks like and that’s why it’s so important to stack these quarterbacks Miami they’re excited about some of these young guys that they have Emory Williams Luke nickel Jud Anderson a couple of those guys as well that kind of stick out but this is kind of I wouldn’t say the concern right but this is the reality of having to go back to the well year in and year out now the name that bud said that I think is interesting right is a guy like John mattier from Washington State if he jumps in the portal I think that guy um is a pretty good fit for what Miami wants to do in Shannon Dawson’s offense so fascinated to kind of see how Miami goes about this I would be shocked if they didn’t take a quarterback this cycle similar trajectory I mean cam W might as well go back to Washington State grab those two guys were in QB room together for for quite some time uh let’s h on Old Miss too they another team that was very active in the last year and are one of those nine of the top 10 that did end up um hitting a bowl game but I know that they would prefer to be in the college football playoff any suggestions for Lane kein and what he should be targeting this year bud I I I think Old Miss actually is going to be pretty fine uh at the most premium position quarterback because that room they have done a nice job with I think the thing you have to watch out for there is two very expensive positions Old Miss will have to be spending up yet again receiver and dline this year they hit on those positions on the D line receiver that they brought in Juice Wells he was not really a hit largely uh due to injury but I think if you get D line right and you get Receiver right the offensive line should improve some for the rebs and I think the secondary is largely going to be okay they might look to add one there uh but receiver and defensive line for me are are the real keys if you want to tell me o line like that’s that’s also I I I’d buy the argument but I think the the real pressing needs that made that team special this year wi healthy were that dline and receiver and now a lot of those guys are going to be gone how about the first team out of the college football playoff Alabama what are kayin dore’s uh what’s on his checklist I I I think with Alabama you wouldn’t think about it but you look at their receiver position Ryan Williams can’t do this by himself he tried this season and we’re talking about it we all know his age right however old he is 17 18 years now glad that he is still 17 18 in February when the big birthday big uh big things ahead for Ryan Williams um but I I look at the receiver room and this is a room that has a lot of guys that can do a lot of different things and you think about Kendrick law he’s out of there wasn’t a guy that had a ton of production Kobe prenis was another top 247 guy that we like Caleb odm was another guy that we had in the top 150 now those guys are out so what does that receiver room kind of look like this year they lose Caleb Cunningham late in the process to Old Miss I think they’ll have to put some things together drik Meadows another young guy highly tout it but terms of the production leaves a little bit to be desired so that might be asking a lot here’s the other one bud I don’t know know about you I’ve been thinking about this quarterback what are they doing there right and they they might be okay they they have the look under the hood they see it every day in practice they bring in Austin Mack a guy that reclass that we liked uh over from Washington you got Dylan lonan there as well former five-star Ty Simpson I kind of wonder how confident they feel about him and then you got kelen Russell okay and you think about Alabama the expectations there then missing the Playoffs just it just kind of makes it feel like there’s a little bit more urgency here I want wonder if Alabama brings a quarterback in if that’s discussions that they’re having right now so Alabama I’m looking at quarterback maybe they had some experience on the back end of the secondary as well I might have missed something because I just jumped off cover three is did milro transfer or declair like are we under the assumption that he is gone I would assume that he’s going to the NFL draff now now everything I just said is under the assumption that he would be leaving for Sundays for sure yeah I if he wants to go pro I can’t fault the guy for that he’s going to test off the charts obviously he does have a really good arm there’s been some inconsistency W with with the passing stuff if I was him though I I would not transfer kayin D’Or if you look at his history everybody’s gonna gonna point to the Michael penck stuff but if you look back kayin D’Or has been absolute killer with mobile quarterbacks in fact I think three times in the last decade dbor has had a quarterback either Rush 4,000 or be their leading rusher that’s not even including milro who accomplished that feat just this year and and I mean like he develops quarterbacks pretty well I don’t think it’d be a real smart idea for milro to transfer he wants to go pro that’s a different discussion uh offensive line wise Tyler Booker’s probably not staying around right is uh is Jaden Roberts staying around I think one of one of the two Bookers uh definitively out I would imagine and Roberts could be out so we’ll see and they get another year of brailford at Center so like that should be okay you know I know they didn’t love the tackle play this year but when you get Proctor and pritchet like they should be okay so most likely they’ll be in the guard Market if if Roberts goes they’ll 100% be in the guard Market I I would assume they also lose a pretty good pit at linebacker don’t they those guys have been around the program yeah I mean like that’s going to be interesting right I I’m curious to see if any of those guys jump early because then linebackers been a position especially like off ball linebacker it’s actually been tougher to fill in the portal than some GMS I I talked to thought it would be in recent years I I I’ll add to that the top rate linebacker that we have right now is Amari Campbell a guy that played well out of North Carolina but you go beyond that you look at bangley Kamar already committed to to Kansas Josiah trer the son of Jeremiah trudder from West Virginia they’re at this point in the portal this is not a position uh that is really deep with a lot of top tier Talent so being able to get those guys from high school getting those guys ready to play early we talked about Sammy Brown some of the linebackers Georgia’s throwing out there obviously not everybody can recruit like Georgia and Clemson uh but just a little a little bit more of an emphasis on why you need those second level Defenders ready to go sooner rather than later something that go ahead bud no go ah no I was just going to say that’s something that we always track during this portal cycle is is the uh position groups that are available I feel like one year you know offensive lineman good luck finding one this past year defensive lineman was one that uh was probably more need than actual players um but let’s go ahead and recap what’s happened today so far these are the top five players who have entered the transfer portal today but we talked a little bit in the last hour about bear Alexander what his Market could potentially look like it sounds like Coupe thinks that a reunion with Georgia could be what the doctor ordered for him what do you think look if you are that big and you move that well teams will put up with a whole lot because God just does not make many folks who are that big and move that well and if if you’re not that big you don’t move that well certain way you got to kind of conduct yourself and and handle your business but if you’re as big and fast as bear Alexander is people are going to put up with it and you know Georgia I’m sure like all the Georgia fans that are mentioned like oh we’re not going to miss be be Alexander at all we’re glad he’s gone well guess what the guy’s still really talented and it’s probably his money year for the NFL but I guess every year is a money year for him because he transfers every year but you know look if he goes back to Georgia I have no doubt that he’ll probably play really hard give good effort and get drafted higher than we ever would have thought he would two years ago so yeah like you don’t have a lot of options if you are in the market and you’re trying to play at the level that Jordan is playing at which is where you need absolute killers on the interior defensive line so I love the fit because there’s not many out there yeah no there’s there’s still going to be a pretty robust market for him based on yeah you you bring him in for a meeting and you shake his hand and you go yep that seems like a football player I exactly yeah good off the bus as well yeah another player that we haven’t quite discuss too much who I want to mention is uh fluff Bothwell he’s somebody coming out from South Alabama the running back we have him kind of tied I guess for the uh the number one running back right now with Wayan Parker out of Washington state has a 91 grade when we talk about these players potentially making that step up from a lower level to a power five level is he somebody that fits that mold do you think oh for sure you know there were some discussions about maybe putting him as running back one and the way that we stacked him we kind of wanted that to be the conversation like hey these are the two guys that we kind of see as the top options in the portal and the other one you talked about Parker from Washington State I mean really exciting uh two different styles one’s more of an allpurpose back and Parker the other one a little bit more north south kind of geared to play in these power conferences uh but I like him I mean you think about the production this year 830 yards on over um 100 attempts so I mean this is a guy that didn’t run the ball in one game more than 17 times so he’s making the most out of his touches a name that we kind of monitored early coming out of South Alabama now he’s in the portal um but certainly kind of a guy that kind of reminds us a little bit bit of Damen Martinez maybe not as big but the same type of physical style Runner so I think he’s going to have a big Market he’ll probably have a bigger Market than Parker I think long term we just kind of like the way Parker maybe projects to the NFL a little bit better bu we have a few examples running backs making the jump up I mean scaboo somebody that comes to mind immediately also the uh shoot who was the back who who crushed it for Missouri last year 20 in 2023 came from like D2 We have seen yeah from a division two yeah yeah I I uh would personally like to thank fluff Bothwell he absolutely crushed it on the props against Appalachian State that that was huge and uh he I do think he can definitely play at the P5 level all right let’s look at some teams that are in win now mode we talked about the ones that just barely missed out on uh on making the college football playoff but there’s still plenty of other teams that I wouldn’t say one guy away because that’s not how this transfer portal thing works it’s usually multiple guys uh but some that should should capitalize on success that they had last season but who’s a team that um maybe it’s just a couple of players away if they get it right this year the team that we’ve been talking about in cover three for a while that that basically has to have chips to the middle of the table here for the 2025 season is Auburn you know Auburn has been spending tremendously at the high school level for the past two years they they tried to basically do a a more of a traditional approach with build up the high school build up that in you know kind of In-House Talent base first for a minute and then figure out what you have and supplement that in year three you know Auburn notably did didn’t take any kind of expensive quarterback in the portal this offseason they missed a bowl so you know maybe perhaps they they should have actually done that but they didn’t and I think if you look at Auburn like that’s a team that does have a lot of nice young pieces to build around Auburn should be spending like crazy this year because it’s a lot cheaper to spend than it is to pay that Hugh freeze buyout and if they have another bad year I assume the Auburn boosters will want to hire or to fire Hugh free so Auburn has been the team that I’ve had circled uh for really basically ever since last year’s portal ended I was like okay they’re keeping their powder dry they’re not spending like crazy in the portal for 2024 season but it’s Auburn you know they’re sitting on a pile of cash it’s got to be coming for 25 yeah was a little bit of a a calculated shot by I think you freeze I think they thought obviously the onfield performance is going to be a whole lot better than five and seven this year but you look at what Auburn’s done in the recruiting Trail and this is why I like to be able to tie it into signing day that we had last Monday I mean you think about Auburn coming off the heels of two top 10 classes so the calvary is coming it kind of feels a little bit about a little like Florida the thing that Auburn doesn’t have they don’t have DJ lagway right and they have a Young quarterback room think about the two guys that they have right now Walker white Duce Knight that is not going to be the signal caller in 2025 there is no way Hugh fre can do that uh so we talked a little bit about Kaden sulter obviously a guy that’s been connected to that program with Hugh frees his connections from Liberty I want to know if Auburn’s going to go big game hunting here and then what this portal Market at the quarterback position is going to look like they need to win a couple other teams USC what do they do you know I think about Brian Kelly uh going into next year in 2025 they had a little bit of a rough Signing Day you lose Bryce Underwood I think getting Garrett nus back would be huge uh for another year to kind of let them um you know mend the fences a little bit but you know LSU Oklahoma the other one I kind of look at is all right Penn State if you have one more year of Drew Aller you got to get him some weapons at the receiver position and then Michigan the clock is starting already so what I mean by that is if you’re G to pay Bryce Underwood all this money which by all means they’re they’re paying a hefty lot that’s your window you got three years right so you got to make it count starts for his freshman season absolutely 110% and you go all in especially in expanded college football playoff format you got to look at it that way but in terms of hey uh you know I got a quarterback that we’re building around here I got a three-year window to try to win a National Championship or two what do you think about Michigan back completely I well I think it’s interesting because I totally agree the wind if you’re going to pay the guy what reported 12 Milli over three or whatever the actual number is we we know it’s it’s a pretty good chunk do do you bring in a like a bridge quarterback maybe like a Miller Moss type I think obviously you’re goingon to have to consult with Underwood some but if you’re paying him the money like the money that’s kind of what the money’s for as Don Draper would say but I think maybe you bring in somebody to at least establish a floor for the quarterback room that you lack this year with the hope that Underwood arrives maybe a year early at a certain level and is able to beat out a guy like Miller Moss who who’s like a fine player but he’s not scary like he’s not like a major NFL prospect at this point in his career so he shouldn’t really be threatening and I think if you bring in a Miller Moss it probably would be a real competition during fall Camp maybe with the expectation like a merch lagway type situation maybe lague you know beats out merch later in the season ultimately like he started and played well but that’s because Merz you know got hurt maybe Underwood is able to beat out a Miller Moss type of player you know later in this season um I think Michigan definitely fits that I totally agree with the LSU assuming nus Meer doesn’t go Pro which if I’m nus me give them who they’re losing on the offensive line and who they could lose and give him what this quarterback class looks like for this draft I’m going pro I’m not waiting around to face the guys from next year what do you think I think he’s in an interesting spot because I agree with bud I think NFL evaluators want to love Garrett nus Meer and I think in their hearts they’re saying go back to school but at the same time they’re going to be the first organization to say once it goes from day one to day two of the NFL draft all right somebody’s going to run up there and grab Garrett nire because there’s a lot to work with Garrett nire needs to come back to school I think this is a guy that loves LSU but to Bud’s point will Campbell’s gone Emory Jones probably gone you think about LSU we’re going to talk about them in a second what does that offensive line look like you lose CJ Daniels in the portal uh Kiren Lacy as well there are a lot of different pieces you know it’s Joe Sloan back next year right so we’ll see what happens with LSU I think there’s a good argument for either side for him to go and for him to stay I think he ultimately stay stays at the end of the day what about transfer as an OP because I think if I’m nus me I’m not staying at the LSU unless they bring in a lot of studs around me because like that offense is getting rocked via NFL graduation like I if I’m play another year college I’m going somewhere it’s more set up for me to win like personally it’s so interesting what you guys consider win now mode um I just think that that’s a term that you know we maybe needs a little bit of explaining I guess so when it comes to LSU you mentioned some of the pieces that they have to work work with but I’m hearing like lots of things that they need to accomplish in this portal season bu why do you consider LSU maybe a win now team based on what they have or maybe perception could be a part of it head coach could be a part of it well I I thought they should have been win now this year and we we gave LSU you know we gave him some hell for this on on cover three because I’m like think about who you’re going to lose after this year right don’t you lose two interior players as well you lose two of the better tackles in the SEC you lose a couple reers like if you think nus is the goods and he played pretty well for you this year you kind of need to be Allin in the portal and unless you really botch the portal because they went super cheap this year they thought they were going to save that money for high school and they end up losing Underwood they end up losing a number of other key you know key players who were once committed to that class now it feels like you’re not throwing good money after bad but it feels like they missed their window like good luck filling all these holes if your LSU maybe they can but I mean NM have to play incredibly well for this to be a win down mode now granted for Brian Kelly it it probably is Win now otherwise I mean I know he’s got a huge buyout but LSU fans won’t be super happy if they have another year like this season especially when you you fail to make the playoffs in a year in which Bama doesn’t even make it but Bama still smashes you in Baton Rouge I I just think they really botched this thing this year like they should have been all in this is a team that if you had the right pieces through the portal for the 2024 season would easily have made the playoff in my opinion come on bud we’re all about looking forward looking ahead how do we fix it now that’s why we bring you guys in here to uh help do some of the work of the general managers with programs but we want to hit some breaking news right now we’re just hearing that bill bellich has talked to the UNC Chancellor I know that was a big point of contention when it comes to could this potentially happen is that alignment within the UNCC program and making sure that everybody is on board but I’m assuming that you might have talked to your friend chip Patterson about this who uh knows a thing or two happening in Chapel Hill what can you add on this uh this breaking news yeah I think belich is probably the the leading guy there I mean it seems like he is really motivated the coach when I first heard the news I was like I wonder if this is just kind of a signal to the NFL that hey I love coaching so much I’m even willing to put up with all the nonsense that comes with coaching college football but I really want back in the NFL uh but no it appears like he really does uh does care about that I know there have been some what rumors or reports about maybe some involvement with his son like you know some kind of coaching waiting I don’t know if that’s actually legit or not but uh I will tell you we are absolutely on emergency podcast watch for cover three if North Carolina hires bill bich because that headline will absolutely eat on YouTube and we will be there uh to discuss it live hopefully hopefully they hold it for after transfer paloa but I mean if bill belich has the energy to coach College you can’t really say no to B bich right if he if he thinks he still has it you kind of got to trust him I think the the the quote here from the interview with with Pat McAfee a little bit earlier today he said I’ll just say this I think there are a lot of football programs being structured similar to NFL programs mentioned High School recruiting in Portal is now comparative to the draft in NFL free agency I think that’s it I think that sentence right there I mean we talk about Bill bellich maybe more equipped than some of the coaches out there right now in terms of understanding all right what does a revenue share look like what is what is the model of some of these Personnel offices look like as well I think the other thing here that we’re completely missing on is Bill bich in the NL I think there are a lot of owners I think there are a lot of front offices that don’t align with Bill bich because you’re talking about one of the greatest coaches of all time if you hire him you have to give him the authority and the autonomy to run the organization or the program the way that he wants to do that right now in the NFL that’s probably not going to happen at North Carolina they’re going to say here are the keys go run it the way that you want to run it so the people that you want to bring in talked about cap analysts we talked about Scouts structuring it that way I don’t think we’re too far off from the college football calendar just being completely torn to shreds and this looking more and more like the NFL so you know as weird as it sounds for a 72 73 year old uh to be categorized as a progressive hire I mean you could really kind of put it in that bucket a little bit so I find this one completely fascinating and man what a case study it would be if North Carolina was able to to pull this off but a progressive hire for a young 72y old I get it though you cance me also like don’t don’t we think UNCC is kind of a job that that it has some untapped potential at least I do they they they have money I know football will I W say always but probably for the foreseeable future be second fiddle uh to basketball but it doesn’t have to be second fiddle by a ton right maybe it’s kind of more you know 1B to a onea I don’t think belich would take that job if he doesn’t think that there’s real potential there and we know there are some other really good coaches who are also interested uh there were some reports about Matt Campbell U you know depending on on how well you know he interviewed if he did interview so I think that’s I think it’s the best job on the market I think it’s a very smart time for UNCC to be open because we have shoot one two I would say four or five SEC openings coming next year depending on like somebody’s goingon to lose ball games because you have to right they all play each other and they’re going to have fan bases that are really upset I think we’re going to have a lot of SEC openings next year very smart time for Carolina to be open because they get their pick of the litter really I mean I think it’s tough to compete with a guy who can walk into the meeting room with um more rings than fit on one finger when it comes to to winning Super Bowls but when you go to compare uh Matt Campbell as you mentioned with a bill bellich what’s the thought process maybe that UNC is trying to figure out when they are prioritizing what they want in their next head coach I think a lot of it’s fit you know Campbell has done such a nice job there at Iowa State but not an amazing recruiter not great resources at Iowa State I think a lot of the places that have looked at Matt Campbell over the years like okay does he fit what we want to do can he bring in the talent that we think we need to compete you know to be at the top half of the ACC you know to to compete annually because we play a lot of you know season opening games against the SEC and also recruit in many ways when we’re doing well against the SEC you know belich doesn’t have a whole lot of recruiting uh chops but he does have as you mentioned Emily six Super Bowl rings so that probably is going to sell uh pretty well in living rooms assuming he can f you know fill out a nice staff there I I think I would rather have belich at this point than Campbell but clearly Campbell because of the college success that he’s had and this is crazy to say for over a guy who had six Super Bowl rings but maybe the floor is a bit higher because he has been in the college game and we don’t really know what the transition will be like as far as a one for one for bich but it worked out pretty well for Harbaugh it did and you can always go back too there’s probably some more time for Bill bich if he wants to do a few years in college and then maybe go back to the NFL and win a few more Super Bowls um man that is uh it’s crazy that this is something that we’re talking about but yeah the breaking news that bill bich did speak with a uh with UNCC officials the chancellor specifically about this head coach opening uh we want to get back to to some more players uh Houston wide receiver Joseph manjack what uh stands out about him well first of all he done wear gloves so we love that kind of reminds me a little bit of Wayne corbette back in the day uh it’s a little bit of a throwback started at USC uh then went to Houston with with Willie Fritz and um you know a guy that I think has started 23 games played in 35 production wise you know had over 350 yards this year so um you know a guy that I think should have a pretty solid Market bouncing out of Houston it would be interesting to see if he can find um you know a little bit more opportunity somewhere else but I think definitely a guy that will get power forward consideration bud you got anything on him well you got to remember this year like the Houston passing game was was horrid so I think you have to go back and look at kind of you know prior years uh to see some of his better production but obviously the the guy does have some juice to him and I like so far I’m not seeing a lot of amazing receivers in the portal maybe coup disagrees but a lot of your better young receivers are on teams who have a lot of cash to keep them so they’re probably not going to be entering the portal so we are going to have to look a lot towards the G5 ranks this year I think to grab some of those better guys what do you think about the wide receiver Market I think you know at the top it’s pretty fascinating maybe the deepest I understand where Bud’s coming from in terms of you know top tier Talent you look at some of the names at the top of the board Dany I think is going to be a guy that a lot of teams are after heard Georgia uh being connected to him Nick Anderson is another guy had a a phenomenal freshman year then it had a hip injury so you know a little bit of a drawback I think a guy with that type of frame he plays so hard you know the hip injury kind of concerns you a little bit but uh 10 touchdowns as freshman year he can go Eric Singleton quite honestly you can make it pretty good case that he could be the number one player in the portal like I’m I’m I’m in love with him his game what he can do he’s a Speedster uh conceps on plays the game with more of a running back type of mentality Micah Hudson you know another guy that was highly touted five star that didn’t play as a freshman at Texas Tech it didn’t work out Baran Brown gives you some playmaking ability as a run after catch receiver and a deep threat the hands aren’t as Dependable he’s probably an ideal number two uh that you can get involved in the in the return game as well jonte cook another guy very talented um just really kind of got pushed out of probably the most talented receiver room in the country there in Texas um you know so you got different guys Eric rivers from FIU I think is spark plug had over a thousand yards he’s playing predominantly on the outside I think this guy’s a slot receiver as well so one of the more explosive cats CJ Daniels Kendrick law um you know Kendrick law I will say there are some guys in the portal that I think after looking at brashard Smith moving from receiver to running back and looking what he did this year for SMU there’s a couple of these guys that I’d be having conversations with and I’d say Hey listen it hasn’t worked out at your former position and two of them are Kendrick law at receiver this guy’s 200 lb plus he’s the best blocking receiver in the portal and some people are going to roll their eyes at that but in terms of how that projects to running back as a change of pace guy and pass Pro it’s what teams are looking for and then Malachi Singleton uh quarterback at Arkansas I would tell you young man you’re not a quarterback you’re a running back this is where your future is you want to talk about guy that could be a big hit that I’d be looking at you know kicking the tires on uh they’re handful of names that I think you could get creative with uh and get you pretty excited if you start to dig into them a little bit more so Coupe just listed everybody in the transfer portal but is there any body that stands out to you that he mentioned so I I think with the Kentucky guys specifically I mean both those guys have been known like athletic freaks for a while in different ways but if you go and you acquire them I think you’re either going to be like thrilled or really ticked off and no in between because you’ve got to find a way to get them fixed from a production standpoint it really hasn’t been there you can tell me that okay Devon lry and then the the mismatch of quarterbacks Kentucky had this year that that’s fair I I still think those guys are more athlete than they are receiver like I want to see more refinement from their game that was really kind of one of the questions that we had for Kentucky coming into this year and I mean it is a little bit hard to separate it at times from the play from the quarterback position that the Wildcats have had but if you can unlock the like the physically the skills are there but the production is just not and so I think they need to be smart and go to somewhere that really coaches receivers well cuz I don’t think Kentucky does at least not based on you how they developed the receiver position recently um but like there is something there and those guys athletically have the ability to be game changers if you can actually develop them but so far like three years in they’re still really raw to me I I’ll I’ll push back on key on Barry and brown I can I can get on board with that with key I mean you’re talking about a guy over 700 yards this year with Brock Vander Griff as his quarterback right I mean you talked about the instability there in Kentucky Vander Griff uh ly the the last year before uh this is a guy in my opinion that has exceeded expectations so you put him in a more competent offense uh with a passing game that he can get on board with I think Dane key is one of those guys we’re a little bit conservative with we went with like around four grade uh but he can move up the board really quick any rebuttal from Bud Elliott no again I I think the part is like well no like like how do you separate it from the QB play you know what I’m saying like there’s certainly routes that he gets open on that the quarterback doesn’t hit him KY is whiffed on quarterback in back toback years if you can put him on a team with better back maybe it also allows a kid to play with more confidence certainly yeah no I mean I think uh there might be a little bit of a surprise seeing that number one and number six wide receivers are both coming from this Kentucky offense just based on the the fact of what we saw from this Kentucky offense this year but definitely guys with a lot of potential um we are getting in some viewer questions here that I’m really excited to to ask you guys about um as a reminder if you are like where do I submit these questions well I have an answer for you you can use the hasht portal palooza on Twitter we have a pinned tweet at the top of our page that you can go ahead and uh respond to or if you just want a tweet from your account use the hashtag portal paloa and we will answer some of your questions also taking questions on YouTube if you’re watching us there and that is where our first question comes to Cooper from YouTube any thoughts on how Oregon restocks are offensive line if connly and Cornelius are done and mcroy leaving Andrew what like to know is that from Andrew Ivans I wouldn’t be shocked not it’s from Andrew a c there uh back back home in Orlando already thinking about reshuffling the offensive line for Oregon you still got more football left to play D stay staying ahead of the game I mean that’s a Dan Landing fan right there right you’re always one step ahead I I I think you look at the offensive tackle group right now there are a couple guys that stand out but that being said are they are they kind of like Oregon top 12 Contender type of guys I don’t know but you might have to reach on one the the one guy that kind of stands out Cory Robinson from Georgia Tech I thought he held up well against Georgia longer arms a little bit raw has played some ball um you know talk about a guy that started 23 games so I think you could go that route it’s a really really strong year for interior offensive lineman and we have not talked about my guy hunter and brono from Illinois State who we got up there in the top five one of my favorite guy I mean I got a big smile on my face but you know this guy started 29 games and a guy that’s a little bit older for his grade you know he talk about a CO baby here uh but played left tackle against Iowa the next week he plays against Northern Alabama only played two games in 2024 I’m a big fan of this kid a guy that was on the Senior Bowl watch list in terms of what he could do I think his upside is all at guard uh but can play tackle as well so Z brono would be a name the thing there hip laam for an offensive line I mean that that is really tough so I kind of struggle putting him that high but I’m going to trust the tape the other one is Patrick ctis uh from Arkansas who red shirted this year I think played in four games it started 13 games he’s played tackle he’s played guard he’s played center he can do a lot of different things I love this kid as well I mean it’s funny you look at our rankings they’re not sexy we got two big guys up front that I really really like very very versatile uh so I like Zano cudas I think the market is going to have to play out here I think they’re going to be some names that trickle in uh that might be a little bit more appealing than what we see right now what do you think bud I think it’s absolutely well I just think like look it may not be sexy but uh you know it’s not sexy having your quarterback sacked all the time and and if you look at what Arkansas did this year when when cudas was in and when cudas was out like cudas was a major loss for Arkansas that you know wasn’t probably discussed on a week toe basis because once he was out it’s kind of old news but like the impact was continuing for the Hogs and when they struggled a lot of times it was because he was out so I I totally agree with cop I think that is one of the better players there it’s funny that you think that first question came from Andrew Ivans because I feel like this next one did um but it came from Fifth Quarter asking do you foresee any difference Mak Aker tight ends to hit the portal you know Andrew Ivans yes I do there’s one there now Max CLA from Purdue uh kind of reminds me a little bit of Mason Taylor from LSU I mean you think about uh this guy 64 240 went back and forth uh with the number two tight end and saying all right who should we put higher I think this guy is a little bit more traditional of a why and has more pass catching upside than Luc has who we like a lot out of Arkansas as well so I think you look at those two guys uh you go down the board a little bit uh I hope I don’t butcher this but the kid from Ball State uh Tanner coal that we like a lot 6’7 um had multiple games with nine receptions plus from Ball State um so in terms of what you’re looking for from a pass catching tight end that’s what it gives you it gives you a little bit more in the receiving game maybe not as much as an in blocker Colin Weber shout out uh Clint Brewster’s dad at University of Charlotte developing those tight ends uh big fan of him and then Jaden Platt was another kid that we had in the top 247 at Texas s didn’t see the field as much still kind of bullish on his upside Bower sharp from Oklahoma Kamari Anderson more of a traditional why and then you know uh Vari gums from Arkansas still trying to find his way back was a guy that was highly sought out coming out of North Texas didn’t work out at Arkansas but I do think a guy that can be a second or third tight end for a power four team so yes the tight end position is a position that we like a lot and the kid from Purdue and lucaz from Arkansas would be the names that I I would Circle there but I have a question that I want to toss your way this is from inhouse our own Trey Scott uh his his um he’s got a very specific question about his Texas Longhorns here he says that our uh partner at horns 247 Hank South thinks that Texas should break the bank for a backup quarterback in cam Rising he was a former Longhorn s so there is somewhat of a connection there he transferred after the 2018 season yes 2018 he’s been playing football for a long time but the question is this uh Texas’s title window is wide open in 2025 but an injury to Arch Manning could slam it shut so is the Manning Insurance worth it absolutely I mean if Cam Rising is healthy he’s probably actually better than going to play for Texas so I think that would you might have to break the bank so to speak as Hank South said to acquire a starting caliber quarterback to come be your backup but assuming ERS turns Pro or or GES to Notre Dame or or whatever the rumor of the day happens to be uh certainly it is worth bringing in a quarterback to be backup at Texas because Texas is going to be loaded next year and I I agree like your window to win with Arch there are a lot of teams out there like this your window to win might be just one year there’s no guarantee Arch stays for that 2026 season if he arrives a year early which you know if you’re letting C you Quinn Ys walk or or if he just decides to walk uh to the NFL and that has to be a bit of a vot of confidence there in Arch and everything we’ve seen from March so far says you probably should believe in him and believe in the player and in the development I I agree Texas should try to get a backup quarterback for sure can you get a cam Rising like I would kind of want to see cam Rising work out on my campus before I pay a lot of money for him because he hasn’t stayed healthy in like 30 months but uh the player when healthy was a very good player and there was a reason that Utah was the favorite to win the conference this year it was under the assumption that Rising was going to come back healthy and then actually in that first game against was it Baylor yeah they killed Baylor and then until he hit his hand on on the water cooler cart on the sideline and was never the same again after that so yeah agree with that I think Tennessee is in that mix as well to be honest like what if Nico makes a big leap next year in his second year to starter there’s no guarantee you have ni over 26 there are a few teams out there uh like that that probably should be loading up for 25 with the idea in mind that hey what if this quarterback really takes the next step in 25 you don’t want to be left holding the bag thinking about 26 when your time to win is right now yeah I think if healthy cam Rising should be the highest paid backup quarterback in the history of college football that’s that’s kind of the way that I view him you know and like I said I think bud and I would agree on this but you know in terms of NFL upside for cam Rising uh I think it’s limited so it’s all about what he wants right now does he he want to go see the field does he want to play he certainly earned that right uh or is he comfortable kind of taking a back seat and being more of a um you know parachute to one of these contenders we have over a thousand people watching on YouTube and over 42,000 watching on Twitter so thank you so much um our fourth question it may or may not be serious coming from in house as well our boss wants to know if you’re nervous about that many people watching C I’m not nervous at all he’s cool as a CU who is a cucumber I feel good I love it thank you all for watching again if you have any questions you can use the hashtag portal Palo or you can respond directly on our YouTube page um this is something that’s major in college football in terms of the transfer portal this is the future of your squad of the teams that you’re going to face and so there’s a lot of very important things happening today we’ve got another question on YouTube um I’ll toss this to Bud here what will Oklahoma do after losing Jackson Arnold and Nick Anderson I I think it’s interesting because if you look at Oklahoma are they going to be after John mattier like is is that a guy who might want to reunite with his former offensive coordinator Ben Arbuckle there with the Sooners or like they knew that the backup Hawkins was a guy early on in Fall camp like I I I had discussions with people who I think would know at Oklahoma they’re like H if Arnold hits we may have a problem on our hands because the backup he he plays really really well in practice against what turned out to be an elite level Oklahoma defense the offense didn’t hold up its end of the bargain so Oklahoma may have an in-house option there but also John mattier would be an interesting one they’re going to have to probably go out and get another receiver because obviously a couple guys are going to graduate off that team and then they have to do a better job of evaluating offensive linemen uh this year in the transfer portal we we had talked to a couple staffs and they were like kind of wondering what the hell was Oklahoma doing with who they picked last year in the transfer P that wasn’t second guessing like that was first guessing in the off season I me Illinois end up getting a much better player for New Mexico that Oklahoma had on their board because they chose Spencer Brown from Michigan State and they were like uh cool we’ll take it but like what the heck was that and it turned out they were right uh so Oklahoma has to do a better job evaluating offensive linemen this season in the portal and they also this is outside their control they have to stay healthy okay they didn’t do a great job EV Bing but also the injury bug bit them and that is largely random and not their fault so uh can’t really put all the blame on the OU staff for that one I think quarterback offensive line receiver I think any anybody who watched Oklahoma would agree with that just in terms of what they need uh but really quarterback and you know Michael Hawkins did some good things on tape this year but but in a similar way we just talked about it in the last segment about all who are teams that need to win and go all in and that’s kind of got to be the mentality Oakland is one of those teams and you need quarterback play and I think John mattier when you’re dealing with an offensive line I talk about this all the time the offensive line struggles to pass protect the best thing you can have is a quarterback that can scramble improvise and do some things with his legs and that’s exactly what John mattier is that’s what he gives him now you have that continuity with the play caller as well we’ll see what happens if he sticks and if he does stick at Washington State that’s a big blow to OU because I’m looking at the quarterback market right now and Bud you brought up the point about Michael Hawkins uh if you’re looking there it’s like yeah maybe I could get on board with a Wegman I could get on board with you know Daren Minah how much better does that make you at the end of the day I don’t know if that’s two to three wins better which is what Oklahoma needs to be and then the offensive line I think you said it there are actually some pieces on the interior offensive line that I think Oklahoma would be smart to be aggressive with uh and go after pretty hard you got Michael vusi who they signed the fstar offensive tackle out of Lewisville uh so they’ve done some good things there but they got to supplement it as well through the portal yeah we’ve been talking about the John mattier hyp pathetical the only thing that has actually happened is Ben Arbuckle is going to be the offensive coordinator at Oklahoma maters not even in the transfer portal as of uh what is this like almost two o’clock Eastern time so we’ll we’ll continue to track that bud do you have something if if he does go in and assuming that Oklahoma and Miami would have interest which again there’s a lot of assumptions we’re assuming he goes in we’re assuming that both the kanes and the Sooners would have interest but hey it it’s a it’s a Monday in the offseason college football we’re talking portal what do you do if you’re mattier now you have the familiarity uh with the Sooners offense because Arbuckle is going to call it but you also know that the guy who came from your system played pretty well for Miami I’m assuming that the Miami offensive line is almost certainly going to be a lot better than whatever Oklahoma can Cobble together you know receiver wise I think it’s kind of up in the air depending because both teams uh stand to lose a lot at their receiver position but that’s going to be a fascinating Choice assuming the money is close which like maybe we should or should not assume that Miami you know broke the bank this year year for cam Ward but assuming the money’s close do do you pick the canes or do you pick the guy who called the plays for you this year with with the Sooners I will say they they still do have a relationship and and talking to John mattier a few weeks ago ahead of one of their games he said that they kind of have gone back and forth a little bit this year when their stats were very similar in terms of the Yards they were putting up in the touchdowns um so they do have that kind of friendly competition I wonder if Cam Ward is is somebody that would maybe help recruit him to Miami but again we’re just continuing to to dig a little bit deeper into these hypotheticals butd but again nothing has happened um there’s a YouTube question that I can answer for you and by I I mean with help from Clint Brewster um someone on YouTube wants to know who the fastest wide receiver is in the portal and our friend Clint Brewster who works on our portal team said that it is Barry and brown by far he can reportedly run in the four twos so that seems to be um a competition that uh Barry and brown can can do quite well with we’ve got another question here from YouTube all the local shows think CL needs to get a running back from the portal do you see a running back coming to Clemson as a depth piece and who would fit best that is from our friend Shane on YouTube Shane I’ll start with this before I toss it to Cooper Clemson is the only Power four program that took less than four transfer portals or transfer portal players this last cycle um and what’s less than four Bud zero is less than four zero is less than four yes they didn’t take any transfer portal players this last time um but that’s just say that all powerful players power for teams took at least four I when you said Clemson portal I thought that was our code word for commercial break I’m sorry it’s not though do we think they need to get a running back from the portal I mean anybody from the portal I think so Phil MAF is gone right after this year so you kind of look at that position and and what they got coming in and Maris Henderson is a young guy that they like that was in the top 247 uh we’re really high on and and we kind of know dabo’s philosophy here um but let’s say hypothetically they were to go in the portal you think about guys that kind of fit a little bit of Phil mafa and what he brings to the table we talked about fluff bwell earlier from Southern Alabama I think that’d be a young guy that you can grow with develop with as well I think Ahad Hardy from ULM uh Clemson’s done a tremendous job um you know recruiting uh kind of the southeast a little bit Hardy originally from Mississippi it’s going to be interesting to kind of see what he looks like um Malai Hosley from pin is another guy that I think is more of a change of pace back but I like him a lot so there are some guys there and like I said I brought up Malachi Singleton maybe I’m the only one in that boat that thinks he should be a running back um but there’s some guys there if they wanted to go out maybe get a depth piece TJ Harden another name from UCLA they got some options and i’ I’d I’d love to see Clemson be aggressive here because Phil MAF has been a huge part of their offense in terms of what they’ve been able to do there um so a guy like Bothwell Hardy I think would would both make sense Bud we joke I want running back Bothwell okay I mean absolutely like like don’t don’t you think you want to hear davo say the name fluff Bothwell like and just scream it in a postgame interview like that would okay like seriously he actually does have a somewhat similar running style to Phil mafa there’s not a lot of nonsense to it I think he has good contact balance he is if he gets through the first line is able to break it but he’s not a huge Speedster so I think there’s a lot of continuity of of fit there in terms of play style but also I do want to hear davo just say like flu B like that just like a total like cut a wrestling promo post game be awesome it’s hard to sound angry when you’re saying the word fluff but uh I know I do love that we got another question here from YouTube um I’ll I’ll put this one to you bud what position group should Colorado focus on well I think they have to focus probably on defensive back right like you’re going to lose Travis Hunter and obviously they’re they’re losing him as a receiver too because he should win the Hyman trophy because guy killed it this year but they lose a pretty good bit at DB and that’s a group for them that played really well this year defensive line they don’t lose all that much a couple guys are gone but a couple of those dudes I believe have eligibility to come back we in the secondary a lot of those guys were were final year pieces so I think for Colorado especially because the Big 12 will probably return to being a bit of a better Passing League than it was uh this year with some of the young quarterbacks emerging and getting better you’re going to have to beep up that secondary quite a bit and they’ll probably have to change the way they play some coverages when you don’t have Travis Hunter on one side how about quarterback bud I mean we we talked a little bit about Colorado and what it looks like in a post shador Sanders world and I think obviously there’s a lot of excitement around Julian Lewis and understandably so you know I kind of made the pitch earlier why I think it’s better to have you know a bridge quarterback there they’ve been linked uh to some guys like Kaden sulter but I think Colorado with obviously the the personality of a Dion Sanders and you think about his gravity and his gravitational poll I I think Colorado can become a destination spot for quarterbacks to say you know what I got one to two years to kind of get it right I’m going to go learn under Pat shurmer former NFL head coach um this could be a spot that I think is one of the more attractive quarterback spots in the country if you need a one-year rental I kind of thought Conor Wegman made some sense here I don’t know if they’re going down that road um but I thought he’d probably be an ideal fit that’s actually really interesting I I had kind of assumed that they were taking ju guu to start but if they’re not if they want to take a guy like that Wegman would make a lot of sense Colorado schedule is a little difficult for next year by normal Big 12 standards because remember every other year in the Big 12 it rotates how many home and road games you get so in 24 Colorado got the five home games in conference in 25 they have to take five road trips and those are at Houston at Kansas State at TCU at Utah at West Virginia and obviously some of those teams are decent some of them were not very decent at all this year but still that is a little tougher and they draw Georgia Tech in the nonconference which had a really nice season and appears to have some good things going on under Brent key all those games are winnable some of it’s going to be like in-house what do we think we can be would we rather have Juju start and just get the Reps or do we think adding a portal quarterback back is potentially like a plus one or plus two to the wind column if it’s like a plus two projected you know wi column Improvement then you go out and you get a quarterback and you say Juju if you can beat them out cool if not sit and learn but uh if we think it’s close maybe you want to start ju guu speaking of quarterbacks and situations that are bringing in a true freshman quarterback we’ve got a question from YouTube is there a portal QB that would fit Michigan Best I’ll go to you first Co I think Miller Moss is kind of the name that uh originally came up I don’t know if he’s been attached to michig at all we talked about Louisville Missouri uh as a couple names that kind of Mak sense as far as we know he has a visit set up with Missouri and that’s that’s got gotcha so um you know Moss would come to mind I think he’s going to have some options just because he’s a vet guy you saw what he could do this year obviously some ups and downs you know some critical uh late game decision-making that kind of let him down down the stretch but I think Daren mitah is another guy at Tulane that you know I would kind of be intrigued with um the thing there that Michigan would have to balance is talking about a guy that’s going to be a red shirt sophomore so how do you how do you sell him that with Bryce Underwood kind of breathing down his neck you know so I don’t know I don’t know if there’s one fit um that really kind of makes sense other than like you know cam Rising is one of those guys maybe you can talk him going into Michigan and saying hey gam listen you’re you’re really going to be the bridge guy Underwood’s going to push you until he’s ready and um but I think we’re looking at a situation like you mentioned earlier I think it’s going to be gram Ms DJ lagway up until you know they get to a spot where it’s whether because of circumstance or hey he’s just ready to go we got to roll with the younger guy would you put Mendoza in that category as well like he’ll be a what a red shirt sophmore I think so Pro probably the same thing if if he was going to enter I think yeah I got to double check on the uh classification but Mendoza is definitely a name that has popped up for sure that I think a lot a lot more teams out there covet maybe than people really kind of understand so yeah I think he would um definitely be a guy that would kind of pop into the mind right now the Quarterback board to me is just kind of wide open there’s some other dominoes that need to fall for this thing to kind of get shaken up a little bit one more guy to maybe think about here uh is a player who got hurt at the end of 2023 and you know started 2024 as a starter didn’t look right to me uh and but he played really well in 23 at times that that’s that’s Preston stone at SMU a guy who’s not super mobile but is a I think when healthy a pretty good pocket passer so I don’t even know if he’s in the portal yet I just I’m running down a huge list of like possibilities year but he’s not going to get that job back from Kevin Jennings I’m relatively certain given that Jennings just took SMU to the college ball playoff but that could be an interesting kind of reclamation project for Michigan to take a look at and he only has I believe one year left to play I’ve got uh Fernando Mendoza is coming out of Cal he um did red shirt so he has a red shirt sophomore this would be his fourth season but third of Eligibility another question from YouTube uh this one is for Bud specifically I think you can guess why is there any quarterback that can save Florida State and how does Norvell save the sinking ship oh my man Andrew is down bad right now oh man uh no there there’s I I don’t think there’s one quarterback who can save it but there’s also like wild turnarounds in the sport nowadays because the best teams just aren’t anywhere near as good so every game is a little more winnable uh than it used to be if you can get your team to kind of like a minimum you know Baseline level uh you know I would use the example like over the last five years 14 teams according to any like the major power ratings are rated higher than any team is this year so like all the teams this year would have been like five or six seeds in the playoffs in Prior years you know they’re they’re just not quite as talented not quite as good because the talent the sport is so spread out so if you want some hope it’s that you probably have a lot more coin flips then you realize you did lose to multiple playoff teams this year and a lot of teams that ended up you know making bowls and you played poorly and also I think you were like really bad but also like badly unlucky at times too so it’s a great combo uh to have if you want to have a terrible season there’s not really a quarterback I think who is getable who is capable of like saving it but that also depends on what you mean by saving it right does that mean going back to like 11 and one probably not could you go eight and four very possible we’ll see Bud Elliot joining us from the cover three podcast for the last hour we so appreciate it thank you so much uh for adding your great perspective Bud enjoyed it y’all love it all right we’re going to take Well we I’m going to take a quick lunch break C’s going to stick around Brandon Huffman’s going to come in the chair uh but for now we’ll be right back 247 Sports is your home for college football basketball and recruiting 24/7 Sports has you covered with industry-leading shows like Josh P’s college football show the college football recruiting show live commitments and our mass network of podcasts become a VIP and find out what’s really going on with your favorite team with inside information from our experts across the country college football basketball and recruiting find it all on 247sports.com and on YouTube you were tuned in to the 247 Sports transfer portal paloa busy day already Eric Singleton from Georgia Tech jumping in the portal along with barar Alexander former USC in Georgia standout along with fluff bwell from Southern Alabama Jaylen strowman the safety from Virginia Tech Amari Campbell their linebacker from North Carolina who also had a productive season we’re now joined by Brandon Huffman recruiting analyst we also have a promo code portal for 60% off right now is the time to get it Huff college football playoffs they’re here 12 teams in the playoffs and who would have thought Boise State Arizona State little West Coast flavor um let’s start with Oregon I know you’re you’re host in this segment but I’m teeing you up let’s start with Oregon here just in terms of all right how they built this right you’re thinking about how the trans reporter really kind of intertwines with high score recruiting We Know Dan Lanning the danal has been getting after it these last couple years another top five recruiting class but really the portal is kind of where they’re getting it done as well you know it’s not a little West Coast three of the four teams that have playoff buys coup are West Coast teams because where it just means more is out west the Pack 12 two of those former Pack 12 schools and a future Pack 12 school but yeah you know you look at Oregon and I think back to last year’s National Championship Game obviously you’re very familiar with the Washington roster the majority of those players were homegrown players and then Michael penx comes in as a transfer Michigan the majority of that roster homegrown players we look at Oran they’ve done a great job of balancing with players that have come from the portal with then players that were recruited by Dan Landing some uh were left from the Mario Chrystal era but Matel uang Josh Connor Le two of their best players on the offensive and defensive line respectively both homegrown products but you look at the quarterback Dylan Gabriel a transfer you look at their receivers almost all transfers you look in their secondary almost all transfers defensive line a number of transfers and so is the move going to be continuously for Oregon to hit the portal as heavy as they did are we going to see them Tinker with it kind of like Ohio State this year where a number of those players were homegrown products but then they were able to plug in a few players at quarterback at running back at safety out of the portal will that be Dan landing’s philosophy going forward and I think based on what they did in the recruiting rankings this last week and in last year I think they’re going to tend to be more of the we’re going to go pick and choose a few players here and there out of the portal but we want to go homegrown but you look at that roster it’s especially the starting lineup it is heavy on Portal impact players I think over the last two years they have been the best portal program you know just in terms of what they’ve been able to do year in and year out you talk about 14 transfers uh that they took last year and Dylan Gabriel that was that guy we talked about all right well he’s a turnkey guy maybe cam Wards the the potential top 10 pick but in terms of a guy that’s started more games at the quarterback position than anybody else in college football history that was Dyan Gabriel go down the list pton Woodyard gives you some depth Derrick Haron the big man in the middle we always talk about how hard it is to kind of find that beef on the west coast so what do they do they go out they spend heavy on Derek Haron Kobe Savage Dante Moore Jabar Muhammad guy who had a great season there at Washington uh Jamari Caldwell in the middle Evan Stewart I mean you think about all these guys they brought in Matthew bford the other thing that it allows them to do is develop that young talent and those guys be able to sit I mean you got guys like sure like Matteo Ang that have been able to emerge and guys that have been Premier in terms of their pass rushing ability you think about that secondary it’s all transfers right so um the way that they have been able to alleviate maybe some of their long-term concerns with the win now approach going in all year I mean it’s a aim small Miss small mentality you bring in 14 guys and by all means they’ve hit on 80 85% plus of these guys so if you’re Dan Lanning I don’t think there’s any issue going back to the well anywhere from 10 to 14 guys a year no and I think you know when you look at Dante Moore we talked about it earlier in the show where he went there with you know an understanding that he was going to be a backup this year and that Dylan Gabriel was going to run the show he was going to get some significant playing time here and there in blowouts but he went there with the understanding and I think that that’s the difference when quarterbacks leave when players leave and they go to the portal they want to play right away but I think Dan landing’s done such a good job of using the portal wisely that you can go and get a guy like Dante Moore to kind of offset whatever the high school attrition that you had and now you’ve got a quarterback that will be basically TurnKey in 2025 but you know the bigger question is is with Oregon is it going to continue to draw like that we’ you know we talked about a little earlier that you don’t see a lot of the bigname players in the portal like we did a year ago there’s not a lot of those high impact players yet at least and now 12 team playoff is this is kind of buying time where we might see a bigger influx of talent happen you know within the five days after the first round of the playoffs or over or after the quarterfinals are over are we seeing a long-term kind of you know design that maybe they’re not going to have as many big names going to the portal or is it just a temporary theme because you’ve got these teams you don’t want to have a Malik Murphy situation like you did the year ago where he went into the portal knowing Texas was going to need him in the playoffs he was going to be a backup but he had to bet on himself and get on campus are more schools going to be seeing the that Talent leave when they get knocked out of the playoffs or is this kind of trending towards like you said earlier schools are doing a better job playing defense yeah I think it’s going to be a little bit more of a trickle but I think the talent retention is better I mean I think what you’re seeing here you know Chris Hummer put out the piece talking uh to some power for GMS and you know I can’t say the language on the show but um obviously talking about what a mess the portal is I think year-over-year what we’ve seen is this continue to have a little bit more structure I know that sounds crazy now you got the Rev share coming into place as well now you’re see you’re seeing teams play better defense a little bit more prepared I think we’re going to see some names jump in from some of these playoff teams are we going to have six guys that we had rated as Stars I don’t know I don’t think so you know I think there’s a better plan in place for saying all right here’s a vision this is what it’s going to look like this is when you’re going to see the field um and you know with regards to a compensation standpoint this is what we’re going to do to make you feel comfortable maybe for you not seeing the field as early as you want so yeah the other part about this was specifically to Oregon it’s a lot easier to to go into it and say like okay um you know we’re talking about a team that has recruited top six class over the last two years consecutively they’re not going to need to take 14 guys maybe one out of three or four Cycles they will but I think that number will decrease starting next year for the Ducks we’re going to go some breaking news here another quarterback transfer in play as of this morning AJ Duffy who started out his career in Southern California went to IMG signed with Florida state in the 2022 class then transferred to San Diego State he is now going into the portal went to San Diego State thought that he might be the start in the first year Shawn Lewis but Shan Lewis went with some familiarity took his former commit at Colorado Danny O’Neal and ran with him as a starter they already lost Advance Tel Johnson who started a couple of games for the Aztecs earlier in the year to the portal now AJ Dey goes into the portal and he was the number 238 ranked player a top 247 member in 2022 in the lead 11 fist the number 13 quarterback in the country but now looking for home number three after going in the portal uh you know I want to talk about the playoff teams and you know the 12 team playoffs obviously exciting this this weekend was was a blast you had a couple of doozies on Saturday night after some kind of boring games on Friday and Saturday morning but then you have the Georgia Texas game goes to overtime you have Clemson beating SMU to get both those schools into the uh playoff and then obviously Oregon beating Penn State outlasting them one team that was not playing on Saturday but is going to be playing in the playoff is Indiana and we have not seen a large number of power four jobs open in this cycle and I know you’ve theorized on it on the 105 because of the playoff because of the expanded role with Revenue sharing that a lot of schools would rather pivot to keeping their coach we saw statements being made about s Pitman State at Arkansas uh about Billy Napier staying at Florida and then obviously he wins down the stretch but schools that look like a hot seat situation opening things up well not a lot of power for jobs open and yet one that opened last year Indiana the losingest power five school or power four School in history 31 transfers and Kurt Signet Google him if you don’t know who he is Kurt sign brings in 31 transfers and now they’re going to the playoff we we it’s it’s hard to ask who do we see as being next year’s Indiana that can have a one-year turnaround is that possible is that attainable but 31 transfers in then Arizona state which won three games last year and the year before that with 30 transfers a roster littered with transfer portal players and then SMU with 21 players coming in via the portal and I would say if you look at the 12 teams in the playoff I mean Boise State’s never been in the playoff but they were a you know BCS Buster I think three times they were in the BCS and then everybody other other school with the exception of Penn State has been in the playoffs at least once but the three schools that had the most incoming transfers Indiana Arizona State and SMU are the three schools that have never been in the portal or sorry never been in the playoffs but went to the portal can we see turnarounds like that happen again or are these kind of the outliers of the situation Kevin Garnett anything is possible Right Andy Samberg said it as well uh yes we’ve seen it we’ve seen it with Arizona State and listen if you happen with Kurt Signet in Indiana then it can happen pretty much for for everybody right I think we have to adjust our expectations and what is possible in college football that we didn’t think was possible before especially if you’re in a 12 team playoff I mean you look at Indiana what they did last year 31 transfers is is what they’ve taken in now the flip side of that you know you look at Indiana as a team that they’re already a couple guys that we’ve graded in the transfer Portal from that class already na Logan uh being one of them uh you know you go down the Le DJ Bell as well so listen I think Indiana is obviously incredibly pleased uh with what they’ve done what they’ve been able to do and a lot of those guys coming over from JMU and you got to give Kurt cetti and his staff a ton of credit because Indiana is not you know Indiana is one of those teams you could say oh okay well their strength and schedule how they got in they’re a tough team and they played well uh and I think they’re a complete team so you got to give Kurt scetti you got to give Kenny Dillingham a ton of credit for the job that they have done I mean not only flipping a roster that’s extremely difficult and you can throw Deon Sanders in there as well but flipping a culture with all new players is extremely tough and we’ve seen that kind of take a little bit of time I mean you look at Arizona State where were they three and N in their first year you look at Colorado they were 4-8 cetti doing it in year one going 11 and one with Indiana with a team full of new faces is pretty wild we haven’t seen that but because he’s done that absolutely I wouldn’t be shocked if we saw that again is it going to happen every year probably not probably going to be a little bit of an outlier um but what he has done I think shows that it is possible to flip a roster for a team that has not been a big T Contender at all or not even a college football playoff Contender all of a sudden you know a top 12 team of the country you know it’s been fascinating too because there have been schools that have flipped the roster and worked out magically Florida state did it a year ago went back to that well this year did not go well USC the first year of Lincoln Riley went heavy in the portal won 11 games won the Pack 12 or played in the Pack 12 championship game then lost to Utah in the Pack 12 championship game lost its to lane and then last year kind of everything fell apart but went with the portal so there is the danger of dropping off the cliff but there’s also the quick fix that it could make you have some success but yet put you in the playoffs again I don’t think we expected either Indiana or Arizona State to be playoff teams we didn’t expect Indiana to be essentially an that large team you would have thought in the Big 10 it would have been you know the Ohio State the Penn States maybe Michigan we didn’t expect Michigan to have as much of a drop off but Indiana cly I want to talk about Arizona State because they are loaded with players that came in from other schools and you think about the situation with Sam levit you know we talked about it in earlier in the show him coming in when Jaden rashada looked like he was a guy Jaden rash’s dad played at Arizona State he starts the season opener has some injuries but then Sam levit comes to Arizona State and does so well in the spring talking to Chris Cartman this offseason he said keep an eye on Arizona State this roster is going to be good and you know like you said it’s one thing to get players out of the portal it’s one thing to get them to buy into the cro but then also meshing all of that Talent on the offensive side of the ball on the defensive side of the ball remember in 2023 Bo baldon started out the year as the offensive coordinator at Arizona State Kenny dingham took the role Midway through the season but then he hired Marcus a Royo in the off season and the way Marcus Ayo and Sam Levan and Kenny Dillingham had made that work at Arizona State what a what a great job they’ve done but it’s not just Sam levit you look at their receiver Jordan Tyson who until he got hurt was their leading receiver cam scabo an FCS player who’s come out and been you know in the conversation is one of the top two or three running backs in the country offensive line Leaf alanu you know player that you’re familiar with Xavier Giller who and Jordan Tyson went down Xavier gillery another FCS transfer was that Idaho State comes in and picks it up zavon Alford a transfer miles Rouser a transfer so a roster that it wasn’t just a couple of key places it was almost the entire roster on both sides of the ball were transfers and it’s worked to the point where they get the big 12 championship in year one they were picked dead last win the Big 12 get a playoff Buy and you see the energy you see the just the emotion that Kenny Dillingham coaches with and it’s it’s contagious 60 plus transfers over the last two years you know so you think about that what they’ve been able to do and uh hey you know what Huff I want to give a little bit of a shout out to your son Arizona State player Personnel hey he’s got something to do with it right so uh Arizona state has done a tremendous job I think the biggest thing when you’re when you’re talking about you know taking 60 players two years via the transfer reporter we talked about the cultural element about this but Kenny Dillingham man just in terms of what he’s done he talked about bringing a competition program he’s one of those guys that I was like I don’t know I got to give him a ton of credit right so uh when you think about him and and what he’s been able to do he’s been able to breathe life into that program and you could tell it means so much to him as Arizona State grad as well um the cultivation I think when you start talking about the mass quantity is maybe the most impressive trait of a Kurt scetti or Kenny Dillingham getting these guys to believe and say hey we’re all moving in One Direction and sure we might all have individual agendas here but we have a singular vision for what we’re trying to accomplish at our time at Arizona State you got to give a ton of credit uh to Kenny Dillingham and his staff well another player that was a former he’s an Alum and he’s coaching School Brent key lost one of his receivers this offseason Eric Singleton and we have breaking news from Matt zenet Eric Singleton who left Georgia Tech plans to visit Georgia in the next few days a source tells our Matt zenet so that’s pretty significant it’s big news and uh we’ve been talking about it throughout the day I mean Eric Singleton one of those guys I believe ranked number six in the Porto right now there’s a conversation for him to be the number one player in the Porto I think kind of floating around that day two day three range in terms of what he offers um but Georgia is one of those programs we said it’s going to have to manufacture some receiver production they brought in Kobe young they brought in Dominic LoveIt they brought in London humph all right now where does Eric Singleton kind of fit into this piece he’s more uh in terms of of what we’ve seen uh lad makoni right you talk about that suddenness that initial quickness that ability to create consistent separation and then what does it look like for a quarterback outside of Carson Beck who’s going to be the guy is it going to be gunar Stockton obviously we’ve been impressed with him what he was able to do in the second half against Texas in the SEC Championship you got Jaden Rashad there as well former highly touted recruit so Eric Singleton one of the best players in this class regardless of position would be a huge pickup for Georgia you can’t understate that enough at a position of need uh so I’m not shocked to see Georgia being Ultra aggressive here well and the thing with Georgia is that they’re a team that only had 11 incoming transfers this offseason okay so you look at the Arizona States the indianas and they high volume of transfers Georgia has been a main stay in the top two or three in the recruiting rankings and they’ve only picked and chose who they want to come in be the portal it’s one or two impact players here and there on the offense one or two on the defense side of the ball so when Kirby Smart goes after a player in the portal it’s for an expectation that we need you to come in and be an impact guy 100% you know and here’s the biggest thing he’s probably looking at that game against Texas which they were able to squeak out a win in in that one and you think about you know what they were able to do in that game or what they weren’t able to do in that game Arian Smith another guy that I think struggle with drops throughout the game so you look at Georgia what they need to get done at the receiver position ER Singleton you understand why he would be such a priority and like I said one of the more Dynamic run after catch uh vertical receivers in the country so uh Eric Singleton Georgia and quite honestly let’s be honest here this is probably something they’ve been working on for quite some time uh finally get them to jump in the portal and uh certainly a name that if you’re a Georgia Bulldog fan you should be excited about well some more breaking news this was broken by Chris trino of USC foot.com USC right tackle Mason Murphy has entered the portal he’d been the starter at right tackle for the Trojans this year now the offensive line was a kind of Hit or Miss at times for USC and with a player that was more of a pocket passer in Miller Moss at times that that was an issue with Jaden mava a little bit more athleticism and ability to move around in the pocket which is kind of been what Lincoln rley has wanted when he was at Oklahoma he wanted those quarterbacks that can keep plays going with their legs but USC with the offensive line kind of being a little bit of a problem Mason Murphy had been a main stay at the offensive line and at a right tackle for the trojs kind of forcing USC to go back into the portal even though they’ve had some success in the high school ranks on the offensive line losing a an offensive tackle like Mason Murphy could push them back to looking in the portal that’s a tough spot to live right because we talked about it the majority of the offensive line beef is on the inside uh a cudas or a zimano could play tackle maybe USC is is very aggressive there I think the other part about this is going into the portal for an offensive tackle is not where you want to live ideally uh Mason Murphy you know is a guy that we recruited out of Washington I think a guy that could play tackle could play guards got some flexibility um you know winnable player I think he’s struggled at times so USC I think they’ve been in this position before but you know guys like Elijah pagee that they’ve recruited Aaron Dunn right can he play early that’s asking a lot of a of a freshman from Utah um but USC obviously in this position maybe a guy like Cory Robinson stands out Carver Willis from Kansas State uh Derek Simmons kid that I think is going to be over recruited coming out of Western Carol Ina cuz he can play tackle he can play guard he can do a lot of different things so um going to be interesting to see here because as of right now the tackle Market uh is not in a place if you’re a contender or if you’re in win now mode like USC where you’re like all right I feel comfortable about this you’re probably going to have to overpay a guy that you don’t really feel that comfortable with as a player I want to get back to the playoff talk and the schools that built their programs in the portal well one school that has been known to not even look at the portal has been Clemson zero portal players out of the portal in 2024 and yet Dabo gets the last laugh winning the ACC getting into the playoffs CP with the decision to not hit the portal hard and Clemson had one of their lowest rated recruiting classes in quite some time yet here they are in the playoff does this confirm that dbo is doing it the way he wants to do it and there’s no need to change by making the playoff or does the 9 and3 season losing a couple of home games does that maybe prompt him to be a little bit more aggressive in the portal I mean he’s he’s definitely uh confirmed doing it the way that he wants I think we know that um you know I think the biggest thing with the portal is Dab’s going to sit there and listen he this gu earned this with however what what are we talking about nine 10 ACC titles that he’s won he’s won two national championships if I was dabos Sweeney and I heard all that out outside noise uh even if it had Merit to it I I’d say let’s put it on pause um but you know you look at Clemson and what they’ve done and you look at the recruiting class and the recruiting class sit number 27 and that’s kind of where I’m like all right listen listen if you’re only going to recruit the high school ranks and we talked about it a little bit earlier how Bill bich talked about high school as Z NFL draft and then the transfer portal is free agency and how they supplement each other if you’re building only through the draft that’s that’s difficult right then you’re talking about your margin for eror being incredibly Slim in terms of what you have to do on the high school side so if I’m a Clemson fan yes I’m a little nervous yes a great to win an ACC Championship the ACC in terms of the league right now uh in terms of them being ble to navigate it it’s it’s frustrating because on one end Tavo can continue to win 10 games Win ACC championships get in the playoffs we’ll see how much of a contender they look like when they played Texas on the other end you see this window of opportunity for Clemson I think the other thing that Dabo has built is an incredible culture and he’s so protective over that I also think spot recruiting like Georgia has done taking 8 to 10 guys a year you can be one of the biggest port destinations in the country they have yet to turn that faucet on I’m in I’m uh very intrigued to see if Clemson ever goes that route if that’s something that he’s actively considering um and then the point is you know quantity quality you only took 15 guys this year so the pressure mounts not only on those players mounts on your coaches as well you’ve seen Wesco TJ Moore those guys thrown into the fire and I’ll tell you this man Clemson’s one of the better evaluating programs in the country um but at some point it it can catch up to you so I think they’re kind of threading the needle right now in terms of program Outlook where it’s going and the way that they’re recruiting you know you mentioned spot recruiting out of the portal only five of the 12 playoff teams had less than double digits incoming portal players uh including that mix was Ohio state with seven now the majority of that roster that returned this year was homegrown talenta egbuka obviously Jeremiah Smith coming in as a true freshman but the running backs equation on Judge was a transfer will Howard was a transfer Caleb DS was a transfer but Ohio state does not really spend as much time in the portal as some of their Brethren that are in the to in the playoffs um but when Ohio state does seem to go into the portal it is at an impact player obviously with Caleb DS coming over when Nick Sabin retired getting Julian S to come in who now may be the number two quarterback with the departure of Devin Brown um in In Contention to be the starter but do you think Ohio state with all the attention paid to this roster that they developed this year and I know you and Andrew ivas have talked about this consistently on the 105 of the roster management what do Ohio State’s move 0 and4 in the last four years against Michigan have not won a big 10 Championship since 2020 they went to the portal for a few guys what is the move for Ryan day when it comes to the portal I don’t know it’s psychological it’s got less to do with the talent you know uh just in terms of what that looks like and um you know you think about Ohio State what they’ve been able to pluck out of the portal you talked about Judkins probably going to be a day two draft piit Caleb DS probably going to be a top 10 draft choice right Julian Saiyan guy that uh you know our team loved coming out of Carl’s Bad in in San Diego uh Seth mcclaflin they get from Alabama so you know they Plug and Play four starters there not to mention will Howard coming over from Kansas State it was all meant to go all in this year and win now here’s the beautiful thing ultimately at the end of the day and there’s going to be a lot of buck fans that push back on this it’s about winning the national championship this thing’s wide open in my opinion I I know we’re not supposed to get in the onfield talk Ohio state is one of the most talented teams in the country and if it breaks right for them they can still win this thing we’ll see what happens against Tennessee in the first round um but you know they’re incredibly capable what’s going on with Michigan I think it’s more The Trenches you know both sides of the line of scrimmage and I I here’s the thing Michigan plays that game they play it with the confidence that they’re going to win uh Ohio State plays that game it’s something lingering in the back of their head I don’t think it’s a talent thing I I don’t I don’t think there’s anything that Ohio State’s got to go back to the drawing board Mark Mark Panton his group have done a tremendous job I mean you talk about just the standard of consistency of Excellence when it comes to high school recruiting that is Ohio State um and being able to supplement that sprinkle in some guys like Judkins and Caleb DS and and Walker Howard you could probably say all right should they have gone after cam Ward over over Howard uh will Howard excuse me me yeah I I could get on board with that but ultimately at the end of the day this is what the team was supposed to look like well some more breaking news speaking of reading backs and the Big 10 Quinton Joiner USC running back who was the number four running back in the 2023 class has entered the transfer portal with the emergence of Woody marks this year Quinton joiner’s numbers were amount of carries weren’t necessarily as high as they had been however he did lead the Big 10 in yards per carry at 7.6 a top five running back in 2023 got to think with the emergence of asan JY this year in cam scabo the running back might become more of a position of value again absolutely and you look at the running back Market here I think Quinton joner is probably going to be one of the more sought after names probably slide in around 88 89 for us so um you know you talk about a guy that we were really really familiar with as a former top 247 standout you mentioned rush for less than 500 yards but USC’s always been really a committee backfield you mentioned Woody marks who came over from Mississippi State um you know jiner is a guy that I like and I think for him being from Texas I can see one of those Texas programs saying okay this kind of fits here what are we going to do at the running back position I don’t know why Texas Tech kind of jumps into my head here um but Quint Jer I think pound-for-pound uh one of the more solid backs currently in the portal and another just kind of indication that with Lincoln Riley doing a great job of recruiting outside of the State of California or I guess I should say spending a lot of time outside the state of California he goes into Texas where he obviously had plenty of familiarity this was part of the class his first full class at USC when he got Quinton Jer to come in but we saw USC kind of emphasize out of state recruiting and Lincoln Riley even went on record and said you know there doesn’t necessarily need to be a focus on our backyard when we’re a national brand we recruit in the South we can recruit in the state of Texas and yet a lot of those commits that they got from the state of Texas and from the south ultimately decommitted and went elsewhere now you’re seeing Mason Murphy is a southern California but now Quinton Joiner going in the portal philosophically what does he need to do with their recruiting class having some players that you you know you brought it up on the recruiting show on the sunny day show they had less players in the top 15 in California than Alabama and Texas andm and the same amount of players from the state of California the top 15 as Penn State yeah pretty crazy I I I was pretty vocal about it on the Signing Day show because I think USC is a major missed opportunity here with what they can do in their backyard Huff you covered this region you know the type of players that come out there I think you and I could probably go down a list of guys that we’ve had in the top 247 and you know you listen to people and they talk and they say oh it’s a seven on seven State you’re not giving California enough credit in terms of what they’re bringing out every year you know um you know we’ve watched Kingston vly amasa go we’ve watched Madden Faro Go I mean you go down the list of certain guys that have come out of that State uh that you would say if you’re Lincoln Riley in USC why would you not recruit the state of California just doesn’t make a lot of sense to me so that being said I you got to give credit where credits to they have a top 15 class I think this is a win atall cost type of year for L and Riley he’s got to prove that he’s got the chops philosophically that what he’s doing is making sense so we’ll see what happens in 2025 all right well let’s take a quick look at some of the more recent grades that have gone in for portal entries ran ster with an 89 CLE Luben with an 89 both a couple of defensive players terion Stewart at an 88 Chand La Mor 87 leing North Texas TCU Oklahoma previously brillan braaton at number 86 those are the most recent entries you can see more of the grades that CP you’re working on doing double duty right now putting those grades in continue to use the promo code portal for 60% off while we’re on the air for another few more hours promo code portal for 60% off of subscription of an annual VIP membership as part of our transport pter paloa we also have some more breaking news speaking of USC and Georgia Wide Receiver Michael Jackson III who was originally from Las Vegas went into the portal last year started his career out at USC transferred to Georgia he is going back into the portal the question will be for him does he come back West he had some ties into the Georgia program with David Hill a former assistant at his high school before he went to USC and now David Hill on staff at Georgia but now Michael Jackson goes into the portal so Georgia could be adding receivers but they’re also losing another receiver yeah big fan of this guy and then you know when they brought B him in I think it was more of a depth play I I think Michael Jackson kind of served his role for the Bulldogs and what you thought kind of reminded me a little bit of Kyle Ford uh maybe not as big but just tough you know the way that he can play over the middle so I think he can provide some value whether or not he wants to go to the power four ranks I think there’s opportunity for him at the group of five ranks that’s what I would say he’s probably hunting snaps at this point but a guy out of what pin broke primes uh Nevada about that little throwback um but Michael Jackson a name that I’ve always liked just tough you know maybe not the most dynamic in terms of tight end speed or top end speed excuse me but the ability to play in the short to intermediate being able to bring some um you know dependence to that receiver room I think is those are kind of the attributes that I look at with him and you mentioned Kyle Ford remember Kyle Ford left USC after the 2022 season went to UCLA in 2023 and then returned to USC in 20124 with the news that Chiron were Hudson is going into the portal for this last season could USC be in the work for a Michael Jackson return we’ll see but he has gone into the portals uh speaking of a player who went started out at a former Pack 12 school went into the portal in the Big 12 dejon stribling out of Oklahoma state will be entering the portal as a grad transfer more breaking news on that with stribling who was a bright spot in a very miserable season offensively for Mike Gundy at Oklahoma State replacing both of his coordinators replac in the offenseive coordinator uh a school to keep an eye with stribling is University of Hawaii he’s from the state of Hawaii but the caliber of player that he is is going to open up power four doors however one school to keep an eye on there besides Hawaii would be unlb with Nick Ric’s name being thrown around as a potential candidate for the head coaching job now vacated with Barry odm going to Purdue and Brendan Maran is obviously going to get a big push from from the locals being a big part of that offensive Resurgence the last couple years maybe he gets the job but rolovich was a candidate when Barry odm got the job two years ago if rolovich could get that head coaching job he recruited stribling to Washington State when he took the job in Pullman in 2020 had recruited him when he was at Hawaii but there figures to be a big Mark for stribling 52 receptions 882 yards and six touchdowns like I said for an offense that really just could never get on track this season for I was about to say you’re on an island on this one I don’t know too much about this cat I haven’t dug in yet but uh breaking some news potentially with the Rolo UNLV as a as a potential landing spot that’s one to put a pin on I again I assume that BR and Mar is going to get the biggest p there being the offensive coordinator with Tulsa his Alma moer going in a different direction uh but Nick rolovich knowing that he was a candidate in 2022 when Barry odm ended up being hired potentially unlb and remember he was an offensive coordinator at Nevada did not get really any attention there when they ended up hiring Jeff Cho so maybe he goes to unlb and tries to keep things going there uh but one to keep an eye on obviously is dejon stribling who figures to be a hot commodity in a a pretty wide receiver heavy portal class right now uh but again again very productive with Oklahoma State not having the season and again this is a guy that he’s got one year of Eligibility so it’s going to be a plug-and play expectation and there’s going to be some schools but when you look at the portal who are some schools you think maybe just be one receiver away from being the difference between seven and five eight and four te to putting themselves in the conversation for the playoffs that’s a great question uh I think initially Georgia comes to mind and and you know they might be already down the road here with Eric Singleton you know a top 10 player in the portal and number three receiver in the portal a guy that we love I think one of the more Dynamic receivers in the portal uh they’ve been linked to Dane key as well so I would expect them to be aggressive I’m kind of interested what what happens with Oregon right I mean you think about Evan Stewart could go to the NFL uh TZ Johnson tra Holden uh Terrence Ferguson they’re going to lose a lot of production and they got young guys uh that they like Jer on dicki one of those names but you know the other team that kind of comes to mind what’s Michigan doing at receiver you know you bring in a guy like Andrew Marsh they got guys like Parker Washington uh they did some nice things via the high school ranks but what does it look like from a college football portal standpoint I think Michigan right now has shown that they’re one of the most aggressive teams in the country when it comes to nil so we talked about it how do you surround Bryce Underwood with all the things that he needs to be successful we talked about what Oklahoma didn’t do how do you learn from that put this young guy in the best position to be successful if you’re going all in with the quarterback you might as well go all in everywhere else so receivers actually deep position in in this class uh I’d like to see Michigan get pretty aggressive here speaking of going in with all quarterbacks uh of the 12 teams in the playoffs six have a portal quarterback now one of those Quinn urz is entering his third or entering he’s wrapping up his third year as the starter for the Longhorns but Oran with Dylan Gabriel portal player Sam Lev at Arizona State out of the portal will Howard Ohio State Curtis shoken Indiana and then Riley Leonard at Notre Dame a year after they got Sam Hartman out of the portal from Wake Forest went back into the ACC to get Riley Leonard but you mentioned the a little earlier you were talking about how the spot recruiting in the portal was important a lot of times you had a Young quarterback that is going to be the guy at some point just might not be the guy just yet and obviously with Texas they had Arch Manning so when Quinn Urus came in I don’t think Arch had even committed to Texas uh but you look at Oregon they’ve got Dante Moore back you know they had some talent but Notre Dame with CJ Carr at quarterback they bring in Riley Leonard they’re not ready to turn it over to CJ Carr they’ve got other quarterbacks there as well but Riley Leonard coming in takes him to the playoff get over that one loss to NIU at home and now they’re they’re a playoff team is Notre Dame a team that you could see going back to the portal are they ready to turn it over to one of their younger guys I think they’re ready to to hand the keys off man I I think Notre Dame doesn’t get enough credit for what Marcus Freeman has done since he has arrived and you got to give credit to to Gin guli you got to give credit uh to Mike Den Brock the offensive coordinator over there and what they’ve been able to do I mean you think about the arms that they’ve been able to bring in all right so uh Sam Hortman at first right uh kind of puts you in a position to compete for a playoff spot the next year you bring in Riley Leonard uh the marriage between him and den Brock has certainly gotten better throughout the year and then you think about all right well now we got a young guy in car and we talked about the the balance of all this in terms of all right well you know what does it look like uh with the expectations managing expectations and now you got a room with CJ Carr Steph jelly will will probably be in the portal Kenny minie that we like a lot um and Blake Hebert that they bring over that they flip from Clemson so the way that they have managed this has kind of been a quarterback Master Class um and I think it’s going to be CJ Carr but I think they’re going to have some healthy competition in that room and they’re not playing these guys until they’ve seen enough and they feel like they’re ready right so when you talk about managing the portal along with the high school side of recruiting I think Notre Dame has done a phenomenal job with that uh in the results show outside of one blemish against Northern Illinois Notre Dame’s right where they’re supposed to be this Saturday the Heisman Trophy will be awarded in New York City and one of the players that will be in the Big Apple this weekend is Ashton Genty so why do we bring him up well a year ago he was a name that many people thought would go into the portal originally from the state of Texas went to Boise State had a great first two years but a lot of people thought okay there’s no way he’s staying at a G4 School G5 school he’s going to go into the portal he’s going to command a large number and he’s going to make a good team great he did that at Boise by staying with the Broncos Spencer Danielson shout out fellow zusa Pacific cougar Alam keeping him and now he’s been you know arguably one of the two most electric players in college football going to win every running back award that’s available do Walker lock and be in contention for the player of the year but when we think the group of five schools we’ve see a number of players that have jumped from a group of five to a power of five we saw with crsh work this offseason making the move from Ohio to Indiana changing the fortunes of Indiana with crit zetti but are there going to be group of five players that stay at their group of five School in this era like asht and DTI is he going to be somewhat of a unicorn maybe he was a unicorn in that he was a fourstar a very talented player who went to group of five school been plenty of written about that but is he going to be an outlier in the fact that when those G5 guys have the opportunity to move to a power five and change their economic situation are morg going to go to make that move or will we see more Ashton jenty type situation I think Ashton jenty is going to be an outlier you know and you think about Boise State um just in terms of you know I think Boise state is in a unique position where they felt like all right we have a college football playoff contending team here and if we get Ash and Genty back then we feel confident about us being able to meet those expectations you know the other thing about Genty I believe correct me if I’m wrong I think he followed his recruitment military family so once he made that commitment he was sticking uh regard regardless of the world that we live in uh today so a tremendous amount of respect for him seeing it through but you see some of these other guys and with respect to them I mean you think about this uh a Bothwell or a Hardy at the running back position two tremendous talents there um those are teams that were not competing for a cfp I think jenty a little bit different of his situation um and from you know what I would expect at least in my mind is that Boise State was probably able to put something comparable on the table from a financial standpoint knowing that they had a Heisman Trophy uh potential winner there and how how about this I mean whatever the compensation is you got to think Boise from a national perception standpoint getting a Heisman Trophy winner at Boise State it kind of pays for itself so whatever money you’re paying Ashton jenty to be able to tote that uh later on in recruitments and while you’re trying to get some of these running backs um that’s a big deal as well a little bit of a bargaining chip there you know I’ve said it for years that Boise state is not unlike Gaga in that they’re this Northwestern school that doesn’t have necessarily the Deep Pockets that some of their Brethren but they’ve been the most consistent program out west really since the the turn of the century in 2000 and being able to hold on to a nation remember they Utah I think was the first school that ever made the BCS that was at a group of five when they were in the Mountain West but Boise State always a BCS Buster but we have more breaking news while we talked about one receiver leaving Oklahoma State according to our Mike roach Oklahoma wide receiver Nick Anderson will be entering the transfer portal played in 13 games last year in 2023 had 10 touchdowns but this year just played in one game due to injury originally was the number two wide receiver the number five overall Prospect in the transfer portal but LSU ol Miss and Florida all in play for Nick Anderson sounds about right I mean you think about those schools all SEC schools uh let’s start with LSU LSU in terms of what they’re missing there I think Kiren Lacy uh CJ Daniels in the portal as well and then you think about Old Miss too I mean going to lose a lot of production Trey Harris off to the NFL juice Wells uh was not the result that I think they hoped they would get uh Watkins has broken out for them as well all three of those guys now off to Sundays and then Florida you know I talked about this with Bryce Underwood I would expect Florida to be really really heavily in the mix here because they’re going to try to surround DJ lagway with all the weapons possible because now all of a sudden who would have thought seven and5 Florida Billy AER coming back for another year and now you’re looking at a team that wants to compete not only for a college football playoff spot but for a national championship so how you do that you go get him a big X receiver that can do a lot of different things uh they’ve done a tremendous job uh at the receiver position in the portal uh with what they’ve done over the last couple years so um they have something to show Nick Anderson all these schools do LSU oh miss uh he’s going to have the pick of the litter here Florida State making moves last week bringing in Tony white the defensive coordinator at Nebraska in for their defensive coordinator role well he’s going to have to replace a linebacker with Chris Hummer reporting that linebacker Omar Graham Jr intends to enter the NCA transfer portal leaving Florida State former three star player who was a part of a defense that was much maligned this year uh obviously there was major changes necessary there 39 tackles this year one sack three tackles for loss but as we talked about earlier with barl Alexander defensive lineman seemingly find a place linebackers seemingly find a place on rosters so even with pedestrian statistics there still figures to be somewhat of a market for Graham yeah I don’t blame him at all because it is a super thin linebacker class at least what we’ve seen right now Mari cble from North Carolina jumped in the portal uh a little bit earlier today that’s a name that we really like you look at bangley CRA he’s already committed uh to Kansas left South Carolina a little bit earlier in the season Josiah troter uh uh Brian Parham as well from from Washington SE Hala uh from Boston College so you look at these guys there’s not kind of one guy where you’re like all right maybe at a late day three draftable grade uh Graham one of those guys not so familiar with with the tape obviously know the reputation I think jumped in the portal last year briefly came back um so this is one of those guys that I think will benefit from the lack of names in the current market we’ll see if it stays that way um but certainly if you have a need at the second level he’d be one of the names at the top of the list North Texas losing another player to the portal as well wide receiver DT Sheffield according to Chris Hummer and Matt zenet he will be entering the portal and another blow for North Texas where they’re back in the bowl again this year but North Texas has done a great job and you know you mentioned Clemson earlier and they good evaluation North Texas has done a phenomenal job of evaluating under their previous staffs uh they had the twins Grayson Murphy um and his brother twin brother both with UCLA ended up being all Pack 12 defensive lineman so North Texas and that’s kind of you know going back to the ashon Genty situation G5 schools have the ability to evaluate and make a little bit more of a better evaluation and development but it’s holding on to those guys after they produce that I know becomes a very frustrating part of being at a G5 school you don’t have the pockets that are deep like the power of five schools you did the best job of evaluating you did the best job developing them and now they’re leaving for greener pastures right I I I think what’s going to be interesting about this for the group of five schools is kind of like all right what does it look like from a revenue share standpoint how much money do we have allocated to be able to kind of keep some of these key players at the quarterback receiver position that North Texas has lost today in the meantime it’s a little bit just kind of uh how the food chain Works in college football you know you’re talking about these group of five programs I mean the guys that we’ve talked about today I mean you can go down the list of group of five players uh that are really kind of the top of the board for us and you know the fluff Bothwell mod Hardy from ULM you got guys in the ivys popping up all over the place right so um going to be interesting to see all right is there a course correction for some of these g5s and is there actually a path to being able to retain and compete against some of these power forward teams as obviously um you know we we’ll kind of see how college football progresses here and evolves with the ref share coming up here soon DT Sheffield figures to get plenty of attention this last season in the American Athletic Conference led the conference in touchdown receptions with 11 was third with 66 receptions and tied for third with 822 receiving yards in 2024 so a very productive player you kind of hammered the point home about productivity over projection and this is a player that’s been pretty productive and figures to be a guy that’s going to be a hot commodity North Texas losing receiver DT sheffeld to the portal now I want to go back to to revisit the playoff discussion and talk about some of the other schools that have used the portal very well and staying in the state of Texas SMU has used the portal of the third most incoming portal players of a team in the playoff of 21 they did lose 17 players to the portal but Rett Lashley has built a very good program in year one coming within a field goal 56 yard field go that going to overtime to potentially win the ACC title was a nice kick it was a beautiful kick and the confidence and the wink I don’t know if you saw the kids tweet afterwards but it was just the Winking eye emoji uh and we got to see Dabo celebrate R Lashley did not celebrate on Saturday but did on Sunday when they made the playoffs but with SMU now making that move to the ACC and showing that they can compete in that conference given the fertile recruiting base in which they sit in Dallas in the state of Texas will they be hitting the portal as hard do you think or do you see more of an adjustment to let’s hit the recr remember they were the ones that had a commitment from Kon Russell from the jump so great evaluation early just couldn’t hold on to him but will their philos philosophy be changing and they still want to kind of hammer home staying home and building something from within I I think now SMU has proof of concept maybe something that they didn’t have last year I mean obviously competing in the American Athletic but if you were to tell Rhett Lashley hey you were going to be in the ACC championship against Clemson and you’re going to be in the playoffs uh and have an opportunity to compete um you know in Happy Valley against Penn State one of the better teams in the country best case scenario um so what this has done has really kind of flipped smu’s recruiting strategy on its head and that’s something that already begun uh before the season really started you look at SMU what they did this year uh they finished 32 which I think is good I think SMU is going to climb into that top 25 really kind of be one of those uh top 25 type of ACC teams I think we can see a similar climb to what we’ve seen with Brent key and Georgia Tech um but you look at what they’ve done over the last couple years I don’t have the exact numbers on me 21 transfers last year in terms of what they brought in they brought in a lot of guys especially on the offensive line talk about savan bird a guy that was highly touted out of Oklahoma the other side PJ Williams that came from Texas S&M we talked about brashard Smith the position ch from receiver to running back Rett lashley’s got it good man not only from a compensation standpoint but he’s got Deep Pockets there in SMU those guys want to win um and you look at the teams that have the commitment to winning that’s a good place to be so SMU is kind of in a unique spot now where they can say Hey listen we’re year one in the a ACC we’re one play away from winning the championship and we’re in the playoffs uh we’re in a really good spot as a team to Make Some Noise year in and year out and be the team represents the ACC so ACC outside of Cam Ward’s gone FSU coming out of the the spot that they had last year the ACC is wide open and that’s why I think you see teams like Georgia Tech SMU be ultra aggressive but to your question about hey how does this really kind of change their portal philosophy I think they can be a little bit more choosy and they’ll get through the high score ranks which I think it was smart I think they did this the right way well more breaking news from the transfer portal wire according to his own social media Nebraska defensive lineman K Davis will be entering the transfer portal now he had kind of a circus of recruitment was committed to Washington I think he was originally committed to Arizona then flipped to Washington then decommitted from Washington ultimately chose Nebraska although it looked like he was going to UCLA then the rumors started to pop up that Chip Kelly might be leaving goes to Nebraska well big reason for that was Tony white recruiting him to Nebraska and getting him with Tony we departure for Tallahasse to Florida State Davis has gone the portal uh we’ve already seen one defensive player from Nebraska follow Tony white to Florida State potentially Davis going in and then some other breaking news to touch on Adam schfer is reporting that Anthony Beck is interviewed for the West Virginia head coaching job he’s currently the St Louis battle Hawks head coach in the UFL his son rockco Beck obviously took Iowa State to the Big 12 championship game but Anthony Beck interviewing for the West Virginia head coaching job that’s been kind of an interesting job when it came open with Neil Brown we saw Rich Rod’s name linked back but now Anthony Beck another former West Virginia player potentially a candidate yeah you had Rich Rod you had Jimbo fiser I mean was that I think people were even saying oh Nick Sab might consider it obviously being from West Virginia that’s not going to happen uh now Beck you know which it sounds like shefer was saying he’s had some NFL consideration as well with the battle Hawks and St Louis I think there with AJ McCarron um so yeah interesting development there with West Virginia’s situation I want to talk a little bit about Nebraska right because you think about Nebraska what they had the portal and you think about this team and you know there’s been some conversations about Dylan riola what’s his future look like in Lincoln you know Prince Will Umami Ellen was a guy obviously the top name in the portal right now I think maybe some fans uh in Nebraska would kind of scoff at that and I understand with the lack of production um but a guy here that I really want to talk about top 12 player uh in the portal James Williams um you know was a former Joo guys 6′ 7 uh 25060 lbs hovering around there this guy had five sack last year so you talk about more production than uman Mellen we had some conversations maybe going even higher on him um but we like this kid a lot two different players in terms of what they bring to the table this dude’s going to play on Sundays he’s been linked to FSU already they’ve obviously had some success with some pass rushers in the past Marvin Jones Jr last year uh obviously him and Patrick Peyton didn’t have the year that they wanted uh but even before that Germaine Johnson as well so um you know this James Williams kid Oman Mellen uh EMT Johnson I heard some things whether or not he’s going to actually stick in the portal uh Nebraska uh Kentucky um some of these schools man it’s been Arkansas it’s been it’s been tough sleding because some of these guys you see in the portal you’re like wow I I think any team in the country would love to have these guys and I think that’s what’s fascinating about the some of the names that kind of emerg guys that weren’t necessarily big names coming out of high school guys that maybe went the FCS route or went smaller school route become hot Commodities and you see you know we’ll talk more about that later with FCS players that have made that move I mean shoot the Heisman Trophy front runner by the letter of the law Coupe is an FCS transfer in Travis Hunter who originally signed with Jackson State but that’s what kind of the the portal does it does it allows for a lot of recalibration okay players get developed and they go to another school where they’re not really highly thought of Jared verse comes to mind and you’re seeing the value of players you look at one of the the highest rated players in the portal right now uh being an offensive line l in from Illinois state or Southern Illinois um hunters and bran hunters and brano and all of a sudden everybody in the country wants a piece of him and that’s what the portal allows for much to the Chagrin of the G5 schools and the FCS schools like I said earlier they do a great job of identifying evaluating and developing but they can’t hold on to them do you want your roster to have too many players that made the jump from the SCS to the FBS level I think it’s about being selective I mean what’s interesting and we we talked about it just grading these guys you know it’s a highweight Speed game right so if if if you’re trying to really kind of sort through the uh conversation or the fog of confusion what they say in The Scouting community of all right well how are we going to compare a kid from The Ivy Leagues like you know how do you compare Bryson canny from Columbia to Karen Hudson at at USC right it’s a highweight Speed game in terms of what they do with the versatility what do we think travels or translates to the power four game as well so um sticking to those basic principles which I think the hard part for us is you don’t always have all the information right so you’re trying to parcel this together a little bit but um you know what’s true is true uh Ahmad Hardy is a tough physical north south Runner even though he ran for 1300 yards at at ULM um you know Bothwell who we’ve talked about has has showed that he’s capable hos as well at the running back position talked about Bryson Kenny Colin Weber out of Charlotte um these are all guys that have put it on tape not only in one year but maybe multiple years as well that’s what the portals for really kind of designed for um you know to give these guys opportunity and inverse you know we’re talking about a guy like Michael Jackson Who maybe’s gotten buried at USC gotten buried at Georgia now’s going to have an opportunity to go down to a lower level uh compete there and maybe show his ability uh on a little bit of a broader stage we talk a lot about the FCS players that make the jump to power five we talk about the group of five players that make the jump to the power five or power four I guess it’s no now but we don’t talk as much about the power Five Guys power four guys that make the jum down to a group of five maybe there is a traffic jam at the position that they’re at with Boise State only having eight transfers on their roster right now as part of the 2024 cycle two of the players that had transferred that were out power fors that have been a significant impact on that team we know all about what Ashton jenty does all right but Spencer Danielson is a defensive guy and their defensive backs Devon Banks who was a Washington at Washington originally and then Jeremiah Irby who was at Cal both a key part Jeremiah Irby had a fantastic Mountain West Conference Championship game with now the group of five getting at least one team into the playoffs each year you’re going to see that those teams now have a chance to win a National Championship or compete for a national championship is that the ticket though to to develop like Boise state has but maybe as we talk about spot recruiting out of the portal with the schools like a Georgia and an Ohio state for even some of those group of fives is it going to find a guy who maybe just for too many B IES couldn’t get in then they come there and that one or two player is the difference between them being you know playing in a pre- Christmas bowl game to now playing in a playoff game a lot of different ways to skin a cat I mean we talked about SMU what they’ve been doing in the American Athletic Conference before they went into the ACC and a lot of had to do with the success that they had via the transfer portal then you talk about Boise State only taking eight guys excuse me via the transfer portal um you know somebody asked me this the other day what’s the answer what’s the formula do you have to take 20 guys or you got to take eight guys you got to take five you got to take the right guys that’s what it comes down to so Boise State obviously getting two starters that they can rely on from the power four ranks I think that’s what it comes down to and if I had to guess Boise is one of those places even with Danielson just driven on relationships guys they probably recruited early uh and then at some point maybe outgrew that Recruitment and then come back and give them a warm spot to land so I don’t know if it’s one particular uh way or the other like I said we’ve seen it with SMU we’ve seen it with tan who’s done a really good job developing through the high school ranks but if you can go out and you can get a um you know Ty Thompson who’s now probably going to have the opportunity to compete or a Mario Williams from USC then sure why wouldn’t you try to add that type of talent you know what’s interesting about Jeremiah Irby is that when he left Cal he had a number of group of five offers he had quite a few coming out of high school at the same High School meno Atherton is Troy Franklin who went to the University of Oregon now plays for the Denver Broncos but with Irby you know he had the opportunity to go to a number of power five schools after he left B Ley But ultimately settled on Boise State and like you said Spencer danison does such a great job relation you can see I mean you saw it if you watched when the playoffs were announced yesterday and they did the live cut into the Boise State Room you saw the way the players reacted to Danielson and he really drives that program so I don’t think you’re going to see a heavy amount a of transfers because he wants to develop those guys as young man and we haven’t really seen a lot of guys going in the portal from boys state but the ironic thing and Emily mentioned this morning for a school that didn’t really hit the portal hard they did bring in one of the most highly touted names in the portal this last off season and Malachi Nelson the former Five Star Quarterback and he spent the year basically signaling in plays to McKay Matson who’s got them in the playoffs with the buy it doesn’t always work out but here’s the other thing for Malachi Nelson and um obviously backing up Mattson there and Boise you know Malachi Nelson was a guy that I believe signed with Rich Paul uh coming out of high school you know you talk about the nil era everything that comes with it sometimes this is just a course correction you know for a guy like Malachi Nelson going to Boise State not winning the job being able to sit breathe a little bit uh you know recalibrate what does that look like is his future at Boise um but it kind of gives him some time to think and say you know what it’s in USC where I lost out this Boise State you know so maybe I got to look at myself in the mirror and say hey maybe it starts with me and I think that’s the other thing that you know we’ve kind of seen it play here and Chris Marshall was another guy was a former five-star receiver that went from A&M to Old Miss ended up at Boise State so Boise not afraid to take some shots but I I I do think these guys um there’s a level of humility uh that comes in terms of going through the portal and traveling that Journey well it’s going to be fascinating to watch if we have any other names that go the G5 route thinking that there might be a better opportunity to play but maybe don’t see the field there is there another transfer in Malachi Nelson’s future with McKay Matson being or Maddox Matson being a youngster still has some eligibility left but certainly would be fascinating to watch can I bring up one name Justin Martin we haven’t talked about him at quarterback it would be hard for any of these power four teams to say you know what I’m gonna go in on this kid he he started one game uh was a former four star um you know coming out of California and a guy that we really liked you turn on that game against Penn State and there are some things there where you’re like why isin’t this guy starting I’m a big Ethan garbage guy you know recruited him out of out of high school Justin Martin in terms of the physical toolkit has got a lot of things that you like and then not only that not just the physical traits from A timing anticipatory standpoint he showed some things so you think about a guy that probably grades out a little bit higher they’re probably some people saying why don’t you have Justin Martin over Anthony kandria well we love the physical toolkit and then the other thing is I think this is going to be a guy that ends up at a group of five program um people are going to be looking back and saying how how do we how do we miss on this kid so I’m excited for him to get some more reps and uh eager to see where he ends up the name to keep an eye on with Justin Martin is Fresno State according to 247 Sports Greg Biggins uh could get the change of scenery he needs without having to go too much further uh north of Los Angeles where he’s from also the possibility with Tino serei now the new reportedly the new offense coordinator at UCLA once the playoffs are done with Indiana maybe he talks Martin into staying but maybe there is a complete change of scenery for him but again a lot of breaking news in this last hour a lot of the Blue Bloods if you will losing players to the portal we are halfway home still plenty to cover the rest of the day we’ll be touching on some of the FCS schools that have been losing their player to the next level some of the players that have gone to the power four and flourish by making that jump from the FCS we just spent a good hour talking about those playoff teams but breaking news keeps coming with Chris Hummer Matt zenet Mike roach Greg Biggins Blair we are going to take a break we’ll be back shortly with more transfer Portal paloa information 247 Sports is your home for college football basketball and recruiting 24/7 Sports has you covered with industry-leading shows like Josh P’s college football show the college football recruiting show live commitments and our mass network of podcasts become a VIP and find out what’s really going on with your favorite team with inside information from our experts across the country college football basketball and recruiting find it all on 247sports.com and on YouTube all all right thanks for joining us today on the first day of the transfer portal opening use the promo code portal for 60% off today only while we’re on the air for an annual VIP membership go to 247 Sports click to sign up for subscription and put in the promo code portal for 60% off of an annual VIP membership Emily welcome back I have a VIP membership so I don’t need this but I’m sure you do yeah we’re we love this VIP membership so if you’ve not already taken it advantage of that uh go ahead and do it a reminder that this only extends through this show which I know has felt like it’s been going on for a long time it will go on for a few more hours um but there is the clock ticking there Huff what I miss you missed anything happened in the last hour in the transfer Portal Georgia getting the visitor receiver Georgia losing a visitor receiver USC losing a running back USC losing an offensive lineman a former USC receiver leaving Georgia but potentially going back to USC where he started no he didn’t miss much it didn’t miss anything all right that’s fun because when I was here um an hour ago we were talking about a USC Defender and bear Alexander potentially going back to Georgia so a lot of connections with what you call the Blue Bloods of the sport but I think this next hour we’re going to focus on some of the smaller schools maybe some FCS division 2 where you find those Diamonds in the Rough those gems um but before we get into some actual names I want to discuss just how you go through the process of evaluating some of these players that maybe come from a lower level there’s things that you know we have this production versus projection and there’s some of these players coming from lower levels have all the production but against what kind of competition so how do you project them to the next level we’re going to take a little trip down memory lane about 10 years ago Vernon Adams who had been a very productive quarterback at Eastern Washington made the jump from Eastern Washington to the University of Oregon Oregon had just lost Marcus Mariota to the draft won a Heisman Trophy took Oregon to the national championship game and Oregon wasn’t ready to turn the keys over to a Young quarterback so they get Vernon Adams to come out of the portal Oregon or there in fact there was even a portal they got him as a transfer he was a graduate of Eastern Washington transfer I think won nine games with Oregon that year the next year Oregon went back to that well Mark hridge had some quarterbacks he had signed a couple quarterbacks that had very similar arcs to Marcus Mariota didn’t start one of the quarterbacks he signed was Jared Go’s backup until his senior year brought him in thinking there was going to be Marcus Mariota magic there was not so he goes back to the FCS well gets Dakota prup to leave Montana State it did not go so well it also didn’t help prup chances that there was a freshman from Eugene named Justin Herbert on the roster who HRI went with about Midway through that season 4 and8 season got fired at the end of it you have a lot of guys that can make that jump but then you have some guys that the jump becomes much too big maybe they were putting up the and you see that a lot in the high school recruiting ranks where a guy’s putting up big numbers but it’s not always against great talent so what’s it going to translate like when you get to the next level so that is something and you saw when when coup was talking about it earlier what goes into the evaluation process I think they said 10% is level of competition you got to take that with a grain of salt you got to take that into consideration that just because he’s putting up big numbers in the ivy league or in the Big Sky or in the Missouri Valley is that necessarily going to transfer to the SEC or the Big 12 all right we’re going to put a pin in this conversation real quick because we want to get to some of the latest news that’s happening in the transfer portal which means we have called our friend Matt zenet to check out what is currently happening Matt I’m just going to throw the floor up to you what do we need to know that’s happening at this hour in the transfer portal well first of all I have to say I appreciate the Dakota fruit cup reference so actually covered his recruitment going back to what was it 2016 back when he was considering Oregon and Alabama back when I was still Alabama beat writer at that point so that just took me down like Memory Lane right there whiche um it made me feel old at the same time wa which also appreciate but some some of the more interesting stuff that that’s come up just during the course of the last hour or so has been just teams to watch for some of the the top guys that have gone in so actually I’ll start with a couple defensive linemen so J Jim modus who is leaving Alabama um going to be in the going to be one of the the top defensive linemen this portal cycle LSU for a while would been a popular one coming up not only on my end but Chris Hummer as well and really during the the last couple of days and it stretched into today also Colorado Deion Sanders uh have started to come up more and more as a team to watch in that Recruitment and that that’s going to be one just to keep an eye on moving forward so it’s trended from LSU being like a clear place that seemed to be in good position all of a sudden Colorado becoming a factor now another defensive lineman who highly coveted talented player former fivestar recruit keson silver so Michigan has come up as one of early places with him sounds like he could get some SEC interest as well but based on how things are trending right now I think there’s a good chance that he ends up visiting Michigan at some point this week and then one one to add in that’s more of like an under the radar type guy um there there’s a corner from Mississippi State Bryce Pock that I’ve realized during the course of last couple days that apparently I didn’t give enough credit to until uh getting some of the the information I’ve gotten on him during the course of these last couple days so he’s getting some high-end interest from schools like Georgia Michigan places like that and seems like it could be a competitive deal for him and just a better overall player than apparently I gave him credit for before these last couple days it’s all right Matt there’s only a few thousand players that you’re having to keep track of but that’s why we okay the thing I’ll end with it seems like if Brandon will appreciate this it seems like he has counted enough that you can call call him the Dakota pup of the of defensive back world so I like it okay is that a compliment though how was were we talking about his transfer to Oregon yeah didn’t quite work out at at Oregon um but no we I’ve I’ve written down all those names but definitely written down that one I’ll continue to track him definitely some big programs interested in his Services Matt zenet we appreciate your services thank you so much apprciate you guys uh anything stand out from from what he just told us just kind of running through some of those defensive prospects and and team’s interested yeah I mean I think what you’re going to see is a lot of those schools that are active in the playoffs right now yeah they’re not going to the Birmingham bowl with all the respect to the Birmingham Bowl they’re not going to some of the more Outpost Bowl they’re playing for the playoffs they’re trying to keep their rosters intact right now with potential of playoffs I me we’re not we haven’t seen a large amount of guys that are at schools that are in the playoffs put their names in the portal so you got to be guarded with your interest in other players why you’re trying to hold on to players while you’re trying to get prepared for the playoffs it’s a lot happening it is I mean when you look at with Georgia with losing Michael Jackson but potentially bringing Eric Singleton in for visit does that scare off receivers does that scare off other players where you need that depth right now more than ever as you prepare for granted you have a buy but you’re still looking at the potential for three playoff games if you want to win the National Championship four if you’re trying to come out of the the home playoff games so you got to be very measured in how much interest you’re showing and I know that’s something that we want to talk about this hour too is how are you about valuating these guys on the front end on the early end when do you start evaluating them but it’s also massaging and managing the roster right now in December as you prepare for the playoff you don’t want to hurt anybody’s feelings especially when you may need that player to emerge I mean going into Saturday do we ever expect to see gunner stockt in in a game for Georgia no but yet to play meaningful minutes second half of an SEC Championship and over time until he got crushed at the line of at the the goal line but that’s the important right now is you need to still play right for right now yeah you can’t just play the long game you’re you’re all in on these playoffs so does by showing interest in another player and we saw this last year with Ohio State now granted there was only four teams last year they had lost michig game but Kyle mcor goes into the portal the day up started 12 games went 11 and one but loses that one game Ohio State goes into the Cotton Bowl with Devon Brown I believe he started Lincoln K Holt ended up playing but they looked abysmal now you expand the playoff now you have 12 teams you got to keep your starters for as long as POS possible does showing interest in somebody else deplete your depth it’s a really good point from the team side because as we’ve mentioned on this show the the way that the transfer portal works for the playoff teams is the players will get five days after their final game to enter the portal but teams need to be thinking right now about acquiring some of these players that are already available so it’s a lot that they’re having to manage one team that just missed out in the playoffs is Alabama you heard Matt mention Jem Otis he had that early interest in LSU but it seems like Colorado has come on Fast and Furious what do you think about that potential connection not a surprise I mean again I I we we talked about this last week on the Signing Day show with Juju Lewis’s signing with Colorado does that show that Dion’s going to be there for the Long Haul I have a feeling that you’re going to see Colorado they’ve been no stranger of the portal in Dion’s two years there but now that there’s more security if you will there’s more discussion and talk that Dion will be there a longer time does that expand the caliber of player that they can get out of the portal and give them the opportunity to continue this 93 season I think they were what 11 111 two years ago three or 4 and8 last year three the season ranked in the final college football playoff rankings finished yes and potentially get their second highs in Trophy winner come Saturday in Travis Hunter they’re going to attract some top end talents top tier talent and Jem modus might be the next kind of that guy a top 10 player that could come in there and be the impact player we’ve seen now granted there different situations with shadur and Travis Hunter both coming from Jackson State to Colorado but we’ve seen those transfer players come in and be immediate impact players to a high level for Dion well because they’ve needed the bodies too I mean it’s not just the matter of the incoming transfers which for Colorado has been 94 incoming transfers under Deion Sanders there’s been 97 outgoing prospects as well under those two seasons and so they’ve had to come in and make an immediate in um impact but have we seen maybe a little bit of a shift in terms of the type of player that Colorado can bring into the portal because when you look in the ’90s in terms of prospects they’re bringing in that screams to me there has been some quality but mainly quantity yes but bringing in a guy like jotus it seems like they’re in play for some of the big-time players in the portal now that they’re being a little bit more selective y maybe with who they’re bringing in and you can be picky when you start to build something and you start to have the success they’re going to want you yeah you get to pick who you want you know it’s I I remember a great saying I heard you know 15 years ago when P Carol is at USC P Carol got to a point where he wasn’t recruiting he was just evaluating he didn’t have a hard time recruiting he was just nailing those evaluations so now with Dion in year one in year two you’ve got to get talented bodies in like you said 97 guys left the program in those two years that’s a lot of attrition but if you’re getting the right guys that allows you to have success and then having that success gets you to be even more picky and I mean think about it we’re in a brand building era right not just the nil era these guys are building their brand and they’re seeing what Travis Hunter’s been able to do they’re seeing what shter s has been able to do from a marketing standpoint with Dion cameras are always going to be on in Boulder so now if you’re a player you may not be Travis Hunter you may not be shter Sanders but you can bet there’s going to be a tension and if your game is elevated as a result of playing for him that’s going to help your brand that’s going to happen your help your marketability and that’s something that’s also going to attract players we’re also growing to too in terms of our conversation talking about Colorado we didn’t even make any Louis luggage jokes um but I did actually just do it so I had to sneak that in there um let’s go back to our conversation earlier about the the production versus projection because you have such an interesting perspective on what these players go through in terms of the recruiting process and what all of that takes and it’s like the clock is starting all over again with the recruiting process we mentioned the tape and it’s hard to to project players who maybe don’t have a lot of tape or have a lot and it’s at a lower level what goes into that recruiting process outside of tape how do you tell if you’re getting a good player into your program there’s a lot of back channels that are being filled a lot of conversation going on behind the scenes um I think back to a year ago and you know this guy never went into the portal but in the middle of the 2023 season I kept hearing from coaches that we really like Fon Chisum who was at Eastern Washington University broke a number of Cooper cups records but even in the middle of that season people were saying hey you know we’re looking and we’re trying to evaluate we think this guy can come and play at our school make that jump from the FCS level they everybody’s looking for the next Cooper cup all right I mentioned Dakota prup but you won a Cooper cup a guy who was an FCS All-American who ends up being the Super Bowl MVP and Eon Chism Fitz so these schools are evaluating they’re watching everybody with their own team they have schools and I remember when Nick rovic was hired at Washington State he hired joshu Amura to be his director of transfer recruiting in 2020 that was Innovative it was mind-blowing we had the transfer portal but not nearly to the degree we have it now back then you still had to get a waiver if you were going to try to be able to play right away otherwise you’d have to sit out a year and it was so Innovative at the time to now where you have Personnel staffs growing you have general managers you have this entire operation at your school that is doing evaluations it’s not just about evaluating high school players you’re watching the PFF of other teams you’re watching film of other games and seeing who are the players that are maybe in situations where there’s going to be a coaching change there’s going to be a Ator change that team’s not having success that might go into the portal there’s a lot of conversations going on with High School coaches with you know to avoid tampering High School coaches personal coaches trainers agents are doing the back channel to let a school know that we’re going to try to evaluate this guy because now we know he may be coming into the portal here come in December is it still technically tampering I mean are there any rules in the NCA anymore that’s a big question I’m sorry I had to ask all right we’re switching years here we have some breaking news in the quarterback transfer portal Market it sounds like Wisconsin quarterback Tyler van djk will be hitting the transfer portal former Miami quarterback as well we bring on Matt zenis again who broke this news Matt what can you tell us actually got that text when I was on wait with you guys I looked down on my phone after finished up with you guys saw that posted that and now back on all of like five minutes later or whatever it is but Tyler Van Dyke obviously a well-known figure uh it was a multi-year starting quarterback at University of Miami and transferred to Wisconsin was Wisconsin starter this year before suffering a season ending knee injury he has another year of Eligibility remaining it was unclear way whether he was going to continue on it Wisconsin turn pro or explore his options met with W Wisconsin coaching staff and has made the decision now to re-enter the transfer portal and hit the market and this is a veteran quarterback a lot of starting experience has 7,000 plus career passing yards but uh based on word that just got is set to move on from Wisconsin and re-enter the the transfer portal all right Matt zenet with that news Tyler van djk hitting the transfer portal We Appreciate You popping on I’m sure you got seven more text messages while you were giving us that answer so we do appreciate it we’ll bring you back on uh for more news in just a bit but let’s uh react to this Tyler van djk the most recently Wisconsin quarterback before that Miami quarterback it seems like injuries have plagued him for quite some time but when he transferred to Wisconsin all we were talking about was that freshman season that ACC freshman of the year it’s been a while since his freshman year what do you expect his Market to be like you know I think his Market will be similar to cam Rising where you’ve had some injuries you’ve had some issues that have kept you from really becoming the player that you were probably looking to be when you first came into college but there might be a school that’s like we’re not ready to turn the reins over to our guy we’re not a championship caliber team but we still need a quarterback for those 12 games next fall we’ve got a young guy we don’t want to throw into the Wolves just yet so maybe van djk becomes a attractive piece for a school that’s looking to hey we were 4 and eight you know maybe a school in Nebraska is not a great comp because they went with a true freshman this year but a school that’s four and eight five and seven said we just need to get a quarterback to win two more games we’re going back to a bowl our coach’s SE seat is cooling off just a little bit is he going to be the I mean you look when he made the move from Miami to Wisconsin it wasn’t a huge Market it was Wisconsin which has not necessarily had the success that they thought they were going to get with Luke fickle taking over but I I don’t think it’s going to be a big expansive Market especially coming off an injury but there will be a school that wants because again we go back to the productivity over projection discussion yes he has been highly productive when he has been out on the field and yeah we’ve we’ve seen it from him too uh we were so worried about him being cold too when he made that move so that is quite the transition that’s the kind of is that I can bring you um we have some more breaking news in the quarterback transfer portal Market Oregon State quarterback javanni McCoy has entered the transfer portal what about him I I think he’s going to actually have a market and a big thing for that is again he was another FCS guy who made the jump he went from Idaho where he was a pretty lowly recruited player gets to Idaho ends up being the big guy freshman of the Year helps them make it to consecutive FCS playoffs under Jason NE when Thomas Ford gets hired as the running backs coach at Oregon state from Idaho McCoy goes with them he starts the year I think they were 4- one to start and then hit a wall and it was a crazy transition here for Oregon state with Jonathan Smith leaving with Aiden Charles following him with so many players going to the portal that Trent Bray he got off to a hot start they only won one game of their last six uh that was a game to win the two- pack Championship over Washington State but McCoy ended up getting bitched they went back to ble Branson who had been the starter at points in his career and now they have Jabari Johnson a retro freshman who was a transfer from Missouri himself so McCoy though because of his athleticism because of the proje or the productivity he had at Idaho there was going to be a market for him he’s a West Coast guy from Los Angeles UCLA needs a quarterback could that be a possibility is he another guy that could be in play at Fresno State does he go to San Jose State there’s going to be some options for him yeah just three touchdowns last year six interceptions but had 40 touchdowns in the three years prior to Idaho so again we have seen that production um just didn’t necessarily happened last season more breaking news for you because that is what we do here on transfer portal paloa uh Texas Tech wide receiver Micah Hudson has officially entered the transfer portal this is not a surprise this is something that our guys reported prior but Matt Dennis is now officially confirming that he is in the transfer portal one year at Texas Tech former five-star player now what you know there was not very many Saturdays that went by on social media that the question where is Micah Hudson why is he not playing he was the highest rated recruit that Texas Tech has ever signed there was so much excitement when he committed and then when they held on to him he is going to have a big time Market whatever went wrong in Leck we won’t never know maybe it just was he wasn’t ready but michaelah Hudson was a festar receiver coming out of high school for a reason a productive receiver in the state of Texas I anticipate he is going to have a number of schools that are going to make him a very heavy priority and he’s going to have his pick at the litter when it’s all said and done because the talent it was only one year the talent is still there and we’ve seen it you know we’ve talked about Barett Alexander we saw it even with Jaden rashada last year where you could do it after your freshman year and there’s still going to be a lot of schools that want you because the talent didn’t just disappear all of a sudden maybe it just wasn’t the right fit maybe you just needed a change of scenery and you needed to be somewhere else where there was less pressure you know keep in mind that when you are the highest rated player the school’s ever seen there’s the expectation that you’re going to come in and be an impact player and be the most dynamic player to put on this uniform we saw it last year with Dante Mo when he went to UCLA the highest rated player that they had ever signed under Chip Kelly and really in 20 plus years he had some flashes of Brilliance followed by some moments of very limited success but the pressure to be the guy that comes in with that attention it doesn’t always get warned by the player all that well so michah Hudson may just need to go somewhere where he’s not going to be the guy there’s not the perception that you’re going to come in and change the program you get here there’s going to be plenty of teams that want him our um portal rankings team has ranked him a 93 which is technically in the fourstar range and so the way that my simple brain works is less than a year ago we projected him as a five-star player one year after playing in college football he is a four-year player or four-star player you mentioned the lack of production and all the things that could have potentially added to that but how did he affect his Market by playing at Texas Tech one year well and I think that’s the issue is that at Texas Tech and you didn’t make the impact you would have thought if you’re at an Ohio State it’s understandable you go to Ohio State you got Jeremiah Smith you got vcca egbuka you have Cardinal tape Brandon Anis you have all these guys so you’re just stuck in traffic all right you’re in the back of you don’t have the pull position you’re in the back that’s why you didn’t crack when you go to Texas Tech there was no real comps to him from a physical standpoint and you couldn’t crack the rotation or make an impact with very limited bodies in the receiver room so that goes to the question was there something more to it was it an injury was it car concerns none of that we know but what was keeping him from being the impact player that he was expected to be at a school that didn’t have many impact players blocking his path to the receiver room yeah I mean he was one of the best wide receivers to come out of the 2024 class if I’m doing the math correct not that long ago but now we have him as the fifth ranked wide receiver in this class there’s there’s a lot of talent at the wide receiver position so that that brings us to to kind of our next big picture topic here which is what are you starting to see this is day one we have over 600 players in the portal but what are you starting to see is maybe some of the uh best positions that you can find this year in the portal well the receiver room is going to always be really talented because there’s going to be so many bodies you’re going to sign three four five receivers a year at a high school out of high school and you’re going to have guys that are going to Le I’m the fifth best receiver on this team I’m the fifth leading receiver my numbers are get enough touches exactly my numbers are greatly affected and I think one of the best success stories of that was Jameson Williams he leaves Ohio State where he couldn’t crack the rotation because you’ve got Garrett Wilson and Chris olve and you’ve got Jackson Smith and jiga goes to Alabama wins the bitof war okay sometimes you just have that traffic blocking you so there’s going to be a lot of talented receivers that didn’t necessarily crack the rotation this year they didn’t get the touches that they wanted but they want to be the guy it’s okay to be the number two receiver you’re still going to put up big numbers but when you’re the fifth or sixth receiver that’s dampening your future so you got to go from so you’re going to see a lot of receivers and we look at you know look at I mean their three leading receivers are all transfers guys that all needed to go somewhere two of them were very highly touted coming out of high school and they just needed to be in the program in the system where they got those targets they got those touches you know ironically the highest rated receiver that Oregon has signed in the last five seven years was Juran dicki who has been stuck in traffic behind Evan Stewart and trean Holden TZ Johnson so that’s the one thing when you do go hit the portal for receiver sometimes you’re stunting your own development but receiver position’s big there’s going to be schools that are going to try to find a quarterback we don’t have the big name quarterbacks like we’ve had in previous series but there’s still going to be bodies and again coup said this in the the first hour your best ability is availability and if you’re available and that school needs a quarterback you might end up seeing your stock jump up even higher even if the talent doesn’t speak to it um offensive tackles you’re G to see the emphasis on trying to find an impact guy to protect your quarterback’s Blind Side pass rushers I think you know receivers defense line quarterbacks and offensive tackles when I talked to some of the agents that are doing nil deals what are the four positions that are drawing the most nil appeal quarterbacks off the tackles Edge rushers receivers not different when you get to the portal yeah because those four positions could be the difference between going to the December 27th poll or playing in the college football playoff 100% uh just looking at the quarterback Market it’s still Connor wigman who is the number one available quarterback ranked at a 91 and just to put that into perspective last year what we had in the portal we had a Julian saan who was a 98 we had an Aiden Charles who was a 96 a Dante Moore 95 and so there’s there was so much more talent but we think to um we’re having a conversation about Garrett nesme and if he should enter the NFL draft and something that you take into consideration or other quarterbacks that are entering the NFL draft and if it’s a good market for you do you see a similar kind of supply versus demand situation where wigman maybe is not the as good of the quarterbacks that were available last year but he’s one of the only ones available so that could drive his market up we we see that in the NFL draft every year like there’s still this need and feeling like I’ve got to draft a quarterback even though the quarterback group you look at the 2024 draft and how many franchise type quarterbacks were in that draft and then two years earlier Kenny picket was the only quarterback draft in the first round why well because the Steelers thought that they needed a quarterback they thought that they needed that Gap to be bridged and it’s going to be the same thing with the portal we do need a quarterback doesn’t necessarily mean we’re going to get a cam Ward type of impact transfer doesn’t mean we’re going to get even a colum M type of impact transfer with the impact he made at Syracuse but we still need somebody behind Center to play quarterback for us and so you know you look at a guy like Miller Moss who was benched unceremoniously with I think three games left four USC down the stretch right now he’s the number two quarterback in the portal and I it’s not a knock on Miller Moss’s ability but I think it it shows you that a guy who did get benched for a team that ended up going two and one down the stretch and it wasn’t like jayen Maya set the world on fire it was hey there’s not a lot of quarterbacks so this guy who got benched three4 of the way through the season might still be very attractive and I think that some of these guys there’s their value is going to be overvalued because of the position that they play when we were talking about wide receivers it made me think of the the tie in with the quarterback position and that you’re not just looking at dep CHS and saying I’m going to be wide receiver five here so I don’t want to go here but how much waiting is there for wide receivers in terms of trying to figure out who your quarterback is potentially going to be is that something that you have to take into consideration when you hop into the transfer portal as a wide receiver is not just the system that I’m going to am I going to get more passes thrown my way but who is throwing those passes absolutely and that’s why I think the quarterbacks like in high school they kind of drive the car yeah you know and you see why when a school is recruiting a high school quarterback they want to get that quarterback’s commment earlier they want that Pi Piper effect if this quarterback comes he’s going to draw Elite receivers with him he might get Elite offensive line that want to come block for him then those defensive players want to go play with him because they know they got a gamechanging type quarterback that’s not unlike how it is out of the portal if I can get a big time quarterback out of the portal if there’s one available and I’m a receiver that’s leaving a situation where I got 15 20 touches this year 30 targets but I know what that guy can do as a passor I know that that system and that guy as a pastor are the perfect marriage I want to join that marriage and be a part of that and be his wide receiver one be his wide receiver two you know with the way that offens has spread the ball out so much the days of one receiver having 60 70 more catches than the rest of the team they’re kind of few and far between you could be wide receiver number four and still get 40 to 50 touches but you’ve got to go where there’s a quarterback that can get you the ball and in a system where they’re Distributing the ball to you to put up those numbers yeah so if I’m a wide receiver I’m I’m not uh committing anytime soon I’m I’m waiting around and seeing cuz we still have to figure out if some quarterback are going to end up declaring for the draft we had to figure out if they’re coming back for a fifth or a sixth remember last year cam Ward there was a talk he might go to the NFL and I think he declared Undeclared and then Undeclared and so if he makes that decision two weeks earlier what does Miami’s receiver situation look like you know were there schools like Ohio State Florida State where his name was mentioned originally guys thinking maybe I’ll go there maybe not Ohio State because of their wide receiver room but where other guys waiting to see what he did and then when he declared for the draft they settled for something that maybe they didn’t want to go to because like I need to find a spot before he does they would have much rather played with the cam Ward because you saw what he was able to do this season um when we have this conversation about supply and demand it makes me think of the strategy for players in terms of entering in the spring portal window versus entering in the winter portal window what are some factors that they might need to consider when they’re trying to figure out which is the correct portal window to hop into I think it’s a matter of timing you know what entering in the spring gives you the opportunity to see how spring practice whenn at respective schools you get to see how the dep chart including your own including your own including your own but then also to see how the dep chart you know shook out at some of the schools you’re looking at and I think that that’s one of those periods where there’s not as many options there’s not as many opportunities but there might be very selective it’s like we talked about with the spot recruiting the portal you might have a few spots where you might be the difference obviously December is the more optimal one because you can get on campus in January be there for the offseason weight training program be there in time for spring football you get there for the semester the quarter that starts in the winter but you’re also going in at a time where thousands of other players are going in so the supply is great the demand may not be as great especially in an era where’re now seeing the rosters dwindle to 105 there’s a lot of guys that are going to the portal today that aren’t going in because they’re looking for a change of scenery they’re being told there’s going to be a change of scenery in their future that they’re no longer have a spot there and I always say this when you know you see people on social media oh you’re not you’re afraid to compete you don’t want to be here no a lot of these guys want to be there more than they want to be anywhere but they’re now being told there’s not going to be that opportunity for you and so the coaches get a little bit of a free pass because the player is the one putting out the social media post saying he’s leaving but he didn’t want to leave and so that’s the one big issue with this December period is how many guys are going in not as many guys come out and now we’re seeing smaller rosters so even less guys are going to come out it’s the thing with the transfer portal is you don’t always know the backstory behind it there’s also the players that enter to try and help their Market have full intention of heading back to the schools that they are transferring away from but that’s yeah an under discussed topic is the players that didn’t want to enter the transfer portal and would have been totally fine staying with where they are were but had that conversation with their head coach and some of those uh end of season meetings uh it’s worth mentioning here that New Mexico running back Eli Sanders is currently on a Michigan State visit and has a visit lined up with Arizona is that about what you expected for him in terms of the school’s interest in I think so and you know poor New Mexico they lose Bronco men and Hall they lose Jason Beck their offensive coordinator Vanderbilt yeah exactly and then they lose their quarterback Deon damp here now they lose Eli Sanders and you know New Mexico looking like things are turned around a five- seven season which was great for New Mexico you know they lost that first game of the year under Bronco manal where they lost to the number one team in the great game great game to the number one team the number one seed in the FCS playoffs they beat Washington State to kind of get some excitement there and then after a year they lose Bronco menal but then it’s everybody else that they l so with a player like Sanders you know in Arizona is not too surprising and you know keep in mind that Arizona was a team that had high expectations coming into this year they were able to keep a good chunk of their roster together after Jed fish left Arizona go to Washington but then they lost some key players like a Jonah Coleman who goes on to be a very big impact player for Washington aian price as well and so that’s the collateral damage here when you have schools that have a coaching change after the portal opens in this December when it gets into January and now you have less to pick from you may lose your guys and you don’t have as many options to fill that so if you are New Mexico yeah you still have some time to kind of back fill these spots you got to find a head coach first but you got to you got some time to back fill it’s those schools that lose their coaches after the bowl games are done how do they you know you see there’s a reason Washington went six and six this year after all the graduation and transfers and then with Arizona losing jet fish like they did so a guy like Eli Sanders could come in even though Arizona is probably going to lose T-Mac uh this off season he can come in and kind of help WR that for Brent Brennan I think of both of those programs is similar situations in terms of their coaching staff Michigan State and Arizona both had new coaches last year so are continuing that rebuild it doesn’t just happen in one offseason unless of course you’re Kurt zetti in Indiana but either way uh let’s bring on our friend Chris Hummer who has been breaking news all afternoon but we want to get some more perspective Chris on some of this news uh Micah Hudson is officially in the transfer portal again not a surprise you guys have fored days ago that that was the intention but what are you hearing in terms of uh what could be next for Micah Hudson yeah Micah Hudson’s not going to lack options there’s a lot of teams that are going to be in the mix for him I think some early ones to keep an eye on include Texas LSU Old Miss Tennessee Oregon maybe even Ohio State um but I would keep an eye on the Longhorns uh he grew up 30 minutes away from Austin uh Temple Texas uh Texas was a big factor in his recruitment even Wally was committed to Texas Tech and uh that’s a position Texas needs to improve on but I know a lot of schools are going to be in that mix even including that group and in addition to that so he’s going to be a very popular guy what about the interest for uh tight end Luke what are some early schools you’re hearing yeah Luca I think is a name people should know uh as a true freshman he was on fire the first four games of the Season he was the one of the best tight end in the country that year uh then he got hurt uh his Target share dropped a little bit when Bobby patrino came in but he is going to be very popular in the portal he’s officially in today some schools I would kind of keep an eye on there um include South Carolina Michigan Oregon LSU and Colorado um I think there’s going to be an immense interest in licas and there already is behind the scenes um he is going to be a very popular guy yeah our portals ranking team is well aware of what he is capable of they’ve ranked him as a 91 which is considered a fourstar he is our number two tight end at this moment uh another quarterback that that I went ah hit on I guess we haven’t talked about quarterback yet quarterbacks yet and that is Miller Moss coming out of USC we’re hearing some early visits that he has set up uh where where is he planning on going and and checking out this winter yeah s to say he’ll be at uh Missouri I think maybe even later today and then Louisville later this week those are two of the schools to focus on with Miller Moss right now I think Miller Moss is considered by schools to be an ideal Bridge quarterback one year left come in run your system immediately hand it off to the next guy and for Missouri and Louisville neither one of them have a guy ready to go right now and I think both schools are going to be elbowing each other pretty hard to get to the front of that line Miller Moss is somebody that a lot of schools really like and I think those are the two to watch right now so is there there is a visit set up with Louisville we know about the Missouri one but I think the intention is to go to Louisville uh later this week yes okay gotcha another quarterback uh Jackson Arnolds what are you hearing early on with him yeah Jackson just went in the portal earlier today but there’s been a lot of behind the- scenes Buzz with him obviously um Mississippi state is clearly a team to know he committed to Oklahoma and to Jeff leby out of high school uh Jeff leby obviously went to Mississippi State to be head coach and there’s a Clear Connection there the Bulldogs do need a quarterback in the portal and that connection makes a lot of sense but I also think Jackson Arnold is going to have a lot of interest from a lot of schools I know alurn really likes Jackson Arnold Auburn needs a portal quar back right now and they’re going to have to push for somebody and I know a lot of people in that building really like what Jackson Arnold can bring to the table uh Wisconsin as a team that really likes Jackson Arnold as well um I can even see an Old Miss uh potentially step into that mix um I know there’s been some mutual interest on both sides of that if Jackson wants to go in and compete uh with a younger quarterback in the room that Old Miss really believes in so Jackson Arnold’s going to be popular but I would keep an eye on Auburn and Mississippi State particularly yeah you have me right down a lot of SEC schools there we s could see a transfer within the conference for the former five-star and Elite 11 Finals MVP Chris Hummer thank you so much for uh providing all that context we know you’ve been hard at work all day long if you want more of his news be sure to follow him on Twitter at chriscore Hummer I want to talk a little bit more about Jackson Arnold because some of those schools kind of caught my eye I remember we talked to Hugh freeze on national Signing Day on Wednesday and I straight up asked him are you going to go after a a quarterback in the portal and he was like yeah we’re we’re looking it’s like a numbers game the way that he phrased it uh in terms of wanting to fill out that room to have at least four guys that he felt pretty solid about there’s a difference between feeling solid and finding your starting quarterback could this potentially be a starting quarterback for Auburn and Hugh free if Jackson Arnold ends up transferring there I think so now keep in mind that they did get Walker white last year uh as part of that vonte class for Hugh frees in his first full year and this goes back do you go get a portal guy that may scare off your young talent and they decide to put their name in the portal or do you go get a guy just hey be ready to go if we need you because we’re going to go with the youth M uh youth movement are we going to be able to find a guy who’s you know content to be a backup um but I do think that like with Jackson AR we talked about Isaac Wilson earlier there’s still meat on that boat there okay there’s still there’s a reason it didn’t necessarily work out in fact you could say it blew up in their face but there’s a reason Oklahoma started to tilt towards Jackson Arnold last year and essentially that Dylan Gabriel walk M Rock right into the number one team in the country and Oklahoma has a flagging season as a result of it but there’s still Talent there there there’s still something eligible maybe he needs to go to Mississippi State to be with Jeff lebby you know you look at the career Renaissance that happened for bone X when he left Auburn to go to University of Oregon well Kenny Dillingham was his offense coordinator at Auburn goes up Florida State and then goes to University of Oregon in that first year B Knicks looked like the player we saw that first game he ever played against Oregon as a true freshman Willie Stein comes in the next year B Nick is now having no trouble adjusting to the NFL but he went where there was some familiarity and he went with Kenny Dillingham who believed in him early on so maybe with Jackson Arnold that change of scenery includes somebody who was there when you were a freshman that you had your better season with and you just understand the terminology you understand the system you understand the expectations you understand the familiarity the relationships already there and for a lot of guys that’s why you know there’s so much talk about with Utah room emptying out it’s likely because Deon dampier is going to follow Jason Beck well with a guy like Jackson yeah Auburn’s a great fi Hugh FES has done a great job with his quarterbacks at previous stops but then in the case of Jackson Arnold do you feel like you need to go where you have more familiarity with that system with that offense with that coach as you’re making this big career move you’re such a trust factor involved too I think of what Jackson Arnold went through this season with yes the the the pathway was cleared out for him with Dylan Gabriel transferring it was you are the guy you are going to be our starter then he got benched for Michael Hawkins a very young quarterback coming in and then went back in and so I understand if he’s a little weary of that trust with his former coaching staff but the same way that we connect Jackson Arnold and Jeff Levy is the same way that we do Ben Arbuckle and John mattier you you do pair these offensive coordinators and these quarterbacks um together a big picture topic that I’m I’m really excited to talk to you about and know you’ve been kind of teasing it all day cuz I think you’re excited to talk about as well is um you’re going to find us our next Jared verse you’re going to find us our next cam scabo how do you go about EV valuating a lower level of college football I’m not talking about G5 I’m talking about like FCS ranks division 2 how do you find those guys yeah and project them you know I’m going to cheat and say that one of the two Heisman Trophy winners on Saturday is either going to be Travis hunter or Ashton J well by the letter of the law Travis Hunter is an FCS he is talent I mean he came from the FCS former number one player he was a number one he he was an elite player cam scabo changed the entire complection of Arizona State’s offense this year obviously Sam levit had a lot to do with that but scabo I watched him in high school played at a you know program that wasn’t in the big picture in Sacramento it’s sack State and I remember watching interestingly enough it was Incarnate Word in I believe the quarterfinals of the FCS who had just lost cam Ward the year before with GJ Kenny as their head coach because Eric Morris took the Washington State offense coordinator J and Sack state has scaboo and that was a shootout putting up offense numers he goes to Arizona state has a decent first year but then this year he takes off you’ve got cam Ward who you know going into the Syracuse game was being mentioned as a potential hasman finalist too at Incarnate Word follows his offense coordinator or his head coach to be the offense coordinator Washington state stays an extra year goes to Miami so is mattier that or do we go the FCS route do we find another veram Adams or again do we for every Vernon Adams do we have a Dakota prut but I think what you’re seeing is with FCS schools and I’ve seen a large number of Ivy League schools those guys you know are going to have the academics to be able to transfer in those guys aren’t leaving that school until they graduate okay they didn’t go and and a name that I think is significant is a kid named William Reed played at East Side Catholic High School in Washington was teammates of JT tuo our former number one player in 2021 and will Reed had 20 offers coming out of high school was committed to Cal was going to play at Cal was all set to play in the Pack 12 but then realized a degree from Princeton was too good to pass up so he decommitted from Cal we saw it happen a couple years earlier with brevan white who Alabama pursued heavily in the 2018 class the year after they had signed to a Tong of aloa and mat Jones he decided I got to stick with this ivy league option so willry goes he starts for a couple years he’s going to get his degree at Princeton but because he red shirted he doesn’t get that extra year back in the IV league so he goes in the portal well last week Stanford offers him admits him into school Virginia offers him Georgia Tech offers him so he’s getting a lot of the high academic schools after him and so having this call back a month ago we started talking that you’re going to see a high number of Ivy League guys that still have that year extra eligibility they’re going to be attractive the other thing that the IV League schools had going for them was that they got into the portal a week or two earlier because they were graduating but also because their season ended before the FBS season did before the FCS playoffs were getting started because they don’t go to the playoffs so they got kind of a jump so now schools are evaluating they know from an academic standpoint they’re going to be a fit if you’re playing and starting at an Ivy League school that’s had some good players that’s another bonus and this goes back to the productivity we’ve seen it before with this guy yes we’ve watched two or three years and you played 300 400 snaps okay we got the film you’re not going to be an issue you’re walking in with a degree from this University now you want to play big-time college football in front of thousands of people on television you’ve done the reason why guys went to college in the first place to get that degree and you had a very prestigious degree but now you want to have that last year be simar like when Matt linard senior year he was taking ballroom dancing you got your degree now have a little fun this senior year so that becomes attractive so I the guys become attracted but when you can find a Jared verse now again you don’t want to get too many FCS jumpers Jared verse is going to be a unicorn cam Ward a little bit of a unicorn cam scaboo maybe your name just need to be Cam and go to the F it has worked out great but that’s where you have to really do on the evaluation that it’s not just the productivity but this guy going up against 230 pound future stock Brokers or future businessmen that are playing DNS can they withstand going up against 290 pound defensive lineman that the SEC may have or the Big 10 may have that’s the calculated risk when you go the FCS route that yeah somebody else developed them somebody else evaluated them and identified them but can you take them from really good FCS player to really good power five player and let him be a Difference Maker and potentially getting into the playoffs I mean that’s a really good point about the age and the experience of some of these guys especially from the ivy league is you know you’re getting a graduate so you know that you’re getting obviously somebody that’s very smart but has played a lot of football so you do have a lot of tape on them chances are if you’re coming out of that level or out of the FCS it’s not just a one-year great freshman year all right you’re ready to go to the power for now you probably put multiple years on tape and a chip on their shoulder too in a lot of those cases you don’t have a will Reed who had 20 offers you have a cam Ward who didn’t have a lot of options you have a cam scat and I mean cam scabo is making no quiet at all about he was overlooked out of high school sorry cam uh but he plays with that chip on his shoulder these guys weren’t getting tons of Articles being done on they weren’t getting nil offerers an opportunity they weren’t being told that they were the greatest thing they weren’t getting ranked they weren’t getting Stars they were being overlooked by they were the last ones picked on the schoolyard essentially so those guys you never have to question their academics you don’t have to question their ability to manage time but then you also don’t have to question their toughness or any of their work ethic because those guys are coming in hungry to now prove you made a mistake by not recruiting me four years ago so give me some names who should we keep an eye out for this year I think you know Zan brono is one he at Illinois State we have him like as the top five player uh will Reid was another one I know that you know he was already starting to see his recruitment go up um Michael Montgomery a linebacker who was at almost committed to Washington out of high school ended up going to Portland State goes in the portal already and you know one thing to keep an eye with besides the Ia League The Big Sky if you watch the Arizona State Iowa State game on Saturday Xavier gillery had one of the most most phenomenal catches we saw all weekend he was at Idaho State and it wasn’t like Idaho state was a power in the Big Sky they were one of the worst programs in the Big Sky but he bet on himself goes in he become an impact player there’s the Big Sky in my opinion this might cause a lot of consternation but I think it’s the best FCS program now I’m a little biased because there are a lot of schools in the Big Sky on the west coast but the number one team in the country Montana state is out of the Big Sky the Missouri Valley is also good but there’s going to be guys that are at Big Sky schools right now that they’re still in the playoffs I think they have four teams that are still in the playoffs or three that when they go in the portal when this season’s over Scot Tre Humphrey is another name he’s at Montana state right now he had a big game in that game we talked about against New Mexico he’s become the guy at running back for Montana State he replaced Isaiah Fon who left Montana state to go to Cal a few years ago lightly recruited in high school he was known mostly for being the running back that Josh Connelly who’s the best one of the best tackles in football blocked for that’s another name so with those FCS guys that are at those good schools once the playoffs are done I think you’re going to see a lot of guys that are out of the Big Sky that are going to be able to jump up and maybe go back to the FBS or go to the FBS for the first time and now become pretty attractive targets all right let’s hit you with some breaking news here we have Miami Ohio wide receiver Javon Tracy entering the portal we know the Red Hawks fresh off a loss in the uh MAC Championship game but there was a lot of Talent on this roster what do we know about Javon Tracy in particular not as much yet but that’s the kind of player I mean you look at what criti work did by leaving Ohio and and going to Indiana and you know Allan true is our guy in the Midwest and he has done a phenomenal job and you know there’s been multiple times where he has said the max schools do the best job of identifying better than the big 10 schools the big 10 schools just have better looking logos on their polar shirt and they’re able to get them so these Mac schools and I mean you know you you see it with so many of these Mac coaches that they will take a guy who isn’t fully developed and they’ll bring him in now they do it with the understanding that if he does anything remotely good here he’s gone he’s going to go to that now now those big tens schles are going to recircle back and try to come after him but I think that that’s one thing there is that you’re going to see the guy who was productive on a very good team in the Mac got to the MAC Championship game and now becomes a target for some schools that might just need that missing piece 57 receptions 818 yards seven touchdowns top eight in most categories in the Mac so a guy that has that production but uh I want to key on on something that you said that uh I laugh because you know I’m I’m not a fan of a school at this level and so I don’t see this but I know that uh G 5 understands this time of year as just the the rating season and when their rosters just get absolutely rated are there any programs maybe or players at that level that that we should keep an eye on I know we’ve been talking about some of the Obscure ones with the Ivy Leagues and the FCS but how about some bump UPS maybe from the G5 to to the power four yeah I mean one name to really keep an eye on is Gabriel Lightfoot out of Fresno State defensive lineman there was a lot of talk that he might go in the portal back in August or I think it was July when Jeff Tedford stepped down from the head coaching and Tim Skipper was named the interim coach life foot originally from Southern California you know he had Cory Foreman who went from USC to Fresno State but lifeo was kind of their guy this year on the defensive line well he went into the portal and immediately started to get attention and I think you know it’s still weird being a West Coast guy and saying Washington state is a group of five school because they were in the power five but you know besides the obvious of John mattier is he going to follow Ben Arbuckle to Oklahoma is he going to follow the cam Ward path and go to Miami Wayan Parker went into the port P last week officially announced this morning that he’s going into the portal 650 yards this season 4 Washington State a freshman out of Grant High School in Sacramento and a guy that I know you got to see did a story on him he’s going to have a market in fact I I was I heard earlier today that Old Miss is already targeting Old Miss has already reached out to ason Parker so here Washington state does they beat out some out in West schools to get him they turn him loose as a true freshman he has you know a really productive freshman season now they don’t have him on campus for more than a year and he’s at a position where there aren’t a lot of elite running backs that are available when you know you’re trying to recruit against 120 other schools and there’s not 120 number one running backs so Wayan Parker is a player that I anticipate is going to get a lot of attention again we’re already hearing with Old Miss who Lan kin has made no bones about it he wants to recruit the portal I think he’s claimed the fact they were the portal champions for number he happy to be referred to as the portal King the portal King and they may go back to that well with Wayan Parker but that’s a name to certainly keep an eye on uh and the player that I anticipate will have a number of options when it’s all said and done after a very productive true freshman season and when we talk about these uh transfer portal recruitments is kind of like a a doover potentially from what happened in high school he was somebody that wazu was very very early on one of his first offers if not his only offers because he really came on late I mean we were discussing this earlier today his transformation from a sophomore who was 230 lbs playing linebacker and fullback to saying oh no I need to drop 70 lbs he told me stopped eating cereal and apparently that was the magic thing for him and then know that earlier yeah exactly that’s that’s your diet tip for the afternoon um but also it was a lot of hard work and working out and working with his brother and his dad but it it feels like you can maybe have that one school take a chance on you if you feel a little bit doubted when you’re coming out of high school and then if you prove yourself that freshman year then you can leave and you can go have your your pick at the litter later which is great for the player to be able to do that but like you said the Washington State staff is probably not super happy about losing a guy of that caliber you find them somebody else signs them or you get them you develop them somebody else gets to reap the benefits of the development that you did and it’s frustrating if you’re a coach you put the time and the energy into identifying and evaluating and you know those are hard players to find you do all of that work you get that success you get the yes you get the signature you get one year yeah and and me you only get six months out of them I me and that’s the frustrating part for these coaches is that they work so hard to get this diamond in the rough and five seven years ago you had that diamond in the rough for three years Chris Peterson built the Boise State program taking over the success from Dan Hawkins and Dirk cutter and took it to another level by going after Kell Moore beating Eastern Washington for Kell Moore going after a Austin Pettis who’s coming off a knee injury going and getting Doug Martin over Cal Paulie and then having a team that’s in the top five those days are done you know an AST jenty is going to be an exception to the rule so now you’re a Washington state you were able to win a lot recruitments years ago against the Boise States the San Diego States the Fresno States because you in the PCT well now you’re in the same conference as them and Boise and San Diego Fort Collins may be more desirable to these high school kids than pulman because there’s no longer that step up that you have by being the conference but you found the sign in the rough you turn him loose because he can help your team but he only helped your team for a few months because back channels are getting him into the portal and now somebody else is going to be able to plug him right in and he’s going to take his own value to another level by being on a bigger stage mhm just got to be ready to to find the next diamond in the rough are there certain position groups that are easier to make that jump up I know you said being you know having the name cam uh is certainly something that helps but I’m also noticing a lot of running backs have been able I mean we mentioned scattero or scabo and then also Cody Shader was somebody that was mentioned earlier in the show by Bud Elliot is players who have made that jump up is there a position group where you found that transition to be smoother I I would say running back because you’re going to be your speed is going to be the same whether you’re playing an FCS or FBS the difference is that speed will translate if you’ve got bigger blockers blocking for you yeah you might be going to against bigger defensive linemen and bigger linebackers but you might be in a system that’s more predicated on your use they’re also going to have a little bit more depth so you might have more tread left on your tires instead of being a 3540 game carry back at the FCS level you go to the FPS level maybe it’s 20 carries a game so you’re going to be able to be fresher you’re going to have fresher legs over the course of the season but that speed that strength that power if you’re breaking tackles whether it’s any LEL exactly the speed is not going you’re not going to get slower by making that jump up so you’re able to make that transition and so if you’re showing that speed that balance that Vision that’s going to translate and that’s why I think you’re seeing running backs having an easier smoother time transitioning from the FCS level or the G5 level up to the power four level because none of your physical traits are changing now you’re getting a little bit better protection you’re getting more carries dived out to other players so you’re not having to do all the heavy lifting and you’re probably getting you know a little bit more holes to run through that are a little bit bigger and might allow you to put up bigger yards and bigger production conversely are there certain position groups where it’s harder to make that transition I would say that I I’ve seen some offensive linemen make a little bit more of a struggle making that move from the G5 or the FCS two power five because again you’re not going against with all due respect to stock Brokers that 240lb stock recer you’re playing on a Friday night and going pro in something other than Sports exactly the old NCA commercial when you’re playing them in Cambridge or wherever now you’re playing up against that 290 lb Edge Rest by the way ran a 4 five in high school and he got a 4-2 shuttle there’s a big difference than those ivy league tailgates to now playing in front 100,000 and that player is bigger faster stronger yes all right let’s uh update you on some of the latest transfer portal entrance because the news is coming Fast and Furious here uh once again kind of the headliner is Wisconsin quarterback Tyler van djk is offici entering the transfer portal looking for school number three uh another player that I want to mention just in particular first off Micah husin has officially entered the transfer portal out of uh Texas Tech we talked extensively about what his Market could look like and if you missed that you can check that out on the 247 Sports YouTube channel but how about Gary and Hatchet coming out of Oklahoma what do you expect the interest level to be like for him I I actually think he’s know he’s coming off an injury but he was pretty hady Ted coming out of high school went to Washington was stuck behind quite a few players made the move in the off season but his brother Landon is going to be starting started the last half of the season for the huskys this year I could see a scenario where Hatchet goes back to Washington they needed all the help 10 sacks against Oregon for demon Williams he was sacked 10 times by the Oregon defensive line so they need some help guard memar who had been a starter for the Huskies this year went into the portal this afternoon I could see there being an opportunity for Hatchet to come home playing for Brandon Carroll playing for jetfish being back reunited with his brother I won’t rule out that opportunity but I still think because the talent was there before the injury he just was stuck in a log Jam at Washington I think there’s going to be a market for him I love the potential for some of these reunions that’s what the transfer portal is all about right coming together not leaving the place where you’re currently at uh we are going to hit the top of the hour and this is a busy day for general managers we bring in a former power four general manager to talk more about the transfer portal you are watching portal Pala here on 247 Sports we’ll be right back 247 Sports is your home for college football basketball and recruiting 247 Sports has you covered with industry-leading shows like Josh P’s college football show the college football recruiting show live commitments and our mass network of podcasts become a VIP and find out what’s really going on with your favorite team with inside information from our experts across the country college football basketball and recruiting find it all on 247sports.com and on YouTube can use the promo code portal for 60% off annual VIP memberships on 247sports.com as we hit another hour let’s remind you of who has entered the transfer portal a lot of big names out there but we got the biggest name right here in studio with us smoke Dixon former Maryland general manager um here to discuss what a day is like for GMS and I love your viewpoint on this he comes in here he sits down and he said this should not be a crazy day for general managers I feel like it’s a crazy day why should it be easy because if not easy but why should it be more relaxed if you’re a general manager in this situation you should be already be for thinking like your board should be set you should already understand your roster needs so what anything that comes at you today today you should be able to just say you know what that’s a part of the wave and I’m going to ride this roller coaster and just continue on with it just giveing you case and point if we just go quick study say if you’re deficient in offensive line and you need a guard and a tackle your personnel Department should already vetted out every single possibility in terms of offensive linemen in a guard position The Tackle position at every single level if you’re doing the P4 group of four ivy league D1 D2 or D3 that’s a part of your job because today you should walk into your head coach’s office say you know what tomorrow we’re going to have this guy visit on Thursday that guy visit and we should Land one two and three because we’re talking about money now and if you’re talking about money you should already have landed that deal secured the deal so when they do show up on your campus all you’re doing is a presentation of saying hey this is how you fit within our program and how we can help you get to the next level because 98% of these kids that are transferring out of schools are all doing it for selfish reasons of being able to project themselves to perform at the next level to get more money the 2% just love the game and probably just want to P play for you there’s a difference though coming out of high school versus the transfer portal and more so that you know who’s available at the high school level what’s the difference though when you don’t know who potentially could be available or who’s interested in you how do you prepare for the unknown that’s a that’s an awful question if that was for somebody’s job no right you and I are it’s my job to ask you this tough question no no no but you and I are on the outside looking in yeah but if you’re on the inside looking out you should be able to project okay if you’re at Penn State and there’s five kids in your backyard that you lost out on and you were the last school in a top two or three and say you know we had a chance to to land that kid but the reason why we didn’t land him is cuz offered them more money so you’re saying you and I don’t know but they should know with that absolutely how do they find out though just like everybody’s been doing they’ve been tampering and they’ve been keeping tabs on those players throughout their two or one year that they’ve been there and all the High School coaches the runners the agents they’re giving those dpps general managers Coach position coaches that recruited those kids they’re giving it Intel and saying Hey listen Emily proud wants to come back to State College because they hate being down south parents getting down here is cosing them arm and a leg dad works on a Friday we can’t get them off on time to get down to say LSU Baton Rouge to truly enjoy their sons Saturday because it’s a night game and we got to go back Sunday and sleep all day Monday and I’m missing a day of work how can we get this right say okay listen we can work this out by doing 400 for this year 300 for the next year and if he performs out outside of this contract will level him up some more so you shouldn’t be surprised by the names that come out today you should be anticipating the names and already contacted those guys and I know they’re saying by NCAA rules you can’t do it but it’s happening because if you are behind you’re not doing it you’re behind right right you’re behind the eightball and if you’re behind the eightball that kid’s already set up three visits and you’re the fourth and before he gets to you might be gone so your job with in recruiting and the Personnel department is to anticipate what’s going to happen today and set up those visits and those contracts already and get the deal done so your head coach is at peace today something that I’ve really want to get your perspective on because we’ve talked about it roughly throughout the day in terms of balancing putting a whole roster together from the high school level to the transfer portal and and one uh particular situation that we were talking about is there was an interest from Colorado in quarterback Caden Salter well they just literally handed the keys over to Juju in the high school recruiting ranks and the discussion was well if he’s expected to come in and be the starter how do you manage those emotions and and just the the feeling behind bringing in a veteran quarterback to compete with him when his assumption when he signed whatever it is that they’re signing these days was that he was going to come in and be the starter so how do you balance that from a general manager position because I know you want to just bring in all the talent but you kind of have to take into consideration what you’ve just signed right every good team always has a great backup M and always has plan B so your plan a safe for Colorado just speaking out might be Juju as a freshman but how many times does a freshman go in and truly go in and impact a team not that much so when you have a bridge quarterback and the number one equalizer in college football is a mobile quarterback you can get through with a veteran quarterback that’s mobile but then set you up for Juju to come in and play 20 to 30 reps so he can take his time to develop so you don’t have to rush him out there cuz the worst thing that you want to do to a Young quarterback that has confidence and has ability is put him out there too early yeah and then everything starts speeding up instead of seeing 11 he’s seeing 12 instead of hearing ghost is he’s hearing goblins and everything and he thinks every Saturday is Halloween and it’s not it should be Christmas and Thanksgiving for you if you’re doing it the right way so for an older guy coming in and a Young quarterback that’s signed in this class don’t worry about it they’re there to help you not rush you into a situation where it’s tough cuz Juju for an instance he goes in he’s going to have 15 practices in Spring 40 something practices in the fall but all he’s going to do is being in simulated a situation that his coaches have prepared him for game one he might go out there and whatever you plan for throw that out the windows because it’s something new yeah and now you have a Young quarterback trying to figure out how am I going to win games and replace shador Sanders which might be a top two or three pick that’s out of pressure why put that pressure on him roll that older guy out there let him play get comfortable and just put Juju in and supplement him in when you need to to gain his confidence and once he gains his confidence game four or five you say okay listen older guy thank you you getting paid you’ve done your job only on an injury count do you come back in yeah that’s something that CP was arguing is that it’s probably in that case in his best interest to to bring in a backup and and give him some time to acclimate to the college game CU it’s quite the transition I just want to update real quick uh interior offensive lineman Josh Johnson who is coming out of Northwestern he has visits lined up this week for Michigan State Auburn and Ohio State he’s also finalizing visits with Michigan South Carolina LSU and Tennessee he is currently the number four interior offensive lineman in the portal there’s a lot of offensive lineman Talent I’m seeing early on in this portal as as a general manager that’s got to make you pretty happy because that’s a tough position to find usually the the reason why you even look at all those offensive linemen cuz they’re older guys and when you’re just running off all those visits I guarantee you those visits just didn’t happen like 15 to 20 minutes maybe an hour ago yeah I know his agent’s been very busy this morning oh man they’ve been on the horn forget this morning I know I know last month when they thought about all this advocate here right they’ve been doing that but when you’re putting together a team the position that you want to be the oldest on the team is offensive line because everyone want everyone knows that’s the hardest position to develop and the thing that you don’t have right now is a position coach as an offensive line coach you don’t have time at all you don’t have time so you have to go in there and establish yourself with older guys that’s played plenty of reps in order to understand what is a tackle and stunt looks like what does it look like when I’ve given up two sacks and the quarterback’s on his back as a young guy oh my God I just let this guy down no it’s an older guy say you know what QB I’m going to pick you up that’s on me but I’ll get it right the next time and as as a coach you just feel more comfortable when you have that veteran up front that keeps the pocket firm you just said interior alignment I think that’s the most important position in college football I know everyone going to say the left tackle but the left tackle is really important in NFL but how many times are you going to be a dropback quarterback in college with eight seconds back there majority of the game is played up in the spine so interior firmness that’s what you need we’ve had this conversation in the office and it kind of blew my mind just your perspective on the importance of the offensive line positions but that might be a topic for another day uh today we we talk extensively about player acquisition bringing players in making your roster better but there’s another side of it there’s losing a lot of players there’s two programs in particular Kentucky already losing 18 players to the portal again this is day one of the winter transfer portal window LSU another school losing 11 players I think I know what you’re going to say when I ask you I’m a general manager how do you prepare for this and you should have said you should have been prepared for this but what goes through your mind when you start to see that door just swinging open and players leaving I coined the phrase a few years ago the portal giveth and the portal taketh away does so 18 guys leaving or 11 guys leaving are you’re the one asking them to leave cuz if you are asking them to leave you have a plan to replace them and we all know that this 105 numbers is coming up and if those players that are leaving Kentucky or LSU haven’t developed if you have dead money in them meaning You’ paid them a ton of money as young guys and they haven’t showed up and performed well if this year two or three the likelihood of them being able to be productive year three to four yeah not likely so you cut your losses and say you know what we’ve done a good enough job and evaluating the let’s say guard position and there are 10 guys at this position that elevate us over the two guys that were losing there and we feel comfortable enough by saying Hey listen you’re not going to have an opportunity to play here so it’s your best interest if you look for somewhere to play and most of the guys got agents Runners that’s doing their jobs for him already and the laziest thing to do in recruiting is somebody to drop him off at your desk say Hey listen he has a lot of potential then he can play why didn’t he play at the last spot but that’s their problem not ours you mentioned uh revshare there’s a big change that’s going to be coming through college football with the house settlement and it’s not just the revenue share and the potential 20 million is cap that we’re going to see cuz that’s a whole other issue is dealing with how to manage your roster from a financial standpoint but from a number standpoint this 105 uh Roster number scholarship Max limit whatever you want to call it how does that affect the way that we’re already seeing uh the transfer portal this year before it even has come into effect how does that already affect things right now well it ref it takes away the developmental part of your team in the middle to backend third of your team now you have to look at how am I how am I constructing my threes or my twos before you could say let’s give these guys two years as the threes to get prepared and get developed now you have to look at your threes as backups and your twos is low-end Starters because at the end of the day you might lose some of your threes that are really good in the next year but those next guys have to bump up so it’s always pushing your roster how are you developing your roster in terms of Developmental guys or guys that can play right now older veteran guys and pushing those middle tier guys up to push those starters up in order to play so how are what are you going to do to construct your roster moving forward I would go veteran over a a developmental High School guy because I don’t have the time nor do I have the resources to do it so you’re going to have to sacrifice on some of the developmental guys because that limit is getting smaller correct you don’t have that the you can’t run with the threes anymore say you know what we want to go with the threes versus the ones there are no more threes your threes are really twos and your twos are really ones M and you need production from all of them all the time you need all of those guys to play now you can’t wait on a high SCH not a practice squad or you can’t wait on a high school guy to play in three years because there’s dead money and that roster spot needs to be filled yeah and within that roster spot I need production out of it what production am I getting out of you if you’re on the bench sideline or you’re 200 60 pound offensive linemen that we can’t get up to 310 how long can I wait for that not long when I have put money in you and there’s a limited roster spot and I can’t get anything else so where does that complicate things for a general manager because you know you might look at it and say well that’s a smaller number that you have to put together but you’ve got to get it right well this is where you have to have vertical alignment within your organization what I mean by that is your head coach general manager and all the position coaches should be able to line up and say this is what we want out of our program so if you go in and you say head coach we have to have a plan to get all of our three-wave offensive linemen ready to play next year and we have to take off a lot of reps off of them during practice and find a way to get them into the game well you got to go go out and go into the portal you got to go get guys in a pter that’s played so they they have the ability to get ready to play for you and not take that roster spot that was given to a high school kid yeah that maybe you’re crossing your finger like oh my God one day diamond in a rough you need a diamond shining on your fingers exactly yeah it’s uh less room for error and you can’t take as many chances which you know is a bummer because this is a developmental game and it still is I mean you still need to develop guys that come into your program but you have to be a little bit more selective with them I want to bring on somebody else into this conversation our national college football writer John TTY so John we have a former general manager and we have you somebody who speaks with general managers people within programs how have you seen the transfer portal uh change the way that they do I guess we’ll call it the business of college football in 2024 yeah I was love and listening to smoke there I like he was nailing it um I think it it’s has a it impacts a few different things one I think what we’re seeing let’s look at this college football playoff right now what Indiana’s done what Arizona States done I think it speeds up your timeline I think the ability to bring in you know quite a few different players if necessary to churn out multiple different players as well allows potentially you to turn over your roster a lot faster than you would have been able to in the F in the past and so you’re seeing those you know huge success stories and that you know the part of the impact of that is it puts pressure on other people people there’s not quite as long of a Runway as you used to have you’re not getting five years to get it figured out if you don’t have it figured out by three years you might be looking for a new job and so I think that’s one of the both positive and negative impacts of it is that it’s just allows you to change your roster so much more but also there’s just a lot of things that you have to deal with now that you didn’t have to you know 5 10 years ago in Portal nil all those things are really intertwined um that are having you know a huge impact on the sport in a multitude of different ways do you see an added pressure smoke when it comes to you see like what uh Kurt zetti did at Indiana for example turning that program around immediately the added pressure comes in to not understanding what the objection is when you first get hired as a head coach because you can have a five-year plan and within two minutes your ad walks out and say Hey listen I just saw Indiana win win 11 games why can’t we do ex what’s your excuse so the pressure is really on position coaches developed their team but also Administration raising enough money to get those players in that can give you that day one impact yeah speaking of raising enough money John I’m sure that you’ve been tracking this constantly with uh what could be coming down of the house settlement revshare and we’ve talked about the scholarship limit maximum to to 105 what have you been told in terms of people working within the college football programs how this is affecting this transfer portal window right now before it’s even gone into effect well there’s a lot of money flying around right now and I think there’s also a lot of uh huge demands flying around right now I’m sure smoke you know that too I mean I was talking to people before jumping on here and you’re hearing guys who marginal starters asking for high six figures even into seven figures uh especially on the defensive side of the ball I mean that’s kind of wild to me right now but there’s a lot of potential money at play especially as schools move to rev share and I think that there’s an opportunity for you know this group of guys who are available in the market to capitalize on that now I think over time as this moves even more and more to a professional model when you hire smart people like smoke into your personnel Department we’ll see those numbers I think get you know more in line I think there’ll be a market correction as time goes on as schools get used to working within a budget and really moving more toward I think kind of an NFL model of their salary cap uh salary cap in quotes it’s not a full cap but that’s kind of how I think teams are already kind of gearing around it U but right now it’s you know for some of these schools that maybe didn’t have huge nil money to work with in the past this is an opportunity to have quite a bit more money to devote toward you know your football program and so that’s why you’re seeing you know some some some big money fly around right now and some some talented guys going into the portal knowing that they’ll get a big payday on the other side so we finally seeing some what of a leveling of the playing field as people like to call it it’s hard to tell this year with the college football playoff expanding so automatically more teams are going to get in but it seemed like maybe this was an intended um consequence but a positive consequence is that we’ve seen more distribution of talent is that what what you’ve been tracking John have you seen that yeah for sure I mean I think we’re seeing it in the the college football playoffs field um in terms of some of the teams that made it and I think that’s the I think the benefit you know for a lot of programs is that you know I go back to Alabama a lot I know smoke has ties there too you know like they were able to stack so much talent over the years kind of behind the scenes that maybe weren’t even playing that come year three come year four those guys could then step in and be ready to rock and it’s just very hard to maintain those guys at this point you know Georgia I know has gone through it you’re just seeing less depth especially at the upper end of college football because those guys after a year or two if they’re not starting even if they’re not getting enough you know catches or they’re not getting enough time even if they are starting are moving on to other places and that allows for think more programs to be competitive it also I think has led to at least in my opinion this year has felt like they’re less great teams than I can remember in a while it feels like everyone has flaws uh you know Oregon’s great but I think they still have some issues we’ve seen Ohio State Georgia Tennessee gone down the line all those teams feel like they have some some issues and I think that’s in part because they just don’t quite have the depth or maybe they just weren’t quite able to get a talented recruit or a kid at the portal to plug a spot and they’ve got some holes along the way it’s it’s been very hard to kind of build the super teams that we saw dominate the sport for so long and Bamba and Georgia and some of those other programs well somebody who just root roots for chaos um I I appreciate this new age of college football and I appreciate you John TTY for joining us here on transfer portal paloa I’m sure you’ve had a very busy day and we’ll continue to in the uh postseason we appreciate it I feel like we both nodded so intently when he said building depth why is it so much harder to build depth now than it has been in the past because you can’t hold on to those players anymore yeah cuz the de players understand their value on the market and even though they don’t have that much value because you’re watching production over potential there are agents and coaches that create that just because most coaches run away from the resistance of teaching and when you have a veteran that’s been in college and they’ve played say 20% of the Reps you say you know what I don’t have to teach that left tackle how to pass Pro how to run block how to take on different stunts how to get game game day and game on the task type of experience you can’t pay for that yeah so it’s easy just to say you know what let me go comb that roster of the guys that’s played the backup role and maybe they can come in and start for us because we’re at a lower level or because our expectations not as high as going into the playoffs or winning the national championship I just want to retain my job for two years and get to the Bowl yeah sounds like a pain to have to you know coach these guys up and and use this Reclamation project when I I’m scrolling 247sports.com and see oh this guy’s available I’ll take him it’s a juggling act yeah and you have to be realistic of of where you’re at and who you’re working for yeah if you’re at Louisville you should not have the same expectation of saying Texas for a seconde coach because a the resources and the players aren’t there so you have to give that coach at Louisville a little bit more time and Grace to get them up to the level of performance that you want so it’s a juggling that that you got to be real careful with and everybody got to be vertically aligned like I said and understand what you’re asking for and what you’re paying for at the end of the day you know college football fans are nothing of patient and graceful when it so patient I say that as a college football fan myself so I’m not hating on the college football fans out there we are all a little impatient when it comes to wanting to win uh let’s hit some breaking news we have right now two lane quarterback Kai Horton entering the transfer portal spent the last four years at two lane 866 pass passing yard six touchdowns five interceptions he was a preseason favorite to be the starter but he lost the job to to Daren Mena so um that is fairly significant considering we learned earlier today that John Summerall will stay at two lane I know that he was a very high-profile um coach in terms of a lot of coaching jobs would have liked to to fill with John sumerall so what’s your uh initial reaction to to Kai entering the portal a backup leaving a a backup leaving a program you’re looking at it saying like how much do you truly want to go out and compete because like you said last year coming into it there was an opportunity to start yeah you just lost he was going to you just lost your job so can you get better by staying at T lane or can you risk it of leaving and going to a place of unknown yeah and I’m pretty sure like we said earlier the last team that recruit him and he was on that dance floor with him typically you know what I think we can we haven’t seen it that much but maybe he come in and start for us and that’s where you have your misses and that’s where you have your dju show up and you think they’re starters but they haven’t shown it to you yeah and the worst thing that you can do in the transfer portal is go off potentials if and maybe today should be for sure guaranteed proven production that’s the only way you don’t miss and if you do Miss with that you can say Hey listen we checked all the boxes and we just missed because he didn’t play up to the expectation that we thought and we saw on film but if you didn’t see it on film in 3 years year four you’re not going to see it that much all right we’ll see uh what happens with him and where he could potentially go next on the subject of the coaching Carousel we want to throw up this uh interesting tweet that we found from Norman Clark who is a parent of a UCF player on the 2017 team about the return of Scott Bross saying as a parent of one of the top players on on the undefeated team I urge every player’s parent to encourage your sons not to leave because your sons will die on the field for him because they’re more valuable than just a scholarship to frost and I speak for all players or for all parents first off the The Return of of Scott Frost to UCF you’re shaking your head a little bit first um why what has you shaken your head I think it’s sweet from a parent perspective it’s a little dramatic with d on the field yeah that’s where I’m shaking my head at but he’s a great coach and they went undefeated won a national championship so it’s hard to argue with results but that’s uh that’s some intense praise and whoever that parent is I hope coach Frost dropped off some cash to him because that’s probably the most that’s the best recommendation I’ve ever heard yeah checks in the mail there that’s fantastic he got to be working in the recruiting department forget all that but but I get it those guys when back when they went undefeated they played so hard yeah you could tell you can tell they love and some guys belong at a certain place he should never have left and I get it MoneyWise you can you can you should take off if if they’re doubling up your money but there’s times that you can leave and go to another place and within a year or two where’re out you’re welcome because again expectation and being paid there’s production and performance that’s due and if you aren’t doing that they’re going to ask you quietly please leave our office yeah but what he did down in Central Florida this ailar statue out there for him yeah we talked a little bit with John talty about the unrealistic expectations that are created sometimes with these first year coaches coming in and they’re going to bring all their players and they’re going to get the band back together and they’re going to go to the playoff like Indiana did and Kurt Signet uh not the only coach just a a very recent example that we can continue to draw on with Scott Frost he was not coaching anywhere before this so that’s kind of a tough one um but what are your overall thoughts on this year one bump in not just getting a new coach that you hope is better than the guy that you’re replacing but also potentially bringing in some good talent with him that’s a realistic thing to expect now right well the first thing I’m going go back is that tweet that was just sent out it’s an understanding that if you are on the the line of saying I don’t know where to go is there a coach out there that I’m good with and that parents will vouch for third party like recommendation Scott Frost has got one stamp of approval stamp if you’re if you are close and not knowing where to go because you you don’t know if a Coach is going to give you his best at all times yeah Scott just got one and now when you look at Scott and you say okay how do we get this band back together as a general manager in helping the head coach build a team the first thing I’m going to say is we have to go out and get assistance that can bring players with them yeah because that’s a new trend yeah if I hired a DB coach your DB you better bring two with you a starter and another starter and if you get three a back up we’ll go with that you’re just bringing in three linebacker coach you need to bring one defensive coordinator you should bring at least five guys that want to come in and play for you look what’s happening in the Florida state so how does that affect the hiring process is that something that they’re promising when when a coach goes in to interview hey I’m bringing these guys with me absolutely that’s the first question I’m asking I know how well you can coach yeah but with the new transfer report on new rules who are you bringing with you because if I’m paying you that much it’s not about recruiting anymore it’s about transactions how many guys can you bring in I can get rid of the ones I want to year one we have to make this thing happened so with your hires your yeah they can develop players yeah but you got to bring your horses with you to run in this race is that the same case with head coaching interviews or just coordinators position coaches head coaches I’m AB absolutely okay if you see the trend of the last three head coaches and you said it coach Prime kurk and who’s the last guy that you said that um the thir third party well let’s use those two M what they did they brought their team with them yeah and the number one thing that you want to do is went over locker room R Lashley at SMU sorry about that great example they brought their team with them and the number one thing that you need to do is win over the locker room you win the locker room by having guys that are there that understand your culture and the only way that someone can believe in your culture and what you say when you mean it is by having past experience with them and going through trouble times and once once you win the locker room over everything else is a breeze because you don’t have that turmoil we’ll say downstairs in the locker room because if they don’t like what you’re saying the 15 players that you brought with you say Hey listen that’s not how we roll yeah this is the expectation coaches not have to be here I’m speaking for him because I represent him that’ll shut down the whole entire locker room and if you’re bringing coaches with you they understand what you want and how you demanding it so in the offse you don’t have to send out reminders they know what the offseason should look like expectation on game day I don’t have to ret so all I’m doing is I’m coming in rinse and repeat of what we did at the last place the only thing that’s going to change is the resources that we have on hand and we can get better but for year one I don’t need to go out and find out what you might know I need to go in understanding what you do know and give me that production of wi and you see that yeah it makes that transition easier not just the the familiarity but the trust you know that that comes in with wanting to be with a certain coach that you already had success with and we mentioned Kurt zetti as a great example he brought in a lot of players from James Madison you know his quarterback Cur his work though coming from Ohio so he did go shopping and other programs as well veteran quarterback um somebody that you can come in and win with right away and so if that’s part of the hiring process where you’re saying I can bring in these talents and these players with me does that mean when you’re also sitting down and and pitching your vision for a program that there’s less focus and less emphasis on your vision for years to come and more so what can you do for me right now well you’re giving me the opportunity to prepare you for what year two and three are going to look like yeah but year one really looks good if we’re eight wins because most of the time when you’re hiring me you suck yeah you’re bringing me in for instant success and to win you don’t want to go through winning one game then two then three and now we’re into year four like come on man yeah but if you come in year one and you have college football game day showing up and you are selling out that stadium and you’re in the playoff year one there’s two things that’s going to happen I’m going to an extension my salary Cap’s going to go up because donors are going to start throwing into that Collective and I can go tap on my ad and say Hey listen some of that Revenue sharing that you’re giving over to basketball you might want to give me4 more million cuz this is what I did with my rag tag crew that I just brought in from a lower level and I won year One what do you think I’m going to do with 20 more perc yeah in year two and three and I can go out there now and go get my own and it helps now in recruiting Because I don’t have to sell a dream I can show you what’s out there we won year one with this you coming in year two I have that form already that secret sauce is there yeah all I have to do is just throw it in the oven press press time and bake it up again and we can get a win there you have it um you can use the promo code portal on 247sports.com to get 60% off annual VIP memberships that only runs as long as we are live which is 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when you watch college football the number one game changer or game changers on Saturdays or Edge rushers go back and watch Texas versus Georgia on both sides on both sides the Georgia quarterback goes down and it changes the game just because we can get to you with four in the edge rushing Dylan Stewart changed the way that people look at South Carolina this year just because his ability to rush the passer Kyle Canard the oppos the guy that plays opposite of Dylan Stewart was that Georgia Tech last year and was hovering around and no one really truly evaluated his ability to get after the quarterback because everyone wants to look at sacks yeah sacks just means you got to the quarterback and you tackled him thing that I always look at is hurries how much do you affect the quarterback launch Point how many times can you get him to reset step up in the pocket to give the other three guys or four guys that are rushing the ability to get sacks and how many times can you make him pull the ball down to give a corner safety and a linebacker time because all you’re looking for is time you’re trying to buy as much time as possibly can to get there so when I see a guy with that many hurries and that many sacks yeah I’m perked up so now I should have watched film on it but now I’m going in say coach listen Edge rusher dip Bend close and if coach we don’t really have to send five anymore we only can send four so now we can play a little bit more Zone and have those coordinators going to sleep at night saying man how do we block him that’s all I want you to go to sleep unhappy and not feel real easy in that pocket to win games would you feel comfortable bringing in a player if you just saw the stats and hadn’t seen the tape yet like in this instance if all of a sudden you’re watching transfer portal po show and we break this snooze and you go that sounds good absolutely not absolutely not my eyes I listen with my eyes I only hear with my ears my eyes will tell me everything now like I said you should already understood what that player is yeah the way that you set up your trans the transport window or even set up your personnel box you should be able to go in and have one or two guys study each conference so when he does come back is an 88 an 88 PFF grade he should have been on your radar the second that he started getting that much attention from PFF PFF make it real easy for you too yeah to watch film so you should go down to Cho now listen he wasn’t officially in but the only reason why I’m running down to my head coach’s office is to have the phone in hand and say listen I got his people on the phone now let’s make sure that we have the right number and that we can get them up within 48 hours so we can get this thing done because if we don’t get within 48 Hours the 72 hour yeah we’re we’ve lost B’s probably gotten a hold of them and they need to Edge russer Ohio State they got a bunch of cash Phil might call up and say I got some Nike shoes for you and we can get this done to so you better get to them before the real guns get to them it’s also one of those rosters too at appalachin State because they’re going through a coaching change that I’m sure as a general manager you you look at some of those programs and try to pick out some players that could potentially enter the transfer portal even if you don’t have to go through back channels um you know kind of those rosters are the ones that are going to be rid it a little bit and up for grabs a little bit Emily as much as I hate to say it but I was always a lowlevel comb through guy I hated taking guys that were coming down to me okay and if you’re at Maryland rarely did I want an Alabama Ohio State the expectation those guys don’t come in with the understanding of you’re doing them a favor they believe they’re doing you a favor and they’re always going to compare and if you’re coming from the best and you’re coming down a level in terms of facilities coaches resources you’re going to walk in the the the dag on team room like a these seats don’t feel as comfortable the locker room is not this nice I don’t need to hear that M like the locker room does not need that cuz you’re bringing out down the morale but if I got a kid from a pack yeah or JMU socon App State coming from Conference USA they walk into your building you’re like whoa three meals dining room cafeteria extra bucks cost of living is $330,000 yeah I’m going to give my all to you and I’m not going to complain yeah complainers bring down morale of your team and you can lose a locker room yeah it’s something that Huff was just talking about in the last hour is those players moving up um is that they have a chip on their shoulder too and those are not just players you want in your locker room but players that you want on your football field too those are the ones that are fun to watch um let’s update you on some grades that have been happening you know when I took a lunch break a while ago I was eating pizza Cooper however is has been hard at work doing some of these uh these grades with our entire portal team downstairs um they just continue to to churn out these rankings and and we went through this at the beginning of the show but for those who have maybe missed it there is somewhat of a tie in to what we do in the recruiting so these these 90s that you see are four stars and below that are three stars so we still don’t have any five stars technically in this transfer portal class I think I believe we had six last year so it is very rare to to get that five star in the transfer portal but a guy like Quenton Joiner who we’ve talked about Bryce Pollock I mean of DT shuffield he was a guy that that went in the portal um within two hours ago is there anybody on that list uh that that maybe stands out out to you well you always want to look at interior defensive lineman and offensive linemen that that come up in the edge rusher oh yeah we talked about rushing that quarterback and the way and just looking at that list I feel real good about it and the reason why I like seeing the grads in the 90s and the high 80s the expectation and the understanding like I like the ball on a budget okay and when you’re building a team just from my experiences with the Buffalo Bills like we signed Lorenzo Alexander at the third wave of free agency and you got your best bank for dollar we signed col Anderson that same day matter of fact and when you start going out and you want to go get those impact players those impact players should bring one or two wins to your team the likelihood of that happening in college not so much so when you have the middle tier the good players the deaf players on your team we talked about that that’s what you want to build your team with supplementing your roster for good players that can come in and again they have a chip on their shoulder so they’re always going to try to prove you and I Wrong by playing up a level when you have those high level impact players coming in they’re leave why do they leave their school yeah they left for a reason and most of the time really good players leave because they haven’t lived up to the expectation and they don’t want that so they’re going to come to your team with baggage already and you’re looking for those guys to impact your team they’ve never impacted the team before so bad money spending that’s where you get the dead money yeah I’m spelling a million dollars but I’m only getting 300,000 in terms of production and performance I know when you were working in um College Programs you’re so focused on the team and making sure that the team was the best possible um that it could be but now that you’re on the other side you’re on the dark side here with us in the media good side you good side you give so much great advice in terms of what players should do and and how they should use the portal to help with their careers whether that’s helping with their future in the NFL helping with their financial um status so we’ve discussed this I think more specifically when it comes to the quarterback position on how to utilize the transfer portal maybe for one last year and there’s a big topic of conversation now where you are looking at what would I make as a late round draft pick versus coming back to college for one more year what are some of the factors that players that are in that predicament where they’re like yeah I might get drafted but if I stay one more year I could help my draft stock even more and still make a decent amount of money in college what factors do they need to consider when making that decision that’s a great question and I sat down with three agents last night and talked about the same thing because they wanted to know exactly where their clients was sitting at that at that point but when you look at the NFL it’s not a developmental leag yeah and if you’re quarterback that your grade is a third fourth fifth sixth round draft pick the way that college is set up right now you can make a million or two and come back and play yeah and the best thing that you and the best thing that you want to do for is terms of college player is time on task so if I’m a quarterback and I haven’t figured out how to make that game slow down for me as yet what I mean by making it slow down be able to go through your progressions quickly without the clock speeding up that means you more need more time on task and if the clock is still speeding up and the game is still fast in college yeah in the NFL that’s NASCAR and you trying to drive in the right lane on 95 it’s too fast for you so for a quarterback sit down find the best place that’s developed quarterbacks that’s giving you that can give you the opportunity to go out there and play the way that you want to play look at cam Ward yep cam Ward made maybe 20 to $30 million from what we’ve had him projected last year in terms of a third to fourth round pick now he’s going to go in the first round and he didn’t have to wait on that either he was still he wasn’t making 20 to 30 million in college but he was still making money still making good enough money to to sit around instead of going into the NFL and being a glorified backup and going to the backup Island and not getting a second contract so if you want to go in the first round your goal is not to get drafted in the first round your goal is to get a second contract how do you get a second contract by playing well in that first contract and being G ready look at Michael pinnick yeah bck B great example all of those guys stayed in college and played now 10 years ago when you didn’t have resources to get $500 to $2 million to being a a real good quarterback in college yeah I would have said get out of Camp go leave and go get your money because there’s no opportunity for you here not to financially gain something and you’re playing for free yeah some current guys that might have to make that decision that have been mentioned on this show is a jayen milro or a Garrett nus any advice that you would potentially give either of them both of those guys stand in school okay they’re not ready for the NFL look at Daniel Jones Daniel Jones is going to go into the baker Mayfield Sam darnold deserted island of potential without production and might find a way to go to what I usually call backup quarterback Island where tanah Hill and all those guys hang out at so if you have the opport to get better in college and you do because you just need reps and you need to play more at the quarterback you can’t be too old at the quarterback position the older the better because when you’re a veteran quarterback in the NFL like you really got what play till you’re 40 years old yeah so why not wait Jaden Daniels has some ears on him and I know our Washington Commander uh fan that’s in our ear right now Kenny Williams is pretty happy with what he’s getting from him so yeah out of it yet older the better there if you if you get back your grade you’re in the fifth or sixth seventh round sit your butt down in college and play again and just ask the collective and your head coach to bump up that salary cap and give you a little bit more money on your salary Devil’s Advocate though how much do you have to take into consideration the quarterbacks coming out because that was something that Cooper pagna mentioned earlier on this show is with Garrett nus is that’s maybe a tougher decision for him in particular because you look around the QB Market going into the draft this year and it’s not great so he could be viewed as a better Prospect coming out this year versus sticking around a season next year well yeah you can leave and get drafted by a bad team there s yeah cuz when you go into top 10 say top 15 for the most part you’re going to a bad teams that really don’t have enough players around you because if they did they would be picking in the 20s and the 30 in in the bottom half of the draft so you can say yeah I’m going to leave just because I’m going to get drafted early but what happens to you in your three where they’re asking you to be the man and you don’t have that ability mhm then you’re going to be on quarterback Island in three years cut looking for a job because they don’t have that much invested in you like they used to with the old C CBA you’re just one of the guys now yeah we saw Bryce young who was brand new quarterback that they already I mean he’s back in playing great but there there’s there’s plenty of examples of those Reclamation projects but there’s so many more of those coming in not quite ready projects the hardest position to get right in the NFL draft is quarterbacks so if you’re a quarterback and you have two years left why not stay in play yeah it’s not going to go down for you it’s only going to go up shador Sanders might be the first overall quarterback taken if shador comes out last year he’s the seventh guy taken is he in the first round absolutely but he’s not the first overall pick or have that conversation of being in the top five so you just have to go out and just weigh your options and I would always tell a guy that plays the quarterback position the best thing that you can possibly do is play as many reps and throw as many balls as possible and see as many defenses that you can figure out on your own without somebody in your ear telling you how to do it and that’s just time on task yeah and Garrett nesm needs time on task those are the quarterbacks though that’s not the case for every position what are other positions you would say go maybe as as soon as you can Emily I would say every position except for quarterback no I would say every position in college just stay oh okay the only reason why what we what do we say around draft time tread on the tires when it comes to running back position in particular but you think that it could be in their best interest to to stay and play more the tread on the tire whole conversation starts on the guys that’s paying you the money yeah that’s just something that they throw out there and say oh yeah the NFL draft is not there to help you as a prospect it’s there to break you down so you can say well this guy didn’t have that many reps well he’s a running back the only way that you get good at pass Pro is by playing more so they haven’t seen pass well he can’t pass bro well he can’t catch out the back field if that’s what the the case is going out out on you and that’s when you’re eval get that eval back and go back in college and learn from it and you don’t have to get beaten up beat up anymore you can go into head coach listen I’m going to be in a top two dra top two rounds I don’t want to practice on Wednesdays I only to go Thursday and Friday cuz I don’t want to beat my body up yeah it’s my third year in college I know every run I know how to pick up every Blitz I just need to go out on Saturdays now and get time on task instead of beating my body up against like we just said the threes I don’t need that get that other guy ready I’m good I’m an NFL player that’s just coming back to in to get my stock level up to play next year at the highest level or do whatever Derk Henry’s doing that helps that makes you just last forever apparently at SP million spend a million and a half on your body he spends uh he spends quite some money um but it it works so you know we can’t we can’t hate on that um particular but no when when we’re looking at this decision that some of these players have to make nil obviously has a big factor in that because you probably wouldn’t be giving the same advice to players maybe 10 years ago in terms of when to go and when to stay now we’re about to enter into the revenue sharing model where there’s going to be less spots uh for some of these players how could that potentially make this a little bit tougher of a decision and like you’ve said might not necessarily be the players decision to make we know coaches have some tough end of season meetings well this one might come out of left field but I believe the division one daa level in the mac and Conference USA and group of five level players are going to get better because you can’t you’re because you’re not going to be able to take those diamond and rough players anymore at the P4 level schools so now they’re just going to drop down so the the play is always going to get better for me if I’m thinking out loud the play is going to get better because you’re going to have older players that you’re going to go after the better players and the lower teer players that are diamond and rough the would say the three stars they’re going to go down and play in a group of five but in two years they’re going to play a bunch of ball and play real well they’re going to level back up to you and you’re going to get an older veteran player that can go right in and play so the the dip off in football is not going to be that hard and parody is going to start happening like faster and you’re going to have the 12 playoff teams you’re going to have three from the Mountain West and guys are going to come all over the place because now everybody know you can go play anywhere and get developed and play and always level up I want to go back to an earlier conversation that uh I had with Brandon Huffman um because we’re getting a tweet here from Adam monster tiger from buff Stampede saying that so far literally every transfer move out of the Buffs program is a player that struggled to get on the field for substantial reps this past season Some solid special teams contributors and some fine football players so no shade intended but just trying to call it how I see it love the honesty we get uh from Adam monster Tiger but are we seeing a change in what Colorado is able to do from a talent acquisition standpoint gone are the days of having to get rid of 97 players and bring in 96 players as they’ve done the last two years has it combed I think they’re cutting down on the misses and I think a lot of schools are cutting down on the misses because you understand exactly what you’re getting before when this transer Porter was brand new to us a lot of the personnel and recruiting department was going off with the notion of potential and what we believe that player was coming out of high school you don’t need to do that anymore it has to go off of production and performance so yes you probably would have took a few players a couple years ago just just to fill your roster but now understanding that you only have 105 potentially yeah those low tier guys that are just hanging on and taking up room at the dining table and taking up meeting room space yeah you don’t need those guys anymore let them go somewhere else let them go play because they’re not doing anything for you in terms of production and wins so that’s a result of the impending Revenue share and the roster limits you don’t think that’s necessarily something that I mean a few years ago with Colorado we were using the term Mass Exodus has there been somewhat of a correction there or do you think it’s based on what’s coming with this house settlement combination of two things okay it could be two things at once they both can be true they both can be true yes the roster getting cut down but also evaluating understanding what wins at that level for some people it take time and when you are in the big when you’re in the Big 12 and understanding that the best team is this how do we get to that and coming in you might think oh we just need fast players on the outside and athletes now you’re saying Kansas has busted us up physically so we now have to construct this roster differently we got to get bigger up front we got to get two more tight ends because we can’t just play with 11 personnel one tight end one running back three receivers we got to be able to go in and flip our roster just to make sure that when we want to get into a battle slugfest when Kansas and Kansas State show up we can handle that if we need to get in shootout against Bor yeah we can do that too tech tech we can do that so it’s just constructing your roster the proper way to play in any time any place in any situation how did their nine and3 record and ending the season as a ranked team help with what their player acquisition process is going to look like now because if we’re seeing Adam monster tiger saying that the only guys that have left are ones that they didn’t necessarily want anyway I mean I I just want to know if there’s a there’s a change at Colorado because it’s transfer portal paloa that should be sponsored by the Colorado Buffalo but we’re not talking about them today well they can be choosing now because they’re not Beggars no they’re winners yeah you’re nine and three and you got to look at it again what prime did for shador and Travis Hunter yep instead of marketing and branding two of the top five are going up to New York for the Heisman they’ve been in commercials lot of cash so you can sit back and say Hey listen we’re only going to take the best of the best in high school and in the portal because we don’t need to fill this roster out with just a bunch of slugs anymore is that something that we maybe will see with other rosters that have a new coach come in and we see that big churn that there’s a year where things level out a little bit are there other programs that that maybe come to mind that we’ve seen that I think if you study the trend of winners mhm of Kurt Rett and Prime if you’re head coach leaving your school and you don’t take yours with you and you just go into the mask of just getting a bunch of transfer portter guys you’re wrong yeah and you’re going to fail because there’s direct evidence of how you win in this new era of transfer portal and getting hired as a new coach has that changed at all how you win from when we first had the transfer portal and we said just get in as many good guys as possible get rid of the ones that you don’t want is there a balance that we feel a little bit better about now that we’ve had a few years of this less misses less misses because get good players and not bad players right less misses because you’re not going off of player potential you’re going off a player production and again you now understand that coaches can bring players with them before it was looked at viewed as taboo you can’t no now it’s like that’s a new thing just happens it just happens you’re leaving coach yeah I’m taking two of my D lineman with me I’m not asking them they’re saying coach I only want to play for you if that’s the case come on because I don’t have to say coach I’m sorry I’m taking these guys with me you’re saying new head coach that’s hiring me not only you going to get the best defensive line coach I got my two best Edge rushers coming with me and my interior defensive lineman coming with me and I’ve looked at your team studied your team and these are two positions of need so I’m the best thing that you got smoking yeah that needs to be a t-shirt I’m the best thing you got smoking especially for our friend smoke Dixon here uh this is the seventh transfer portal cycle which is hard to believe I feel like this is such a New Concept um but we’ve gone through seven of these currently in the seventh gone through six but in terms of the balance of bringing in players in high school versus bringing in players in the portal where have you seen a difference in the types of programs in terms of what the right balance is because there’s got to be something different in terms of the recipe for success for Georgia versus maybe a Northwestern just throwing out a random team there have you found that there’s a difference based on the type of program and uh maybe the history that goes into it just generally um differences when when you look at Georgia Georgia can bring in the best of the best and they do in in terms of high school so if we just use a number say 25 that you can bring in every year Georgia can go out and sign 15 of the best high school players yeah to come in and contribute year one because all you’re looking for is year one contributors to justify pay to them because your teammates looking at him too and say hey you’re getting this justify pay because he’s playing and then sit back in a transfer portal and go get the next 10 that you want at Northwestern you can’t do that yeah because you have to have you have to fill out your roster and they have some academic issues as well too to get P so now you’re at Northwestern you got to go out and get 20 high school players and then you have to get five graduate students because to get into a Northwestern or vanderville it’s tough academically to get that degree how about the two programs that you were at most recently in Maryland versus vanderville how are the strategies different at those two programs two of the you know you know best conferences in terms of um you know what we what we see with the TV money but two very different programs in terms of what you can bring in at Maryland you can bring in really good high school players just because of what you have in that area not so much ADV Vil and when you look at it in terms of branding you can do that at Maryland too because you have Kevin plankin underarm Mike lockley has one of the best mouthpieces in terms of recruiting yeah and his ability to explain to a young man the opportunities of living in the DMV Northern Virginia DC in the Maryland area for when you do graduate I don’t think anybody else can sell that but you also have that in Nashville so they’re two of the same but Maryland success in terms of getting young guys in better the ability to recruit just because of the academic restraints again better success over over the last few years Maryland and when you check the draft Maryland as well too so it’s easier to get those guys in to a school like that but two of my good friends I’m not going to knock either one of them oh nothing to knock I’m just curious from your perspective how how different it is and how you would attack that job but you don’t have to because you get to sit here and hang out with us on our transfer portal paloa show we have one more hour left so last call to get some questions in to get some comments in uh but we’re going to keep rolling here on transfer portal paloa and we’ll be right back after this 247 Sports is your home for college football basketball and recruiting 247 Sports has you covered with industry-leading shows like Josh P’s college football show the college football recruiting show live commitments and our mass network of podcasts become a VIP and find out what’s really going on with your favorite team with inside information from our experts across the country college football basketball and recruiting find it all on 247sports.com and on YouTube e promo code portal for 60% off for all annual VIP membership I’m joined Now by Clint Brewster and Brandon Huffman Huff uh we are back and it is time to talk some quarterbacks quarterbacks always the uh the talk of transfer portal day in terms of what’s out there Daren Minah name that comes to mind from tulan a guy that was lowly recruited out of the state of California we had in the lower 80s we’ll keep that out of the discussion uh but a guy that’s played well Huff what your thoughts so far just in terms on what’s kind of been a quiet day when it comes to quarterbacks yeah I mean I kind of hammered the point home there’s no column accy today like there was last year took a team to you know the year six bowl 11 And1 season goes in the portal and a shock to many will things change after the playoff games are done where four teams are going to have their season come to an end in two weeks four more teams will have their season come to an end a week later will they go into the portal after that are we going to have you know situations like Malik Murphy a year ago where Texas made the playoff but he had to make the decision go into the portal now to find my landing spot so there just isn’t I mean there’s some familiar names a Tyler van djk obviously a Jackson Arnold Connor Wegman but there doesn’t seem to be the impact quarterbacks going in yet but will that change with the expansion of the playoff and now more teams needing those quarterbacks maybe those schools are saying hey stick with us until January we’ll take care of some things on the nil side just we need the depth you look what Happ happened to Georgia on Saturday Carson Beck gets hurt gunar Stockton has to go in so now you got the very real threat of our quarterback room could be depleted if guys are leaving do we entice them to stay at least through the existence of the playoffs that’s what’s going to be kind of fascinating to watch will we have some bigger names go in in the coming weeks Clint welcome to the show man uh I’m going to te you up here all right so Clint Brewster obviously working behind the scenes on the transfer reporter rankings you and I along with Derek chain uh trying to kind of grapple this thing put our arms around it a little bit there have been a lot guys that have gone in at the quarterback position uh Huff mentioned Conor Wegman from Texas STM Miller Moss Jackson AR we spent a lot of time on those guys um some guys we haven’t talked about Matthew sluka UNLV we haven’t talked a lot about Devon dampier uh from um from New Mexico you think about Thomas castalanos as well uh who are some guys maybe kind of in that mid three star range that kind of stick out to you a little bit yeah not not mid three star but more higher three star that we have right now is Cadence Salter he’s one that I I really want to see what he can bring to the table and maybe be an NFL guy we don’t quite have an NFL grade on him yet but he’s got that proven production that you want he’s got uh the game started the game like he’s got a really high win percentage as a as a quarterback in the portal I mean I just I I feel like he’s a guy that can come in and create big plays for a program and really do some good things I mean he’s he’s one that that last year was linked to Auburn if you remember right and um you know I think that that uh he’s the one of the most interesting ones for me to see what he can do all right some other guys that I know you like and I want to make sure that we hit on a little bit Huff I know you have the background here as well Ashen Daniels at Stanford you turn on the tape there it’s a roller coaster a little bit of everything I think a guy that we have graded I think kind of in that 86 range that could go higher you think about the running ability over 800 yards rushing I think he had 13 ints this year it’s been a little bit of a roller coaster kandria as well uh another guy that we’ve gone back and forth on Keon Jenkins at a FIU is there anybody in this group that you you think to yourself you know what maybe one of these guys can make a jump in the right system right fit uh that kind of stands out to you Daniels is intriguing you know and defin keep in mind they also lost Justin Lamson who had seen some spot Duty as a starter this year who was originally at Syracuse signed with him out of high school but a Sacramento guy the trit guys so he loses Justin Lanson then Ashton Daniels you know the talk about him going to the portal too is something that probably not something Stanford really wants to deal with you know they just uh made a move they hired the former head coach at Sacramento State Andy Thompson to come in as their codc but they haven’t addressed the offensive issues and now without a quarterback does that mean you know bar BM becomes a guy now ask for landing spots with Ashton Daniels I would imagine being that he’s got ties to the sou to Southeast being originally from Georgia perhaps he ends up somewhere down in the ACC in the SEC you know a lot of guys that leave Stanford they’re theyve go with degree in toe so he’s going to probably be a grad transfer could be you know somebody that maybe at in at Virginia you know with clandra going into the portal now he goes back into that region has the opportunity to Contin continue to be at a really good school academically but he’s kind of an intriguing guy because there were some moments especially against Colorado last year we had that rally down the stretch to to beat them um and then you had moments this year where kind of left you puzzled and that was kind of showing that that Stanford jump wasn’t coming in your two but I I think he’ll have some suitors wouldn’t be surpris if he went a little bit more regionally back to where he’s from Huff I I do want to ask just more about Matthew sluka one of the more intriguing names that I think um you know we have not spent a whole time on but you got to remember I mean this guy 3 and 0 as a starter uh at UNLV jumps into the portal you think about the market for a guy that we have a 88 rating on which would be like a tier 2 priority free agent some people might scoff at that a little bit obviously the completion percentage down but a guy that has rushed uh for over a thousand yards you go back to his career at Holy Cross certainly a dynamic kid um I’m just kind of wondering Huff what you think and like hey is this a lesson learned for maybe some players out there that say maybe don’t negotiate in the middle of the season and there’s there’s two sides to every story I think a lot of people will point at that and say well you know maybe he was wrong or maybe UNLV didn’t live up uh to their side of the deal um that being said I can’t help but think more of the coaches out there are probably looking at it from Barry odm’s side than they are Matthew slcas side and saying you know what I can’t have my starting quarterback in the middle of the Season where we’re three and 0 regardless of the situation maybe regardless of the details bail on me that’s just not something uh that I’m particularly interested in there are so many layers to that one too because there’s a lesson that can be learned on both sides don’t negotiate in the middle of the Season make sure you get all your te’s crossed and your eyes dotted if you’re a coach make sure that you know what your coordinators and your Collective are saying and that you guys are all the same page at the same time there’s only been three losses by unlb since that decision was made two of them were to Boise State who’s the number three team in the playoffs and then to Syracuse at home so it seemed like unlb didn’t skip a beat offensively in losing sluka does that devalue his Market given that he walked away in the middle of the season I mean yeah there’s going to be coaches that are going to look at it from the odm side of things and may hold that against him then they look at it from a talent standpoint did he upgrade and kind of goose their talent to start yeah he he certainly did but UNLV didn’t skip a beat when he left the team they were able to continue to win and you know were within figuring out a way to stop Ashton jenty from going to the playoffs themselves so it it will be fascinating to watch if that affects Luca’s Market this year but it’s also going to be not an interesting to watch it absolutely will be watch this season this offseason by coaches and collectives you know all across the board to make sure they’re not getting themselves into situations that they you know end up finding their quarterback leaving in week three Clint you and I over the last two hours uh you all day uh me while I was on set obviously I haven’t been able to do that a couple guys have wi in the portal one of those names Mario craer from Mississippi State a guy that we had ranked as a fourstar coming out and you talk about a difficult guy to pin a little bit uh Elite Track and Field background smaller receiver hovering around 5 foot n we went back and forth do we keep the fourstar on do we take it off there were some off off field reservations as well um but this is a dude even though the production’s under 400 yards as a freshman super Dynamic kid averaged over 21 yards per catch that’s one of the names that pops out but you know I want to I I want to te you up on maybe one of these receivers and our guy from North Texas D DT Sheffield a guy that you like a lot you and I are going back and forth trying to figure out hey is he 89 is he a 90 you’re a big fan of this kid why do you like him so much I mean he kind of reminds me of Silas Balin going to to Texas I think that he brings a lot of speed and space you know with what he can do after the catch he can bring some return value I think that he’s really electric with the ball in his hand and he can make some plays and and just kind of be that spark plug on offense that you need you know that that weapon that can you know kind of do things in all different ways as far as taking a speed sweep or taking a smoke screen and and um you know really doing some things with the football all right another guy I want to ask you about real quick uh stribbling from Oklahoma State right you and I we go through it like I said 8990 those are the fun parts of the conver ation this is the one that I think you and I were in agreement with big 6’2 200lb kid physical typical of what you see at Oklahoma State what do you like so much about this guy I liked his strength through the catch point you know and his catch radius he really really caught the ball strongly I mean he had production the past several seasons I think that he’s a lot like CJ Daniels from LSU who’s in the in the transfer portal um and we we also had a fourar ranking on him and and uh I mean you just you just look at his strength through through the catch point and um you know how he can be as a blocker program guy I mean cultural fit I I think that he kind of checks all the boxes there not sure if he’s the fastest guy but but he’s really impressive on film we spent a couple hours going over all the big names that have come out but you know from a depth standpoint what positions are you guys looking at you know C I know you’ve been multitasking all day Clint you’ve been putting grades in watching film 4:00 Central Time on on Monday what would you say right now in each your opinions are the deepest you offensively coup what side do you think of the what position on offense do you think right now has the deepest maybe the most intriguing players in it at this point receiver is definitely the most bank for your buck I mean we’re talking about 30 guys with winnable plus grades here so you know we talked a lot about Dane key we talked about Nick Anderson excuse me but some of these guys that have been entering lately uh Mario crarer that we just talked about he’s a super fascinating kid the production’s not there but you talk about the projection you think about all these kids Eric Rivers is a guy that we haven’t spent a lot of time on from fius so if you’re one of those teams out there if you’re looking for uh you know I would maybe the gamebreaking receiver is is not the the right way to kind of label it you’re looking for a solid number two or maybe better categorize as a 1B option there’s plenty of those you know you’re looking at eight to 10 guys and then the other Market that I think is is pretty heavy interior offensive line you know I talked about it hunters and brono Illinois State Patrick CIS uh from Arkansas uh Josh Thompson out of Northwestern you and I both like and then Huff you’ll love this one Jordan white reminds me a lot of Nick Harris who we had at Washington so um I would say receiver receiver and interior iil if you’re a team out there looking to go get a starter for one to two years there there’s definitely some meat left on the bone before we get to that there’s statement just came out about Carson Beck while we’re talking about you know gunar Stockton coming in says the Georgia quarterback Carson Beck suffered an elbow injury during Saturday SE Conference Championship game he and his family are exploring treatment options and there is no current timetable on his return Then Kirby Smart went on to say Carson and Brett uh alluding to Brett thoron their punter are both Fierce competitors and extremely hard workers I’m confident they will attack their rehab with the same determination they exhibit in their daily habits we will be here to support them every step of the way George’s got the first round by by virtue of winning the SC CC we don’t know what the timetable is for his return but how does Georgia head into their playoff game with their opponent still to be determined uncertain if their quarterback will even be ready to go well it sounds like it’s going to be gunar Stockton I mean just from that ambiguous statement um obviously the buy helps that’s why you played the SEC Championship two lost team going into that game but gunar Stockton if you didn’t watch that game that team fully believes in that kid um just in terms of what he brings to the table gutsy in terms of that run that he had it was kind of like Friday Night Lights his helmet off you know the team rallies around him gets right back up so he’s got some stuff to him I think Georgia believes firmly that they can win and compete for a national title the other one is Thorson the punter you know I think a lot of people might gloss over that and say all Carson Beck is banged up uh but Thorson is one of those guys he is a huge piece to what they want to do especially on special teams flipping field position uh so I’m going to be fascinated George is one of those teams they just kind of scratch claw what’s it going to look like with gunar Stockton at the home Clint what’s your feeling I mean I I love what gunar Stockton brought to the table after just the toughness the courage that he had obviously they’re gonna have to put him in some some really favor favorable uh positions throwing the football I don’t think he was quite ready to throw the the football with with some volume but I think that they can cover up some of his weaknesses and and um you know run the ball some with him and and do some quarterback movement stuff you saw how tough he was um running the football so I I’m I I like you know what he brings to the table I think that that uh they’re in good hands with him well obviously the win in the SEC Championship giving Georgia that much needed buy give them a little bit more time with Carson Beck uh but a lot of injuries are impacting college football with the playoff coming up thank you Clint for uh what you brought these last few minutes I don’t know how hard you worked all day let’s take a look at some of those key injuries that that are impacting college football here in in the weeks ahead uh or sorry not injuries entries my bad it’s been a long day for all of us Mario craer with a 92 up at the top Cameron SS with a 91 and Edge rusher Deon stribling who just left Oklahoma State a 90 Quinton Joiner former USC running back originally from the state of Texas with a 90 and then Aiden bfield defensive line or offensive lineman with an 87 reminder that for the next 45 minutes you could still use our promo code portal for 60% off an annual VIP membership that promo code is Portal go to the sign up page on 24/7 Sports for 60% off an annual VIP membership today might be the first day that the portal is open there’s going to be portal news trickling out for quite some time we still may have some coaching changes and all the playoff coverage the February signing period And so much more so get on 247 sports today we bring back smoke Dixon back to discuss things break down so we talked CP with with offense and with Clint you know some of the more intriguing position some of the more intriguing offensive positions that are open in the portal based on what what you’ve seen today though what are some of the defensive position groups that look the most intriguing the most impaling and you’re going to have the widest array of talent available well when you look at the portal everyone always wants to say how are the splash players going to show show up Co you and I know about it Splash players aren’t going to just show up in your doorsteps so the number one position that I’m always looking at number one position to me in this portal always a depth defensive line man as you comb deeper and deeper you’re trying to be able to play in any conference that you’re in 8 to n deep and when you can do that you look at the playoffs right now the teams with the stronger guys in the trenches are the guys that can end up showing up and playing well for you Allah Li what Miami did last year oh miss did it this year even though they’re not in the game in the playoffs right now but the interior defensive lineman are one of the ones that I really like yeah just following up on that I think teams are doing a lot better job of playing defense especially with the big boys right I mean both sides of the line of scrimmage you think about the defensive lineman I mean think about the guys that we have in the portal right now Jem Otis you know you’re talking about a guy that had a couple surgeries before this season then had a scheme change uh with with wac there in Tuscaloosa bear Alexander has had his fair share of all the field issues uh kashon silver is a guy that we love from a height weight standpoint uh but still waiting on to put it on tape you know Kelby Collins another guy that we like former top 247 guy saw his snaps really get cut in half uh this season out of Florida and then you got some other guys Santana Hopper Justin spoon you know when you talk about the depth I think some of these teams are going to have to be pretty Savvy with the way that they go about the point of attack and then you know the edge position I you know I think a guy that just popped up here uh over the last couple hours this kid from Kent State Cameron olds uh we just put a 91 grade on big fan of him just got a LSU offer what he can do you turn on the tape against uh Penn State uh Tennessee um you look at this kid Pittsburgh as well um you know one of those guys man that I think that’s why you have Personnel departments you’re sniffing out those guys from the group of five that could come in make a difference um so there’s starting to be some names that start to trickle in but as smoke said right now those big bodies are are hard to come by and I don’t think any of these players are catching any of these teams off guard anymore especially the top 12 to 25 programs in the country you know I want to touch on that you said you know these Personnel departments you guys both worked in Personnel you both worked in an era where the transfer portal was starting to become a prominent stop to fill up those gaps that you made ahead how far in advance do you you think these Personnel departments are looking are they starting in September when they see weaknesses on their own team are they starting in Spring football when they notice that they may have some guys that aren’t going to be ready by the Fall how soon is too soon to start looking at some of that FCS G5 Talent well it’s never too soon to be evaluating your own team so coming out of spring you should always say where are we deficient at and that’s when you can attack the portal in that sense and throughout the season from the second that fall ball starts you have to evaluate your conference but also evaluate your team because if you’re not doing that you don’t know how good you have to be in order to win your conference and you don’t know who you need when it comes to high school recruiting or the portal so it’s never too early and the more you can be prepared for the portal and high school recruiting the better you are because you don’t want to get caught today saying well we we still need one defensive lineman you should already going in saying we have two guys that are draft eligible might be leaving we got two guys in the room that still haven’t bought in so right now we need a minimum of four five Max because we have a chance of letting one guy go so you have to be more proactive then reactive in terms of how you’re attacking your roster construction from the day you step foot in Spring ball yeah I think the the other thing that stands out is the worlds are colliding right you’re seeing bigger Personnel staffs and then what they do is Advance scouting and then part of that advanced scouting is conference scouting so once you see some of these teams from let’s call it the C and you know a couple guys from Mississippi State jumping the portal uh those guys are going to be well equipped you know just in terms we saw it Eric Singleton in Georgia right they had to scout that guy so they know him they know what he’s about uh gives him more confirmation bias more validation when those guys jump in um and I think ultimately at the end of the day we’re going to see more of a financial investment in Personnel departments on the Collegian side than we are high school you know High School is a little bit more predictable you have more data points um longer time to get to know these guys when in the portal you know a lot of times you don’t know when these guys are jumping in things are happening quick um you need more eyes more ears to validate quickly in the process because ultimately I mean they’re a number at the end of the day you know so you got to feel really comfortable how much money you’re going to commit to these guys so as a REV share comes I think more money is going to be pumped into the Collegian side I’m going to put a pin there because we got breaking news Iowa State backup quarterback JJ Cole enters the portal he’s a former fourstar and the lead 11 finalist and at the same time Gavin wiet is leaving Kentucky entering the portal he played n games for the Wildcats after previously transferring from Ruckers former fourstar as well Iowa State obviously had Rocco backed as their quarterback but with the report earlier that Adam schfer had about Anthony Beck interviewing for the West Virginia job at his Alma moer should he get that job does Roco follow him and what does this do for JJ Cole and then Gavin whimet leaving his second school I know whimet was a guy you’re familiar with smoke yeah backup quarterbacks I’m never always sold on Co because you can have a young guy be your backup quarterback a backup quarterback jumping in the portal I’m real hesitant and finding out why did you jump in because you haven’t played and I don’t know how much you can play because again you’re the backup guy and are you running away from competition now if he was a starter in the year and played six games got replaced now you have evidence on him of what he can do but one of the worst things that you want to do in this modern day in the transfer portal is go out and invest on on potential because if you’ve been at a school for two or three years Coop and I’ll say it again at minimum you should have least played in every single game if you’re worthy of it because if you’re good enough I’m going to and I’m the coordinator I’m going to find ways to get you on the football field and if you’re not worthy of getting on the football field flat out you’re just not good enough right and and I think Gavin whims it is you know one of those guys played early I think was a reclass um I got to go back and and double check that but reass coming out of the state of Kentucky went to Ruckers had some success early transfers into Kentucky you know which was a little bit of an open quarterback room um but I’m looking at Kentucky here man they got to get their their quarterback position really kind of figured out because I mean you got Dan key you got bar and brown you got kwn silver you got some dudes uh hit in the portal that all have NFL draft type grade so I think the quarterback uh position is going to be incredibly important Bush hampon uh who I know well offensive coordinator over there uh it’s going to be interesting to see how uh coach stops bounces back what they do how aggressive they are um you know obviously with Vander grip this past year obious I I don’t think it was good enough uh and then the other one JJ Cole you know he was a pretty interesting guy um I think there were some people that you know like JJ Cole was tall uh long uh had a strong performance at Elite 11 um you know but this was interesting this was a guy that hadn’t materialized yet so trying to find reps somewhere else and I think a guy that probably not going to end up at a power four program but probably transfer down to G5 level well speaking of Kentucky we got some breaking news per Matt zenet former Kentucky defense alignment keesan silver has announced that he will visit and focus on four schools University of Florida University of Miami Michigan and USC we have three schools that have kind of played the portal pretty heavily especially Miami and USC Florida doing a little bit more but Michigan a little bit of an outlier in that they kind of tended to lean towards the Homegrown Talent but those four schools involved with kesan silver we know defensive lineman are going to be at a premium yeah dude’s about to get paid uh when you talk about those four schools I mean that’s what it is Florida Miami now Michigan we saw with Bryce Underwood So they set that President and then what was a what was the fourth one was it USC us yeah so you know you think about uh silver what he brings to the table it’s really just size I mean you talk about a nose uh nose guard there with you know one technique that can do a lot of different things but you know former fstar guy that I think a lot of people a lot of and then with Michigan you know you look at them Mason Graham off to the NFL Kenneth Grant off to the NFL um so they’re going to have to plug some things there Miami always going to be aggressive with what they do up front uh Florida another team um that obviously trying to reinforce the trenches and make a playoff run and then USC you know we talk about it all the time where do you get your beef from they just went down to New Orleans to get jaem Stewart uh they need to fortify that defensive line bar Alexander was another guy that they lost in the portal um so they’re always going to be opportunity istic and you know silver is one of those guys I I’ll pull up my rankings here and these are changing by the minute um but silver is one of those guys we have in the top 25 he’s rank number 25 we have a 90 grade on him and you know it as well as I do this guy could be 75% of his potential and get drafted in the late day three just because of kind of what he offers from a size standpoint at at 64 335 so um I think there are a lot of teams really intrigued with the idea kashon silver and you know when you’re getting a one-year rental why not right I know that a lot of Scouts NFL Scouts love him but again what’s missing production and consistency and when you talk about those three teams SC just moved into the Big 10 this year where do they have to get better at trenches Michigan losing two where do they have to get better at trenches Miami they understand that in order to compete and get into the playoffs again trenches so this guy coming in and jumping in he’s creaming the crop right now because he’s one of the few that can come in heavy-handed Stout at his point of attack and win where they’re need when they need him right now and that’s in the Big 10 or you can call Miami ACC but they’re really want to compete to be in a top 12 team and if you’re kashan silver I mean it it makes sense I just I I just talked about it you know Jim Otis big body didn’t play a lot had some medical issues bar Alexander off the- field issues so you throw in silver and all of a sudden here’s a guy that started 22 games and he’s looking pretty good um and you know the guys behind them are guys with not a lot of production so it’s really really really difficult to find those type of body types and those guys that can produce and Coop here’s a crazy thing a lot of people don’t look at Michigan and saying they got money how foolish are they Michigan got a ton of cash and they’re just they’re one of the dark horses that’s sneaking up and everyone you look around say where they getting this money for they just keep on getting players like that up until this year I listen obviously they were they were not um you know this is one of the teams that if they chose to tap into it um they were going to be one of the more more difficult teams we have not seen Michigan this aggressive in the nil era until this year kind of started with the quarterback and now the dominoes have you know have appeared to be fallen and now you see a team that’s aggressive kind of going all in right now but when you see Oregon pop up and it’s showtime and you see that the only way that you’ve beaten Ohio St just cuz they’re afraid of you this year but the talent level got to go up in terms of Michigan in the depth you can’t go out there anymore and be sluggish and play 22 21 12 Personnel ball in last they’re saying Hey listen we got money we’ll put it all in because that’s a new era that we’re in and I think Michigan’s a dark horse in showing people that we’re in here to play with the big boys you know to that point I want to ask you guys who do you think I mean you mentioned those schools Miami USC we know they’ve aggressively used the portal we know they’ve used the resources at the portal portal allows them to utilize and now we talk Michigan with Bryce Underwood coming in you know the reports that Larry Allison is now involved there and you know the ultimate fantasy football roster and having the resources to do that but who are the schools do you think we’ll see the same Usual Suspects being aggressive or some schools you know after Florida State went heavy in the portal a year ago do we anticipate that a school like a Florida state is going to be aggressive in the portal again or did they maybe learn their lesson obviously High School recruiting hasn’t been great but are there some schools in addition of Florida state that you know maybe changing their approach to the portal in this particular cycle I think with Florida state they’re so deep down the rabbit hole that you know he’s got a win this year and Mike Norvell um you know that they got to go back to the portal that they got too many important critical positions that they got to get right starting with quarterback um long term if you’re Mike Norvell I think you have to get back to high school it just really depends right I mean some of these coaches are kind of caught in a pickle a little bit in terms of where they are do I have to win now or do you want me to build it the right way right so Brian Kelly Brent vinales you look at some Lincoln Riley in USC it’s it’s strange because you sacrifice a little long-term Integrity of your roster to push all the chips and oh miss was kind of in that situation they went all in this year they lose three games now you know I think Lane kein has a security blanket to say all right I can go back to the well in the high school side um yeah but it’s going to be interesting and then in terms of The Usual Suspects I think we saw on signing Day Oregon Texas uh those two teams individually and then smoke mentioned it Michigan uh those are two teams Oregon in Texas that from an nil pocket standpoint I don’t think anybody wants anything to do with not too far from Texas is Texas a& am and according to 247 Sports Mike roach Micah Hudson who went the portal today the former festar receiver from Texas Tech will be on campus in College Station over the next two days so you know we obviously saw him go to Texas Tech it not work out we anticipate that Texas Texas Tech Will or Texas an will be involved there but we’re now seeing the quick movements is that something that you can anticipate seeing where you got a little bit of a window before the bull season starts before the playoffs start that some of these schools are going to try to get these guys in as quick as possible now remember they can take visits between January 1st and January 5th but some schools will be wrapping up their bowl games or wrapping up their playoff games is the calendar expedit a lot of these recruitments or do you think guys have in high school an elite player gets to take as long as he wants now are these guys trying to make their decisions much quicker does the calendar expedite things with the playoffs in a couple of weeks kind of how do you see this fig you know with schools like Texas and Georgia and you know Ohio State schools that may need portal guys but they’re also preparing for the playoffs how does this affect their calendar I think it’s two things the understand that you need to get in early to get in that Playbook and get comfortable when the play place that you’re at and financially the money runs out so if you’re one of these Marquee players and you get in first you get to ask for as much as you want to and you can get that but you don’t want to be one of the last and getting whatever is left over for you because then you’re going to be screwed out of it and I think the players are looking at it right now because we all thought that this is a slush fun that was just left out there and everybody can grab it but these Agents from guys that I’m talking to and Personnel people they’re finally understanding that there’s a budget to this most teams aren’t going to stick to their budget but how much you can spend to each player it adds up so if I’m the Marquee guy I want to get signed today because I can drive up whatever Market that I want to and not be on the outside looking in in term much in terms of how much I can get on that last day well Huff you you brought it up about the calendar being expedited I mean how how much of a bandwidth do you think Steve sarkeesian has for Micah Hudson or Georgia right now in the playoffs I mean and all fairness to them I’m not some of these guys are great they you know they they can master all these things um but you know you look at Texas A&M they’re not in the playoffs they got to get ready for a bowl game they’ve had a couple weeks to kind of put a plan together they understand what this looks like and you know it’s called a spade a spade they probably been working on Micah Hudson for quite some time now right it’s not like the portal open today and you know it’s the first time that they had contact so um yeah no I find it pretty interesting and then from a from a football standpoint you look at Texas A&M I think they only have one receiver over 500 yards is Noah Thomas um but you look at what theyve done Jerome miles they bring in the five-star receiver who we like a lot they bring in Kel Sean Johnson that we like a lot um you know you think about Terry busy who they had last year now you throw in Micah Hudson it kind of reminds me when we’re at Washington we had to rip that receiver room apart you had to flip it on its head and how do you give a Young quarterback like Marcel Reed the best chance to succeed you give him guys that can do a lot of different things Terry bus is one of the more versatile young upand cominging players in the country Micah Hudson I think is a guy that can play in the slot operate on the perimeter Jerome miles is the verticality uh kelan Johnson’s an exciting player too so Texas A&M one aggressive off season away from completely flipping the script in the receiver room not to mention Noah thas coming back you know it kind of gives him a big X so um they’ll be five deep there which is pretty exciting and they weren’t good enough there this year so that’s a team understands uh hey we got to get better at this one position what do we got to do to fix it and is being super aggressive uh going about their business and Coop and you know when you have a quarterback players show up and they want to play that’s a reason why you see a lot of players wanting to go down to Florida Texas A&M for Marcel Reed just being that Dynamic playmaker you want to go down there and play with that because if you don’t have a quarterback in terms of a receiver you might as well just get out and start playing another position you know I want to ask you guys this because we saw this is the first year where Signing Day happened before the portal open so you have down to the wire recruitments that were going on last week in the final 11th hour before announcements were made and financial aate agreements were signed you talked about the budgets you talked about the slush funds that people look at it like a slush fund but that there is a budget that there is a cap we assume that the house is going to pass and we’re going to have Revenue sharing beginning next year but if you’re a college program that you’re a player or two away but you also really want to win that recruiting battle how much did last week kind of mess with your math this week or are you just kind of playing hey we’ll figure that out let’s get the players in we’ll figure out the the finances later how do you close on a guy that you’ve been recruiting for two and a half years to get a guy that you’ve been recruiting for two and a half hours well this is pro football is probably one of the greatest games if you’re never one or two players to win if it’s only one player it’s a quarterback position so you have to be able to build your team all the way out and coopa if you and I go back into the old boardroom you and I would probably say okay let’s divide this pot up in terms of salary cap into the thirds let’s what third are we giving towards our own players high school and transfer portal and once you have that budget you have to stick to it and that’s what I said earlier you have to have a plan going into the portal and signing day and also keeping your team together and understanding what it is and stick stick to that plan because the second NE you vary off of it just because of one player your whole entire operation blows up and there’s not one player that I can see right now that you say you know what that guy’s going to bring us an afal Championship because the best player out the portal last year you and I both agreed to it was cam Mo yeah he brought you 11 wins but he still didn’t bring you to the promised land so you still need more players around that in order to win in the Ultimate Team game he did all he could though all he good no doubt about it I’m I’m not knocking him but you have to have a plan for success and I don’t think just one player or the highest player that that we rate or they rate is going to really change your team that much in terms of winning an Ultimate Team game right it has to be supplemented what the other thing that I think is interesting I think a lot of these teams it’s kind of it’s kind of faceless as they put a board together you know they know what’s coming back in their roster they grade their own team and then they say you know what right tackle spot we need a winnable plus player here’s x amount of money that we’re going to put here at receiver we need a game breaker I want an allconference guy you know we’re willing to pay 8 900k whatever it is um you know so the money’s flying around right now and obviously I think that’s the way they see it um you know so it’s interesting I I I think it’s more kind of mix and match I think the money leads to the player more than the player leads to the money if that makes sense before we get to our our next question I want to give this opportunity if you have a question throw it in the YouTube or on our Twitter or YouTube and you can ask your question on air use the hashtag portal paloa onx throw that question in there we will answer it in our final 30 minutes uh before we wrap up here in a little less than a half hour but if you have a question use # portal paloa and we’ll do our best to answer it I want to go back to the discussion we were having earlier about you know how soon do you start looking at Players how soon are they looking at FCS players but I want to kind of touch on the FCS players because you know you look at a Jared verse situation you look at a cam Ward and how they impacted their respective teams when they went there is there a cap of how many FCS players if you’re a school that you mentioned that you know you’re not just one or two players away You’re maybe seven to 10 players away do you try to go heavy on relative power five programs power four programs do you try to get a healthy mix of G5 are seven FCS guys too much like how do you balance the numbers of what level you want to bring to your team out of the portal ability that’s that’s all it is production and ability and the reason why I CP and I might be on the same page with this I’d rather get guys that are leveling up CP are coming up from the the group of five pack ivy league performers that performed to the high high high level and is looking forward towards coming to a big 10 or SEC or ACC team in order to help himself out and the more you can do that instead of always looking at the number three offensive tackle at say Georgia that didn’t play but was a five-star recruit that’s where you go into missing the board and talking about players that can come in and help you day one it’s kind of how our board’s shaping up too I mean if you look at some of these guys that are higher ranked I mean you know Eric rivers from FIU we’ve talked about Zim brono a lot uh from Illinois State I mean you go down the list this drik Simmons kid we hadn’t spent a lot of time on but coming from Western Carolina and I’m sure the the reason you love him is the same reason I love him is because PL plug him in at right tackle Right Guard left guard uh the versatility pops an ideal world for a college football playoff team that’s your six seventh offensive lineman that’s what you want that can spot start so um you know a couple of these kids tied in from Ball State tied in from uh Charlotte as smoke said it’s not so much how many do we take from the FCS how many we take from the group of five I mean take the ball players right the the ball game is a ball game so we’re going to take the guys with ability I think it’s more about consistency height weight speed are we building a room that makes sense that can compete for a national championship right well a team that’s a power four School in Oklahoma Brent venal breaking news losing another player to the portal defensive back Kai Walker will be entering the transfer portal coming off the season which he had 24 tackles and six pass breakups four the Sooners we see some of the offensive players that they lost but is losing defensive players concerning when that’s really been Venable’s baby and that’s his side of the ball that he really has control with well B most teams don’t lose players that they want and it’s just like free agency in the NFL if they’re not keeping you and they can because financially Oklahoma can do whatever they want most of the time they’re asking you to leave and I don’t know if that’s the case right now but if you’re just upset at playing at one of the best schools and not wanting to go out and compete and you can’t earn that playing time there’s something up with you I’m never going to look at the program say okay why why can’t the program figure it out as a player I think you got to figure that out on your own and if you haven’t played that much in your backup and you believe that you can go somewhere else and play that’s on you but losing a player in a transfer portal that’s not a significant starter or someone that impacts your team that much you’re just looking at a player that you can possibly just replace with another guy behind them and I will say from a from a high school standpoint Oklahoma’s done a good job defensively um you know I think there probably a lot of Sooners fans out there you know a lot to be desired offensively but defensively you know this been a tough unit um and I like some of the guys that they brought in over the last couple years at corner and you think about uh Kai Walker guy that started eight games in 2024 what’s that look like I think anytime um you know you’re losing a a contributing piece context matters you know can we upgrade there is there another young guy pushing them is is there another guy that we want to get more playing time so um you know with him specifically not the most familiar with his game but obviously I think that would be the one thing that I would warn about before just saying hey granular take you know this is a big loss for for U smoke you made a good point you said that a lot of these guys are you know if they want you they’re going to keep you yeah and we see today we you know we’ve got the rosters pairing down to 105 we have schools that have numerous players on their roster a lot of guys are going to the portal and you know again fans are upset thinking they’re leaving on their own they want to be there they want to say that how much more difficult does the roster situation make it to keep these guys and our schools having to say we got to get rid of x amount but we can’t get rid of Y amount because then we’re really hurting how do you balance that now when you’re trying to manage a roster of 105 people and some schools are saying we’re not going past 85 well when you when you look at it all you have to get the best football players that’s going to help your team and 85 players on top of the rest that you can supplement to your 105 with the revenue sharing you come off and do whatever you want to do it’s how how are you going to allocate the rest of that money towards that so whenever you’re losing players and you’re trying to add players onto your team that’s where the recruiting department the Personnel department they all have to be aligned with the coaches and especially the head coach say how do we want to build our team do we want to go with seven DBS that we know that can play and average out to 13 and the other three 10 full scholarship guys and the other three guys we’re going to try to find a way to allocate them through a quarter of a scholarship a half scholarship treating like the old division one daa model because that’s the way you have to look at how you’re going to construct your team moving forward in the 105 era because 85 CP you and I both know you can’t practice in a fall practice or spring and get your team better with 105 guys or even 85 full scholarship players right I I I think this is the part that’s going to be more fascinating is all right where the Rev rev share comes into place and hey we got a allotment for 105 spots pay these guys x amount of money maybe 86 through 105 looks this way uh but if we don’t have more than 85 players that’s money that you can pump back in to the guys at the top of your roster you know it’s going to be fascinating with schools that are walk-on programs um you know you look at Georgia what they’ve done Dan Jackson um you know their running back uh over the over there as well um you know are those guys going to be scholarship guys for them or is everybody going to say you know what we got to hit a double we got to hit a triple are you okay taking a single you know 86 through 105 and say hey these are guys in our program we’re essentially going to look at as uh preferred Walk-Ons or practice squad type of players so I’m kind of fascinated I I do think ultimately at the end of the day it’s going to come down to financially what makes the most sense and how do you put your team in the most competitive position to compete we got a viewer question here from PK delis 23 if you guys have a question you can throw it into the chat there at ashportal palooza PK delis 23 asks is there any news on the current UCLA quarterback situation Ethan garbers for another year doesn’t look I mean there’s been talked that he could get another year conceivably because he played the minimum amount of games he was in the 2020 class did not played that 2020 season didn’t count against his eligibility but Justin Martin’s in the portal Ethan garbers is likely done do you see any quarterbacks that might be a good fit there or do you think you really pushes to bring garbers back for another year well what’s funny about it is a Signing Day flip that none of us ever talked about was Madden imal Ava Nico’s little brother was committed to UCLA for quite some time Eric bemy leaves then mad malava flips to Arkansas which already had a quarterback in the class so you’re looking at UCLA uh Justin Martin’s out of there who I’m I’m I’m a fan of I I think he’s got some ability uh if garbs comes back uh I think you’re in a good spot but yeah UCLA should be in one of those teams that is looking for a quarterback either to compete with Ethan garbers or add a little bit of depth you know so it just really kind of depends on the temperature of Deshawn Foster in terms of how do I feel about my team you know how do we go from what was it four wins this season to being Bowl elig next season um I think that comes down I if I had to BET right now they’re going to go the continuity route with garbers um but they they make a change at coordinator right since Siri comes over from Indiana uh so it’s going to be fascinating and then outside of that you know if garbers were to go into the portal he’d probably be a top 10 arm right now so how much better you going to get is Conor wigman really going to upgrade uh over Ethan garbers that much right that would be the question so uh we’ll see what happens what names do enter the portal about the quarterback position but if UCLA were to get in the portal I think it’d be for depth purposes only got another viewer question again if you have a question throw it in the chat there ashportal paloa this question comes from Isaac on YouTube what’s up with the Dylan Rola to Miami talk obviously RI has not put his name in the portal but Chris Hummer hinted this morning that there could be the possibility that riela does go into the portal and not for nil reasons but for winning reasons for competitive reasons yeah it’s you know it’s it’s interesting you look at Nebraska and we talked about it but you know defensively Prince well man Mellen uh you look at James Williams another guy uh coordinator change which I thought was necessary uh but it would have been better if they got it right the first time you bring in Dana hogerson right um now you’re looking at Nebraska which was kind of an uneven ending to their season and for Matt rule this is this is kind of not what you want for a quarterback that transferred four times and I school either um you know so I’ll be fascinated and what I mean by this is the pattern if you study Dylan Rola trust me we very high on the player um but the pattern of movement this would not be a shock you know if there was any a level of adversity or uncomfort or you know maybe there was a more enticing situation somewhere uh for Dylan Rola I think kity would be the way to go here um but it would not would it would it surprise me yes would it shock me know and I do think there is something uh to potentially keep an eye on there yeah this troubles me just for you looking at a a guy that this talented but often runs when situations get tough now if I’m taking in a guy like that Co I got to do a whole lot of homework just because you’re bringing him into a Miami team that cam W just showed you what leadership looks like and just looking at the personality and just the history of both those two guys one guy’s ran to competition it looks like one guy is always running away from competition so if he does show up to Miami what are you getting you’re getting a talented guy but when you need that tough situational player to come in and make those plays and everyone looking at and saying Hey listen what you got for me QB don’t know if that’s what it is so if I had to give any advice to riola I was just say stick this one out and figure it out because you have one of the better offensive Minds that’s showed up to Nebraska and it’s going to help you in the long run right and you know I mean riol is one of those guys man I mean people want to fall in love with him everybody’s going to see him and say all right look at this guy you know he’s 63 plus 220 pounds and you know all the off platform throws and what he can do and it it is it’s very impressive but the continuity is going to be the key if there’s going to be anything it’s going to knock him in the process it’s you know the first thing he’s going to do he’s going to go in for a uh NFL top 30 visit and they’re going to say you played for six teams in six years why why right so what so what happens when you go through adversity I’m not I’m not even knocking the kid cuz I don’t I don’t know the situation I don’t I don’t understand the movement I didn’t understand the movement in high school and the player there’s a lot to like about the player um I just think it would be better like you said you know see it through what it looks like hey and if it’s a situation that you don’t like maybe it’s a year or two from now that you go when you try to explore different options I just as a young guy that’s already started as a freshman I don’t know if changing scenery again uh would be the most viable option for him at worst give it to the spring to figure this thing out we got some more breaking news from 247 Sports Tom ly Chris Singleton according to Tom ly will be visiting Auburn on Wednesday so a lot sorry Eric Singleton Eric Singleton Jr Georgia Tech receiver set to visit Auburn on Wednesday some quick Movement we talked about with Micah Hudson already getting ready to visit T&M single expected to visit Georgia Now set to visit Auburn according to Tom ly he’s a popular man yeah he is um what’s crazy about this I mean you kind of look at Auburn’s receiving courp and they got some guys that can roll man cam Coleman being one of those guys and you know Eric Singleton is a very complimentary piece Malcolm Simmons uh that I think flashed at times this year they’re waiting on Perry Thompson they’re waiting on Bryce Kane um obviously I think they would have liked to see more from those two uh so Auburn has been aggressive at receiver that’s kind of been Hugh F’s M MO um I think the biggest question is Eric Singleton’s gonna ask who’s throwing me the ball there you go you know so you know I and I think that’s something he’s got to figure out he’s going to take a visit to Georgia and oh he’s going to ask kby smart same question so Eric Singleton you talk about a player uh where the ball is in his court he can pick and choose literally anywhere in the country that he wants to go to Auburn for him at least at this point I think he’s going to need a little bit of uh not proof of concept but hey man I I got to know who the guy is is that’s going to be in charge of getting me the football down it down and we all know receivers are selfish as heck how many times am I going to be targeted and how are you going to use me and if you don’t have a guy that can get it to me it’s been a good visit I’m glad he’s going to pay me a lot of money but no bueno I can’t do all right we’re in the home stretch guys so let’s recap this opening day of the transfer portal look at the top five players graded today Eric Singleton who we just talked about with a 93 bar Al Ander defensive lineman formul USC with a 92 wide receiver Mario craer also a 92 fluff Bothwell running back at 91 and Cameron SS Edge rusher at a 91 smoke who would you say right now based on what You’ seen today who’s the player in the portal you’re most excited to see where he ends up and what kind of impact he will have bear Alexander and it’s not for a good thing this guy’s transferred at least what is this for now cop six times well if you’re going back to back to high school back to high school right it’s been a lot so my question is when he does show up cuz he’s talented he’s talented you see everything that you want in a defensive lineman except Drive attitude and playing as an unselfish player which is a defensive lineman you have to do so when you show up to the next place what type of player you g to get and you you and I can say we know what they’re gonna get they’re gonna get a talented guy that when adverse time hits and it will that’s why there’s a reason why he’s in the portal most likely he’s going to try to find another place to go intriguing talent but scares the heck out of me if I’m in that position to pull the trigger I get it and I I think the the teams here probably understand it too I mean I I think what’s going to hurt the most is probably bear Alexander’s bank account um there not going to be a lot of teams that are say hey we’re going to give you this money up front um if anything try to incentivize him and I think it would be hey one and done and if you don’t get right then your opportunity to go into the NFL diminishes and we’re not going to put up with you we kind of saw that with Corman mlan a little bit younger of a guy uh but it’s kind of worked out well for Florida obviously we’ll see what happens next year uh a couple of the these other names that stand out I said it earlier I think Eric Singleton one of those guys that you can make an argument could be the number one player in the portal super smooth um you talk about his production as a freshman at Georgia Tech uh this guy is super Dynamic and the guys ahead of him Dan key Nick Anderson at the position uh that’s a little bit of more who who your flavor is the guy that popped up recently here within the next hour Mario craer um I think a lot of people are probably be looking at how how do you have a guy at top 15 with just over 300 yards this dude is dynamic man you turn on the tape he can win a lot of different ways he’s 5 foot n there’s some off the field stuff there I mean you go down the list of all these guys they got something to them whether it’s it’s medical or football character uh but Craver for a guy that’s small is a long Strider super sudden uh you talk about his start and stop speed what he can do like I said earlier he averaged over 21 yards per catch this is a dynamic cat uh I’m expecting a super super hot market for him he was committed to Tennessee before he flipped to Mississippi State um so Mario craer I think one of those guys that if you’re a team out there you’re trying to get creative this is one of those dudes that I think can move the needle for you uh and certainly a guy that we’re really high on we look at natural fits of a player that’s in the portal in a school that would be the most optimal fit to utilize his ability for that school to get the impact there that could change the dynamic of their team is there one play you see in the portal smoke that he’s already in this school and he need to make it work and make it happen because they can make beautiful music well I’m I’m gonna throw one out there at you co Miller Moss can provide a team for the next level player that’s already complete ready to go all ironed up and you say you know what he’s the next guy take Miller moss and throw him at Texas ANL just just remove the fact that Marcel Reed is there but just a a guy that can give you instant credibility throw the ball all over the place leadership quality play but you just need one guy to come in got the receivers defense played well Marcel Reed is a mobile guy but he’s still young and getting the ball to the receivers at on a timely basis not so much so you bring that guy in Texas A&M Texas A&M did this all year long sell it kill it he can go in and provide the same thing that cam new cam Ward did and Cam Newton to Auburn in one year I like that one I I I really do love the Miller Moss Louisville fit I I think it just makes sense with what Jeff Brum has done and and his track record of developing quarterbacks and you look back at Tyler Shu you look back at Jack plumber who we had there uh I’m going to throw Off the Wall a little bit Drew Allard needs some help and we saw what Drew Allard is capable of I mean I thought he played one of his best games at Penn State in the Big 10 Championship he needs some help they brought in Julian fliming last year that hasn’t lived up to what a lot of people thought it would be how about this KC conceps on you can use that guy a lot of different ways right you can use him out of the slot you can use him out of the back field I think it’d be Drew allard’s best friend in terms of what they want to do I mean they got a strong running game strong offensive line they need a little widget player uh some eye candy so so even when he’s not adding value with the ball in his hands little window dressing uh can take a little pressure off of Drew Aller in those eyes and and he’s coming into his own so if I was Penn State I’m doing the most to try to get him some weapons can I give you one more and I think this is one of our favorite Thomas castanos Florida State get him in there with that Gus maon quarterback run first offense and he’s a very very capable pass into the ACC could give you the same thing that Kevin Jennings did to SMU a it and then of course we have the players that have not gone into the portal yet but that there may be fits that are already looming there of course you know if you’re Washington State fan plug your ears but does John Mater end up following Ben Arbuckle to Norman does he follow the cam W route and go to Miami or does he stay in pulit there’s still a lot of layers to be left but we have covered plenty of those layers today and we’ll be covering them all the way through during the rest of this portal time and then when it reopens again after the playoffs and opens again in April in the spring all kinds of action coming 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